SEN 1605

Table of Contents - SEN 1605

  1. 2012 AM Cup Banquet details
  2. TUSTIN Tattle
  3. Icarex Info
  4. 2011 Sympos from FFn
  5. NFFS Pubs correction
  6. Icarex Supplier
  7. Tustin Details

2012 AmCup Banquet Date Change

For SEN,

The 2012 AmCup Banquet has changed from the MaxMen Saturday to the Winter Classic (NZ WCup/Ike's) Saturday Feb 11, 2012. This was due to schedule conflict at the Elk's Club.  Please make note, correct contest flyers and spread the word.

Thermals, JIM

Tustin Tattle

I finally made it to a Tustin indoor flying session. For those who have not made it yet, there are still 3 more days left with Thurs thru Saturday.  There is an on going effort to make sure that we can fly at this magical indoor site in the future. More participation will probably help our cause.  Not only the height but the magically at certain times of the year have helped a number of record holders.

I took part in the 1/8 catapult contest with one of Stan Buddenbohm's Park Scouts that I bought and built down there.  Also there were the Weiler family doing the family visiting thing.  I was good to see Randy again.  His 2 boys were also flying Park Scouts and doing very well. Fortunately Randy did not enter them in the event. It was bad enough being beaten in a F1B event by my 12 year old grandson, here was a risk I would have been beaten by a 6 year old Weiler !  In spite of the potential humiliation I had a good time and was suprised to see how high the simple Park Scout.  Flying one of those at the 164 [50m] high site  is like driving a go kart on the Indy track

Also seen was one of Ken Bauer's foam tip launched indoor gliders. This model was "covered" with glass with a graphite criss cross pattern. Airplane flew well.  On Tuesday Gary Hodson set a new A-6 record! 9:43. Today he was flying beautiful scale models, including a pre-1910 biplane. Gary is from Kansas.  There was a young flyer working on the junior or senior AMA mini-stick record.

Brian Furutani has already posted pictures from Monday's Tustin session. Go to pics <>.

Stan B was working on another record attempt and on Tuesday threw harder than he ever had before, causing one of his stable to explode at launch.  Stan still has better airplanes ready, if you go this week maybe you will see a record ?

See at the end of the SEN  for Tustin details

Icarex Info

Icarex is no longer sold by that name because the copyright belongs to a company who used to sell it but no longer does. However, two web sites sell the same fabric under the more generic "polyester fabric" label. They are kite suppliers Into the Wind and Hang'em High....I may not have spelled their names correctly, but a web search will fix that. There are two weights available: half-ounce and three-quarter ounce (per sq yard). The latter (Into the Wind) has a final weight of 42 grams per sq meter due to coating. My last puchase from Hang'em High more than 5 years ago was the half-ounce cloth that had actual weight of 39 grams per sq meter due to coating as I learned from calling 'em up. The cloth is quite waterproof and requires no further coating. However, the coating doubles the weight per unit area of the cloth. I would like to find uncoated fabric at the listed weight and see how much a few coats of nitrate would add.

Chuck Markos

2011 Sympo from FFn


You had previously announced that NFFS had sold all their copies of the 2011 Symposium Report. For the last few weeks the only source was to buy from Free Flight News,  but we have now sold our last copy. I think this means there are no more Sympo 2011 available anywhere.


I would also like to tell your readers that Free Flight News will be available with the electronic format, much cheaper than mailing paper copies outside the UK. The link for purchasing is


Ian Kaynes


NFFS Pubs address correction


The correct email address for Bob Stalick at NFFS Publications Services is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Sorry for the confusion. Contact me for the used and recycled NFFS Books.


Icarex Supplier

Dear Roger,

I would like to wish you and your family happy holidays  and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year with a lot of thermals and much success.

Many guys are looking for Icarex. Would you be so kind and publish this information here below.

