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SCAT Electronic news 5 June 2004 issue 876
Table of Contents
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Big Al's Shootout - Ghio
Tragedy at British Nats
article on buying airplanes - Barr
Skyscrapers Challenge 2004 - Schlosberg
summer madness Cancelled - Brun & Diez
Peter Harris - Woodhouse et al
Items for S.E.N. - Happersett
Pre WWII US Navy Markings
BENEDEK PASSING
World Cup and Rules - Van Wallene
BOM is not the same as Juniors - Editor
Hoosier Cup 2004 Results - Markos
InterCity Meet - Shailor
NFFs Sympo 2005 - Woodhouse
Glidetek and some thoughts on BOM - Edmonson
2004 FF Champs
Thanks
Big Al's Shootout
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Walt Ghio
First off I would like to thank all the flyers, flyers wives
and supporters who helped with the timing of the flyoffs and
Big Al’s Shootout. Without your help we would not have had
a successful contest. Like last year we started out on
Friday evening with a good breeze with gusts reaching 18 to
20 mph. The forecast was not good for this weekend also.
We woke up to a very pleasant Saturday morning. Light winds
and big thermals made for great flying conditions during the
morning rounds. In the afternoon the conditions turned a
little turbulent along with big thermals. The light winds
along with periods of gusty winds made for difficult
conditions. The F1A and F1C flyers had the hardest time.
Of the thirteen F1B flyers that completed seven rounds, only
four flights were less than the max with nine maxing out.
The flyoffs started at 5 PM with F1A. Martyn Cowley and
Randy Weiler decided not to participate. Pierre Brun, Lee
Hines and Tyler Secor made the 300 second max. Lee’s model
did not DT and was not found. Al Ulm, Roger Morrell and
Alex Andriulkov made the max of the eight who flew in the
F1B flyoff. The breeze was starting to pick up and a
decision was made to hold off the rest of the flyoffs till
Sunday morning. They would be incorporated with Big Al’s
Shootout.
The Shootout started as planned at 6:30 AM with a very light
drift to the North. The format is a ten-minute flying
window, with ten minutes between events to organize the
timers. High time in F1A for the first round was 313
seconds by Pierre Brun, which made him the contest winner.
Michael Thompson had high time for the second flight, but
was edged out by Pierre for the Shootout win.
In F1B Alex Andriukov had high time for the first round,
along with the contest winning flight. In the second round
Philip Scheiman made the 360 second max, but was beat out by
Alex for the Shootout win. Alex could not find his model
during the first round and returned to the flight line with
approximately 2 minutes left in the second round. He
changed the motor made a rudder adjustment and launched with
15 seconds remaining in the round.
John Warren had a perfect power pattern, which resulted in
374 second winning flight. Both John and Ron McBurnett made
the 360-second max in the second round with John winning the
Shootout due to his high time first flight.
The Shootout is a take off of the Champagne flyoffs that
were held at Taft in the 70’s and 80’s. It was well
received by the contestants and will be held again next
year.
All the contestants in F1G made a max in round one. After
the fifth round we only had four with a perfect score out of
fifteen who started the contest. The conditions were not
easy. Jack Emery edged out Elmer Nelson with a 420-second
max in the fourth flyoff round at 7:30 PM. Hank Cole came
in third with a new F1G that had an 80-second prop run.
With the tricky conditions only two F1H flyers made the
flyoff. I decided to limit the flyoff window to five
minutes. Mike McKeever released after about 90 seconds of
towing for a flight of 147 seconds. Brian VanNest towed up
wind and released about one minute before the end of the
round for a max and the win.
Half the field maxed out in F1J. Ken Happersett left early
for home and did not fly. Again, I set the flyoff round
window at five minutes. The first round and second rounds
ended up with all maxes except for Ed Carroll who had his
model dive to the ground after the motor cut in the second
round. For the third round I set the max to 420 seconds.
Guy Menanno made the max with Mike Roberts settling for 305
seconds and Dave Shirley scoring 296 seconds. John Warren
had troubles with his engine and did not get the flight off.
Several Juniors entered the contest. In F1P Cody Secor flew
well all day and recorded a 795 second total for the
contest. Philip Scheiman had five maxes in F1B and then
lost his model. With some help they were able to find it
later in the day. Tylor Secor had an excellent day taking
second place in F1A. Logan Tetick again flew will and made
four maxes for a total of 924 seconds in F1A. Ryan Archer
had three maxes for a total of 453 seconds in F1H. This was
excellent practice for Cody, Philip and Tylor who are
preparing for the Junior World Champs in France this summer.
