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SCAT Electronic News 29 Sept 2004 issue 904
Table of Contents
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F1E Slope Soaring Gliders - Brocks
WC?
Juan's contest.
Sierra Cup - McKeever
Wot no SEN or Re: SCAT Electronic News 12 September 2004 issue 902
My email is working again - Schlosberg
Nostalgia - Brokenspar
Fwd: 2004 Turkey Cancellation -
Reading Creeley - Brokenspar
A1 classics in SCAT Electronic news 44 September 2004 isue 903 JOR
Classic Glider - Nelson
Spinning Vibes
Classic Glider - Moseley
Patterson - Hines and Leath
California Invitational - Livotto
World Cup Summary - Kaynes
F1E Slope Soaring Gliders
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F1E is an international free flight class flown from a hill. Even small hills
can be fun and challenging. It is not too late to start planning to
fly a hand launched and magnet controlled free flight glider in the next
F1E Finals. This F1E Team Selection contest will be held Feb. 15, 2005 in
Lost Hills, CA. The first 3 Open category participants and the first 3 Junior
category participants (under the age of 19) will qualify for the US
Team to fly in the 2005 F1E World Championships to be held in Slovakia in
September. The entry fee for Open competitors is $50 payable to AMA (Lisa
Johnson) by Dec. 20, 2004. Junior sprortsmen also must enter but there
is no fee. On the Monday before the Finals in Lost Hills there will be the
now traditional F1E contest as part of the Isaaacson Winter Classic.
The NFFS Symposia 2002, 2003, and 2004 have good articles on F1E. I have
a list of sources for F1E components. At the upcoming "endless October" FAI
contest I will have mini-F1E fuselages for sale for $20. All that is required
is building a 24" wing and a stab to get a feel of the event. Regular
F1E models typically have wings from A-2 size to nearly 1000sqin.
Peter Brocks
WC?
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Oh yes! Might you also know the dates of the World Championships in =
Argentina. I've heard a rumor that they will be in May, but that's all.
George
Juan's contest.
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Roger,
I am unable to find an old SEN that mentions Juans contest. Might you =
know the length of the first round max Saturday?
George
Sierra Cup
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A final update on the Sierra Cup on October 14-17 before I head out to the
Finals.
I will be at Lost Hills with entry blanks for the Sierra Cup. Some have
asked for local Motel advice and hear are some selections:
Best Western-Rancho Cordova, Ca
(916) 635-7559
Crossland Economy Studios-Rancho Cordova, Ca
(877) 276-7752
Hallmark Suites-Rancho Cordova
(916) 638-4141
Inns of America-Rancho Cordova
(916) 351-1213
Remember to sign up for team events. Just E-mail me if you are out of the
country and I will accept your entry on Thursday the 14th at the field. I will
confirm your entry with a return E-mail although I will not have access E-mail
while away at our Finals from Friday Oct 1 through Oct 10. A reminder that
the banquet is Saturday Oct 16 and I need to know your selection (Beef, Chicken
or Vegetarian) if you enter while I'm at Lost Hills. I will see many of you
at the Livotto and Finals so, good luck, have a safe trip and I'll see you at
Waegell Field. Mike McKeever
Wot no SEN or Re: SCAT Electronic News 12 September 2004 issue 902
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We have not received SCAT for a while. Is there a computer problem? Do we
need to renew? Please advise. Tom and Betty Kerr
[It is not necessary to renew. It is possible that no SEN has been
published or your Internet providers considers SEN to be SPAM.
You can always verify the latest edition by going to
the web site - www.aeromodel.com/scat]
My email is working again
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Gentlemen,
My email was down since September the 13th and everything
addressed to me since then has either been returned or has
ended up in deep cyber space.
If you sent me anything important, please do me a favor and
email it again. My email is still This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Thanks,
Aram
Nostalgia
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( the Oxford has Nostalgia as a disease )
Just found,
a report of a1975 Intercitys ' F.A.I.' Contest at Base Borden, Canada,
reported by the Toronto FAI Group,
has...
