SEN 686 - 27 Mar 2002
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SCAT Electronic News 27 March 2002 issue 686 - CIAM scoop
Table of Contents
CIAM meeting results - Tracy
Huron Cup 2002 - McGlashan
Gerry Ritz - Skykieng and SweepetteLee
Polyester tissue - Salzer
EuroChamps Web Site - Zengeller
nostalgia engines - Brooks
California Schedule - Parker
Re: FAI rules 2002 - Montigneaux
Re: FAI rules 2002 - Ackery
CIAM meeting results
The FAI CIAM meeting went off with its normal and unique precision (22,
23 March Lausanne, Switzerland). The FF Technical subcommittee
accomplished its intended goals and herein is a brief collection of the
deliberation results (14 FF Tech Com people were involved in these
1) There were several proposals to be voted on by each subcommittee
involving CIAM Bureau operations which included; meeting schedules, team
fees, organizational rules, prize medals and trophies (fines levied on
those who fail to return perpetual trophies to various championship
competitions). There was also consideration for a CIAM media consultant
and subcommittee membership (of various subcoms - to be published by 1
May on FAI website). These items were approved by the FF Subcom
unanimously and accepted by the CIAM Bureau.
2) The F1 proposal by France to define the size of towline pennants for
F1A and F1G - 2.5 sq dm with a smallest side of at least 5 cm - passed
unanimously and was accepted by the Bureau. This rule takes effect on 1
Jan 2003 and will be enforced at the Jr WCs 2002 as a local rule.
3) The French proposal to include Juniors in the various events (F1a and
F1E) for World Cup competition was passed unanimously by the
subcommittee and accepted by the Bureau.
4) The Austria proposals for F1K (CO2) were all passed unanimously.
5) Because F1J has had a dearth of participation from the junior
community (only 4 nations competed in the recent continental
championships) there was a Bureau concern for the viability of the event
as an entry level for juniors. The FF Technical subcommittee was tasked
to define a new event that would be less demanding and more accessible
to juniors than F1J (which has evolved to a 1/2 A powered F1C type
"ultra" model). F1J is to be kept as a senior event with its rules
The new event - F1P - will include a maximum dimension to the wing span
(1.5m) and a minimum wing area (26 dm2). The minimum weight will be
250g. The engine is 1 cc with a 10 sec run using a direct drive
propeller and no brake. 7 flights with a 3 min maximum is the flight
requirement with one change in incidence allowed (in adition to DT
function) obviating a bunt capability.
F1P is a provisional class and shall be recognized as a new category on
1 January 2003. It will be at the Jr WCs in 2004. The Bureau was
encouraged to have the event at the European Champs in 2003 to preclude
another small entry field.
The Bureau passed this provisional class with 19 + , 0- , 0 abstentions,
and 0 not voting.
6) Proposals not on the agenda but discussed by the FF Subcom were:
a) USA - Allow F1B to wind before the start of flyoff rounds. There
was mixed reaction to this proposal. It was not obvious that it would
have passed if there had been a vote taken. Many felt that the pressure
of winding during the round (and the tactics therein) was an integral
facet of the event.
b) France - Ban gear reductors on F1C engine propeller drives. There
was very little support shown for this proposal. It was identified that
there were already 3 sources for the equipment (2 more than for F1B
rubber) and in spite the moderate expense (variable pitch F1B hubs have
about the same cost), it was not generally conceded that the geared
engines would have a direct, deleterious effect on F1C participation.
7) As a last minute development, the French have offered and won the bid
to host the 2004 Junior World FF Championships for F1A, F1B, and F1P at
Moncontour du Poitou, France.
Daniel J. Tracy
US FAI FF Team Selection Committee, District XI
[Dan - or other wise person,
I am confused about the process surrounding F1P. - Not F1P
as the idea may indeeed be a good one. But how can a new concept such
as this be introduced at the meeting with out prior notification.
It seems that it would be difficult for delegates to vote on this
because they mught not have got direction from their contituents ?]
Huron Cup 2002
The Toronto FAI Group
Presents the Second Annual
Huron Cup for FAI Free Flight
A World Cup and America's Cup Competition
Dates: Saturday, July 13 and Sunday, July 14, 2002
Place: CFB Borden, Angus, Ontario
Events: F1A, F1B, F1C, F1G, F1H, F1J
Entry fees: FAI events $20 Open Rubber $10
CD Jerry McGlashan
R. R. 2, 6 Harvest Dr., Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ont. L0S 1J0
Phone: (905) 468-1829 Fax: (905) 468-5098
Saturday, July 13
F1G F1H F1JRound 1 10 a.m.-11 a.m.2 minute maxes
Round 2 11 a.m.-12 noon
Round 3 12 noon-1 p.m.
Round 4 1 p.m.-2 p.m.
