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News and Reports 2003
SCAT Electronic News 8 June 2003 issue 802
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SCAT Mid Summer Madness Contest - SweepetteLee
Voros Jena - Farkas
Mystery engine - Gregorie
Fwd: [pmac] Sal Fruciano Memorial
MMM t-shirts - Deloach
Ralph (Red) Costlow
Small stabs for F1C. - Boutillier
Tangent Classic - Roberts and RonnyMac
Cyclon PC6 - new offer !
Rutan Spaceship DT - H
catapult glider - John - Mosely
Looking for Address of Eduardo Buchar, flyer F1A from Argentina
wind rose plot - Deloach
America's Cup Results so far
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SCAT Mid Summer Madness Contest
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Author : sweepettelee-
Hi Roger,
This is to remind all fliers that on June 21-22 at Lost Hills we are
holding the SCAT Mid-Summer Madness FAI contest.
F1G,H,J runs Sat, from 5-7:30PM, no rounds, with FO Sun morning.
F1A,B,C has first 3 rds on Sat, starting at 5:30PM, 45 min ea/180s maxes.
Then on Sun, starting at 6:30AM the Tie-breaker/Champagne FO flights
will be held, with 10 min windows and 10 min gaps to each event.
Rd 4 will be from 7:30-8:15AM with extended maxes[A=240s, B&C=300s],
then the last 3 rds will be 180s maxes, like the first 3 rds.
Trophy presentation at 10:45AM...
then you get to go home...or fly some more, if you need more fun!
CD is Hector Diez[really Susana]
Cost: A fiver for the Minis and a measly 10-spot for ABC entries,
with all profits to be donated to our FAI Team Fund.
questions? Call Hector at a new no: 805-238-3538
Lee Hines, Asst CD
Voros Jena
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Author : aljolie-
Hello David,
Just arrived from Hungary. Voros Jeno memorial will be held on August 2nd.
and 3rd. Will send you the information regarding registration.
Best regards,
Leslie Farkas
Mystery engine
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Author : martin-
I was recently asked by Chuck Dorsett if I knew anything about an F1J
engine whose only identifying mark is a large F on the left side
transfer passage. It's not an engine I recognize, so I've put what
Chuck and I know, including pictures, on my web site at:
http://www.gregorie.demon.co.uk/freeflight/f1j/mystery/mystery.html
If you recognize this engine and can add anything about who made it,
price, availability, contacts, operation, etc, etc please either e-
mail me at:
martin-At-gregorie.demon.co.uk
with the details or tell Mr SCAT's excellent electronic newsletter
what you know.
Thermals,
Martin Gregorie
Fwd: [pmac] Sal Fruciano Memorial
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Author : hermanna-
Roger,
Got this message re Sal Fruciano's Memorial June 8 at the Eloy field.
Am currently planning on driving over and may have room for a co-driver.
Note that the other half of the ashes are to be scattered at Lost Hills in
conjunction with an FAI event, possibly MaxMen.
H hermanna-
>From: Spadclan2-
>Reply-To: pmac-At-yahoogroups.com
>To: pmac-At-yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [pmac] Sal Fruciano Memorial
>Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:15:55 EDT
>
>The Fruciano family will hold a memorial service in honor of Sal at the
>Eloy
>flying field this coming Sunday morning. The agenda is as follows:
>
> Meet on the field at 9:00 AM
> The Fruciano family will share their memories of their Father
> Others will then have an opportunity to add their thoughts
> Half of Sal's ashes will then be spread on the field
> The cermony will then end with a mass launch of airplanes.
>
>I plan to be there earlier than 9:00 to pick an area to set up and do a
>little early morning test flying with my wakefield.
>
>Dress as appropriate for a hot day of flying.
>
>Please let anyone know that you are aware of may not be of this email
>system.
>We've attempted to call everyone by phone, as well.
>
>Call me if you have any questions.
>
>Elmer
>
MMM t-shirts
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Author : ddeloach-
Dear Free Flight friends,
I am about to place the order for some unique t-shirts commemorating the
Magnificent Mountain Men's 2003 flying season. The design features some
great old FF artwork and includes our contest schedule for the year. This
will be a great momento of the year's activities. The design is a two color
affair, blue and red ink (contact me at ddeloach-At-adelphia.net if you would
an e-mailed scan of the design).
