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News and Reports 2003
SCAT Electronic News 30 May 2003 issue 801
Table of Contents
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Big Als 2003 - Ghio
Sierra Champs Results - Mattes
No More Icarex...... - Lorbiecki
2003 NATS-USOC information - Perkins
Catapult Glider - Barker
Western FAI Challenge Canceled - Roberts
NorCal F1A flyoff - McKeever
Skyscrapers International Challenge - Schlosberg
ZIT Etimer from Slovakia - SweepetteLee
Posting of FAI F1C and FF items for sale - Anderson
Voros Jeno Contest ? - Ackery
World cup " SREM CUP " - Raletic
WW1 Plans - Smiley
Thanks
Big Als 2003
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After very high winds Friday evening and Saturday morning
the 2003 Bissonnette Memorial was held Sunday, May 25th.
All six events were started and finished on the same day in
excellent flying conditions. F1G was the only event that
did not require a flyoff. Several flyers said that the
conditions were very tricky and the scores reflected the
conditions. F1A started out with five flyers in the flyoff
and ended with Norm Smith winning over Jim Parker in the
last round of the day at 7:50 pm. Each had made the five,
seven and nine minute flyoff flights. Junior flyer Ryan
Jones showed all the old pros how to win in a one round
flyoff with Blake Jensen. Randy Archer flew at the end of
the first flyoff round and made the five minute max with
the other three flyers flying at the start of the round
with no lift. Bob VanNest was the only flyer to max out
flying a Bob White designed model. F1H had eight entries
and four made the flyoff. Ernesto Busnelli secured the win
in the second flyoff round over Dallas Parker. Mike
Roberts had the better air in the third flyoff round over
Guy Menanno. It was unfortunate that Mother Nature sent so
many flyers home Saturday with the windy conditions. Those
who stayed had a great time. Results below.
F1A
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F1A RD 1 RD 2 RD 3 RD 4 RD 5 RD 6 RD 7 FO 1 FO 2 FO 3 FO 4 TOTAL
1 Norm Smith 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 540 351 2871
2 Jim Parker 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 540 300 2820
3 Dean Clark 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 204 2184
4 Ernesto Busnelli 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 53 2033
5 Tom Coussens 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 189 1449
6 Dallas Parker 180 180 180 180 174 180 180 1254
7 Hector Diez 180 180 170 180 180 180 180 1250
8 Mike McKeever 180 180 180 180 180 76 180 1156
9 Ben Coussens 167 180 64 180 180 180 180 1131
10 Jon Davis 180 118 180 180 180 0 180 1018
11 Kyle Jones 71 75 180 180 132 180 180 998
12 Tyler Secor J 180 180 180 180 0 0 0 720
13 Brian VanNest 177 180 180 0 0 0 0 537
14 Craig Cusick 140 180 76 0 0 0 0 396
15 Pierre Brun 180 20 0 0 0 0 0 200
16 Don Zink 180 89 0 0 0 0 0 269
F1B
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F1B RD 1 RD 2 RD 3 RD 4 RD 5 RD 6 RD 7 FO 1 TOTAL
1 Ryan Jones J 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 1560
2 Blake Jensen 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 272 1532
3 Elmer Nelson 180 180 180 180 180 146 180 1226
4 Bob Piserchio 135 180 180 180 180 180 180 1215
5 Larry Norvalll 180 180 180 180 180 180 114 1194
6 Allen Ulm 180 180 180 180 111 180 180 1191
7 John Pratt 123 148 180 180 180 180 180 1171
8 Bob Tymcheck 180 170 86 180 180 164 178 1138
9 George Batuik 180 180 180 180 45 91 180 1036
10 Charlie Jones 180 180 180 159 0 180 0 879
F1C
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F1C RD 1 RD 2 RD 3 RD 4 RD 5 RD 6 RD 7 FO 1 TOTAL
1 Randy Archer 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 1380
2 Daryl Perkins 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 268 1528
3 Mike Roberts 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 267 1527
4 Ron McBurnett 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 162 1422
5 Roger Simpson 180 180 180 180 180 180 174 1254
6 Terry Kerger 180 172 180 180 180 180 180 1252
7 Dave Shirley 180 153 180 180 180 180 180 1233
8 Peter Saulberg 180 145 180 180 180 180 180 1225
9 Guy Menanno 180 180 180 139 180 180 180 1219
10 Douge Joyce 180 180 180 180 126 180 180 1206
F1H
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F1H RD 1 RD 2 RD 3 RD 4 RD 5 FO 1 FO 2 TOTAL
1 Ernesto Busnelli 120 120 120 120 120 180 165 945
2 Dallas Parker 120 120 120 120 120 180 103 883
3 Brian VanNest 120 120 120 120 120 159 759
4 Mike McKeever 120 120 120 120 120 90 690
5 Jon Davis 120 120 120 120 91 571
6 Norm Smith 120 47 120 120 120 527
7 Bob Norton 120 120 120 45 120 525
8 Ben Coussens 37 0 0 0 0 37
F1G
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F1G RD 1 RD 2 RD 3 RD 4 RD 5 TOTAL
1 Bob VanNest 120 120 120 120 120 600
2 Larry Norvall 120 120 98 120 120 578
3 Daniel Protheroe 120 120 120 120 95 575
4 Peter Brocks 120 78 120 120 120 558
5 John Pratt 120 72 120 83 88 483
F1J
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F1J RD 1 RD 2 RD 3 RD 4 RD 5 FO 1 FO 2 FO 3 TOTAL
1 Mike Roberts 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 334 1354
2 Guy Menanno 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 270 1290
3 Tony Roberts 120 120 120 120 120 180 0 780
4 Ray Sahlberg 120 120 120 120 94 574
5 Lynn Pulley 120 120 120 120 0 480
6 Dave Shirley 120 0 0 0 0 120
Sierra Champs Results
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The Sierra Champs was held on 4/6 at Waegell and I have not yet received =
the results for the National Cup scoring. Both phone calls/messages =
have been left and US mail sent requesting same. If someone out there =
can help get the results please get the CD to send same to me ASAP. If =
I do not hear soon the contest results will not be counted.