P.Allnutt, first in Nordic; seventh in Wakefield
P. Beldam, first in Wakefield,
H.Broderson*, first in Power....
M.Segrave was tied for 3rd in Wakefield. ( with Willard )
Markos flew in two events: Nordic 16th, Power, 5th
Crowley flew in two events: Wakefield 15th, Nordic, 4th
Willard** flew two events; 6th in Nordic, 3rd in Wakefield
Chesson was 12th, in Power !
..a total of 58 event entrys
Of this list, Crowley and Chesson are heading for the Finals
Willard always shows up there.
Markos is CDing right and left, year after year, at Muncie,
Segrave is bicycling in Europe
Allnutt is leading a double life
Brokenspar is slowly cleaning up his basement....
...so much for nostalgia
*actually sen, claiming Danish ancestry, born in Hamburg
( although a Swede is known to have got in the tent ).
** Willard Smitz
Fwd: 2004 Turkey Cancellation
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Roger Please Post This on Sen.
Thx Don.
Note: forwarded message attached.
but not readable at SEN Central
Reading Creeley
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When he says
.......simply what it was
could never last....
I thought
what the blade
of the folding propeller
of the geared engine
wants,
is a u - joint
A1 classics in SCAT Electronic news 44 September 2004 isue 903
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I can offer plans and short kits (Holman's, actually) of three A1 towliners:
The Modelcraft "Ghost", Sottich's "Lil Dip" and Kurth's "Jetstream."
Jim O'Reilly
Classic Glider
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Hi again Roger,
Last night I sent the following email, which I have now edited slightly. If
you put this in SEN, please use this version. For one thing, I forgot to ID
myself.
Thanks again for all you do for the rest of us. See you in Lost Hills during
October.
Elmer Nelson
Revised email:
Hi Roger,
As a recent builder of an A-1, I'd like to comment on the 15 second time
limit. I'm a somewhat worn out 69 year old, but I can run (not as far as I used
to and not nearly as fast). To get to the point, in perfectly calm conditions,
if I sprint at flank speed and go until my lungs burst, I can get the little
bird almost to the top of the tow line. Or said another way, I really don't
think I can sprint much longer than 15 seconds no matter how hard I try. With a
little breeze, I can sort of kite the bird and take advantage of the conditions.
This I find fun to do. Bottom line, throw away the "on the line time limit"
and let's have a little fun. I'd also throw out the BOM rule for this event and
most other free flight events. With the exception of scale or any event
where craftsmanship is judged, I find it hard to understand those that want to
hang onto a rule that very clearly discourages many that might otherwise
join us.
Elmer Nelson
Phoenix
Spinning Vibes
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With regard to crossflow; why not use a badly balanced single bladed prop to
produce the necessary vibration?
Cheers,
John
Classic Glider
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A discussion on the Free Flight Forum, at the NFFS website, clearly
indicates a preference for truly unlimited gliders, with no specific
FAI-oriented influence
Patterson 2004 Flyer
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PATTERSON FAI INVITATIONAL 2004
America Cup Contest. Sanction # 04-....
Lost Hills, CA
November 13 & 14, 2004
F1A, B, C, G, H, J, & P
Trophies for 1st, 2nd, & 3rd place
All classes are combined; Junior / Senior / Open
SCHEDULE:
5 ROUNDS FOR F1G, H, J, P
SATURDAY 5 - 45 minute rounds. Start at 7:30 AM. All regular rounds are 2 minute Max
except 3 minute Max for F1P
Flyoff to start approximately 15 minutes after the last round in F1 ABC [~4:15]. Start and
Max times will be posted
10 ROUNDS FOR F1 ABC
SATURDAY 5-1 hour rounds. Start at 11:00 AM
SUNDAY 5-1 hour rounds. Start at 7:30 AM
All rounds are 3 minute Max except:
5th round on Saturday is 5 minutes for F1 ABC
6th round on Sunday is 4 minutes for F1A and 5 minutes for F1B&C [NOT a supermax]
Flyoff to start approximately 60 minutes after last round in F1 ABC [~1:30]. Start time and
Max times will be posted
This contest will be governed by current FAI and AMA regulations and as noted.
