SEN-379 March 3 2000
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News and Reports 2000 - First half
SCAT Electronic News 3 March 2000
Tabkle of Contents
missing Murf - Sapwell
real Feb rubber ? - Schroedter
Comments re plastic and steel cleaning. - Andresen
Rubber for sale - Shailor
MaxMen 14 Rounder and Motorbike - Kowal
180 Max - Goodnow
NZ Stomps Boot boys - Hines
2001 World Champs - Robbins
RCDT - Ramrod250
Mike's Bike - Woodhouse
RC/DT - Baughman
Cleveland Model Supply - Wagner
MicaFilm - Wagner
Spring Cup - Hines
HI.. talked to chris/s brother today.he says...
chris is still having trouble with a lap top.and g etting to a free phone
line where he is can be his biggest problem..also chris,s term is getting to
the end,maybee around a month to 6 weeks left,,we have been asked to supply
some parts for model boxes sohe must have things to bring back,,
we believe that he may be doing some visiting on the way home also..
for those trying to reach him try FAX no 00,,97249924145 ....this could bee
very busy try till u get an answer..
cheers Hec nz
Feb. rubber ?
I wrote that bit about the Feb. '00 rubber between the Isaacson and the
Max Men contests. At the Max Men, John Clapp told me that the box was
stamped "Feb. '00" because that was when it was shipped, but the correct
batch date is Jan. '00. That was when it was made. Yesterday I received
an e-mail from John stating that he will shortly get in another batch
and it will be the Feb. '00 batch. Obviously, we have no idea at this
time whether the Feb. '00 batch will be good, bad or otherwise. Hence, I
need to make this clarification.
Comments re plastic and steel cleaning.
Audiophiles were slow to accept the CD as their systems reproduced all the
digits. After high end electronics improved, a few brave souls made
extravagant claims for coating the bottom of the CD with ArmorAll and using
a special green pen (absorbs the red laser light). Soon whole collections
were being treated. ArmorAll stock surged. 6 or 8 months later the news
leaked out that the treatment caused crazing and all those CD's were ruined.
Record company stock surged. Have had similar, but quicker result with
Freon and polycarbonate. This plastic is great stuff, used for bulletproof
windows, has good electrical, optical and mechanical properties, BUT, like
your bod, be careful what you put in it.
Was doing a Google search on rust removal to see if Coke was better than
EZoff oven cleaner for cleaning up old tools. Not a problem a desert rat
normally encounters. Anyhow the consenses was none of the above. Many
sites touting electrolysis (think the techs used to call it reverse plating.
Will let interested download the fine details, but basically a bucket of
water with washing soda added, holds the rusty part & a cathode (like a
stainless pan lid). A battery charger is connected + to the part & - to the
lid. Plug it in and watch the crud bubble to the top. A few hours later
the rust has disappeared without hurting any printing, ready for a trip to
the desert for storage.
Wonder how big of a charger it would take to do an entire car?
Anyone have o pool I can borrow for a weekend?
Rubber for Sale
For Sale... I have about 9 pounds of 1/8 May 1999 Tan II and 8 1/2 pounds
of 1/8 Feb. 1999 Tan II for sale. Price based on amount left in a ten pound
box, i.e, 9/10 ths of $135.00.
14 rounder and motorbikes
I had a great time at the 14 rounder this year as always
but one thing I missed was flying with sportsmen from
out of the county. This year the pole I flew from had some
great sportsmen but none from out of the U.S.
As a suggestion to follow up the discussion on motorbikes
for those from out of the county, I have a motorbike I use to
chase and would very much like to be paired up with a flyer
from outside the U.S. who could utilize my bike for chasing
as we time each others flights. Since I do not get the opportunity
to fly outside the U.S. this is my only chance during the year
to meet new and interesting people in the sport. I do not
know if this would cause a great deal of trouble for the
organizers but might just require an extra box to check
on the entry form. just a thought ---Ken---
I have a copt of 180 Max . It's not in great shape but if anyone wishes to
borrow it e-mail me your adress and I'll loan it out .
Thermals: Brooks Goodnow
NZ Stomps the Boot Boys!
Roger, they never even got up a sweat, did they?
Wow, how much more speed they had in hand, is the real BlackMagic query.
Do you wish you were there?
[Well, Lee is your BlackMagic going to help you do an
America's Cup repeat too ? ]
2001 World Champs
Bring on the world champs to Lost Hills!