Thanks,
Bob Mattes
636-447-9580
No More Icarex......
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Got your attention? Well, after I got an email from someone who read an
article I wrote on Icarex, I had to do a bit of investigation. I called
Hand-em-High kites and talked with them on the subject. It seems that
they are no longer "legally" able to use the word Icarex to identify the
covering. She seemed very subdued when questioned on the matter. But,
they still handle the material and now it is the 1/2 oz Ripstop
Polycarbonate fabric. I was told it is exactly the same stuff. Same
stuff, different name.
So, Icarex is not dead, it just has been renamed!
2003 NATS-USOC information
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Roger
Those planning to enter the 2003 Nats will find that the current NFFS web
site www.freeflight.org/ postings offer some useful information. The
following items are posted and printable:
1. Contestant welcome.
2. Contestant Information & Guidelines.
3. AMA & NFFS-USOC entry forms & Master Schedule.
4. Motor Runs & Maxes.
5. Moffett voucher.
6. Volunteer list.
7. Nats Updates. Periodic postings, including comments on rules and
other important stuff.
Mail your Registration & Entry forms early -- NFFS entries to Bob Perkins
and AMA entries to the AMA Competitions Department. Keep in mind the June
16 postmark deadline for entry without late penalty.
See you all in Muncie.
Bob Perkins & John Lorbiecki
Catapult Glider
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I am one of a small but growing group of English flyers who are =
enjoying, and trying to popularize, Catapult Glder in this country. We =
have only had the class for a couiple of years over here and some of us =
have a lot to learn; I wonder if some of my experienced cousins over =
there are prepared to divulge a few secrets and shorten my learning =
time.
I do not think that glider design is the main problem. They seem to =
glide well enough and have managed a couple of seconds and thirds. They =
are of conventional proportions with about 50 percent CG. The most =
comfortable size for me, so far, is 16 inch span with weight around 18 =
grams.
I think the main problem is that I do not know what I am aiming for on =
launch and, if I did know what I wanted, how would I trim to get it? =
It is easy to get a safe launch. I just hold the glider in a near =
vertical right bank with the nose up perhaps 30 degrees and it does one =
turn of a shallow helix rolling out to a smooth glide overhead. Ok, it =
is safe, but it is not going to approach the heights and times reported =
from your side of the pond. So far I have limited my adjustments to =
slight left rudder and slight wash in on the left (port) wing. Both =
done by Gurney strips. If I try to reduce the bank angle or increase =
the verttical angle the transition is rubbish.
So what should I be looking for in bank angle, vertical angle, no of =
turns of the spiral, angle to the wind and so on? (I supose you do fly =
right left if right handed!). I find it difficult to see what angles I =
am using at launch. Would it be sensible to get a friend to watch your =
launches and tell you if you are being consistent? Do you record the =
launch pattern for each glider or do you force all your gliders to the =
same launch pattern?
Or have I missed the very essence of flying catapult glider altogether? =
Your help would be appreciated.
Best regards
John Barker - England
Western FAI Challenge Canceled
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Due to both a personal conflict and the inability to find a suitable
alternate date, the Western FAI Challeng scheduled for August 30 & 31st
is canceled. I regret this decision and hope Northwest Flyers will
attend the Tangent Classic FAI meet August 22 & 23 in Oregon.