Thanks to some excellent weather conditions we were able to
complete all the flyoffs in one day. At sunset the trophies
were give out and we ended the 2004 Big Al’s Memorial
Contest. Next year, I hope to have more than a big bag of
peanuts for treats and for sure two Porta Potties.
F1A RD 1RD 2RD 3RD 4RD 5RD 6RD 7FO FO FO 3 FO TOTAL
1 Pierre Brun 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300313 1693
2 Tyler Secor J180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300309 1869
3 Lee Hines 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300246 1806
4 Don Zink 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 160 1420
5 Martyn Cowley 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 0 1260
6 Randy Weiler 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 0 1260
7 Jon Davis 180 180 180 176 180 180 180 1256
8 Dallas Parker 180 180 150 180 180 180 180 1230
9 Brian VanNest 180 180 180 142 180 180 146 1188
10 Jim Parker 180 180 105 180 180 180 180 1185
11 Brian Bauer 180 180 180 180 180 70 180 1150
12 Ernesto Busnelli 180 180 180 180 180 180 0 1080
13 Norm Smith 113 180 180 180 14 180 180 1027
14 Micheal Thompson 180 180 180 180 60 0 180 960
15 Mike McKeever 125 63 180 180 28 180 180 936
16 Logan Tetrick 84 180 180 85 180 35 180 924
17 Peter Brock 159 109 115 104 180 4 180 851
18 Jim Lueken 180 180 180 125 0 0 0 665
19 Tom Coussens 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 180
20 Ryan Archer JR 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1 F1B RD 1RD 2RD 3RD 4RD 5RD 6RD 7FO FO FO 3 FO TOTAL
1 Alex Andriukov 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300402 1782
2 Roger Morrell 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300261 1821
3 Allen Ulm 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300165 1725
4 Jack Emery 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 295 1555
5 Bob Piserchio 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 233 1493
6 Rich Rohrke 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 197 1457
7 Mike Mulligan 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 127 1387
8 Richard Wood 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 99 1359
9 George Batuik 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 0 1260
10 John Pratt 180 180 180 180 180 142 180 1222
11 Blake Jensen 180 137 180 180 180 180 180 1217
12 Larry Norvall 180 180 180 136 180 180 180 1216
13 Elmer Nelson 180 180 180 131 180 180 180 1211
14 Philip Scheiman 180 180 180 180 180 0 0 900
15 Mike Davis 178 108 0 0 0 0 0 286
F1C RD 1RD 2RD 3RD 4RD 5RD 6RD 7FO FO FO 3 FO TOTAL
1 John Warren 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 374 1454
2 Guy Menanno 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 290 1550
3 Ron McBurnett 180 180 180 180 180 180 162 1242
4 Ed Carroll 180 180 180 180 180 180 160 1240
5 Terry Kerger 155 180 180 180 180 180 180 1235
6 Daryl Perkins 180 180 180 180 180 180 155 1235
7 Ken Happersett 180 180 180 180 180 180 143 1223
8 Peter Saulberg 180 180 180 180 180 180 138 1218
9 Douge Joyce 180 180 180 180 180 88 172 1160
10 Mike Roberts 180 180 180 180 180 173 0 1073
11 Roger Simpson 180 180 180 180 33 0 0 753
12 Matt Gewain 180 180 0 0 0 0 0 360
13 Dave Shirley 83 0 0 0 0 0 0 83
14 Randy Archer 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1G RD 1RD 2RD 3RD 4RD 5FO 1FO 2FO FO TOTAL
1 Jack Emery 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 3004201740
2 Elmer Nelson 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 1020
3 Hank Cole 120 120 120 120 120 180 227 1007
4 George Schroedter120 120 120 120 120 180 140 920
5 Bob White 120 120 120 120 106 586
6 Aimee Raymond 120 95 120 120 120 575
7 Richard Wood 120 120 120 84 120 564
8 Martin Schroedter120 85 120 120 100 545
9 Bob VanNest 120 84 115 65 120 504
10 Peter Brocks 120 53 120 61 120 474
11 Roger Morrell 120 120 104 71 0 415
12 Larry Norvall 120 120 98 0 0 338
13 John Pratt 120 120 73 0 0 313
14 Mike Davis 120 94 0 0 0 214
15 Charles Dorsett 120 53 0 0 0 173
16 Randy Secor 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1H RD 1RD 2RD 3RD 4RD 5FO 1FO 2FO FO TOTAL
1 Brian VanNest 120 120 120 120 120 180 780
2 Mike McKeever 120 120 120 120 120 147 747
3 Norm Smith 120 97 120 120 120 577
4 Dallas Parker 120 120 120 65 120 545
5 Michael Thompson 33 120 120 120 120 513
6 Ryan Archer JR120 33 60 120 120 453
7 Ernesto Busnelli 120 83 0 0 0 203
8 Jon Davis 120 0 0 0 0 120
9 Bob Norton 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1J RD 1RD 2RD 3RD 4RD 5FO 1FO 2FO FO TOTAL
1 Guy Menanno 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 420 1440