Oakland Cloud Dusters WILL supply plenty of help.
Herb the Editor.
One more thought on RCDT: Who will be in charge of frequency control? How will
this be accommodated at large contests such as the Max Men, where there may be
be 100 flights in a relatively short time? Will there have to be a transmitter
impound? Frequency pins? Channel analyzers? Where will the additional manpower
Pity the poor CD who has to round up even more people to run a contest, let alo
ne having to deal with the radio-related issues.
the RCDT work on the same frequency - they transmit a unique
digital signal that includes a personal pin number/ This number
is different for every user. It is possible that
there could be a conflicy between different manufactureres
or with an unscrupilous user who swamped all the others.
>Here's your bike, Mike
>Roger (lurker) Grigsby.
Thanks for the offer. This is one of the nice things about our past
time, the help that is given so readily.
Michael J Woodhouse
I have been reading the flap over RC/DT for months. Everyone seems to
have one proposal or another regarding radio control of freeflight
models. I believe the discussion is moot.
I don't think the argument stems from the radio control of freeflight
models, rather is comes from sportsmen who believe that they will be
cheated by other "sportsmen" who have the potential to use an unfair
advantage. This is a contradiction. The word, "sportsman" implies one
who plays by the rules and doesn't use unfair advantage to win
It seems to me that all the complainers out there are concerned that
they will be beaten in competition by someone who, through innovation,
develops a potential advantage. Goldberg's pylon invention was a
threat, so was his invention of the pop-up stab dethermalizer. Schnurle
engines were a threat, so were tuned pipes. Motorcycle retrieval gave a
great advantage. Timers with binoculars was a potential advantage.
Electronic timers gave an advantage, so did fibreglass, carbon fibre,
kevlar, circle-tow, and monofilament towlines. Did not having to build
your own model give or take an advantage away?
Does any model with all of the modern technical "advances" guarantee a
win? Does the "sportsman" who acquires and flies a model with all the
latest gadgets positively assure himself a win on the field? Why are
all of you "doomsayers" afraid? In modeling, as in life, "If you do
what you have always done, you are going to get what you always got".
Get a life, guys. Freeflight competition will always be about putting a
good model into good air. A good model launched into bad air will
always fly like a bad model. RC/DT is not going to ruin the sport. Only
bad sports, whiners and complainers will ruin the sport.
If somebody cheats, Contest Directors have the authority and duty to
send the cheater home. The RC/DT question is not about cheating. The
real question is being avoided; if a "sportsman" is cheating, does
anyone have the cahones to expose that person for what he is? We need
to police our own sport. We don't have referees. If we don't act when
we see cheating, then we are just as guilty as the cheater.
Remember this: Real sportsmen don't need to cheat, they innovate.
Cleveland Model Supply
Jeff and Roger,
E.L.Packard passed away a few years back and I don't believe anyone took over
the company or the plans. For a while someone sold a bunch of stuff in
groups buit I haven't seen anything recently. Packard served the modelers
for almost 90 years. If anyone has any interest I have a collection of plans
in the 3/4" scale, maybe some 1/2" scale, that I would be glad to copy for
whatever it costs me. They are mostly racing and golden age era. I will
check for Jeff in my reference stuff, I know I have a bunch on the Hughes
racer, it will take me a bit. regards again, Joe
Roger, have been busy and not able to respond well to the newsletter. In
reference to George and his MicaFilm/balsarite question. I had a bit of
trouble with balsarite and it adhering well to the carbon fibre trailing
edges and dihedral ribs. I would have preferred using micafilm verses
polyfilm because it would ultimately come out lighter. I have found SIG
Stick-It to be a better product for adherence qualities than just dope in the
same situation with polyfilm. I tried a sample with the MicaFilm and find it
works pretty well. Medium heat with an iron. The only problem I still find
with MicaFilm is patches. Any small patches have a tendency to pull away
from the edges quickly when shrinking tight. I would recommend polyfilm
patches doped on for small tears or punctures. Small panel areas (2 ribs or
so) I would again use Polyspan, you could try the StickIt with the MicaFilm
it would probably work, that is still to be tried. My new F1C will probably
have the MicaFilm(?). Roger, are you planning to come to the meet in
April??? regards, Joe
[Joe - I hope to be there .. not quiet as windy as last time please ... Roger]
I am sure if you contact Faust Parker he will provide the Spring Cup info.
Last year's date was in late April, about 25th.