Sorry
Mike Roberts CD
NorCal F1A flyoff
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The NorCal F1A flyoff, postponed due to adverse conditions at the end of the
contest in Sacramento, was decided at The Big Al over Memorial Day weekend.
The conditions were breezy around the Sunday 7 AM flyoff. And the winners are:
Pierre Brun 261 seconds
Brian Van Nest 240 seconds
Jim Parker 201 seconds
Martyn Cowley DNF
Nicely flown in very tricky conditions. Martyn had left the previous day
when the Big Al was postponed. Sunday got better after the flyoff but that is
"The Big Al Story" and for another to tell. Mike McKeever
Skyscrapers International Challenge
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Skyscraper Challenge Report (May 25-26) by Aram Schlosberg
The weather Cassandras forecasting high winds and rain scared off some
flyers. But mother nature was much kinder to those who made it, with a
overcast Saturday with some drizzle and light fog and moderate wind.
Sunday was just spectacular, overcast, starting off with very light
morning winds followed by a long mid-day dead calm period. Due to the a
week's precipitation the field was wet, drenching may socks and
sneakers.
The surrounding corn field had just been planted, extending the field to
the far trees on the surrounding higher land.
The contest highlight was the F1B flyoff. In the first flyoff, John Clapp
flew early, but Jim Bradley, who had a motor blow, and Bob Biedron got
better air launching later. The 7 minute flyoff (a first ever in
Wawayanda) was flown from the end of the field. Bob got off to a
clean max while Jim had another motor blow and his second model's VIT
line did not disconnect, causing a dive that clocked at 13 seconds.
Taylor
Gunder was the highest scoring junior, dropping 20 seconds.
Andrei Kirilinko, the only F1C flier, clocked a perfect score.
There was drama in the last round for F1A and F1G. In F1A, Austin Gunder,
with a perfect score got into a time pressure on the last round/second
attempt and sub-maxed for third place. Omer Erguner maxed-out for first
place. Aram DTed late in the fifth round and came in fourth. Ben Thompson
was the highest scoring junior, placing 5th. Andrew Barron had a myriad of
technical problems in F1A.
In F1G, Larry Pelatowski maxed-out while John Clapp DTed early spoiling
an otherwise perfect score and putting him in a tie for third, resolved by
a flyoff with Bob Hatschek.
Dave Acton CDed the AMA events and was responsible for the financial
side as well as the first place awards. The three top flyers and the leading junior
in each event were awarded a certificate, portraying an Indian flying a glider,
drawn by the Canadian artist Mark Komza. Dick Ivers hit the jackpot,
walking away with two firsts and a second.
F1G
1. Larry Pelatowski 120 120 120 120 120 = 600
2. Dick Ivers 120 120 109 120 120 = 589
3. John Clapp 120 120 120 120 88 = 568 + 133
4. Bob Hatschek 104 104 120 120 120 = 568 + 92
5. Don Rousseau 120 111 120 83 74 = 508
Full scores 4 3 2 2 1
F1H
1. Dick Ivers 95 101 120 85 120 = 521
2. Larry Pelatowski 120 65 64 85 108 = 442
3. Jean Pailet 51 104 61 50 120 = 386
4. Ben Thompson (J) 42 73 42 52 32 = 241
Full scores 1 0
F1J
1. Austin Gunder 69 120 96 120 120 = 525
2. Tom Kerr 20 --- = 20
3. Amanda Barr (J) 10 = 10
F1A (180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180)
1. Omer Erguner 180 180 180+ 7 180 180 180 180 = 1267
2. Tzvetan Tzvetkov 180 180 170+ 180 180 180 180 = 1250
3. Austin Gunder 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 147 = 1227
4. Aram Schlosberg 180 180 180+60 180 127 180 180 = 1207
5. Ben Thompson (J)180 165 180 180 125 180 80 = 1090
6. Peter Barron (J) 36 146 180+60 180 173 151 180 = 1046
7. Jonah Coste (J) 38 164 180 180 153 180 146 = 1041
8. Ton Jones 100 110 177 180 177 173 82 = 999
9. Josh Revkin (J) 180 16 180 180 92 115 117 = 880
10. Dennis Phelan 180 140 110 149 66 0 165 = 810
11. Andrew Barron 148 82 99 65 46 94 180 = 714
12. Kay Fags 82 106 =
= 188
Full scores 7 4 2 2 1 1 =
0
F1B
1. Bob Biedron 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 300 420 = 2040
2. Jim Bradley 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 300 13 = 1663
3. John Clapp 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 239 = 1559
4. Jerry McGlashan 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 DNF = 1320