2 Mike Roberts 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 305 1325
3 Dave Shirley 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 296 1316
4 John Warren 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 0 1020
5 Ed Carroll 120 120 120 120 120 180 24 804
6 Ken Happersett 120 120 120 120 120 600
7 Lynn Pulley 120 120 92 120 120 572
8 Terry Kerger 120 120 84 120 120 564
9 Tony Robertson 120 106 120 120 73 539
10 Peter Sahlberg 120 111 120 120 0 471
11 Ray Sahlberg 0 55 78 120 0 253
12 Jeff Ellington 120 0 0 0 0 120
F1P
1 Cody Secor 180 180 114 141 180 795
Shootout Results 04
F1A RD 1Rd 2total
1 Pierre Brun 313 286 599
2 Mike Thompson 300 295 595
3 Jon Davis 311 222 533
4 Mike McKeever 263 255 518
5 Brian VanNest 257 202 459
6 Peter Brocks 245 150 395
7 Jim Parker 107 287 394
F1B
1 Alex Andriukov 402 340 742
2 Philip Scheiman 341 360 701
3 Roger Morrell 369 261 630
4 Blake Jensen 317 279 596
5 Bob Piserchio 321 243 564
6 Elmer Nelson 200 194 394
7 Larry Norvall 218 168 386
F1C
1 John Warren 374 360 734
2 Ron McBurnett 296 360 656
3 Guy Menanno 290 323 613
Tragedy at British Nats
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Roger,
I received a sad report from Bruce Kimbal that Pete Harris, noted F1C flier was
tragically killed by a lightning strike during the British Nats.
I am sure you should and will verify the above before posting the
shocking news . Follows Bruce's email copy:
Hi Lee, I wanted to drop you a line and let you know all is well here in the
UK. I just returned from the British Nats up at Barkston-Heath after a great
weekend of flying. You can let Stan know that I won catapult glider with
a Coppercat. In HLG the contest was cancelled after a nasty thunderstorm
blew in and started dropping lightening strikes on the field. Unfortunatly
one of the British
F1C team members (Peter Harris) was returning from downwind and was killed by a
lightening strike. It was a trgic event. On Monday we resumed flying with the
most wonderful weather I have seen here. I met Mark Benns and Mick Page and had
a great time with them. They told me to thank you for the Sweepette trophy as
it is their most prized trophy.
Bruce
A sad Ciao from
The Leeper
Lee Hines
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article on buying airplanes
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Amanda Barr
Scat readers,
I would like to state my opinion about Mr. Bennett’s letter that appeared in
SEN. As a junior world champ team member going to France this summer this
issue has some effect on me. I understand Mr. Bennett’s views and in some
aspects even agree with Mr. Bennett. I am 17 and started FF just a year ago
in March. I will definitely confess to the fact that in the event of a
crash I would not be able to repair the damage on the spot under pressure.
I am learning more and more about trimming my airplanes with the help of my
grandfather and all the other great modelers that have supported me. My
grandfather is also building the airplanes that I am taking to compete with in
France. I try to help as much as I can but we live two states apart.
I have a very hectic school schedule that includes engineering, honors, and AP
classes, each coming with tons and tons of home work, and I try to balance a
job on the weekends. I am sure that my junior team members have a similar
situation as myself. As for buying planes fully ready to fly, I think that
buying an airplane can seem like an unfair advantage for some people like
Mr. Bennett and many other flyers that have the same opinions. There is no
way that I could afford one for myself and I don’t think many juniors
could afford it either, they are quite an expense. I personally don’t see
them as an unfair advantage though; the “store bought airplanes” give
them the same experience in flying as do the
kids that build their own airplanes. I think flying an airplane that you build
and trim yourself gives you an advantage because you gain a good knowledge
about your airplane. I have seen most of the team members fly at the NATS
and I can say that they are all really great at what they do and I am/will
be honored to fly as one of them at the world champs this summer.
Amanda Barr
Skyscrapers Challenge 2004
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Skyscrapers Challenge, Wawayanda, May 29-30 2004
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It was very windy on Saturday, deterring many attendees,
and many who came to keep their models safely in their model
boxes. The minis were won by Tom Ioerger, Austin Gunder and
Jean Pialet with sub max scores. The planned 3 late afternoon
major FAI rounds were cut to a single one starting a 7 PM.
