SEN 798- March 24 2003

News and Reports 2003
SCAT Electronic News 24 March 2003 issue 789


Table of Contents
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Holiday on Ice Results
Hungarian lesson
Jr F1P Development Program. SCAT - Parker
March 2002 tan2 - Ioeger
Frank Zaic - Bogies
Propeller Loading - Purcell
Re: Cutting Foam - H

Holiday on Ice Results
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PlacName and country 5 roun1 Flyo2 Flyo=
Total
1 Jari Valo FIN 930 300 359 1589
2 J0rg Schelhase GER 930 300 3 39 1569
3 Sergey Makarov RUS 930 300 329 1559
4 Deniz Varhos SWE 930 300 325 1555
5 Vladyslav Lazarevych UKR 930 300 320 1550
6 Heikki Tahkapaa FIN 930 300 198 1428
7 Anders Persson SWE 930 300 185 1415
8 Per Findahl SWE 930 295 1225
9 Petri Kuikka FIN 930 290 1220
10 Matti Lihtamo FIN 930 286 1216
11 G0ran Trogen SWE 930 285 1215
12 Dirk Halbmeier GER 930 282 1212
12 Mathias Faerber GER 930 282 1212
14 Maarten van Dijk NED 930 281 1211
15 Juha Heikkinen FIN 930 280 1210
16 Laura Leino FIN 930 273 1203
17 John E. Carter GBR 930 268 1198
17 Brian van Nest USA 930 268 1198
19 Yuriy Evdokimov RUS 930 266 1196
20 Kimmo Kulmakko FIN 930 262 1192
21 Tommi Isotalo FIN 930 261 1191
22 Mikhail Kochkarev RUS 930 256 1186
23 Victor Stamov UKR 930 255 1185
24 Vegar Nereng NOR 930 250 1180
25 Igor Yablonovsky UKR 930 247 1177
26 Robert Hellgren SWE 930 245 1175
27 Vesa Varuskivi FIN 930 242 1172
27 Francois Moreau FRA 930 242 1172
29 Thomas Weimer GER 930 240 1170
30 Matthew Cuthbert GBR 930 237 1167
31 Pieter de Boer NED 930 236 1166
32 Inge Sundstedt SWE 930 232 1162
33 Timo Pajunen FIN 930 228 1158
33 Gerhard Aringer AUT 930 228 1158
35 Anton van Eldik NED 930 223 1153
36 Atle Klungrehaug NOR 930 218 1148
37 Ulf Edlund SWE 930 212 1142
38 Anders Klemetsen NOR 930 209 1139
39 Mikhail Kosonozhkin RUS 930 206 1136
40 Martin Tarnroth SWE 930 204 1134
41 Jean-Pierre Challine FRA 930 202 1132
42 Jens Kuehn GER 930 201 1131
43 Lars Larsson SWE 930 132 1062
44 Pekka Rahkala FIN 929
45 Pekka Ronkanen FIN 917
46 Ralf Kleine GER 909
47 Svein Olstad NOR 902
48 Bart Rotteweel NED 901
48 Luis B van der Togt NED 901
48 John Pettersson SWE 901
51 Anne Bernard FRA 885
52 Jurgen Maassen NED 880
53 Ivo Kreetz NED 879
54 David Oldfield GBR 853
55 H=E5vard Amlie NOR 851
56 Ingolf Steffensen NOR 844
57 Frederic Aberlenc FRA 816
58 Juho Runnari FIN 801
59 Dag Larsen NOR 694
60 Valve Runnari FIN 496
61 Gary Peck GBR 108

