SEN-472 Sept.15 2000
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News and Reports 2000 - second half
SCAT Electronic News 15 September 2000 issue 472
Table of Contents
Sanding Jig - wagner
fuelproofing icerex - Stiles
Vol Libre magazine ? - Ursicino
Dynasty Cup 2000 - Phair
Cloacal Orientation? - Bogie
2.5cc +- - Dukie
Stonehenge Cup and the Fuel Crisis-Peter Tribe GBR F/F Tech Committee - Tribe
The 20 secs are here to stay - Tribe
Cox Question ?
Flying Aces magazines for sale - Perrault
WWII Japanese Naval Vessels ? - Pudney
K. Fags has the greatest sanding jig for dihedral joints. Comes with an
adjustable angle unit and a hard sanding block which you can attach your own
grade of coarseness sandpaper. I know he had large and smaller units, at this
time I don=92t know the current price. They were really slick. His number
in Rivervale, NJ is (201) 664-2606, regards Joe Wagner
I have found that you can use top flight flat clear for icerex covering. i
just got done with a new wing and it works real nice. it comes in a spray can
and is fuel proof up to 35%nitro. the finish when dry is semi gloss looks and
feels great and dries to the touch in 20 mins. there are all colors available
for stripes i put whatever color on first then the clear. charlie
Vol Libre magazine
does anybody know the post address and the e-mail address of Mr. Andree
Schandel (editor of Vole Libre french magazine), if any?.
Has the magazine a website?
Thank you in advance
[The magazine does not have a web site to my knowledge nut
Dynasty Cup 2000
An America's Cup Contest
The Open Events were flown on Saturday September 9th and
the FAI Events were flown on Sunday September 10th.
Virtually any competition free flight model can be flown
in the Open events. Embedded in the Open Events are the
Mini FAI events that are flown for separate awards and
Americas’ Cup points. This year we had a wide variety of
models competing. The list included A1 glider, A2 glider,
Catapult glider, Hand Launch glider, Mulvihill, Wakefield,
P-30, Coupe, OT Cabin, B Gas, and Slow Open Power.
Each model class flies to the rule book max. Total time
for models flown to 2 minute maxes are multiplied by 3/2
to adjust the total time to compare with the models flown
to 3 minute maxes
Open Glider had four entrants and four different types of
models. Willard Smitz flew maxes on 4 out of 5 flights
with his Top Kick A1 glider to top the Open Glider
Open Rubber had the largest entry of the contest. Eight
entrants and five different types of models. Here too, a
model for a 2 minute event came out on top. Dick Wood
started slow but finished strong to take first place with
his F1G coupe model
A Pearl, a Ram Rod and two fast B Gas models contested
Open Power. Frank Menanno won with one of his Shooting
Stars with a fabulous straight up climb.
The weather was so nice at the close of official flying
that we staged a pot fly shoot out for all those that were
still standing. We had eight participants with models
ranging from A2 to B Gas to SLOP and even a hand launch
glider. Pete McQuade, Dean Carpenter, and Bill Lovins made
the first max. The second round was for a 5 minute max.
Only Pete McQuade achieved the max in this round to win
Sunday was for the FAI events with more rounds and fewer
participants. The winners of these events also receive
points toward the America’s Cup.
In F1A we had three participants. Early in the contest
Jerry Murphy was in control, flying well, picking good
air, and building a large lead. His run came apart in the
fifth round with a succession of problems that resulted in
no flight time in the last three rounds. Pete McQuade’s
fortunes improved as the contest proceeded. His three
maxes in the last three rounds propelled him to the
winner’s circle. THE MASTER, Willard Smitz did not repeat
his heroics of the FAI Annual but he soldiered through a
day of tough air picking and model problems.
F1B started out as a horse race between three of the four
competitors. Dick Wood only dropped one flight on his way
to winning the event. Dick also earned the bottle of
champagne for high time of the day. Jim O’Reilly had two
dropped flights in his second place effort. Darold Jones
finished out the day with a hard earned max to take third.
Frank Menanno fought a cranky engine and trim problems
throughout the day to survive in F1C. Frank stuck his
model into the ground twice during the contest.
All in all this year’s Dynasty Cup was a success. Good
flyers, good weather, good times.
