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SCAT Electronic News 9 July 2005 issue 955
Table of Contents
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Odessa On-Line - Stamov
Young French Flyer Wants F1A Help - Mc Keever
July issue of Free Flight Quarterly is out - Montes
Sky-Scraper Annual this Weekend - Barron
Fwd: F1P - Lorbiecki and Chaussebourg
Inter-City Contest - June 17-19, 2005
Memories... - Keviile
KK Senator Postal Contest - Moseley
May 99 Tan II Rubber - Schroedter
Junior Stuff at the Natz - Wagner
Odessa On-Line
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From: "Victor STAMOV"
During "Black Sea Cup" (July, 14- 18, 2005) it will be
possible to see competition results in real time (only with 20
minutes delay) at http://www.odessa-cup.farlep.net/
according to the Schedule at the same web site. You also can
watch competition through web camera in real time and maybe
"fresh" pictures will be there too. It is our first
experience, please be patient if something will be wrong.
Thank you.
Regards,
Victor
Young French Flyer Wants F1A Help
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I have been corresponding with a 19 year old French F1A flyer who is
interested in airfoil research for F1A high performance still air models.
I have come
clean and advised I have Victor Stamov models but realize there has been some
significant computer and wind tunnel work done by others, namely the Toronto
FAI group, notably Peter Allnut. I do not think Peter has joined the PC
Generation (unusual given his prior research) but I suspect others
can help Julien.
He is interested in corresponding with anyone who is working on airfoil
design, both with their PCs or with a wind tunnel, or with computer programs to
simulate performance. He has an "Xfoil" program currently. Sounds like an up
and comer to me and any help he can get from an interested F1A mentor would
help. He can be reached at: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Pierre Brun is another guy
that comes to mind as a mentor. Although he does not think his English good
enough to post this note, his English is easily understandable over E-mail.
Thanks. Mike McKeever
July issue of Free Flight Quarterly is out
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This new Free Flight Quarterly issue
continues the P30 theme, with a collection of articles and plans, which
include models from Australia, USA and France. Among them is a new
version of John Kamla's Marie, with ; new wing structure and simpler
fuselage, Jim Mayes' Accipiter P30, a fast climbing 10-strand design
and many others for you to enjoy. These is also a look at optimum P30
airfoils.
The issue ; also contains ; a report on the 2005 FF World Champs in
Argentina by the Ed., an interview to Evgenyi Verbitsky, the great F1C
flyer, by Gil Morris, ; experiences flying the F1B Welles, the DIY
substitute for CF ships from the vivid pen of Klaus Salzer, as well as
a construction feature of a Chester Lanzo Vintage model, the Airborn
Class B gas model from Tandy Walker.
Judging by the good reception of the past Special issue on P30, our
magazine will bring out in the near future other special issues, in
which we concentrate on a particular FF class.
Sergio Montes
Sky-Scraper Annual this Weekend
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Colleagues,
Here is a reminder of the Sky-Scraper Annual this weekend
in Wawayanda, New York. The schedule posted at
www.brooklynskyscrapers.org is shown below, with the addition
that we will be running F1Q (the new FAI electric freeflight event).
This schedule is the same as the last two contests there this year.
Thermals,
Andrew Barron
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SKYSCRAPER ANNUAL
America's Cup and National Cup
FAI, AMA, Nostalgia, SAM
July 9-10, 2005
Barron, Ford, and Shuback Fields
Wawayanda, New York
FAI EVENTS:
Saturday July 9:
F1G (small rubber), F1H (small glider), F1J (small power).
120 second maxes. America's Cup Competition
Round 1: 9:30-11:00am
Round 2: 10:30-12:00
Round 3: 11:30- 1:00
Round 4: 12:30- 2:00pm
Round 5: 1:30- 3:00pm
Flyoffs: 3:15pm --
FAI events: F1A (glider), F1B (wakefield), F1C&P (power), plus F1Q.
