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Table of Contents - SEN 1413

  1. EC 2010 F1A
  2. USA F1C Finals Fuel
  3. On Lines thoughts and Updates
  4. Kaynes
  5. Ackery
  6. Rockberger
  7. Editor

EC 2010 F1A
Stamov Report via facebook

Friday, F1A. 1st round starts at 7:00. Light wind 1-3 m/s till round 4.

Then 3-5 m/s.

After 2 hours lunch brake 4-6 m/s. Hot (more, then 30 C, clear sky).
18 from 76 with full score.

5 min fly off - at 18:30. Wind - 3-5 m/s. 6 made 5 min.

7 min fly off at 19:55..., wind 3-5 m/s.

2 made 7. 10 min fly off - Saturday 6:45 in the morning.


N. Nikolov (BUL) -1290+300+420+?
C. Kargin (TUR) +300+420+?
3. J. Carter (GBR) +300+375
4. E. Tsoi (RUS) +300+196
5. A. Notaros (HUN) +300+154
6. M. Gobbo (ITA) +300+118

7. P. Findahl (SWE) +264
8. I. Shichman (ISR)+230
9. M. Holmbom (SWE) +212
10. R. Hellgren (SWE) +184
11. D. Crintesku (ROU) +179
12. S. Makarov (RUS) +162
13. M. Gruneis (AUT) +159
14. O. Sevgi (TUR) +130
15. J. Zarins (LAT) +127
16. S. Rumpp (GER) +88
17. B.N. Ofer (ISR) +78
18. H. Johansen (NOR) +30


Teams:
1. Sweden - 3870 (full score);
2. Israel - 3771
3. Germany - 3768


Some more comments:
Findahl and Makarov flew Flappers in 5 min fly off. Very good and high launches, 90+ m, but air was not enough for 5 min.
24. V Stamov (UKR) in 7th flight did launch for 80 m in the center of group of models in the thermal, but did only 2:39.
53. R. Koglot (SLO) dropped 5th and 6th rounds - 75 and 105.



USA Finals F1C Fuel Clarification

Reference SCAT's FAI FF Finals Bulletin # 2. 
 
The F1C test fuel that will be available for testing prior to the Finals, is the exact same FHS fuel that will be used for the Finals.  FHS will mix this fuel at the same time they mix the Finals fuel.
 
The test fuel you will be buying will be in a sealed quart container, it will be fresh fuel.  The Finals fuel will be shipped to us in sealed containers as well.
 
Roger Simpson  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.   tel: 817 599-3088

FAI Web Site Status for EC 2010

Roger

I have uploaded a complete and ordered copy of the F1B and F1C Euro Champs 
results to the FAI web site at:
http://www.fai.org/aeromodelling/competitions/free_flight/ch10/ff10.htm
I will aim to add F1A some time on Saturday, depending when we finish

Ian
Live on the Internet or too much info?

It certainly is wonderful to be able to get timely results from major contests but I think it is a mistake to get too demanding with what we expect.
If individuals who are there want to regularly update their Facebook and Twitter to let their friends know what they are doing that is fine. But I don't see that as an imperative for the contest organisers to do the same.

There is a huge workload in running major events, and most organisations are already at maximum stretch. The contest organisers main focus needs to be on running the contest on the day, for the people who are on the field, and dealing with the many issues that occur. And not trying to meet the requirements of a global audience that expects ESPN type coverage. Where will demands go next?, multiple live video feeds from the field, with instant replays of the critical moments ?. It makes sense for official results to become available when the contest is complete, when any processing, protests or other issues have been dealt with, tabulation checked, and all has been verified as correct and final.

best regards
David Ackery

More on-Online


Hi Roger and Sen readers,
 
It seems my words on the online results reporting have been taken the wrong way and have reached our Israeli team on the field.
 
I woul like to share with you a mail i sent Osman the organiser a few days ago which i think he has not seen being so busy.
Make no mistake, the champs are amazing and have been organised without a flaw.
 
When i stated i plan to bring this up with CIAM i meant to see if there is a rule or obligation for an international country organiser to have online or very close to online results.
 
If not  i would like for there to be one, and would be happy to help write it up.
 
By no means did i mean this as any complaint of any kind, here is the mail i sent a few days ago:
 
Dear Osman,
I hear the championships are going very well, and excellently organised.
Well done on a great job done.
Many Aero modellers from around the world are trying to keep updated with the results of the Anatolian cup and the European champs, however we do not see the results updated on the website.
Is this something y ou plan to do online at real time during the contest?
We would like to see the results as this is the only way we can keep updated.
Thank you very much
Daniel Rockberger
Israel delegate to CIAM


How Important is Online?


David Ackery's note brings up 2 very important points.

Firstly that this is not as important as running the contest on the ground, so there primary focus of the organizer should be to do that. However as particpants we pay significant money to tqke part in these World and Continental championship events and the organizers do not lose money so they should be able to provide some form of online update. Typically there is alway a geek relative or friend who is only to willing to help. For example in Odessa Victor Stamov had his son help in this space


Secondly I see Dave's ESPN commentary the opposite way from him. We live in an Instant - ESPN World. The young people we try so hard to attract have that expectation. The fact that many people, young and young at heart around the want to know how the event is going is great, we need to feed that desire as part of the effort to promote free flight.



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Roger Morrell