Sunday's weather proved to be completely different. The morning
started with almost dead calm and only Andrew Barron was able
to keep his super max score. By the third round we relocated up
wind, after a models started flying over the trees along the river to
the adjacent sod farms. As the day progressed the wind dropped
and the last few rounds had plenty of thermals with long calm
stretches.
There were three first time Nordic fliers - Michelle and Timothy
Barron, and Bill Collish. Bob Biedron won Wakefield for the
second consecutive time. Gil Morris won F1C with his old V
aluminum flapper.
Dick Ivers won P 30 and had an interesting F1Q in a Wakefield
frame. HLG was won by Larry Pelatowski and Al Vollmer won
Catapult HLG with Larry close behind. Dawn, flown early Sunday,
was won by Kaine Laffler. Julie Barron, the youngest contestant,
flow Mulvihill. Mike Cook, Jean Pialet and Bobby Geyer won
PeeWee 30, AMA Classic and 1/2 A Nostalgia respectively.
We also used a single plack to which more than one placing
could be attached. And finally, many thanks to David Acton
who CDed the AMA events and manned the score table during
the whole contest.
F1G
1. Tom Ioerger 120 120 120 120 114 = 594
2. Dick Ivers 96 120 120 120 120 = 576
3. David Lacey 120 55 111 89 120 = 495
4. Bob Hatschek -- 120 89 120 120 = 449
5. Don Rousseau 120 ----- = 120
6. Larry Pelatowski 96 11 ----- = 107
F1H
1. Jean Pailet 120 79 58 120 -- = 377
F1J
1. Austin Gunder 120 103 120 120 180 = 583
2. Amanda Barr J 85 120 120 120 -- = 445
3. Jean Pailet 120 28 103 120 61 = 432
F1A (Note: second round was a super max for F1A,B and C)
1. Andrew Barron 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 180 180 = 1500
2. Tzvetan Tzvetkov 163 180 150 180 180 180 180 180 = 1393
3. Peter Barron J 174 180 180 180 180 108 180 180 = 1362
4. Ben Thomson J 102 180 180 180 180 180 180 104 = 1286
5. Igor Fradkin 151 180 180 180 180 180 65 121 1237
6. Josh Rivkin J 180 180+0 68 180 180 180 180 69 1217
7. Bob Sifleet 178 180 180 128 95 157 126 90 1134
8. Austin Gunder 180 180+0 38 56 180 180 65 180 = 1106
9. Aram Schlosberg 155 180 180 148 180 61 -- 180 = 1084
10.Bill Collish --- 83 68 76 180 180 180 180 = 947
11.Dennis Phelan 93 -- 58 180 180 -- 155 180 846
12.Jonah Coste J 113 161 95 180 70 73 63 88 843
13.Michelle Barron J 15 92 133 180 89 180 82 54 825
14.Timothy Barron J 72 88 180 -- 180 55 66 180 749
15.Dick Ivers 47
16.Art Ellis 36
F1B
1. Bob Biedron 137 180 180 180 180 128 180 180 = 1345
2. Sarah Radziunas J 180 180 180 180 71 118 180 180 = 1269
3. Ton Ioerger -- 180 180 180 180 180 180 157 =1257
4. Ron Felix 180 180+0 180 117 58 ---- = 723
5. Nathan Coste J 10 -- -- -- -- 155 144 180 = 489
6. Jerry McGlashan 120 180 ----- = 300
7. David Lacey 102 111 ----- = 213
F1C
1. Gil Morris 180 180+0 -- 136 180 180 141 180
1237
2. Craig Gunder 180 180+0 -- 127 136 156 180 180 = 1199
P-30
1. Dick Ivers 120 120 120 = 360
2. Bob Hatcheck 120 120 105 = 345
3. Larry Peltowski 120 120 83 = 360
4. Don Rousseau 120 61 120 = 301
Dawn
1. Kaine Laffler 290
2. Don Rousseau 206
3. David Acton 206
Catapult HLG
1. Al Vollmer 120+40+55 = 215
2. Larry Pelatowski 80+47+46 = 173
3. Vic Nippert 32+39+56 = 127
4. Don Rosseau 26+39+25 = 90
HLG
1. Larry Pelatowski 25+120+80 = 225
2. Vito Gagliano 43+27+120 = 189
3. Timothy Barron J 10+10+7 = 27
4. Michelle Barron J 4+4+4 = 12
5. Julie Barron J 5+2+1 = 8
6. Peter Barron J 4 = 4
Mulvihill
1. Julie Barron 13 2 8 = 23
PeeWee 30
1. Mike Cook 1913
2. Don Rousseau 1220
AMA Classic I
1. Jean Pialet 120 116 120 = 356
1/2 A Nostalgia
1. Bob Geyer 120 109 120 = 349
2. Joe Wagner 78 109 120 = 266
Aram Schlosberg FAI CD
summer madness Cancelled
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As per Hector Diez
SUMMER MADNESS WILL NOT TAKE PLACE.