Time one, Fly one. Find your own timer- Pair up the usual way.
FEES:
Open: $20 for first event, $10 for any added events
Jr and Senior ages: $10 for first event, $5 for any added events
SPONSERED BY: Southern California Aero Team
CD: Don Leath, ph. (661) 273-8668
30th. California F.A.I. Invitational
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Subject : Contest flyer
Dear Roger,
Could you re post my flyer again, found some mistakes in the other one.
All FAI events will be flown on Saturday October 2nd. and the little
events on Sunday October 3rd.
Thanks
Juan
30th. California F.A.I. Invitational
OCTOBER 2nd. And 3rd. 2004
FOR CLASSES: F1-A, F1-B, F1-C, F1-G, F1-H, F1-J
SATURDAY OCT. 2ND. F1-A, F1-B and F1-C
SUNDAY OCT. 3RD. F1-G, F1-H and F1-J
F1-A, Saturday October 2nd. 2004 ** First Flight 210 Seconds
F1-B & F1-C, Saturday October 2nd. 2004 ** First Flight 240 Seconds
- -7 - One hour rounds commencing at 08:00 hours
Fly Offs will start at 4:30 PM “FIRM” as scheduled
Saturday: F1-A = 4:30 to 4:40 F1-B = 4:45 to 4:55 F1-C = 5:00 to 5:10
= 5:15 to 5:25 = 5:30 to 5:40 5:45 to 5:55
= 6:00 to 6:10 6:15 to 6:25 6:30 to 6:40
F1-G, F1-H & F1-J Sunday October 3rd. 2004
First Flight for the 3 events will be 180 Seconds
-5- One-hour rounds commencing at 08:00 hours
Fly-Offs will start shortly after the 5th. Round with the 5, 7, 9 etc.
min. increments
***There will be NO timers provided, Please find someone to fly and time with you***
AWARDS
Perpetual Trophies to winners
Crystal Trophies 1st. through 3rd. place for all events
NOTE: Per AMA directive, ALL competitors must have AMA insurance
Entry Fee US$ 20:00 for F1A, F1-B & F1-C
$10:00 for F1-G, F1-H & F1-J
(Juniors ½ price)
Contest Director: Juan A. Livotto, 13212 Lake St. LA, CA, 90066, USA
Phone (310) 391-5986…….e-mail This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Year 2003 WINNERS
F1-A: V. STAMOV F1-B: W. GHIO F1-C: E. VERBITSKY
F1-G: J. CLAPP F1-H: D. PARKER F1-J: E. CARROLL
World Cup Summary
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Last update 25 September 2004
Top results in each class are given on this page,
Competition results including scores are available - select the name from the summary lists printed on this page after F1C and F1E.
