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- View From afar
- Am Cup Scoring proposal
Fab Feb Flikr Pictures
From: Merry Smith
Roger, here are my pictures from Fabulous February 2016. What a wonderful ten days that was both in weather and fine flying friends!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/freeflight_paparazzi/albums/72157662619499213
Merry
Maxmen International Results Part 2
World Cup Events
F1C
Sportsman R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 F1 F2 TotalF1P
1 Summersby, Roy AUS 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 448 2128
2 Babenko, Artem UKR 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 410 2090
3 Parker, Faust USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 355 1675
4 Savukhina, Larissa RUS 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 246 1566
5 Roberts, Mike USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1500
5 Briere, Gauthier FRA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1500
7 Mathis, Richard USA 240 180 180 180 180 176 180 1316
8 Chesson, Don USA 240 180 180 180 180 175 180 1315
9 Lester, Michael GBR 240 180 164 180 180 180 180 1304
10 Faux, Ken GBR 240 180 180 180 180 160 180 1300
11 Gao, Yuan CHN 240 180 180 180 180 180 141 1281
12 Morris, Gil USA 226 180 180 180 180 116 180 1242
13 Gewain, Matt USA 144 180 180 180 3 180 180 1047
14 Truppe Reinhard AUS 240 180 180 70 0 0 0 670
15 McBurnett, Ron USA 225 180 172 0 0 0 0 577
16 Malkhasyan, Taron USA 29 180 180 180 0 0 0 569
17 Verbitsky, Evgeny UKR 240 180 27 0 0 0 0 447
18 Jack, Alan GBR 67 0 0 0 0 0 0 67
NAME R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7
1 Schneider, Glenn USA 141 147 180 180 180 180 180 1188
2 Malkhasyan, Sevak (JuniUSA 240 180 180 180 0 0 0 780
F1Q
Name R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 TOTAL
1 Sitton, Shmulik ISR 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1260
2 Kaynes, Ian GBR 180 180 135 180 180 180 180 1215
3 Murphy, Jack USA 180 180 105 180 180 180 180 1185
4 Hines, Lee USA 168 180 171 180 180 119 180 1178
5 Schlosberg, Aram USA 148 180 180 180 113 180 180 1161
6 Tarcher, Benjamin USA 14 180 180 180 140 180 180 1054
Mini Events
F1H
Name R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 F1 F2 TOTALF1G
1 Belassiano, Aviv ISR 120 120 120 120 120 300 276 1176
2 Sitton, Shmulik ISR 120 120 120 120 120 300 202 1102
3 Findah, Per SWE 120 120 120 120 120 300 83 983
4 Madelin, Gary GBR 120 120 120 120 120 296 896
5 Edge, Chris GBR 120 120 120 120 120 207 807
6 Issakov, Saar ISR 120 120 120 120 120 180 780
7 Lavis, Brian GBR 120 120 120 120 120 30 630
8 Jensen, Blake USA 120 120 120 120 120 0 600
9 Studnk, Avner ISR 120 120 120 120 117 597
10 Parker, Jim USA 120 120 120 120 115 595
11 Zak, Yuheda ISR 120 120 120 120 103 583
12 Banos, Alfredo ARG 120 113 120 120 93 566
13 Burford, Kathy AUS 120 120 120 120 80 560
14 Van Nest, Brian USA 81 118 120 120 120 559
15 Wallace, Robert NZL 120 120 120 120 56 536
16 McKeever, Mike USA 120 120 120 120 49 529
17 Mitchell, Phil AUS 120 120 120 104 0 464
18 Campbell, Malcolm AUS 120 93 41 111 0 365
19 Sifleet, Robert USA 0 0 0 0 0
NAME R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 F1 TOTAL
1 Allen, Carrol USA 120 120 120 120 120 285 885
2 Brocks, Peter USA 120 120 120 120 120 264 864
3 Jensen, Blake USA 120 120 120 120 120 225 825
4 Gorban, Evgeny UKR 120 120 120 120 120 220 820
5 Richardson, Mike USA 120 120 120 120 120 176 776
6 Baruch, Abraham ISR 120 120 120 120 120 112 712
7 O'Dell, Tiffaney USA 120 120 120 120 120 4 604
8 Chevenard, Didier FRA 120 120 120 120 120 3 603
9 Horak, Ladislav CAN 120 120 120 120 120 0 600
9 Fibish, Tuvia ISR 120 120 120 120 120 0 600
11 Sirkis, Omri ISR 120 120 120 120 112 592
12 Castrucci, Luiz AlbertoBRA 97 120 120 120 0 457
13 Stefanchuk, Stepan UKR 112 120 93 120 0 445
14 Ioerger, Tom USA 120 120 120 0 0 360
15 Jones, Geralyn USA 120 120 70 0 0 310
F1J
NAME R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 TOTAL
1 Parker, Faust USA 120 120 120 120 120 600
2 Lester, Michael GBR 34 120 120 120 120 514
3 Schneider, Glenn USA 120 120 118 0 0 358
4 Jack, Alan GBR 2 0 0 0 0 2
F1S
NAME R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 TOTAL
1 Parker, Julie USA 120 120 120 120 120 600
2 Hines, Lee USA 120 120 120 120 102 582
3 Malkhasyan, Sevak USA 120 120 120 120 12 492
4 Murpy, Jack USA 120 120 120 26 0 386
5 Tarcher, Benjamin USA 120 83 19 0 0 222
RE: SEN 2116 - View from afar
From: Terry Kerger
Roger
I think you F1B guys need less performance and a RC DT or 7 rounds to weed out the squeakers. Max Men results show 39 out of a possible 53 or 73% of the sportsmen made all 5 maxes and qualified for the fly off. Only 8 dropped one round. The remaining 6 need more practice.