Hector will not be able to run it.
pierre
Peter Harris
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Guys
We thought it best that we should let everyone know the facts of the tragic
accident at the free flight nationals.
The notice below has been posted on the BMFA web site.
Michael J Woodhouse
Chairman Free Flight Technical Committee British Model Flying Association
Tragic accident at FF Nats
"It is with great sadness that we inform you of a tragic accident which
occurred at the Free Flight Nationals on Sunday 30th May.
Peter Harris from Kidderminster who was a very well known and respected
member of the Free Flight community was cycling across the airfield during a
very sudden and violent thunderstorm when he was struck by lightning. First
aid was administered at the scene and an ambulance crew arrived within
minutes to take Peter to hospital in Grantham. Sadly, Peter died of his
injuries.
All flying activities were suspended for the remainder of the day. The
competition resumed on Monday 31st May (it is thought that this is what
Peter would have wanted) following a service on the airfield lead by Rev
(Sqn Ldr)Stephen J Radley from RAF Cranwell.
I am sure that the thoughts of every BMFA member will be with the family and
friends of Peter at this very sad time".
Dave Phipps
BMFA General Manager
http://www.bmfa.org/
Items for S.E.N.
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Hi Roger,
Could you post these items on the SEN.
Motorcycle in bike shed #2
#2 Bike shed / container at Lost Hills. (the middle one) There is a
motorcycle in this unit that is in an unassigned space. If you think you
may be or may know who the owner is please contact Ken Happersett
714-839-5610. If the owner is not found this motorcycle will be
removed. Please contact Ken as soon as possible.
Geared F1C Model for sale
F1C Verbitsky geared model for sale. Test flown. Has four official
contest flights on it only. $1700.00 please contact Ken Happersett
714-839-5610.
Pre WWII US Navy Markings
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Saw this great film "DIve Bomber" and noticed that there were a number
of different colored markings on the cowls of the planes. Some were
blue, some green, some yellow and some red. Tailfeathers were generally
white. In addition to the color differences on the cowls, some were
painted the entire cowl, the front half of a cowl, the top half of a
cowl with the bottom half gray. I'm wondering if anyone could help out
in interpreting these markings. At one time I thought the colors
represented the carriers that the planes were assigned to and the cowl
arrangements had something to do with squadron leaders or something.
Ed
BENEDEK PASSING
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Mike Woodhouse wrote:
Guys
A great pioneer has passed on. I saw him in 1958 when he so nearly
won the Wakefield Cup. Who has not used a Benedek 'foil on at least one
of their models. I have used the B-6356-b for many years and found it
to be brilliant.
Please offer the deepest condolences of myself President and the
entire Illinois Model Areo Club on the passing of this incomparable man
and great pioneer Dr. George Benedek. I am truly shaken by the news. He
always made me very proud of my Hungarian heratage. I am so sorry I
never met him. "Elyen a Magyar", as Roul Hoffman my other famous
Hungarian friend would say. Andras may recognize the 1956 Hungarian
Revolution rallying cry "Live the Hungarian". I think it fiitting on
this Memorial Day. I wanted to build and fly every model I ever saw of
his designs. I did win the Nats with a compressed air ripoff of one of
his CO2 jobs. Thanks George for all you gave us, Elyen a Magyar. Mike
could you please forward this to Andras I cannot find his address.
Ed Mate
World Cup and Rules
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Dear all,
this year's Sezimovo Usti competition, showed once more a violation of
FAI rules. This was not the first time, judging the official protests
filed at the FAI by van Wallene/Zeri (see
http://www.aeromodel.com/TM/E244T20) and Rumpp in 2000.
These protests did not have any effect. It so appears the FAI doesn't do
much to enforce their rules (correct me if I'm wrong!). And because of
this, some organisers are led to believe they can do whatever they want.
It is for this reason I would like to try some other means to make
organisers realize they should stick to the rules.
I would like to invite any flyer who has participated now or in the past
in the Sezimovo Usti World Cup competition and who has witnessed or
experienced FAI rule violations. After having collected all results, I
will categorize them and send them in an open letter to the FAI/CIAM and
publish them through this medium. Hopefully this will set things in
motion.
Some fliers in fact stopped from flying this competition because of
these events. Please forward this message to any former participant not
regularly reading SCAT news.
Some examples:
Non compliance with fly off working time (5 minutes, even 2 minutes)
Inadequate timekeeping (recorded max for sub max flights and vice versa,
this happened frequently and even influenced the top 10 results)
Incorrect positioning of starting line, models landing in town nearby
Non communication of decisions
Obstructions (cars/vans) in starting area
Unsafe starting area caused by car-racing youngsters
Terminating 10 minutes fly off working time too early (2000)
Absence of tow line check equipment
No spot checking of tow lines / rubber and model weights.
etc.
