SEN 1206 - 29 April 2008

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1. You Tube F1B Correction
2. Spring Cup Results
3. AMA BOM Rule
4. 2008 Free Flight Forum Report

Correction for F1B on YouTube

From: Jim Parker

16th Annual Spring Cup, Seguin

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Well as usual the weather for the Spring Cup was central to the competition. Forecasts looked daunting for both days and we expected the worst. Saturday I was awakened by heavy rain, lightning and thunder at around 3-4 AM. By the time we got to the field the rain was tapering and the wind was shifting all over the place. By 8:30 we had selected a site for the line and started flying at 9:00. Moderate winds out of the ENE lasted for the first two rounds. During the second round we experienced 180 shifts in wind direction several times, with models going off the field. We moved to our traditional launch site for the rest of the day and ended up getting in all 7 rounds as the weather actually got better and all-in-all we had a fabulous day.

Sundays forecast remained gloomy and sure enough they were right. Breezy early was an understatement, with shifting direction. We selected a line site just before the start at 8:00 with foreboding thunderstorms and roll clouds on the horizon. We accelerated everything and told everyone that it was not going to get better, boy was that an understatement. Many people packed up and hit the road (not a bad decision). Fortunately we only experienced on and off light showers as the really heavy stuff stayed just north of the field. Winds increase steadily until somewhere around 10:30. I was out looking for my F1J which left the field on my fourth flight when the REAL wind hit. When I located the model in a plowed field, I realized that it had been wind tumbled as it had a broken tip and some other structural damage. It was all I could do to walk it back to the van without further wind damage. When we got back to the flight line everyone was packing. Sustained winds were 30 mph with gusts to 35. All agreed that we had to call it a day as there was no hope of the weather improving. We have to applaud the brave (or demented) souls that flew on Sunday. Another Spring Cup in the books!

F1A (6 Flew)
1. Steve Spence	120,120,120,120,120,120,120     840
2. Dan Berry		120,120,120,108,120,120,120     828
3. Jim Troutman          120,120,120,061,097,120,104     742
4. Mike Fedor		120,120,036,120,120,120,105     741
5. Jackie Sheffer	120,120,000,120,041,120,097     618
6. Bobby Hanford	120,056,082,100,109,064,065     596

F1B (5 Flew)
1. Richard Wood	120,120,120,120,120,120,120     840
2. Gerald Brown 	120,107,120,120,120,120,120     827
3. E. Vanlandingham	120,120,080,120,120,120,120     800
4. Pete Reinhart	120,112,070,120,111,110,000     643
5. Mark Troutman	075                                               075

F1C (3 Flew)
1. Henry Spence	120,120,120,120,120,120,120     TBD
1. Don Chesson	120,120,120,120,120,120,120     TBD
3. Mark Troutman	120,109                                        229



F1Q (5 Flew)
1. Dan Berry               120,120,120,120,120,120,120     840
2. Richard Wood        120,120,082,120,120,120,120     802
3. Julie Parker		003,111,069,120,058,120,110    591
4. Mike Fedor		031,076,029,022,030,058           246
5. Mark Troutman	011,011,030                                  52

Open Gas (9 Flew)
1. Gerald Brown	120,120,120,120,120,120,120     TBD
1. Dan Berry		120,120,120,120,120,120,120     TBD
3. Jackie Sheffer	120,120,120,120,109,120,120     829
4. Marvin Mace 	120,120,120,120,120,120,092     812
5. Bobby Hanford	095,120,107,120,120,120,120     802
6. Jim Parker		120,120,120,120,120,086,120     686
7. Tom Bell		120,104,119                                 343
8. Mark Troutman	120,092                                        212
9. John Irwin		049                                               049

P30 (5 Flew)
1. Bob Hanford (Sr)	120,120,120,067                          427
2. Gerald Brown	120,120,120,063                          423
3. Pete Reinhart	090,120,120                                 330
4. Jim Thornton	081,063,120                                 264
5. Mark Troutman	056,074,066                                 196

F1G (4 Flew)
1. Pete Reinhart	120,096,093,088,052                   449
2. Richard Wood	080,114,120,036,088                   438
3. Gerald Brown	080,086,099,065                          330
4. E. Vanlandingham	120,060                                        180

F1H (2 Flew)      
1. Mike Fedor		068,074                                        142
2. Dan Berry		107                                               107

F1J (2Flew)
1. Faust Parker	120,120,120,120,000                   480
2. Bobby Hanford	120                                               120

F1P (1Flew)
1. Bobby Hanford	120                                               120

NFFS Special (4 Flew)
1. Mark Troutman	120,120,120                                 TBD
1. Bobby Hanford	120,120,120                                 TBD
3. Jim Troutman	120,061,120                                 301
4. Dan Berry		074,064                                        138

Retain AMA's BOM Rule

[For those outside of the USA, there is a discussion and an up coming vote on removing the BOM - builder of the model - rule for domestic AMA contests. There has been a heated discussion on this on other electronic and print media in the USA. Gil's opinion expressed below is like that of all the authors, their own, not necessarily that of SEN]

 
To: "Rudy Kluber"  
Sent: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:01:02 -0400
Subject: Retain AMA's BOM Rule

Hi Rudy,

AMA rules should not be compared to FAI rules.  FAI is a no-hold-barred 
mentality to do what ever it takes to not only make the Team but to place 
high in the world. A top notch designer/builder can beat the store-bought 
model(import). A serious custom built model can beat the best factory model. 
I believe this is true in any pursuit, not just model airplanes.

AMA's attraction is different. It's a hobby and a sport to most and if those 
folks are frustrated by flyers who simply buy (and the bought models will be 
better than most hobbyist can make), the hobbyist will kick the habit -- 
they're not going to buy and they're not going to build just to have their 
teeth knocked out.

Please vote down proposal OFF-09-4.

Gil Morris

Just Out - The 2008 BMFA Free Flight Forum Report

Beyond Rubber Stretch Testing - Peter King

Indoor Wood Selection - Bob Bailey

Measuring Success - Mike Woodhouse

Review of the 2007 BMFA and Combined Rubber Contest Season - Phil Ball

Small Rubber Models as an Intro to Free Flight - Chris Strachan

The Lottery of Winning - George Seyfang

Aborted Launch Solutions - Chris Edge

Lutz Schramm's F1D (Carbon and Kevlar Propeller Outlines) - Nick Aikman

Transportable Wind Tunnels - George Seyfang

Comments on Thermal Picking and Related Matters in Odessa '07 - Alan Jack

Balsa for Indoor Models - Mark Benns

The Zombie Flight Profiler: Advanced Motor Control for Electric Free Flight

- Jonathan Crossley

Thoughts on Safety - Manny Williamson

Electronic Timers - Roger Morrell

Prices are being held to last year's and are as follows: UK

- £10.00 including postage

Airmail to Europe -

£12.00

Airmail elsewhere -

£14.00

Copies are available from : Martin Dilly

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