CD’s Ken Phair Chuck Etherington
Event Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Place
Contestant Time Time Time Time Time Time Time
Wind, MPS 1.5 3.3 2.8 1.7 2.7 1.5
Temperature, F 61 76 81 83 86 88
Pete McQuade 106 69 180 122 180 180 180 1017 1
Jerry Murphy 180 95 180 180 0 0 0 635 2
Willard Smitz 98 93 89 70 40 180 0 570 3
Dick Wood 180 180 180 180 155 180 180 1235 1
Jim O'Reilly 180 180 147 131 180 180 180 1178 2
Darold Jones 141 161 54 82 94 78 180 790 3
Roger Maves 180 180 180 123 21 0 0 684
Frank Menanno 124 0 87 45 128 94 0 478 1
Event Round 1 2 3 4 5 AdjustedPlace
Contestant Model Class Time Time Time Time Total Time Total Total
Wind, MPS 3 2.4 0.8 1.5
Temperature, F 75 79 86 88
3 Min Max
Pete McQuade F1A 0 0 0 180 180 360 2
2 Min Max
Willard Smitz F1H 120 120 120 35 120 773 1
Jack Ivey - HLG HLG 0 0 42 34 41 176 3
Jack Ivey - CLG CLG 0 0 0 16 26 63
3 Min Max
Jim O'Reilly F1B 83 113 180 180 150 706 3
Roger Maves Mulvihill 0 86 86
John Anders Mulvihill 180 180 180 540
Ed Smull OT Cabin 180 180
Bill Etherington Mulvihill 0 0
2 Min Max
Dick Wood F1G 87 101 120 120 120 822 1
Jerry Murphy F1G 120 120 120 50 93 755 2
Frank Mennano P-30 51 80 35 113 120 599
3 Min Max
Frank Menanno B Gas 154 180 180 91 180 785 1
Bill Lovins SLOP 180 67 180 77 180 684 2
Dean Carpenter B Gas 180 96 107 80 180 643 3
Bill Etherington SLOP 41 101 175 180 142 639
Sounds like Hardy has recalled from memory his lessons on birds and bees.
In reference to how to measure an engine displacement. The rules have changed
a bit since 1979. Now there is .01 tolerance. When I was DQ'd in '79 there
was no tolerance, and no standard as to where the measurement was taken. Top
of bore, TDC, whatever seemed like a place they could measure to get the
biggest number possible. My engine was deemed to be . 016cc oversize, which
was really an error in that the engine actually was .007cc oversize (the same
volume as a human hair .187 long) which probaby made the propeller turn about
an additional 1/10 of a revolution in seven seconds. The cylinder had an
anomaly in that the upper .100 inch had an opposite taper toward the top of
the liner. It was at this point that the final measurement was taken, which
resulted in the disqualification.
This fiasco led to the rules now in place which are a proper way of measuring
an engine except for the fact that there is a taper all the way to the top of
the liner, and some have a bore measured at the top that is about .0005 to
.0006 smaller than the bore at top dead center. This makes it tough to get it
exactly right on the field after the meet, hence the hundredth of a cc
tolerance. So the rule as of now is OK.
Stonehenge Cup and the Fuel Crisis-Peter Tribe GBR F/F Tech Committee
Many of you are probably aware of the shortage of petrol/gasolene and
diesel fuel in Europe and especially in Britain following the successful
action of the French lorry drivers in forcing the French Government to
reduce tax on fuels.This encouraged protesters in various other
countries to emulate the French and to try and reduce the exorbitant
cost of fuel elsewhere.
In Britain, a relatively small protest/blockade at one oil refinery last
Friday quickly spread to all the others, and within a couple of days
there were shortages of fuel at service stations which induced panic
buying and by Tuesday every service station in the country was empty and
The protesters had the sympathy of the public (about 85% supported the
action), and more importantly, the support of the tanker drivers who
generally refused to cross the gates of the refinery, even though the
protestors where in the main only a dozen or so in number and not
The sympathetic feeling by the public is due to the fact that the UK
cost of fuel is probably the highest in Europe (and perhaps the world)
at about 83 pence per litre (approx $6 per gallon) and rising.This has
been partially caused by the previous UK Government adding a 6%
escalator above inflation to the price of fuel to force people to make
better use of public transport to help slow down the 'Greenhouse effect
' on world climate. All very well if we believed that many other
countries were taking on similar hardships.
The UK government was rocked to its heels by the sudden total loss of
control, but was (as expected ) adamant that it would not be blackmailed
into reducing prices.
BUT, NOW FOR THE GOOD NEWS
Having come to within a couple of days of the hard decision on
cancelling the Stonehenge event, the protesters announced this morning(
14th Sept) that, having made their point very hard to the Government,
they were ending their protests for the time being and looking forward
to a positive response to fuel prices in the near future.So the tanker
lorries have started deliveries again (there was a bit of a hiccup when
the first fuel went on sale at 4 p/l extra (about 20c/gall) due to the
fact that the increase of crude oil over the last week has risen even
further) and it is anticipated that fuel will be available across the
country within a week or so.
Therefore, subject to any further developements, the Stonehenge Cup
event is proceeding normally and we hope to see all our guests from
around the world.
The 20 secs are here to stay
I am not sure why there is so much discussion on the 20 s rule; the
rules can't be changed until 2005, thank goodness!
However, if anyone wants to think something over and get it ready for a
proposal in a few years time, I suggest that a contestant must register
any of his models equipped with RCDT (even if it is temporarily
disabled) before his first contest flight, and he forfeits the 20 s rule
for early DT when those models are flown.
Cox Question ?
I would like to know what is the max. weight a Cox Babe bee can take
Flying Aces magazines for sale
Gentlemen: I have 59 issues from 1934 to 1943, I am looking for selling
prices for them.
They range in condition from fair > fair to good.
I am thinking of selling them
WWII Japanese Naval Vessels ?
Searching for these led him to free flight aeromodelling ... and a book
written in Polish - bought just for the pictures!
Methinks Mr Shackleford's time at the Pole has frozen his searching finger ....
By the way, if anyone has a recipe for Latvian piroshki, I'd be ever so
Adelaide, South Australia