5. Taylor Gunder(J) 180 180 180+60 180 180 160 180 = 1240
6. Sera Radziunus(J) 180 180 180+35 154 160 154 180 = 1208
7. David Ellis 83 180 180 180 142 180 180 = 1125
8. Nathan Coste (J) 81 100 172 106 145 179 76 = 859
Full scores 6 6 5 5 5 4 =
4
F1C
1. Andrei Kirinko 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 = 1320
HLG
1. Thomas Jones 43 48 63 42 73 80 = 216
2. Ed Pelatowski 53 20 67 93 7 26 = 213
3. Larry Pelatowski 45 7 99 26 67 37 = 211
4. Peter Barron (S) 9 14 5 24 30 21 = 75
5. Jean Pailet 5 3 22 27 25 13 = 74
6. Matt Rousseau (J) 3 3 18 11 19 11 = 48
7. Michelle Barron(J) 4 5 2 4 4 5 = 14
Catapult Glider
1. Thomas Jones 38 41 29 72 120 60 = 252
2. Dennis Phelan 59 59 49 50 60 47 = 178
3. Ed Pelatowski 37 73 43 30 52 8 = 168
4. Larry Pelatowski 51 52 32 46 36 43 = 149
5. Jean Pailet 36 26 28 39 38 16 = 113
6. Al Mkitarian 2 35 29 = 66
6. Timothy Barron(J) 22 21 20 19 16 23 = 66
8. Michelle Barron(J) 7 7 6 6 6 6 = 20
Mulvihill (120 180 240)
1. Red Laffler 120 176 196 = 491
2. Nat Coste (J) 120 180 143 = 443
3. Andrew Barron 120 150 172 = 342
4. Timothy Barron (J) 54 68 48 = 170
5. Michelle Barron(J) 60 39 36 = 135
6. Julie Barron (J) 32 34 39 = 105
Dawn Unlimited
1. Dave Acton 265
2. Red Laffler 244
3. Nat Coste (J) 108
4. Don Rousseau 84
P-30
1. Dick Ivers 120 120 111 = 351
2. Larry Pelatowski 120 86 120 = 326
3. Bob Hatschek 78 104 120 = 302
4. Timothy Barron (J) 62 120 117 = 299
5. Al Mkitarian 104 89 93 = 295
6. Bill Collish 120 91 82 = 293
7. Matt Rousseau (J) 101 71 114 = 286
8. T. Tousseau (J) 104 97 57 = 258
9. Don Rousseau 98 91 59 = 248
10. Michelle Barron(J) 105 110 1 = 216
11. Red Laffler 120 58 1 = 178
ABC Classic
1. Alan Abriss 90 120 0 = 210
A Gas
1. Jean Pailet 120 120 120 = 360
Pee Wee 30
1. Michael Cook 15/120 15/120 16/96
600 800 600 = 2200
2. Alan Abriss 15/90 15/120 15/89
600 800 593 = 1993
ZIT Etimer from Slovakia
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Hello Roger,
In current MA issue[July 2003] in Modeler's Mall[page 142]is an electric
timer, very light and small, 'that can be used for DTing FF competition
models.', using an 'electric match'[what is that?].
The info sez: 'Used by FAI Spacemodeling competitors around the world.'
Timer A is only 2.3gms with 1.5v cell battery, and sells for $35.
There are 2 'accuracy' levels listed...not exactly sure what that means,
but I sent an email with queries tonight.
You will find his website at: www.zitdt.com
This might be worth a good long look for all SEN readers!
Ciao,
Leeper
Posting of FAI F1C and FF items for sale
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Please post the following:
I have begun to itemize my fathers FF items from his estate. There is a
variety of F1C related supplies. There are new selig timers (fan type), nelson
engines, titanium folder hubs, aluminum sheet for wing skins, contest balsa,
Kevlar fabric, a long tapered ground steel fuselage mandrel,
aluminum model box, plus many other items. I am looking for someone
to purchase all the items. I can
provide a detailed list of the items along with the asking price.
I have one Archterberg 100 inch 6 panel wing with stab for sale. Wing and
stab are as he had shipped them to me. I also have 1 wing wire and dihedral
connectors. I am asking $550 for the wing and stab, includes shipping.
Please respond to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and put "SCAT" in subject listing.
Thanks, Glenn Anderson
Voros Jeno Contest ?
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Does anyone have any info on the Voros Jeno contest.
I have had no reply from the organisers E mail address.
thanks
David Ackery
New Zealand
World cup " SREM CUP "
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Results from World cup " SREM CUP " F1A,B,C :
http://solair.eunet.yu/~raletic/
Best regards Milos Raletic
WW1 Plans
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I get a kick out of reading your stuff.
I am a plans dealer, WW-I only.
Are there any in your group that work with scale. I would love to have some
folks to bounce Ideas off
thanks
smiley
Thanks
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Thanks to Walt Ghio and the anonynous person who left money
in my car last weekend for their donations in support of SEN.
.................
Roger Morrell
