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News and Reports 2003
SCAT Electronic News 9 August 2003 issue 816
Table of Contents
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Kibbiedome annual 2003 - Dorsett
Is the Puppy a REAL Gas event? - Wilkinson
More Nats Scores
Up with Pylons - Herm
FW: Reaching Joe M and Kudos - SweepetteLee
Kibbiedome annual 2003
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I have just returned from Moscow Idaho and the great Kibbiedome Annual.
We flew from 8AM to 8PM for four days, any event any time. 135 foot clear
the entire length of the football field,smooth ceiling, no girders. the
big news: there is a new big gun on the indoor scene.Mark Bennet took
the measure of Jim Richmond andSteve Brown as well as the others by
winning F1D. He put up two flights of over 31 minutes. Conditions :79
degrees,31% humidity constant 12 hours each day.
Chuck Dorsett
Is the Puppy a REAL Gas event?
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rodger.
ronnie thompson went to the nats this year.
he entered eight gas events and took first place in
six events and a second and a third in the other two
events.
this is some kind of flying.
thx don.
[Don
There are times when I feel that editorially etc we have mellowed
and departed from true SCAT tradition ...
going back to our origins, I can say in true Hartillian fashion
that I do not see how someone could enter in 8 gas events at
a contest seeing there are only 2 - F1C and F1J .. with possibly
a extension to include the Puppy ....]
More Nats Scores
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.. of the real events
F1G
1 O CHARLES R JONES AVON LAKE, OH 780
2 O PAUL E SIMON NEW BALTIMORE, MI 758
3 O GREG J SIMON COMMERCE TOWNSHIP, MI 735
4 S BEN R THOMSON KILLINGWORTH, CT 729
5 O FREDERICK A BLOM TIMONIUM, MD 598
6 O JOSEPH M WILLIAMS BROOKVILLE, PA 592
7 O JAMES FERWERDA KENOSHA, WI 591
8 O JAMES E KEPPLER INDEPENDENCE, OH 586
9 O EDWARD KONEFES WAUCONDA, IL 583
10 O BOB HATSCHEK DOUGLASTON, NY 582
11 O PAUL S MASTERMAN PORTER, IN 571
11 O RICHARD L WOOD PHOENIX, AZ 571
13 O CHARLES S MARKOS DEERFIELD, IL 570
14 O JOHN T WATTERS BATTLE CREEK, MI 567
15 O EDWARD J HARDIN KINGSTON, TN 563
16 O GEORGE R CLOWES FLOSSMOOR, IL 560
17 O GORDON L DONA BLOOMINGTON, MN 559
18 S DAVID C GIBSON CORNELL MARYVILLE, MO 557
19 O JIM JENNINGS HENDERSONVILLE, TN 555
20 O EDWARD O WILEY LAWRENCE, KS 553
21 O JOHN G KAMLA SEATTLE, WA 547
22 S RYAN R JONES AVON LAKE, OH 544
23 O JOHN R ODWYER CROWLY, TX 526
23 O EDDIE O VANLANDINGHAM MANSFIELD, TX 540
24 O CHRIS M MATSUNO SAINT LOUIS, MO 524
25 O RICHARD A PIVITT TAYLOR, MI 521
26 O THOMAS G IOERGER FULTON, MD 486
27 O ANDREW W RINGLIEN CHARLOTTE, NC 445
28 S PHILIP J SCHEIMAN PALO ALTO, CA 444
29 O JAMES L GERSZEWSKI NEW BERLIN, WI 439
30 O DAVID L SECHRIST ELKHART, IN 365
30 O JAMES A PIVITT TAYLOR, MI 365
32 O WARREN J RINGLIEN NORTHFIELD, MN 321
33 O DAVID MILLS ATLANTA, GA 317
34 O DONALD A BERGGREN COTTAGE GROVE, MN 312
35 O MICHAEL F BASTA LENEXA, KS 263
F1G Junior Coupe d'Hiver
1 J ALEXANDRA M PROFFITT WOODHAVEN, MI 702
2 J JOHN A SHAILOR ROYAL OAK, MI 568
3 J EVAN SIMON COMMERCE TWP, MI 567
4 J TAYLOR W BURROWS PHOENIX, AZ 530
