SEN 1186 - 25 February 2008
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- SEN and ATT and Bell South
- F1Q Added to SCAT Annual
- Looking for a Rossi 15
- F1A Flapper - Allard
- F1A Flapper - Gerhard
- Lost Hills Re-zoning
- Still looking for Superior Propos
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F1Q Added to SCAT Annual
Looking for a Rossi 15
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F1A Flapper Redux - Allard
From: Lee HinesFlap Follow up or rather prequelle - Gerhard
From: Gerhard Aringer
Hi there,
who can tell Aram that the "new development" he has recognized for the
first time in his life is a copy of what I already used in the last WC
Argentina 2005. After the first fly off, in Argentina , my model came
back with a broken boom, so that it did not fly well in last fly off.
The development is done in 2003-2004 and if he was in MaxMen 2004 he
could already see the prototype used by Jes Nyhegn.
Sorry, most of the ideas are already 4 years old.
The same construction of the wing is almost in my F1C models in use
since WC USA 2001. Thomas Koster was the first, as in my personal
memories, who build up a flapper wing geodetical.
With kind regards
Gerhard Aringer
From: Klaus Salzer
The first F1A Flapper?
Sorry to contradict Aram, but Austrian Gerhard Aringer used a flapped F1A
for the first flyoff at the 2005 WCh in Argentina. Sadly, the retrievers
found this plane with the boom broken by someone, so in the second flyoff it
could not be used to full effect. Per Findahl may have copied the design, as
the description sounds quite similar to Gerhard's design.
regards
Klaus W. Salzer
Austria
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Aram wrote in SEN 1185:
"The first F1A flapper was developed by Per Findahl last year 2007, just
published in the February '08 FFn."
I remember that, during 2005 WC in Embalse, Gerd Aringer already had an F1A flapper;
built exactly as his F1C flappers.
He claimed 80+ meters on launch.
Bernard
Also Lee Hines sent a lot of info but it needs editing so is in the hold folder...
Lost Hill’s Rezoning?
Aram Schlosberg
Are we using the Lost Hill’s site rationally – the answer is both yes and no.
Currently, all the cars are parked on top of the hill. There is a ridge running
towards the west-south west which is the permanent flying line. (One can
actually see the site on maps.goggle.com). Occasionally, at the Finals or
at a World Championship, another line, in the form of an “X” is run diagonally,
from the north-west to the south-east, crossing the line at about a third of
the way.
During the last Finals (2006), I happened to fly at one of the low poles of the
standard line – meaning that I was on the east side of the line. The wind/drift
was coming from the north-east, which meant that me and my neighbors
were the goats of everyone further down the line. A formal protest could not
rotate the line.
This experience was repeated on Saturday during the ’08 Maxmen. Starting
at a low pole (2) with the drift from the north-east. A lone streamer stood
upwind, and many smiling faces downwind/drift. A formal protest was in vain.
The drift remained from the north east practically all day. By the 7-minute flyoff,
a new line, perpendicular to the regular line suddenly appeared, following a
suggestion by Buzz Avrill. The fliers had no problem walking over with their
models and flying from the new line. (This bodes well for the ‘08 Finals which
Buzz will manage).
The wind/drift at Lost Hills rotates over the day. In the absence of a major
weather system, the prevailing wind/drift tens to roughly be in the direction
of the sun. It is also obvious that more “standard” lines are needed.
The question is where?
The surprising answer is that a new north-south line should run exactly on
the west side of the parking lot. In other words, the parking area occupies
the most desirable part of the field! If one comes to trim alone, the natural
choice would be to park on the highest point of the field and tow/launch in
any direction. It seems that parking at this spot has become a habit, and
consequently, the parking area in contest just takes up the best real estate.
A proof is the large number of landings between or on the parked cars.
Essentially, I’m suggesting that, during a contest, that the parking area
be moved due south, just south of the east-west road. This would allow
contestants to easily reach the current west-south-west line and a new
north-south line on the western side of the current parking lot. And when
the wind blows from the west, to fly from a north-south line along the
western part of the field.
A new north-south line and relocating the parking would circumvent the
many smiling faces downwind/drift. Changing flight lines once or twice
during the day means that each of us is flying against mother nature –
which is the essence of a well run contest.
Looking for Superior Props Still
From:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.Still nobody/nothing on Superior Props? Are they gone? Ed Mate
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Roger Morrell