Re the controversy, don't pick on the flyer, pick on the timekeeper. Timing for a 8 minute max is not easy, we have to give the benefit of the doubt to the flyer. Cut the guys some slack.
Retired Power flyer.
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Contest Meta-Scoring - suggested proposal for Am Cup
Is there a better (?) way to score multiple contests than the American Cup? Consider a new FAI meta-contest scoring system:
A: Max outs
1. A flier who fully maxes out (FullMO) (7 rounds with an optional 4 minute max or 5 rounds with two 4 minute maxes) get 25 points.
2. A flier who maxes out a truncated max out (TruncMO) (at least 5 rounds with a minimum max of 2:30) get 20 points. (Note that 900 in five rounds would qualify, but not 899.)
3. A flier who maxes out a mini event (MiniMO) (five rounds with a 2-minute max) gets 20 points.
B: Bonus points:
1. With a single flyoff if flown, the top five flyoff fliers would get bonus points, based on the number they beat plus one. So, if three flew, the winner would get 3 bonus points, the second 2 etc. A flyoff flier who does not post time gets no bonus points.
2. If more flyoffs take place, or the first flyoff has a 10-minute max, the top seven flyoff fliers would get bonus points based on the number they beat plus one with the same proviso for those who did not fly. So if there were six flyoff fliers the winner would get 6 bonus points.
3. Bonus points are added to the ‘base’, 25 points of a FullMO; to 20 at a TruncFO or a MMO.
C: The highest non-maxedout flier gets 5 points less than a maxout, the next flier 10 points less and so on, provided they make five flights.
D: The rest of the fliers get 1 point per contest, if they fly at least three flights as a token of recognition.
E: The two best scores at a venue count. Only American Cup contests quality. No awards are offered,
Example 1: FullMO with two flyoffs: Flyoff fliers, 25+7, … ,25+1, …, 25 (the other flyoff fliers), 20, 15, 10 and 5 (non-flyoff fliers) and ones for the rest.
Example 2: TruncMO with a single flyoff: Flyoff fliers 20+3, 20+2 20+1, 20 (other flyoff fliers), 15, 10 and 5 (non-flyoff fliers) and ones for the rest.
Example 3: A mini event with flyoffs: Flyoff fliers 20+2, 20+1, 15 (3 maxed out, two flew), 15, 10 and 5 (non-flyoff fliers) and ones for the rest.
Example 4: Contest without a PMO or MMO. 15 points to the highest ranked flier, 10 points to the next flier etc.
Example S: Solo flier, FullMO 25 points; Solo flier, TruncFO 20 points; Solo flier, just five flights 15 points.
In summary, this system reflects the difficulty contest flying. Flyoffs and excellence performance are rewarded and all those who participate are recognized. Solo fliers have to fly well to receive 25 or 20 points. As many fliers are likely to accumulate 50 points at a main venue, positioning them in contention for the top ranks.
To illustrate, the following is a list of American fliers that would have accumulated at least 50 points plus the bonus points at the Kiwi (SEN 2018), Pan Am (SEN 2022) and Maxmen (SEN 2116):
Ghio and Andriukov (+13), me (+10), Schrodter (+9), Filex (+7), Mathews (+6), Jones (+4), Jenson and Morrell (+3), Crowley (+2), Achterberg and Richardson (+0).
The meta-scoring system will be applied this year to F1B and F1Q from the beginning of the year as a test of concept. Please send e-contest results to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Aram
Note that this a proposal from Aram , not the America's Cup team . His scoring will not affect the runnning of the Americas Cup this year
Roger Morrell