Dear friends,  Icarex is available from Vliegerop in Netherlands ( Holland) They have all the colours available. The contact information is:

Tel. +31 (0) 70 385 85 86
Fax. +31 (0) 70 383 85 41
Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Leslie Farkas

Tustin Info recall

6 days in December in the fantastic Tustin Hanger

Note in the original announcement it said 5 days - Ralph has got it extended by a day to include Saturday - check with Ralph for details

We're flying Six days in the fantastic Tustin, CA Blimp Hangar. December 26 - 31, Mon-Sat, 2011. It's a record trials, fun fly and contest with prizes! All the details are in the attachment. Any questions, post back to me. Make sure you reserve your spot!

Norm Furutani, CD

Indoor flying at the Tustin MCAS Blimp Hangar
December 26 - 31, 2011

We are pleased to announce the following flying dates for the Famous Tustin MCAS Blimp Hangar.
Monday thru Saturday, December 26 - 31, 2011.

Sponsored Dates:
There are costs to use the hangar and we have tried to secure sponsorship for all days to reduce
your entry cost. Some of our sponsors (clubs and/or individuals) are able to absorb a loss, others
need to try and break even (Me!) so the fee varies. Donations beyond the basic fees are welcome!
The number of attendees are limited so it would be prudent to contact the sponsors and get on their
list. See their flyers for contact info. See the hangar: Tustin pics
Monday 12/26 is sponsored by the BlackSheep. Entry fee will be $10/day.
Thursday 12/29 is sponsored by the Harbor Soaring Society. Entry fee is $15/day.
Tuesday and Wednesday 12/27-28 will be sponsored by Norm Furutani. Entry fee is $20/day.
Friday 12/30 is at this time unsponsored, fee will be $50.

Special Events on Normʼs Days
Tuesday, 12/27 and Wednesday, 12/28/2011.
To add to the fun, we are offering three competition events.
1. Phantom Flash, mass launch and longest flight (unlimited attempts). Must be to original plan,
tissue covering w/ logo, any prop, 6” maximum.
2. NEW! Beat the Record! Prize for the best record attempt. This is for all Cat. IV AMA indoor record
classes. The flight(s) with the highest percentage of the current AMA record will be the winner. Ex:
EZB gets 92% of the current EZB record, A-6 95% of the A-6 record. A-6 wins!
3. NEW! 1/8th Inch rubber CLG. Fly ANY CLG, but use a single 1/8” wide loop of FAI rubber. 6”
hand held stick. Best 2 flights out of 9 attempts. Stan will have special Indoor Park Scout kits
available, $10
There will be PRIZES! A2Z, Ray Harlan and Starlink have generously agreed to donate goodies!
More to come!

An AMA record trial sanction will be in place for all days. AMA membership is required of all fliers.
Location and gate access:

The hangar gate is located near the intersection of Valencia Ave. and Armstrong Ave., Tustin CA.
Access is restricted and the gate must remain locked.
The gate will open briefly for entry or exit at the following times! 7, 9, and 11am, 12:30, 2:30 and the
end of the day. Please! No exceptions!

Google Marine Corps Air Station Tustin or contact the sponsors if you need further instructions.
Air Travel:
The Orange County John Wayne International is very close. LAX is approx. 45 miles away.
Most of the guys stay at:
Motel 6 Irvine Orange County Airport
1717 E Dyer Rd, Santa Ana, CA 92705 (949) 261-1515 (800) 466-8356 (949) 261-1265 (Fax)

There is NO electricity, lighting or water available. There will be a port a potty outside.
We will be in winter hours so a battery powered light might be handy. If you are traveling by air, we
will try to help with tables and chairs, but please let us know.
Ralph Ray, organizer This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Norm Furutani, FF CD - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or leave a message on my cell 310.408.7046
Fred Hesse, Harbor Soaring Society This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Dave Gee, BlackSheep Squadron This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Inappropriate aircraft will not be allowed to fly! (ex. high speed and/or heavy craft) At the discretion of
the CD and organizers.

NO smoking or alcohol. Please remove any trash.


Roger Morrell