F1B
PlacName and country 5 roun1 Flyo2 Flyo=
Total
1 Walt Ghio USA 960 420 310 1690
2 Per T.Skjulstad NOR 960 420 0 1380
3 Pim Ruyter NED 960 401 1361
4 Jan Wold NOR 960 375 1335
5 Bror Eimar SWE 960 358 1318
6 Ole Torgersen NOR 960 357 1317
7 Alexander Andriukov USA 960 345 1305
8 Bernard Aslett GBR 960 341 1301
9 Stepan Stefanchuk UKR 960 319 1279
10 Brian Rusell Peers GBR 960 316 1276
11 Andrey Burdov RUS 960 298 1258
12 Yrj0 Waltonen FIN 960 288 1248
12 Juhani Isotalo FIN 960 284 1244
14 Michael Woodhouse GBR 960 272 1232
15 Yevheni Horban UKR 960 270 1230
16 Rich Rohrke USA 960 269 1229
17 Tor Bortne NOR 960 265 1225
17 Laurynas Gircys LTU 960 261 1221
19 Nilserik Holander SWE 960 256 1216
20 Rolandas Mackus LTU 960 253 1213
21 John Pratt USA 960 250 1210
22 Tapio Linkosalo FIN 960 248 1208
23 Alexey Bukin UKR 960 246 1206
24 Janne Forsmann SWE 960 235 1195
25 Manfred Hoffmann GER 960 234 1194
26 Hagen Stendal GER 960 233 1193
27 Henk van Hoorn NED 960 226 1186
27 Viktor Starostenko UKR 960 225 1185
29 John Sessums USA 960 224 1184
30 Igor Vivchar UKR 960 222 1182
31 Harald Meusburger AUT 960 182 1142
32 Vladimir Vivchar UKR 960 161 1121
33 Radik Khouziev RUS 960 160 1120
33 Janne Isotalo FIN 960 157 1117
35 Gunnar Wivardsson SWE 960 140 1100
36 Mike Woolner GBR 955
37 Eirik Crins NED 931
38 Ossi Kilpelainen FIN 860
39 Klaus W Salzer AUT 790
40 Johan =C5kermann SWE 347

F1C.
PlacName and country 5 roun 1 Fly2 Flyo Total
1 Gerhard Aringer AUT 960 393 1353
2 Kaarle Kuukka FIN 960 378 1338
3 John Cuthbert GBR 960 317 1277
4 Andreas Lindner GER 960 254 1214
5 Timo Niiranen FIN 960 120 1080
6 Gunnar =C5gren SWE 701

Smalliday on ice results.
F1H.
PlacName and country 3 roun1 Flyo2 Flyo=
Total
1 Igor Yablonovsky UKR 360 173 533
2 Brian van Nest USA 360 152 512
3 Victor Stamov UKR 360 150 510
4 Vegar Nereng NOR 360 144 504
5 Ingolf Steffensen NOR 360 115 475
6 Mikhail Kochkarev RUS 360 110 470
7 H=E5vard Amlie NOR 352
8 Tapio Linkosalo FIN 337
9 John E Carter GBR 332
10 Mikhail Kosonozhkin RUS 331
11 Jan Wold NOR 277
12 Svei Olstad NOR 271
F1G.
PlacName and country 3 roun1 Flyo2 Flyo=
Total
1 Kimmo Kulmakko FIN 360 240 220 820
2 Stepan Stefanchuk UKR 360 240 200 800
3 Alexey Bukin UKR 360 227 587
4 Viktor Starostenko UKR 360 220 580
5 Yevhenii Horban UKR 360 187 547
6 Andrey Burdov RUS 360 121 481

P 30.
PlacName and country 3 roun1 Flyo2 Flyo=
Total
1 Andrey Burdov RUS 360 189 549
2 Jan Wold NOR 360 110 470
3 Per T. Skjulstad NOR 355
4 H=E5vard Amlie NOR 354



Hungarian lesson
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Here goes big mouth again. Since I got a total recall of my first languag
e, Hungarian when in college in 1957 helping Hungarian Revolution Refugee
s, a few words for you guys going there. Congratulations Gil. I still can
't believe I fought him into the 6th round once in half A against the "To
othpicks." Anyways to Hungarian. =20
Igen pronounced egen is not a famous Irish Hungarian that they all talk a
bout there. You will hear it a lot, it means yes. Nem is no. Nem tudom me
ans I don't know. Nem kel is don't want. Where's the toilet is "hol van a
vetszey". Remember a is pronounced uh and e is pronounced ay like our a
and s is pronounced sh. The sz which drives everyone nuts when it is used
as in vetszey is pronounced like our s. Got it?

To go on, Railroad is "vash ult" vash being iron and ult being road. Road
to my airplane would be, ult a "repulogepemhoz". Repulo being flyer or f
lying, gep being machine. Remember e pronounced like our a. Gep pronounce
d gayp. Repulo pronounced rehp-eww-lehew, not quite but close. The em in
the word is possessive and hoz is to. Maybe stick to model which is about
the same, pronounced mohdell. Hey you guys need a translator to go with
you?