The shirts will be white, short-sleeved, chest pocket on front, with screen
printing on the back. The price is $12 each plus $3 for shipping if you
aren't in Colorado.
Please state number of shirts, size, (XXL add $1; XXXL add $2) and shipping
address. The deadline for receipt of your order is Friday, June 13th. Shirts
will be ready for pickup at the June 20-21 monthly or the July 5-6 FAI
annual.
Please pass the word to flyers not on email who may be interested in a
shirt.
Please make checks payable to Don DeLoach. 100% of proceeds will be applied
to the MMM field lease fund.
Thanks and Thermals,
Don DeLoach
815 N Cedar
Colo Spgs, CO 80903
ddeloach-At-adelphia.net
719-578-1197
Ralph (Red) Costlow
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Author : AALmps-
We're looking for anyone who may have known/known about Ralph (Red) Costlow.
A friend, Bob Christ, has been asked to chase info by a guy who bought the
contents of a storage locker rented by Red. Inside the locker was a bunch of
modeling items plus a scrapbook of photos and other memorabilia of Red's
adventures with free flight models, including PAALoad, at the '47 Nationals in
Minnesota. Red died recently in Phoenix and no one that I've talked to here, so
far, seems to have any info. He was about 20 yrs old in '47.
The custodian of the scrapbook wishes to include material from the scrapbook
in a book that he is writing, saying that Red loved model airplanes to the
end. He quotes Mark Twain,
"We should endeavor to live our lives that when we come to pass, even the
undertaker is sad."
I like that!
Please send any responses to Bob C:
azpropnut-At-aol.com
Thanks!! / AL
Small stabs for F1C.
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Author : ab.boutillier-
Last week-end I trimmed my new F1C. It has a 100 inches wing span,
a taiplane of 4.37 sq.dm (67.7 sq.in) with a moment arm between wing
T.E and stab L.E of 990mm (39 in.), more accurately: 1002mm (39.45 in.)
between mean average chords of wing and tail.
Cof G at 62.2% of mean average chord.
I first set the decalage for climb at 0deg. (tail bottom line parallel to
wing bottom line) as usual for my models with a 5sq.dm (77.5 sq.in.)
I was much surprised to be obliged to add a tremendous amount of
''down'' tailplane, the final trimming being OK with a neatly negative
decalage, probably several degrees, not yet measured.
Does any F1C builder/flyer have experimented the same thing?
Can it be the result of the combination of a rather small tailplane with
a not long enough moment arm? And large wingspan?
Any advice would be welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Bernard Boutillier
ab.boutillier-At-libertysurf.fr
Tangent Classic
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Author : alkiview-
The third annual Tangent Classic FAI meet will be held August 22nd (F1
ABC) and August 23rd (F1 GHJ) at Parkers Field south of Albany Oregon.
Most flyers stay in Albany which is about 10 miles north of the field
and although Albany has many motels from which to choose, many of us
stay at the Relax Inn on the south end of the Albany airport. The Relax
Inn is reasonably clean and roomy with a nice pool and next door to
Pierre's favorite Chinese Restaurant with easy I 5 on and off. They
quoted me a $44 a night rate and I told them there may be more coming so
if you are coming please join us for a family style Chinese dinner with
views of the airport and Bruce Augustus's Bonanza as well as other
aircraft. You can pull up the Albany yellow pages for all the motels;
the Relax Inns phone is 541-926-0170.
The FAI contest is held in conjunction with the Northwest Free Flight
Champs on the 23rd and 24th with all the AMA and Nostalgia events so if
you are also looking for National Cup points bring all your airplanes.
Ron Mc B and I hope to see you there and remember there will be a BBQ at
the field on Saturday evening put on by the wonderful folks of the
Willamette Valley Moderers Club.
thermals
Ron McBurnett & Mike Roberts CD's
Cyclon PC6 - new offer !
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Author : cyclon-At-mail.nsk.ru
Cyclon PC6 - new offer !