Round 5 2 p.m.-3 p.m.
Fly-offs 3:30 p.m. -
F1A F1B F1C Round 1 5 p.m.-6 p.m.3 minute maxes
Round 2 6 p.m.-7 p.m.
Round 3 7 p.m.-8 p.m.
Sunday, July 14
Special Event1 unlimited open rubber flight at 7 a.m. with a 10 min. wind=
for the Dave Andrew Memorial Trophy.
F1C Round 4 8 a.m.-9 a.m.extended max
Round 5 9 a.m.-10 a.m.3 minute maxes
Round 6 10 a.m.-11 a.m.
Round 7 11 a.m.-12 noon
Fly-offs To be determined by necessity and weather conditions.
If you need a map and a motel list, please let me know and I'll send them
Hi, Lee. Saw your inquiry about Ritz. Sorry I don't have what you need in
the way of the original article, but it so happens I have a picture of him
that we used in the NFFS Digest. A nice shot of Gerry holding his World
Championship winning model, The Continental, taken at possibly his last
contest appearance ....the ' 70 Finals in Albuquerque. I should send it to
you for inspiration. More fitting to be on your wall than on mine.
He was quite a guy. Had a long discussion with him at Albuquerque over the
comparative merits of Folders and Flappers. He got past my bullheadedness
and won me over. Unfortunately, on all accounts,he killed himself soon
afterwards in a freak Ultralight crash...As I always say: if God intended us
to fly he wouldn't have given us model airplanes.
Re: Gerry Ritz
Yes Bill, He was quite a guy.
I only had the opportunity to meet and speak with him once...it was
@ Lakehurst in '57, the day I set the 1:17.2 IHLG world record @
We chatted for an hour after I did my officials (since I was so excited
and running on pure adrenal fluid, I kept throwing!) & I never saw
him again. I recall he was very interesting to speak with.
Naturally I was extremely pleased for him & the USA when he won
two years later in Belgium.
Lee Campbell just told me the original Continental is restored &
resides in the AMA museum.
For some 30 years now I have been selling polyester tissue to my
model-building friends all over the world.
Some years ago I gave the US market to Sal Fruciano, who created the
"Polyspan" trade name.
Now I will stop also the sales to the rest of the world; in my place, Mike
Woodhouse of Great Britain will be the future distributor. I thank all of my
previous customers and hope that it will not be inconvenient fro them to
transfer their trust to him at http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk , or
Thanks again to all of you
Klaus W. Salzer
[Wot ! Salzer paper is no more !]
EuroChamps Web Site
(Not only) For Europeans:
the official web-site of the
FF European Championships in Hungary 2002
Every European FAI members should got
the username and password for the on-line entry there.
I'm considering building something for Nostalgia FF, but I don't have any =
useable engines, just a worn out Green Head .23 and a sickly ED racer. So =
I'm wondering if there is anyone with anything that's still competitive =
and Nos. legal in the A, B, and C classes that they'd be willing to part =
with for reasonable $$.
Jim (tired of chasing Mulvi's through the corn) Brooks
I assume that left hand rotation is also a requirement ?]
Is there available somewhere on the net, a CUFFMAC schedule? Several of
us on the east side of the Rockies would like to make California contests,
but we must be able to plan ahead. Can anyone help?
[maybe - we're working on it]
Re: FAI rules 2002
I have just read your note in the SCAT Electronic Newsletter.
Most probably you do not have the necessary programmes to read the rule
documents. Have you followed the instructions on the page ?
The CIAM rules are published as Acrobat PDF files. The files are compressed
as ZIP archives (this helps to reduce the size of the document to download,
and therefore the download time, and also allows to compile into one file
several documents, easing the process of retrieving them).
You need a programme such as Winzip to open the ZIP file. You can download
it at http://www.winzip.com . Once you have uncompressed the ZIP file, you
need Adobe Acrobat (available for both Mac and PC) to read the documents.
Acrobat can be downloaded for free at
Have a nice day.
FAI Assistant Secretary General
Re: FAI rules 2002
FAI documents come as zipped up PDF documents.
So to download the document you will need WIN ZIP, available from
I see they sell it for $29, but they also have a free trial version which would
do the job for you at a better price.
Then you need to un zip the file (expand and open it), and it comes out as
a PDF document
(portable document format).
To view this you will need Adobe Acrobat Reader, available from
Note if you only want to view documents (not create them) you only need the
Reader which is a free download.
Win Zip and PDF are very handy utilities to have since they are in common use
on the internet, so it is worthwhile getting them.
And if you do have these already it is worthwhile checking that you have the
latest version, and getting the upgrade, (normally free), current latest versio
are - Win Zip ver 8.1, Adobe Reader ver 5.
I hope this is of some help to people.
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