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SCAT Electronic News 12 May 2004 issue 872
table of Contents
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AW: [ciam-f1] Dr. BENEDEK - Woebbeking
May 29-30 FAI Schedule at Barron Field, Wawayanda, NY - Barron
Rene Jossien - Schandel and Brocks
BALTIC CUP  and Estonian CUP - Kilpelainen
NFFS Discussion  - Petersen
Buy Tech and Jrs. - Bennet
F1C Items - Gutai - Waterman
Paper tubes - BrokenSpar
Big Al's - Ghio
AUSTRALIAN FREE FLIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS
Re: [ciam-com-l] Dr. BENEDEK - Piminof
2004 Spring Cup -Texas - Parker
Paper tubes - Markos
Concorde's last flight - Boutillier
Paper Tubes - Boutiilier
Thanks
AW: [ciam-f1] Dr. BENEDEK
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Dear Andras,
Gyorgy Benedek had great influence on the aeromodelling movement in
Germany. Not only his airfoils but his scientific articles in German
magazines as well improved the standard of our model aircrafts in the
fifties and enabled us to move up to world class level. Standing on the
shoulders of the heroes of these days we are still deeply indebted to
Dr. Benedek. I was very much impressed when I met him 1993 and enjoyed
his superb knowledge and his nice German.
It is sad to loose such an important personality.
Yours
Gerhard Woebbeking
CIAM Delegate Germany
 
 
May 29-30 FAI Schedule at Barron Field, Wawayanda, NY
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Friends,
  Here is the FAI FF schedule for our upcoming contest. 
Note that the Maxi events are now 10 rounts.
Hope to see many of you there!
Andrew Barron
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             SKY-SCRAPERS INTERNATIONAL CHALLENGE
                America's Cup and National Cup
                FAI, AMA, Nostalgia, FAC, SAM
                      May 29-30, 2004
       Barron Field, Dean Ford Fields, and Shuback Fields
                    Wawayanda, New York
FAI EVENTS: 
Mini-FAI Saturday Morning. Maxi-FAI starts Saturday evening.
Saturday May 29:
  Mini-FAI events: 2 minute max
  F1G (rubber), F1H (glider), F1J/P (power, 7 sec motor run). 
  Round 1:  8:30-10:00am
  Round 2:  9:30-11:00am
  Round 3: 10:30-12:00
  Round 4: 11:30- 1:00pm
  Round 5: 12:30- 2:00pm
  Flyoffs:  2:20pm --
  Awards at end of rounds for events complete at that time.
Big-FAI events: F1A (glider), F1B (wakefield), F1C (power).
Satuday Evening:
  Round 1: 4:30-6:00pm  180 sec max
  Round 2: 5:30-7:00pm  180 sec max
  Round 3: 6:30-8:00pm  Super max (weather permitting)
Sunday Morning May 30:
  Round 4: 7:00- 8:30am  Super max
  Round 5: 8:00- 9:30am  180 sec max
  Round 6: 9:00-10:30am  max TBA (150 or 180)
  Round 7: 10:00-11:30am
  Round 8: 11:00-12:30pm
  Round 9: 12:00-1:30pm
  Round 10: 1:00-2:30pm
FAI directors:  Andrew Barron, Aram Schlosberg.
FAI fliers enter at Skyscraper table with Dave Acton.
Turn in scores between each flight at 
the box in the Barron Field Golf-Cart.
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AMA, AMA CLASSIC, AND NOSTALGIA EVENTS
Saturday May 29:  8am--4pm. 
   Hand Launch Glider, ABC Classic, ABC Nostalgia, Mulvihill,
   Nostalgia Rubber & Nostalgia Wakefield (combined).
Early Sunday: 6:45am-7:15am
   Dawn Unlimited.
Sunday May 30: 8am to 3:30pm. [Awards at 3:30pm.]
   Catapult Glider, 1/2 A Classic, 1/2 A Nostalgia,
   P-30 Rubber. Pee-Wee 30 Power.
Overall Skyscraper Contest Director: Dave Acton (914-948-4234)
89 N. Broadway, White Plains, NY 10603.
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Open fliers pay $25 ($10 field use fee, plus $15 entry which 
covers unlimited number of AMA, NOS, and FAI events).  
Juniors and Seniors pay $15 total 
($7.50 field use plus $7.50 entry).  
Awards:
One plaque per contestant that has a sufficiently 
high finish in at least one event.  