5 J JOSHUA A REVKIN NEW HAVEN, CT 494
6 J AMANDA J WATSON CANTON, MI 366
8 J JONATHAN WATSON CANTON, MI 235
151 F1B Wakefield
1 O CHARLES R JONES AVON LAKE, OH 1349
2 O ROBERT T BIEDRON HAMPTON, VA 1509
3 O ANDREW R BARRON NORTH HAVEN, CT * 2120
4 O EDWARD O WILEY LAWRENCE, KS 1760
5 O DAVID D ELLIS GUILFORD, CT 1243
6 S EDWIN J AVALLONE GRAND RAPIDS, MI 1242
7 S PHILIP J SCHEIMAN PALO ALTO, CA 1233
8 O THOMAS G IOERGER FULTON, MD 1215
9 J TAYLOR A GUNDER RED LION, PA 1211
10 S SARAH L RADZIUNAS NORTHFORD, CT 1201
11 O THOMAS F JONES AVON LAKE, OH 1194
12 O GREG J SIMON COMMERCE TOWNSHIP, MI 1169
13 O WILLIAM D SHAILOR ROYAL OAK, MI 1151
14 O CHRIS M MATSUNO SAINT LOUIS, MO 1135
15 O RICHARD L WOOD PHOENIX, AZ 1107
16 O JAMES E KEPPLER INDEPENDENCE, OH 1057
17 S LEE WANG ORANGE, CT 1055
18 S PAUL C SHAILOR ROYAL OAK, MI 1037
19 S RYAN R JONES AVON LAKE, OH 1007
20 O ELMER E NELSON PHOENIX, AZ 986
21 O JOHN R SEYMOUR RADNER, OH 931
22 J EVAN SIMON COMMERCE TWP, MI 577
23 O FREDERICK A BLOM TIMONIUM, MD 407
24 S DAVID C GIBSON CORNELL MARYVILLE, MO 404
* Andrew's time looks wrong but it must be correct as it came
from the AMA
Also I note some glider flyers are seeing the light and moving
to the #1 event , firstly Mr Bradley, then Prof Barron and
David D must be the smartest seeing he figured it at
the youngest age ?
Up with Pylons
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Roger,
I have to agree with Skykieng (Down with T-tails) that T-tails are not the
best choice for most FF models. Hoerner points out that T-tails are
susceptable to deep stall. This results from the stab going from clean air
to the reduced velocity of the wing wake as the angle of attack increases,
creating havoc with stability. A stiking example of this was my Big Ten,
30:1 Nordic which would only do 1/4 the time if stalled off the line as when
floated off.
Guess Bogie would suggest making a model of the model to sort out stability
problems, but I always get a lot of flak for that. Still is a good idea
that I usually use to verify the problem, rather than avoiding it.
The high tail has distinct advantages in protecting the tail from landing
damage. My first Nordic (Desert Rat) was based on Hank Cole's Tail high
record holder. The torsional problems were avoided by running the boom up
to the stab. Possibly due to the close coupling and tip or poly dihedral
the deep stall never got out of hand. Both of these models enjoyed good
contest results and set AMA records.
While it is possible to make sucessful tail-high machines, a pylon is more
stable and gets the wing in cleaner air for better performance.
Up with Pylons,
Thanks to you and Geroge for keeping
H
FW: Reaching Joe M and Kudos
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FYI, Joe's photo biz website is: picturejoe.com
I want to thank you, of course, & Dr. Bob Perkins and all the NATS
volunteers for all the fine work you did to make the 2003 NATS one
of the best ones yet.
At this time I must wish son John and the rest of our Jr FF Team the very
best in their quest for supremicy at next year's World Championships!
Sincerely,
Lee
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Roger Morrell