Please reply to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and try to be brief and factual:
Name and adress
Type of rule violation with reference to Sporting Code and or rules for
organising international contests
Possible influence on final results
Resulting damage to model(s)
Year of event
Flyer(s) involved
Protest filed yes/no, outcome of protest
Protest filed before FAI yes/no, result of protest
Any other relevant details
regards,
Allard
BOM is not the same as Juniors
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Editor
There is clearly a 'religious' issue with BOM and it sounds that some of the
recent writers are confusing this with the issue of junior participation. The
most important component for new Junior [or Open participation for that matter]
is mentoring from experienced modellers. We tend to mentor the things that we
know the most about, excite us the most and personally feel is the best. There
is no question that people can get great enjoyment from flying something a
apparently simple as a cat Glider or as complex and as involved as participating
in a contest in another country.
It's not wrong if we encourage a person to take part in the Junior team program
and just the same way it's not wrong if you get someone to build a Gollywock or
Starduster, what is important is that you determine the program is right for the
beginner and you support him in that program. The challenges are different.
There are benefit from learning how to take part in a contest where the flying
rules are difficult and in travelling to or meeting people from other countries
.
There are also benefits from learning craftsmanship and building models. Do not
let our philosophical polarization discourage potential new sportsmen ... or
modellers
Fwd: Hoosier Cup 2004 Results
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The big story at this year's Hoosier Cup FAI FF competition was the wind. It
was strong out of the SW at 4 - 8 meters per second on Saturday for F1A, B
and C. On Sunday it was even a little more for F1G, H and J. At least the rai
n
and tornado watches stayed away until late Sunday. The conditions were
quite flyable on Friday morning for testing, but turned breezy in the afternoon
.
A remarkable 180 degree wind shift from SW to NE occurred on Friday afternoon
with no let up in velocity! By about 6 pm on Friday, it was almost calm and
quite a few of us got to do some testing and trimming. The whole week prior
to the Hoosier Cup afforded only one good day for testing to those who stayed
the week between this contest and the Inter-Cities contest.
Competion began at 9 am on Saturday with the max at 180. The wind direction
at that time was SSW so we had about 1.5 miles before the models would leave
the field. However, the direction became more westerly as the round continued
so the max was dropped to 120 for rounds 2-7. As the day progressed, the
direction from the launch area was directly towards the cemetary and its trees
so
we moved the launch line to the north. Two-minute maxes were barely staying
on the field in the afternoon. Besides the speed of the wind, it was very
turbulent....even downwind. Gliding models were tossed around like plastic
grocery bags and minor damage occurred due to hard landings on the soft grass.
Jerry McGlashan prevailed in F1B after an early DT on the first round. He
was the only one to put a string of 2-minute maxes together. For the last
round, he needed only about 90 seconds to take first. Art Ellis folded a wing
tip on his F1A in the first round and his son, David, crashed one model and
folded a wing tip on the other before he could get it in the air.
In the mini-events, Paul Masterman won F1G with a steady performance. My
guess is that he felt right at home (British) at this contest. The first three
places in F1G were taken with low-tech models. Jim Haught broke his windy
weather F1J due to the turbulence after three maxes. He went to a performance
model to complete the contest, but that also was broken because of the
turbulence and a 36 second flight. After some field repairs to the his windy w
eather
model, he put in a few test flights and finished the contest. He needed only
an official flight, 21 seconds, to beat Jean Pailet.
We had 21 contestants enter, including three Juniors. However, only one of
the Jr contestants flew. The turnout was adversely affected by the proximity
of this contest to the previous weekend Inter-Cities FAI in addition to the
poor flying conditions. An Ohio FAC club was there to hold a scale contest,
but their models stayed in their cars. The CIA held their Oldtimer/Nostalgia
contest at the same site, but only a few models from that contest got airborne.
As we were packing up, Dick Wood came up to say that he had fun....I did
too!
Chuck Markos
InterCity Meet
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Inter-City Meet
The Detroit Balsa Bugs hosted the 55th annual Inter-City meet May 15-16
2004. It was earlier in the year than before, so we were all a little
apprehensive over the weather.The fact that it rained throughout Friday
night didn't help.
Saturday morning was cold and drizzly. Andrew Barron put up a test flight so
we could see how far the drift was. Not bad. We decided to go for a three
minute max and leave room to reconsider throughout the day.
As it turns out, the weather continued to improve throughout the day. It
never got above 55 degrees or so, but the wind/drift never took any official
flights even close to the edges of the field. A steady direction allowed us
to stay in the same spot.