Labeled plates which adhere to the plaques are awarded 
for each finish in the top three in an event, 
and to best finishing Junior or Senior in each event flown.  
Bryton Barron perpetual trophy to best junior performance 
in AMA or FAI with model of own construction. 
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There are also a complete set of FAC EVENTS (run by Ed Pelatowski)
and several SAM events (run by Mal Maclean)
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The field is on Orange County Route 12, in Wawayanda, six miles
south of Route 17M near Middletown, NY.  Nearby airports include
Newburg, NY (30 min from field) or White Plains, NY; Hartford, CT;
LaGuardia, NY; Albany, NY; Newark, NJ; or Wilks-Barre-Scranton, PA
(all of which are less than 2 hours from the field).
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MOTORIZED VEHICHLES:  Cars on farm roads, motorcycles on Dean 
Ford Grass and at edge of each commercial strip of Barron Field sod 
(within 3 or 4 feet of ditch, if ground is firm enough).  
No motorized vehicles on the foot bridges. No motorized vehicles 
in the corn fields and no motorized vehicles on the Lois Ford 
fields and paths to the southwest.  
Golf carts are permitted anywhere on commercial sod or 
farm roads or grass areas, but not on foot bridges.
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DIRECTIONS:
*From New York city, take I-87 to Highway 17 to exit 123 (labeled
Middletown), west on 17M for 3.5 miles, to Orange County Route 12
(at the New Hampton, Town of Wawayanda sign), then turn left, 
heading south 6.3 miles.  After Gardnersville Road, the Barron and 
Ford fields are on the left at the Grain Silo. 
[This takes about one hour from the Tappan Zee bridge.]
*From New England and from upper New York, take I-84 to exit 3,
Rt. 17M, go east 1.5 miles, then south (right) on County. Rt. 12
for 6.3 miles. Field is on the left. [About thirty minutes from
Newburg.]
*From Western New York take Route 17 to I-84, south 3 miles to
exit 3, Route 17M, go east 1.5 miles, then south on County. Rt. 12
for 6.3 miles. Field is on the left.
*From Pennsylvania and points south, take I-84 to exit 2, turn left
off the ramp and then go one mile to the northeast on Route 6, turn
right at the sign pointing toward Pine Island (onto County Route 1),
go six miles east on County Route 1 (through Westtown), then veer
left at the sign for New Hampton onto County Route 12. Go one mile
north on County Route 12.   The field is on the right at the Grain
Silo.
Check the following web site for other relevant matters.
http://www.brooklynskyscrapers.org
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HOTELS:
Days Inn on 17M in Middletown, exit 3, east, off I-84.
845-374-2411.
Price approximately $70. Good quality. Closest to the field.
Global Budget Inn of America on 17M, also exit 3 off I-84.
845-374-3020.
Price between $50 - $60. Reasonable quality, though credit card
does not guarantee room with late arrival.
Holiday Inn at exit 4, east, off I-84, exit 122 off Highway 17.
845-343-1474.
Price approximately $90.
Hampton Inn at exit 4, east, off I-84, exit 122 off Highway 17.
845-343-3400.
Super 8 at exit 120 off Highway 17 (exit 4, west, off I-84).
845-692-5828.
Middletown Motel on Rt. 211, exit 120 off HWY 17 (exit 4 off I-84).
845-342-2535.
Price approximately $70.
Howard Johnsons Motel, Rt. 211, exit 120 off HWY 17.
There are also several Hotels at exits off I-84 to the
southwest (Port Jervis, exit 1) and northeast (Walden, exit 5),
each about 30 minutes from the field.
Plus a bed and breakfast in Warwick (at the intersection
of Route 1 and Route 94).
 
Rene Jossien
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Hi Roger,
Andre Schandel sent me a eulogy for Rene Jossien for me to translate 
and to be put into the SEN.
Thanks,  Peter
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On March 10, 2004 Rene Jossien passed away of heart failure at the age 
of 81. He was in the truest sense of the word an "extraordinary" man and 
this in multiple areas: poetry, painting, music, writing, fishing, and 
not in the last place free flight. In the 50's and 60's in France he was 
one of the leading men in Model Magazine and on the flying field. During 
these years he enticed more than a few people into free flight. He was 
several times French Champion and a member of the French Team. He 
developed a formula to determine the center of gravity for all classes 
            of free flight models. He brought to life the indoor event Sainte 
Formule and developed some airfoils. Since the founding of the Vol Libre 
magazine he contributed to nearly every issue. The "Golden Pen" in Vol 
Libre is his brain child - for which he even awarded a prize. 