New price 100$ for june only !
Best regards,
Alexander Kalmykov
pr.Dzerjinskogo 2-67
Novosibirsk 630112
Russia
www.cyclonengines.narod.ru/
Phone/Fax : +7 3832 773771
Phone/Fax : +7 3832 173278
Rutan Spaceship DT
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Author : hermanna-
Roger,
This Burt Rutan spaceship has a hinged wing for reentry. Much less critical
to reentry attitude than traditional.
Another FF influence is the outrigger stab setup similar to those featured
in a 1960's Scatter.
With each pound worth $1000's it would appear to be a natural application
for Black Majik timer to actuate the DT from 60mi altitude.
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/17/2
catapult glider - John
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Author : kevfreeflight-
John
You know me anyway so thats the introductions covered and i would be
interested in any comments that you may get in respect of your questions on
SCAT. If you want someone to watch your launches, then I have a digital
camera that is all singing and dancing and can video you and watch and
delete and try again. Either that or photo and record each launch - then
email the photos to you. This way you can analyse the launch pattern whilst
I photo the stance and angle etc.
I am about to go south next weekend and whilst away in Cornwall, am going to
have some fun in the evenings building some Swedish clg designs that
impressed me seriously at the Nats. I have plans and you are welcome to
them as any of the nigh on 300 that I currently have for hlg and clg.
Please dont hesitate to ask.
The nats were incredible for me - fair enough I did not do too well, but I
had the BEST time ever and have never laughed so much or enjoyed the company
to the extent I did and this more than made up for my poor efforts all
weekend. heck it was even worth the sun burn!
Best wishes as always to you.
In thermals and hlg heaven.
Kev
Looking for Address of Eduardo Buchar, flyer F1A from Argentina
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Author : kosta49-At-mail.ru
Dear colleagues!
I would like to ask your help.
Address of Eduardo Buchar, flyer F1A from Argentina is necessary for me.
I direct letters to the address specified by him, but the mail server
informs me, that the letter is not received by the addressee.
Probably, it occurs because of a mistake in the address.
My address: Aleksandr Pugachenko kosta49-At-mail.ru
I thank, Aleksandr Pugachenko.
wind rose plot
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Author : ddeloach-
Fellow FFers
I realize I am proabably not the first to discover this site, but I though
I'd pass it along
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/climate/windrose.htm
It is a national climate web page for all 50 states. Of interest to us
modelers are the "wind rose" circular plots. They graph historical date
from1961-1990 that show 30 year average wind speed and the direction from
which it blows, for each month. The graphs also list the percentage of time
the winds are "calm" at a measuring station. It is interesting to see
whether or not the data support our anecdotal conclusions about the calmest
or windiest months in a particluar FF locale. Also it is easy to see which
sites are most consistent regarding prevailing wind direction
Thermals
Don DeLoach
MMM, Coloradio
America Cup results - with individual placings
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Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 18 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 27 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 20 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT 6 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 7 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF 11 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