FAI World Cup 2004 top positions for class F1A
1 Per Findahl SWE 150 SC-1 VJ-1 PT-2 ES-3 BZ-3 HL-4 BC-4 SH-4 BL-7 DK-16 VT-2
2 Vladislav Lazarevich UKR 144 AN-1 SW-1 HL-2 BL-2 VT-4 ML-12 KH-12
3 Mikhail Kochkarev RUS 144 BZ-1 AC-1 MM-2 OM-3 SN-3 SC-5 KZ-9 DK-14
4 John Carter GBR 134 SH-1 VH-1 HL-3 EF-4 SU-7 VT-6 BZ-14 DK-19 BC-21
5 Lee Hines USA 130 KU-1 AC-2 OM-2 SN-10
6 Pieter de Boer NED 111 SZ-2 DK-2 NC-4 EF-7
FAI World Cup 2004 top positions for class F1A-Junior
1 Veronika Vivchar UKR 158 PT-1 KH-1 EF-1 SH-1 ML-4 AN-3
2 Janis Zarins LAT 154 PZ-1 SC-1 BZ-1 DK-3 BC-5
3 Dmytro Levchenko UKR 146 ES-1 ML-1 AN-2 PT-14 KH-3
4 Istvan Szentpeteri HUN 142 SM-1 SA-1 PZ-2 NC-3
5 Matthew Cuthbert GBR 125 HL-1 VT-1 PT-5
6 Tomasz Drozdzinski POL 117 GL-1 LC-2 AN-4 SU-4
FAI World Cup 2004 top positions for class F1B
1 Anselmo Zeri NED 164 PT-1 EF-1 SU-1 SC-7 HL-15 PL-9
2 Russell Peers GBR 152 VT-1 SH-1 VH-1 BC-2 HL-3 DK-6 MM-10 PL-10 EF-22
3 Ivan Kolic YUG 152 SB-1 NC-1 UN-1 DZ-2 SZ-4 VJ-4 PZ-7 EF-7 SM-3
4 Bernd Silz GER 147 PL-1 SC-1 DK-2 VJ-2 SU-3 HL-4 SZ-11 EF-19 PZ-16
5 Terry Bond AUS 147 AC-1 KU-1 SN-1 OM-5
6 Anatoly Rybchenkov RUS 147 BZ-1 KH-1 KZ-2
FAI World Cup 2004 top positions for class F1C
1 Reinhard Truppe AUT 155 SU-1 PT-1 SA-1 UN-1 SC-2 HL-2 DK-2 BZ-3 VJ-4 NC-5 IK-2
2 Laszlo Patocs HUN 151 VJ-1 SB-1 LC-1 SM-2
3 Juri Roots EST 145 ES-1 DK-1 BL-2 SC-4 BZ-4
4 Roy Summersby AUS 140 OM-1 SN-1 KU-2 AC-3
5 Eugene Verbitsky UKR 137 PZ-1 AN-2 ML-2 MM-3 KH-6
6 Kaarle Kuukka FIN 123 BL-1 HL-1 ES-6
F1A/B/C contests included in the 2004 results
numbers flying in Jury report
F1A F1A-junior F1B F1C links
MM Maxmen International USA February 13-16 59 7 52 26
PL Criterium Phillipe Lepage FRA February 28 0 0 35 0
BC Bear Cup FIN March 6 60 17 18 4
HL Holiday on Ice NOR March 20-21 64 5 42 6 Jury report
VT Matfors VT International SWE March 27 23 1 11 0 Jury report
AC Australian Free Flight Championships AUS April 10-11 20 1 15 7 Jury report
SN Southern Cross Cup AUS April 13-14 19 1 9 4
LC City Cup of Lucenec SVK April 17 25 5 5 5 Jury report
KU Kotuku Cup NZL April 19-21 15 0 12 4 Jury report
OM Omara Cup NZL April 22-25 12 0 11 4
SB Kup Slavonije I Baranje CRO April 24-25 21 1 12 3 Jury report
BL Baltic Cup LTU April 30 42 19 24 12 Jury report
ES Estonian Free Flight Cup EST May 1 43 19 24 12 Jury report
SM 21st Srem Cup SCG May 15-16 17 5 6 3 Jury report
SU Sezimovo Usti CZE May 21-23 79 12 32 13 Jury report
PZ 20th Puszta cup HUN May 29-30 113 13 43 18 Jury report
NC Novohrad Cup of Slovakia SVK June 5-6 42 10 11 10 Jury report
VH Taça Von Hafe POR June 5-6 4 0 4 0 Jury report
DZ 37th Memorijal Dj. Zigic SCG June 19 13 0 6 2
GL Open International POL June 26-27 16 6 0 0 Jury report