What else? Wing is sarny, rib is bordo, tail is farak. Remember a in fara
k is uh, both of them. Of course a with 'Let me know what else you need t
o know.
Regards, Ed Mate
IMPORTANT P.S. I am sorry is "botcsonot" pronounced boht-chon-oht. Thank
you is kosonom pronounced kerw-serw-nerwm, you answer your welcome which
is, "szivesen". If you follow the rules above you got it.Also this is com
plicated but only if i make it so. And I will. You will here chokolom. Th
is is Hungarian for hi. Comes from I kiss your hand which is Chocolom a k
ezed. Chocolom, I kiss, a kezed, your hand. Hungarian spelling may be a l
ittle off. I cant spell in either language.


Jr F1P Development Program. SCAT
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Subject : F1P

Roger for SEN,


The AstroStar 404 Jr Kits have been completed. The first awarded kits have been
mailed to Cody Secore and D. Kusick. Ther are 8 more full kits available wai
ting for interested Jr flyers.

I can't thank the group of guys that made this happen enough. Terry Thorkildsen
for technical supervision of adapting his AstroStar design to the F1P criteria.
Craig Cusick for his superb drafting skills. Tom Laird for selecting the balsa. Biggest thanks to Bob VanNest that pulled it all together and did the hands
on kitting and shipping. He also donated half the cost of this project.

To pay the remaining half of the project, ten AstroStar 404 laser cut ribs sets
(including the diagonals) plus the full size plans are being offered for a 25$
donation. Please contact Bob VanNest This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Personal checks and
money orders only.

This is a great opportunity to progress the young ½ A flyers into both AMA
A Gas and the FAI F1P event. The most critical ingredient is the experienced
Mentor. There is no shortage of discussion on SEN about the Jr "problem". How
about being part of the solution?

Thermals, Jim Parker






March 2002 tan2
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Hi Roger

The March 2002 Tan II that I have been using is excellent rubber.
There is probably no need to restrand the 26 strand motor to something
shorter and thicker. If your writer from New Zealand has been using old Tan
II, the March 02 batch will likely both take more turns and reach a higher
torque. Just stretch it hard and wind it fast.

Tom I.




Frank Zaic
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Bill and I received the following message from Ron Moulton, VP British Model
Flying Association:

"Frank Zaic was nominated for two prestigious international awards which are
given annually by the Models Commission of the F.A.I."

"I am most pleased to tell you that last week at the Plenary session of the
Models Commission the award of the F.A.I Gold Medal for Model Aeronautics was
awarded to Frank for his great work in advancing the technical development
through his many publications and administration of the Academy of Model
Aeronautics during its earliest days in 1936."

"As this was the supreme award, the other nomination was withdrawn."

Ron is currently engaged in writing about the award for Aeromodeller.

Jean Bogart




Propeller Loading
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Hello Roger

Thank you for organising and running such an interesting and effective =
newsletter.May I put a question to your readers, please ?

It is widely recognised in propeller theory and design that the degree =
of loading has a significant bearing on the choice of design method and =
on the effectiveness of the resulting propeller. Can any of your readers =
help, please, by quantifying the terms ' lightly loaded' and 'heavily =
loaded' ? Is it as simple as relating the loading to a range of values =
of the advance ratio ?

Regards
Ernie Purcell



Re: Cutting Foam
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While Martyn Cowley & Ron St Jean have a lot of foam cutting experience for
free flight, there is a multitude of info on RC websites.

Assume it's styrofoam & hotwireable. Skin can be helpful for structure, or
just add weight. Max skin with heating element from oven or charcoal
starter (run at lower voltage). Next is fat wire, then skinny wire. For no
skin at all, a table saw with hollow ground veneer blade leaves a silky
smooth finish and is generally more precise than hotwires.

There are an almost infinite number of variables in hotwire cutting. Key is
goor variable power supply. A good bow that keeps tension on the wire is
also required. I found short wires superior in that you can use a cooler
setting for more uniform finish without the wire dragging thru the foam.
Experimentation is most helpful for your application.

BTW one useful application for hotwired foam is helical pitch forms (well,
at least most indoor sportsmens still make their own props). A triangle
(front view) and rectangle (side view) are all that's needed. Basically is
old X block as used by Bilgri. Plywood or most anything can be used for
template. Foam can be glued in for stiffness, or not. Note that scrap
piece cut away is also same pitch.

Google can provide total information overload on foam cutting.

Good luck,
H



.......................
Roger Morrell