FFA 5 FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 12 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 16 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
F1A
1 Parker, Jim 104 SWR-2 MM-1 NCA-3* FFA-1 BAl-2
2 Parker, Dallas (Jr) 55 SWR-4 MM-2 SCA-4
2 McKever, Mike 55 SWR-1 SCA-2
4 Tzvetkov,Tzvetan 50 EFF-1 Sky-2
5 Barron, Andrew 45 SCA-1 FFA-3
6 Schlosberg, Aram 35 EFF-2 Sky-4
7 Erguner, Omer 34 NCA-5 Sky-1
7 Coussens, Tom 34 SWR-5 MM-4 BAl-5
9 Sifleet, Bob 32 MM-3 EFF-4
10 Cowley, Martyn 31 MM-5 SCA-5 NCA-4
11 Smith,Norm 29 BAl-1
12 Spence, Steve 26 SCT-1
12 Brun, Pierre 26 NCA-1
14 Thomson, Ben(Jr) 25 EFF-3 Sky-5
15 Gunder, Austin (Jr) 23 FFA-5 Sky-3
16 Fedor, Mike 21 SCT-2
16 VanNest, Brian 21 NCA-2
18 Diez, Hector 20 SWR-3
18 Allnutt, Peter 20 SCA-3
18 Barron, Peter (Jr) 20 FFA-2
21 Clark, Dean 19 BAl-3
22 Sheffer, Jackie 16 SCT-3
23 Busnelli, Ernesto 14 BAl-4
24 Shepard, Jesse 11 SCT-4
25 Markos, Chuck 10 FFA-4
26 Reeve, Mike 6 SCT-5
27 Hernandez, Ron 5 NCA-6
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 18 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 36 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 18 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT 4 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 9 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF 9 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
FFA 7 FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 8 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 10 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
F1B
1 Rohrke, Rich 67 SWR-1 SCA-1 NCA-4
2 Wood, Dick 58 SCT-1 NCA-3 FFA-3
3 Jensen, Blake 47 SCA-2 BAl-2
4 Biedron, Bob 41 MM-3 FFA-2
5 Booth, Bill 40 SWR-2 MM-4
6 Jones, Ryan(Jr) 38 FFA-4 BAl-1
7 Guinder, Taylor(Jr) 33 EFF-1 Sky-5
7 Biedron, Bob 33 EFF-5 Sky-1
9 Clapp, John 31 SWR-4 Sky-3
10 Ghio, Walt 30 MM-1
11 Andriukov, Alex 27 NCA-1
12 Simon, Greg 26 FFA-1
13 Luken, Jim 25 MM-2
14 Norvall, Larry 22 SCA-4 BAl-5
14 Radziunas, Sarah(Jr) 22 EFF-2
14 Batiuk, George 22 NCA-2
17 Bradley, Jim 21 Sky-2
18 Schroedter, George 20 SWR-3
18 Scheiman, Philip(Jr) 20 SCA-3
18 OReilly, Jim 20 SCT-2
21 Jones, Thomas* 17 EFF-3
21 Nelso, Elmer 17 BAl-3
23 Williamson, Ed 15 SCT-3
24 Blom, Fred 12 EFF-4
24 Piserchio, Bob 12 BAl-4
26 McGlashan, Jerry 11 Sky-4
27 Crowley, Paul 10 SWR-5
27 Tymchek, Bob 10 MM-5
27 Morrell, Roger 10 SCA-5
27 Pearce, Fred 10 SCT-4
31 Sessums, John 7 NCA-4
32 Shailor, Bill 6 FFA-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 8 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 26 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 12 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT 3 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 4 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF 1 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
FFA 1 FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 1 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 10 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
F1C
1 Archer, Randy 78 SWR-1 MM-2 BAl-1
2 Kirilenko, Andrei 50 EFF-1 Sky-1
3 Poti, Norm 45 MM-3 FFA-1
4 Mennano, Guy 39 SWR-4 SCA-1
5 Chesson, Don 36 SWR-2 MM-4
6 Roberts, Mike 35 SCA-3 BAl-3
7 Perkins, Daryl 32 MM-5 BAl-2
8 Parker, Faust 31 SWR-3 SCT-3
9 Keck, Ed 30 MM-1
10 Spence, Henry 25 SCT-1
10 Shirley, Dave 25 NCA-1
12 Happersett, Ken 23 SCA-2
13 Joyce, Doug 21 SWR-5 NCA-4
14 Simpson, Reid 20 SCT-2
14 Halliday, Dave 20 NCA-2
14 Oliver, Ken 20 NCA-2
17 Warren, John 13 SCA-4
18 Mc Burnett, Ron 12 BAl-4
19 Kerger, Terry 8 SCA-5