KZ Kazan cup RUS June 26-27 39 6 35 11 Jury report
KH Kharkiv Cup UKR July 2-4 23 8 18 12 Jury report
SC Scania cup SWE July 2-4 46 6 30 8 Jury report
DK Nordic Cup of Denmark DEN July 5 48 7 26 6 Jury report
AN Antonov Cup UKR July 9-11 34 11 24 16
VJ Vörös Jeno Memorial Contest HUN July 10 49 10 8 7
ML Odesa Black Sea Cup / Moldova MLD July 16-18 42 11 20 15
HC Huron Cup CAN July 17-18 10 0 10 3 Jury report
BZ Buzau Cup ROM July 31 - August 1 50 6 35 8
PT Poitou FRA August 5-7 122 33 62 15 Jury report
SW Summer Cup POL August 6-8 14 1 4 4 Jury report
IK Memorijal Izet Kurtalic BIH August 14 23 0 12 5 Jury report
SZ Salzland cup GER August 20-22 64 12 38 13
UN Una Cup BIH August 28 11 1 8 2 Jury report
EF 35th Internationaler Eifel Pokal GER September 2-5 68 8 51 10 Jury report
SA Siscia Cup CRO September 4 27 5 10 7 Jury report
SH Stonehenge Cup GBR September 18-19 32 3 18 3
F1A/B/C contests still to count for 2004
53rd Israel Free Flight Championship ISR August 27-28
Canada Cup CAN September 4-6
Cup of Aviaprom RUS September 16-18
Krka Cup SLO October 8-10
Sierra Cup USA October 15-17
FAI World Cup 2004 top positions for class F1E
1 Marian Popescu ROM 128 CS-1 NA-1 CV-7 LP-11 MC-15 MK-10 TC-8
2 Daniel Petcu ROM 120 CS-2 LP-2 TC-3 CV-4 MK-11 NA-7 MC-12
3 Fritz Mang AUT 113 TC-1 MC-3 RA-5 CV-6 MK-20 NA-13
4 Florian Draghici ROM 108 NA-2 CV-2 CS-6 LP-7 RA-14 MC-16 MK-7
5 Daniel Bildea (J) ROM 104 LP-1 TC-4 CS-5 MK-8 CV-17 NA-10 MC-7
6 Adrian Draghici (J) ROM 91 MK-1 LP-8 RA-12 CS-12 MC-20 CV-3
FAI World Cup 2004 top positions for class F1E-Junior
1 Daniel Bildea ROM 154 TC-1 LP-1 CS-1 MK-4 RA-4 CV-5 MC-4 NA-3
2 Adrian Draghici ROM 135 MK-1 RA-2 CS-2 LP-3 TC-6 NA-7 MC-6 CV-2
3 Cristian Faur ROM 105 CV-1 TC-4 LP-4 RA-5 MC-7 NA-4 MK-6
4 Jakub Janata CZE 84 MC-1 RA-3
5 Patricia Valastiakova SVK 76 MK-2 MC-3 LP-5
6 Razvan Corodea ROM 75 NA-2 MK-3 CV-4 TC-7
F1E contests included in the 2004 results
numbers flying in Jury report
F1E F1E junior links
CS 24th Coppa Sisemol ITA May 7-9 43 4 Jury report
LP Liptov Cup SVK May 15 38 10 Jury report
MC Mayor Cup Liptovska Mikulas SVK May 16 48 18 Jury report
NA Napoca cup ROM June 17-18 38 13
TC Turda cup ROM June 18-19 42 16
MK 5th Mikulas cup of Hungary HUN September 4 50 19 Jury report
CV 1st Cavalloni cup of Hungary HUN September 5 39 14 Jury report
RA Open International CZE September 9 60 12 Jury report
F1E contests still to count for 2004
Open International World Cup Contest POL September 24
Open International World Cup Contest POL September 25
Oberkotzau GER October 8-9
Föhrlberg cup GER October 9-10
This information produced by Ian Kaynes
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Roger Morrell