In FIB Greg Simon, Bob Biedron and John Seymour had seven maxes. They went
for the 5 minute max from where we had been flying all day. All three easily
made it. We then moved further north for the seven minute flight. Greg and
Bob both made that one and easily stayed on the field
Sunday dawned with very light and variable winds. Greg and Bob would go for
a ten minute max. We set up on the east side of the field and they launched,
with Bob being the first to go. Nice launch, good climb. Greg went off next,
and climbed about 25 feet or so higher.
Neither model wanted to come down!
Whatever air they launched into allowed the models to stay in, basically,
the same spot with very little drift downwind. Bob's model glided in at
almost 91/2 minutes and Greg's D/T'd and landed at over 10 minutes!
Neither one was closed to the western edge of the field.
Truly an incredible sight!
The rest of the day was absolutely perfect with very little drift and nice,
gentle thermals.
The kind of day you remember for a long time.
The standings are:
F1A
1. Andrew Barron 1245
2. Peter Barron 1222
3. Tzvetan Tzvetkov 1100
4. Chuck Markos 1008
F1B
1.Greg Simon 1260
2. Bob Biedron 1260
3. John Seymour 1260
4. John Clapp 1248
5. Bill Shailor 1247
6. Paul Crowley 1214
7. Jerry McGlashan 1200
8. Richard Wood 1149
9.Eddie Vanlandingham 1039
F1C
1. Gil Morris 1260+381
2.Norm Poti 1260+334
3. Bucky Servaitis 1260+250
4.Joe Wagner 570
F1J
1. Norm Poti 600 + 240 +325
2. John T. Lorbiecki 600 + 240 + 154
3. Jim F. Haught 600 + 188
4. Gil Morris 600
F1H
1. Joe Mekina 600
2. Lee Campbell 267
3. Amanda Watson (jr) 246
4. Chuck Markos 120
F1G
1. Rich MacCleery 600 + 240 + 144
2. Richard Wood 600 + 240 + 23.
3. John Clapp 600 + 239
4. Alex Proffitt (jr) 600 + 114
5. Eddie Vanlandingham 600 + 83
6. John Shailor (jr) 571
7. Chuck Marcos 568
8. Greg Simon 529
9. Richard Pivitt 506
10. Dale Wilson 457
11. Ed Konefes 327
I'd like to than all those who attended and helped make this a really great
contest!
See you next year!
Bill
NFFs Sympo 2005
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MICHAEL J. WOODHOUSE
12 MARSTON LANE, EATON,
NORWICH, NORFOLK, NR4 6LZ, U.K.
TEL/FAX: (01603) 457754
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Web site: http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk.
17th May 2004
NFFS Symposium 2005 - Call for Papers
I have taken on the role of Editor for the 2005 NFFS Symposium. Therefore
I
need papers to edit thus I am looking for contributions that relate to all
aspects of free flight. I want to compile a symposium that covers the
history and development of free flight i.e. sport, scale, vintage and
competition, both theoretical and practical, plus the use of materials, =ECho=
w
I did it and a little philosophy as well.
If you have an idea please get in contact. If you can't do it directly you
might be able to give advice regarding someone who can! All help and advice
will be gratefully received.
Thank you in anticipation.
Michael J. Woodhouse
Editor NFFS Symposium 2005
Glidetek and some thoughts on BOM
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Hello SCAT readers
June 2, 2004
I just wanted to inform people that over the past several
months I have been collecting a variety of FAI models for
resale. Many of these models are contest winners at major
meets.
So if you have a major meet coming up that you find
yourself short a model, give me a call. I have a good
selection of F1A, F1G, F1H, and F1J models. An F1B entry
level model will be available in July.
I am in the process of getting my website up and running,
but until it is functional, you can email me for pictures
and descriptions of the models that are available.
I am located in Minnesota, which is good and bad. The good
part is California residents don’t pay sales tax. The bad
part is that I can only show pictures of the models, but do
offer free shipping.
My email address is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and my cell
phone is 612-220-5239
I have been a member of the Minneapolis Model Aero Club
since 1955 and several times club champion. I am currently
trying to qualify for the FAI finals in October in F1A, and
was a 1960 NATS winner in that event as a senior flyer….. a
while ago.
In the next few weeks I plan to have the website up and
running and it can be found at www.glideTEK.com
I do not plan on having a big product line, but only
special models for free flight competition. But there is
also a line of entry level models in the works at
reasonable prices.
I will attend the NATS in Muncie in August, and will bring
models with for showing and sale. Look for my van with the
big glideTEK sign in the window.