20 Simpson, Roger 7 BAl-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 23 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 23 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 17 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT 5 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 4 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF 10 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
FFA 4 FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 5 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 5 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
F1G
1 Wood, Dick 64 SCA-3 SCT-1 NCA-4* FFA-2
2 Brocks, Peter 54 SWR-4 SCA-1 BAl-4
3 Ivers, Rich 47 EFF-1 Sky-2
4 Cooney, Ralph 40 SWR-2 MM-4
5 Booth, Bill 39 MM-2 SCA-4
6 O Reilly, Jim 35 SWR-3 SCT-3
7 Hatschek, Bob 32 EFF-2 Sky-4
7 Clapp, John 32 EFF-3 Sky-3
9 Peterson. Alan 30 SWR-1
9 Schroedter, George 30 MM-1
11 Davis, Bill 25 NCA-1
11 Pelatowski, Larry 25 Sky-1
11 Konefes, Ed 25 FFA-1
11 VanNest, Bob 25 BAl-1
15 Tymchek, Bob 24 SCA-2
16 Cole, Hank 20 MM-3
16 Vanlandingham, Ed 20 SCT-2
16 Emery, Jack 20 NCA-2
16 Norvall, Larry 20 BAl-2
20 Davis, Mike 15 NCA-3
20 Markos, Chuck 15 FFA-3
20 Poteroe, Dan 15 BAl-3
23 Ioeger, Tom 12 EFF-4
24 Crowley, Paul 10 SWR-5
24 Sessums, John 10 MM-5
24 Williamson, Ed 10 SCT-4
24 Clowes, George 10 FFA-4
28 Scheiman, Philip(Jr) 9 SCA-5
29 Coeyman, Charlie 7 EFF-5
30 O Dwyer, John 5 SCT-5
30 Rousseau, Don 5 Sky-5
30 Pratt, John 5 BAl-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 10 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 12 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 8 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT -x- Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 6 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF 6 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
FFA -X- FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 4 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 8 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
F1H
1 VanNest, Brian 87 SWR-2 MM-2 SCA-3 NCA-1 BAl-3*
2 McKever, Mike 82 SWR-4 MM-1 SCA-2 NCA-2 BAl-4*
3 Parker, Dallas (Jr) 74 SWR-1 SCA-1 BAl-2
4 Ivers, Rich 41 EFF-3 Sky-1
5 Busnelli, Ernesto 37 SCA-4 BAl-1
6 Sifleet, Bob 26 EFF-1
7 Cowley,Martyn 25 SWR-5 MM-3
8 Pelatowski, Ed 21 EFF-2
8 Thomson, Ben(Jr) 21 EFF-4 Sky-4
8 Pailet, Jean 21 EFF-5 Sky-3
11 Pelatowski, Larry 20 Sky-2
12 Archer, Ryan 17 SWR-3
12 Norton, Bob 17 SCA-5 NCA-4
14 Smith, Norm 16 NCA-3
15 Coussens, Ben (Jr) 13 MM-4
16 Brun, Pierre 8 MM-5
17 Hernandez, Ron 6 NCA-5
17 Davis, Jon 6 BAl-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 5 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 13 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 8 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT 9 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 6 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF 5 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
FFA 4 FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 3 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 6 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
F1J
1 Gunder, Austin (Jr) 75 EFF-1 FFA-1 Sky-1
2 Parker, Faust 55 SWR-1 MM-5 SCT-2
2 Shirley, David 55 MM-2 SCA-5 NCA-1
4 Warren, John 46 SWR-2 SCA-1
5 Roberts, Mike 44 MM-3 SCA-3* BAl-1
6 Sheffer, Jackie 42 SWR-3 SCT-1
6 Mennano, Guy 42 SWR-4 SCA-4 BAl-2
8 Haught, Jim 36 NCA-3 FFA-2
9 Robertson, Tony 32 SWR-5 NCA-4 BAl-3
10 Kerr, Tom 30 EFF-4 Sky-2
11 Servaites, Bucky 28 MM-1
12 Carroll, Ed 21 SCA-2
12 Lynch, Bill 21 NCA-2
14 Berry, Dan 20 EFF-2
14 Barr Amanda (jr) 20 EFF-5 Sky-3
16 Mace, Marvin 17 SCT-3
17 Pailet, Jean 15 EFF-3
17 Lorbiecki, John (Jr) 15 FFA-3
19 Poti, Norm 13 MM-4
20 Hanford, Robert 12 SCT-4
20 Pulley, Lynn 12 NCA-5 BAl-5
22 Salberg, Ray 11 BAl-4
23 Marsh, Jack 10 FFA-4
24 Snyder, Russ 7 SCT-5
..............
Roger Morrell