America's Cup competition
Sunday Morning July 10:
Round 1: 7:00- 8:30am Max 240 sec (weather permitting)
Round 2: 8:00- 9:30am Max 180 sec
Round 3: 9:00-10:30am Max TBA
Round 4: 10:00-11:30am
Round 5: 11:00-12:30pm
Round 6: 12:00-1:30pm
Round 7: 1:00-2:30pm
*Note that F1P and F1Q will fly their rounds alonside F1A/B/C, with same
max. F1P motor run will be 10 seconds, weather permitting.
FAI director: Andrew Barron (203-248-5386, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.).
Assistant FAI Director: TBA.
FAI fliers enter at SkyScraper table before first flight.
Flight cards may be left at flight line on official clipboards, for
recording by FAI CD.
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AMA, NFFS, AND SAM EVENTS
National Cup Competition: (Note, all the junior national cup events
are included as separate sanctioned events, and the results will be
reported as such. Likewise for the various classic and nostalgia open
events. The event combinations shown below are for local award purposes.)
Saturday July 9: 9am--5:00pm. [Awards at 5:00pm.]
Hand Launch Glider, 1/2A Gas, ABC Classic, ABC Nostalgia, Mulvihill,
AB Electric, Classic Towline.
Nostalgia Wake/Rubber and SAM Old-time Rubber (combined).
Early Sunday:
Dawn Unlimited (Gather with CDs at 6:30am on field for ground rules).
Sunday July 10: 8am to 4:00pm. [Awards at 4:00pm.]
Catapult Glider, 1/2 A Classic, 1/2 A Nostalgia, P-30 Rubber,
Pee-Wee 30 Power.
SAM Old Time Gas (all SAM Gas classes combined).
AMA and NFFS Contest Directors:
Bob Geyer (913 Washington St., Baldwin, NY 11510: ph.516-546-3383).
Don Rousseau (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., ph.631-691-1886).
SAM Consultant:
John Stott 203-426-5190, Mal MacLean 631-499-7917, or Al Vollmer.
Open fliers pay $25 ($10 field use fee, plus $15 entry which
covers unlimited number of AMA, NOS, SAM, and FAI events).
Juniors and Seniors pay $15 total ($10 field use plus $5 entry).
Awards:
One wood trophy per sufficiently high finishing contestant.
Labeled plates which adhere to the trophy are awarded
for each finish in the top three in an event,
and to best finishing Junior or Senior in each event flown.
Dorothy Waddington trophy for best junior performance.
Art Phillips Perpetual Trophy for Dawn Unlimited.
Al Casano commemorative trophy for top performance in any
above event with a model designed by Al Casano.
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The field is on Orange County Route 12, in Wawayanda, six miles
south of Route 17M near Middletown, NY. Nearby airports include
Newburg, NY (30 min from field) or White Plains, NY; Hartford, CT;
LaGuardia, NY; Albany, NY; Newark, NJ; or Wilks-Barre-Scranton, PA
(all of which are less than 2 hours from the field).
Fwd: F1P
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From: "pierre.chaussebourg"
To:
John,
F1P is an FAI class for Junior, for Junior World Championship. But it is
still an FAI provosional class, as F1H, F1G, F1J, and as such, it can be
flown by anybody...!
The only thing with the Junior W/Champs, is that the power class for
Juniors at W/Ch is F1P and nothing else (NO F1C and no F1J).