Sensibility, humor, sensitivity, pride, the striving for perfection did 
not make him easy to understand - he was outside the norm. He was one of 
the great ones here in France, one of a circle that becomes smaller and 
smaller. His name shall live on in free flight!
Andre Schandel
 
BALTIC CUP  and Estonian CUP
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BALTIC CUP  and Estonian CUP  flown in Madziunai, Lithunia in nice weather.
Andres Lepp winner again after years!
regards Ossi Kilpelainen
BALTIC CUP 2004 2004 04 30
Open International Aeromodelling Contest - World Cup
Results
F1A
No Name CountryLic No I II III IV V FlyOff SUM
1 Andres Lepp EST EST-0027 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 1620
2 Vladyslav Lazarevych UKR UKR-220 180 180 180 180 180 300 275 1475
3 Matti Lihtamo FIN FIN-359 180 180 180 180 180 300 231 1431
4 Viesturrs Berzins (J) LAT 229 YL 180 180 180 180 180 300 229 1429
5 Rudolf Bichele (J) EST EST-0267 180 180 180 180 180 300 149 1349
6 Eldar Ahmetov (J) EST EST-0186 180 180 180 180 180 300 119 1319
7 Per Findahl SWE SWE-15125 180 180 180 180 180 258 1158
8 Kimmo Kulmakko FIN FIN-1212 180 180 180 180 180 220 1120
9 Vidas Dimavicius LTU LTU-137 180 180 180 180 180 206 1106
10 Anti Kordemets EST EST-0166 180 180 180 180 180 171 1071
11 Jari Valo FIN FIN-1654 180 180 180 180 180 160 1060
12 Tommi Isotalo FIN FIN-3655 180 180 180 180 180 128 1028
13 Ular Vihul EST EST-0070 180 180 180 180 180 99 999
14 Mantvydas Latvenas LTU LTU-345 178 180 180 180 180 898
15 Modestas Snukiskis(J) LTU LTU-342 180 180 180 157 180 877
16 Martin Meisalu (J) EST EST-0268 180 144 180 180 180 864
17 Sigitas Jakutis LTU LTU-081 180 180 143 180 180 863
18 Alar Mihhailov (J) EST EST-0199 180 138 180 180 180 858
19 Rimas Indrisonis LTU LTU-005 180 180 180 137 180 857
20 Teemu Taponen (J) FIN FIN-4517 180 180 180 136 180 856
21 Davis Berzins (J) LAT 231 YL 180 180 126 180 180 846
22 Gundars Abolins LAT 233 YL 180 180 180 180 125 845
23 Artur Parv (J) EST EST-0233 180 180 180 112 180 832
24 Tadas Matiejunas (J) LTU LTU-397 180 180 180 110 180 830
25 Janis Zarins (J) LAT 237 YL 180 141 180 142 180 823
26 Janar Sell (J) EST EST-0269 101 180 180 180 180 821
27 Janis Sprogis LAT 234 YL 180 180 180 180 97 817
28 Ardo Parna EST EST-0048 180 180 180 81 180 801
29 Kimmo Valkonen FIN FIN-4402 180 121 180 180 110 771
30 Petri Kuikka FIN FIN-2964 124 178 101 180 180 763
31 Oleg Stoev UKR UKR-268 142 180 180 180 66 748
32 Deniz Varhos SWE SWE-33987 180 138 180 79 95 672
33 Enno Puju EST EST-0183 180 74 180 180 58 672
34 Levchenko Dmitrij J) UKR UKR-440 180 73 180 180 54 667
35 Saulius Kiburtas (J) LTU LTU-399 44 180 81 152 180 637
36 Artis Kirsteins (J) LAT 250 YL 180 180 104 0 100 564
37 Ants Selgoja EST EST-0025 108 118 111 180 0 517
38 Valve Runnari FIN FIN-2284 50 97 180 76 108 511
39 Edgars Zvers (J) LAT 241 YL 0 88 112 119 180 499
40 Mihkel Joala (J) EST EST-0184 0 180 149 61 32 422
41 Arturs Brencs (J) LAT 243 YL 180 180 0 0 0 360