Best regards
Dave Edmonson AMA #9788
Cell phone: 612-220-5239
So how do I feel about the “builder of the model rule”
Just this past month I was able to get a resolution passed
at the Minneapolis Model Aero Club meeting about the
“builder of the model rule”.
My resolution was stated like this: “I believe that we
should follow the AMA rules concerning the builder of the
model rule”. “Therefore FAI events are differed in the AMA
rule book to the FAI rule book, and therefore the builder
of the modeler rule does not apply to FAI events”. The
AMA rule book says that the builder of the model rule is
superceded by any individual event rules that do not have
this requirement.
So now anyone can attend one of our meets with the
assurance that we follow AMA and FAI rules and they will be
able to compete in the FAI events with NON Builder of the
model rule planes.
If one has a strong desire to enforce or prefers the
builder of the model rule, which by the way is
unenforceable, then they may choose to only fly AMA free
flight events. But I would suggest that they are missing
out on really growing in the sport.
Until the past 6 months, I have always built my models,
even as a junior flyer. I even beat the open flyers as a
junior frequently, even to the point of winning the club
championship flying head to head in the same events. So I
have a great joy in building models, and am looking forward
to all of the kits that I have planned to build yet before
I die.
But in recent purchases of high TEK models, I have really
been impressed with the advanced techniques of building
with carbon. This is a difficult process, and it appears
that only the most skilled builders have mastered these
techniques.
So I recommend to anyone who would like to advance in the
sport of competition free flight models, that they should
try one of the many FAI models available. I have recently
purchased my first F1G model, and have really had a ball
flying a rubber event with a world championship model……this
one being Andrey Burdov’s Maxmen FIG event winner. Not a
bad beginners model, right? I had only built one good P-30
prior to that model, so I am a rubber event beginner.
I hope this puts a little perspective into the best of both
worlds of building approaches. I have heard that there are
many flyers that either do not have time, or do not possess
the skills to make top notch models. I think it is really
neat that they can still experience the joy of a fine
flying model high up in a thermal like the hawks, buzzards,
and eagles. It always gets me excited to experience that!
Free Flight Champs 2004 flyer
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Saturday September 25 Sunday September 26
7:00 AM - 5:00 PM 7:00 AM - 4:00 PM
Awards 6:00 PM Awards 5:00 PM
Modern Events Modern Events
1/2 A Gas B Gas
A Gas Contest Directors D Gas
C Gas Daniel Heinrich P-30
Hand Launch Glider (909) 593-5789 Catapult Glider
Jr. Hand Launch Glider Jim Parker Jr. Catapult Glider
Jr. P-30 (F.A.I. Coordinator) Old Timer Gas Scale
Nostalgia Events (818) 892-4110 Nostalgia Events
1/2 A Gas 1/4 A Gas
B Gas A Gas
Vintage Wakefield (1938-1950) C Gas
F.A.I. Events F.A.I. Events
7, 1 hour rounds, 3 min. max, FO TBA 5, 1 hour rounds, 2 min. max, FO TBA
F1A (A2) F1G (Coupe)
F1B (Wakefield) Lost Hills Membership F1H (A1)
F1C (Power) Required F1J (1cc max. engine)
Old Timer Events www.losthills.net or Old Timer Events
1/2 A Texaco (7:00 AM-11:30 AM 1/4 A Texaco (7:00 AM-11:30 AM)
A Pylon Texaco (7:00 AM-11:30 AM)
B/C Fuselage A Fuselage
.020 Replica B/C Pylon
Small Rubber Stick Small Rubber Cabin
Large Rubber Cabin Large Rubber Stick
Unnofficial events Unnofficial events
F1P (SCAT sponsored) Dawn Mulvihill (7:00 AM)
Twin Pusher (9:00 AM) Gollywock Mass Launch (8:00 AM)
Night Gas Slow Gas
Registration Event Fees
All Senior, Open, and F.A.I. Registration $10.00 Senior/ Open $10.00/event
(Does not include first event) Junior $2.00/event
Junior Registration $5.00 (Includes first event) All F.A.I. Events $10.00/event
Sweepstakes and Gold Card Dining
Gold Card $60.00 (Unlimited event entry and Registration)Sloans to be on the field for
Sweepstakes Gold Card $65.00 (Gold Card and Sweepstakes) all of your dining needs
RE: USFF Champs Flyer
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There is a copy of the flyer on the Lost Hills web site (www.losthills.net, loo
k under upcoming events for September) and I will be sending out copies to ever
yone who was a Lost Hills member as of 2003. Those should be in the mail next
week. I am a little behind but trying to catch up.
Daniel Heinrich
Thanks
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.. to the musican from Bakersfield and the master woodworker from
Salinas for their donations in support on SEN
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Roger Morrell