Best regards,
Inter-City Contest - June 17-19, 2005
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FAI Results
F1A
5 Entries; 5 Flew
Place Name Time
1st Place Robert Sifleet 975
2nd Place Chuck Markos 951
3rd Place Tzvetan Tzvetkov 831
4th Place Lee Hines 818
5th Place Kyle Jones (Junior) 670
F1A Team
Tzvetan Tavetko and Kyle Jones
F1B
16 Entries; 14 Flew
Place Name Time
1st Place Greg Simon 1398
2nd Place Bob Bidron 1390
3rd Place Ryan Jones 1343
4th Place Evan Simon (Junior) 1008
5th Place Ron Felix 991
6th Place Paul Shailor (Junior) 975
7th Place Tom Ioerger 974
8th Place Paul Crowley 838
9th Place Richard MacCleery 808
10th Place Jerry McGlashan 807
11th Place John Seymour 795
12th Place Bill Shailor 790
13th Place Charlie Jones 780
14th Place Joe Frisbis 702
F1B Team
Evan Simon and Paul Shailor
F1C
5 Entries; 4 Flew
Place Name Time
1st Place Gill Morris 1115
2nd Place Norman Poti 1111
3rd Place Bucky Servaites 1073
4th Place Bob Gutai 963
5th Place John Lorbiecki, Jr. 120
F1C Team
Norman Poti and Bob Gutai
F1G
9 Entries; 9 Flew
Place Name Time
1st Place Tom Ioerger 603
2nd Place Alex Proffitt (Junior) 600
3rd Place Chuck Markos 526
4th Place Bill Jackson 524
5th Place Richard MacCleery 503
6th Place Ryan Jones 360
7th Place John Shailor (Junior) 312
8th Place Dale Wilson 194
9th Place Hardy Brodersen 10
F1H
6 Entries; 6 Flew
Place Name Time
1st Place Lee Hines 586
2nd Place Kyle Jones (Junior) 576
3rd Place Joe Mekina 574
4th Place Bob Sifleet 551
5th Place Lee Campbell 317
6th Place Chuck Markos 210
F1J
4 Entries; 4 Flew
Place Name Time
1st Place Jim Haught 753
2nd Place Bob Gutai 750
3rd Place Joe Mekina 324
4th Place Norman Poti 227
F1P - Junior-Senior
0 Entries; 0 Flew
Memories...
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Thanks to SEN, this CL Stunt flyer has re-connected with many former FF
friends...and boy am I surprised to see that some of the "Juniors" of
those days now have kids of their own in competition! Back when I was
chasing Coupes and A/1s at Taft, Randy Secor and Brian Van Nest were
the kids. Randy was hot in 1/2A FF and Brian....well, young Brian was
instrumental in my winning a couple of Firsts in HLG when he ran around
"picking air" for me. Then there's John Lorbiecki. John and his family
were guests in our home (Lakewood, CA) prior to a mid-'70s USFFC where
we flew our tails off with the sole result that I placed 4th (out of
91...yes, 91) entries in 'A'-Gas with 26:31. Every other try of ours
that year was for naught, but we sure had fun! Mik Mikkelson was a
welcoming party for me when I got into FF Rubber Scale in 1979 ... Sal
was a near-neighbor who never failed to open his home for help and
advice ... Les DeWitt and Vic Cunnyngham were once my bosses at a So. El
Monte manufacturing plant ... the late Bob Isaacson taught me well about
HLG, and I still have the trophies to prove it ... Bob White, extremely
gracious when this unknown "hacker" twice bested him in CdH ... Bob
Beecroft sending strips of choice rubber to Kuwait when I was trying to
develop a world-beater Catapault Glider there (it turned out to be a
loser) ... but mostly seeing those "kids", now dads, having their own
kids in the thick of things. Although today my FF activity is still in
the future (Early Nostalgia Zeek under construction for next January's
SW Regionals) this site is a blast for an old fart who has fond memories
of "back when". Thanks!!!
Mike Keville
Tucson, AZ
KK Senator Postal Contest
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Total prize monies for the 'KK Senator' Postal now exceed USD$340.00 and
are expected to rise further as donations are received; contest closes
December 31st.
Model details, plan at http://www.theplanpage.com/st.htm, event
details from This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
May 99 Tan II Rubber
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Roger,
I wanted to mention that if any indoor fliers are interested in some May
99 or Aug 93 Tan II rubber I noticed that E-bay had some small
quantities up for bid.
Marty
Junior Stuff at the Natz
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John, Am I correct that the Juniors are still flying Sunday as previous
years?? AND that would include the F1P event as well as Wakefield and
Glider; SOOO the F1P, flown with F1C is additional; SOOOOO that gives the
kids another shot at proving themselves; I am assuming. I think both these
events added is great, If you need help with trophies or I might award a
kit to the Junior on F1C day; what do you think???? Joe W
.................
Roger Morrell