42 Renars Zvers (J) LAT 251 YL 0 180 0 180 0 360
F1B
1 Romanchenko Vladimir UKR UKR-229 180 180 180 180 180 300 294 1494
2 Rolandas Mackus LTU LTU-232 180 180 180 180 180 300 278 1478
3 Juhani Isotalo FIN FIN-3639 180 180 180 180 180 300 276 1476
4 Viktors Roshonoks LAT 006 YL 180 180 180 180 180 300 275 1475
5 David Thorsen SWE SWE-30719 180 180 180 180 180 300 262 1462
6 Yevhenii Horban UKR UKR-130 180 180 180 180 180 300 260 1460
7 Vadims Racko LAT 009 YL 180 180 180 180 180 285 1185
8 Laurynas Gircys (J) LTU LTU-327 180 180 180 180 180 260 1160
9 Klaus W. Salzer AUT 3200190031 180 180 172 180 180 892
10 Indrek Harjo EST EST-0050 170 180 180 180 180 890
11 Yrjo Waltonen FIN FIN-621 180 180 161 180 180 881
12 Teppo Sarpila FIN FIN-573 180 180 180 142 180 862
13 Justinas Adlys (J) LTU LTU-442 180 180 136 180 180 856
14 Viktor Starostenko UKR UKR-208 180 180 131 180 180 851
15 Janne Isotalo FIN FIN-3721 180 155 153 180 180 848
16 Renaldas Seinauskas(J)LTU LTU-339 180 124 180 180 180 844
17 Virginijus Ivancikas LTU LTU-325 180 180 92 180 180 812
18 Laimis Praniauskas LTU LTU-343 180 101 180 180 146 787
19 Marius Bliujus (J) LTU LTU-400 140 180 180 180 93 773
20 Rolf Seifert GER GER-253 49 180 180 180 180 769
21 Ossi Kilpelainen FIN FIN-275 123 180 96 180 180 759
22 Joukko Kakko (J) FIN FIN-4621 180 120 173 94 180 747
23 Rolandas Jasmontas LTU LTU-346 180 119 0 114 93 506
24 Antti Mantere FIN FIN-2687 180 0 0 180 0 360
F1C
1 Kaarle Kuukka FIN FIN-2651 180 180 180 180 180 300 307 1507
2 Juri Roots EST EST-0039 180 180 180 180 180 300 276 1476
3 Robertas Kiburtas LTU LTU-169 180 180 180 180 180 300 270 1470
4 Robertas Seinauskas LTU LTU-008 180 180 180 180 180 300 251 1451
5 Naaber Raimond EST EST-0038 180 180 180 180 180 163 1063
6 Arunas Grasys LTU LTU-283 180 170 180 180 180 890
7 Timo Niiranen FIN FIN-2673 180 180 131 126 180 797
8 Danas Babenskas LTU LTU-079 113 180 180 180 52 705
9 Claus Gretter GER GER-2784 112 180 131 180 97 700
10 Kari Lingren FIN FIN-704 180 146 135 180 0 641
11 Ilmars Briedaks LAT 228 YL 0 123 180 178 127 608
12 Roberts Brivnieks LAT 061 YL 102 108 136 0 0 346
Estonian CUP 2004 2004 05 01
Open International Aeromodelling Contest - World Cup
F1A
No Name Country Lic No I II III IV V FlyOff SUM
1 Rimas Indrisonis LTU- LTU-005 180 180 180 180 180 376 1276
2 Petri Kuikka FIN FIN-2964 180 180 180 180 180 314 1214
3 Per Findahl SWE SWE-15125 180 180 180 180 180 288 1188
            4 Levchenko Dmitrij(j)UKR UKR-440 180 180 180 180 180 271 1171
5 Vidas Dimavicius LTU LTU-137 180 180 180 180 180 267 1167
6 Romas Brazenas LTU LTU-144 180 180 180 180 180 209 1109
7 Gundars Abolins LAT 233 YL 180 180 180 180 180 208 1108
8 Janis Sprogis LAT 234 YL 180 180 180 180 180 187 1087
9 Eldar Ahmetov (J) EST EST-0186 180 180 180 180 180 148 1048
10 Viesturrs Berzins(J)LAT 229 YL 180 180 180 180 180 103 1003
11 Davis Berzins (J) LAT 231 YL 180 180 180 171 180 891
12 Ardo Parna EST EST-0048 180 180 180 160 180 880
13 Jari Valo FIN FIN-1654 160 180 180 180 180 880
14 Sigitas Jakutis LTU LTU-081 160 180 180 180 180 880
15 Edgars Zvers LAT 241 YL 180 157 180 180 180 877
16 Alar Mihhailov(J) EST EST-0199 180 180 142 180 180 862
17 Ular Vihul EST EST-0070 180 180 180 180 135 855
18 Matti Lihtamo FIN FIN-359 127 180 180 180 180 847
19 Oleg Stoev UKR UKR-268 180 112 180 180 180 832
20 Andres Lepp EST EST-0027 180 180 107 180 180 827
21 Kimmo Kulmakko FIN FIN-1212 180 180 104 180 180 824
22 Mihkel Joala(J) EST EST-0184 180 165 116 180 180 821
23 Vladyslav LazarevychUKR UKR-220 93 180 180 180 180 813
24 Deniz Varhos SWE SWE-33987 109 180 149 180 180 798
25 Anti Kordemets EST EST-0166 146 180 108 180 180 794
26 Martin Meisalu(j) EST EST-0268 68 180 180 180 180 788
27 Modestas Snukiskis(J)LTULTU-342 180 75 180 180 150 765
28 Janar Sell (J) EST EST-0269 180 180 82 132 180 754
29 Artur Parv (J) EST EST-0233 180 122 180 73 180 735
30 Tommi Isotalo FIN FIN-3655 180 180 78 113 180 731
31 Tadas Matiejunas(J)LTU LTU-397 180 180 45 180 108 693
32 Mantvydas LatvenasLTU LTU-345 35 157 180 180 126 678
33 Enno Puju EST EST-0183 130 180 180 59 117 666
34 Artis Kirsteins(J)LAT 250 YL 180 180 64 147 64 635
35 Rudolf Bichele(J) EST EST-0267 72 180 94 105 180 631
36 Janis Zarins (J) LAT 237 YL 118 180 83 40 180 601
37 Valve Runnari FIN FIN-2284 180 160 95 63 75 573
38 Teemu Taponen(J) FIN FIN-4517 144 38 58 180 0 420
39 Arturs Brencs (J) LAT 243 YL 40 117 0 63 129 349
40 Kimmo Valkonen FIN FIN-4402 134 112 0 0 0 246
41 Saulius Kiburtas(J)LTU LTU-399 69 95 23 0 0 187
42 Ants Selgoja EST EST-0025 70 0 0 0 0 70
43 Renars Zvers (J) LAT 251 YL 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1B
1 Rolandas Mackus LTU LTU-232 180 180 180 180 180 338 1238
2 Viktors Roshonoks LAT 006 YL 180 180 180 180 180 316 1216
3 Virginijus Ivancikas LTU-325 180 180 180 180 180 285 1185
4 Janne Isotalo FIN FIN-3721 180 180 180 180 180 269 1169
5 David Thorsen SWE SWE-30719 180 180 180 180 180 240 1140
6 Laimis PraniauskasLTU LTU-343 163 180 180 180 180 883
7 Laurynas Gircys(J)LTU LTU-327 180 180 180 180 162 882
8 Juhani Isotalo FIN FIN-3639 169 180 180 172 180 881
9 Viktor StarostenkoUKR UKR-208 156 180 180 180 180 876
10 Yrjo Waltonen FIN FIN-621 180 180 143 180 180 863
11 Rolf Seifert GER GER-253 180 138 180 180 180 858
12 Renaldas Seinauskas(J)LTU-339 160 180 157 180 180 857
13 Indrek Harjo EST EST-0050 180 180 180 125 180 845
14 Klaus W. Salzer AUT 3200190031 179 180 180 180 116 835
15 Vadims Racko LAT 009 YL 114 180 180 180 180 834
16 Ossi Kilpelainen FIN FIN-275 180 180 180 180 113 833
17 Rolandas JasmontasLTU LTU-346 180 180 139 142 170 811
18 Antti Mantere FIN FIN-2687 180 86 180 180 180 806
19 Yevhenii Horban UKR UKR-130 180 180 180 70 180 790
20 Marius Bliujus(J) LTU LTU-400 152 180 155 122 147 756
21 Teppo Sarpila FIN FIN-573 180 180 98 180 117 755
22 Justinas Adlys (J)LTU LTU-442 180 180 180 97 84 721
23 Joukko Kakko (J) FIN FIN-4621 180 80 0 0 0 260
24 Romanchenko VladimirUKR UKR-229 156 0 0 0 0 156
F1C
1 Juri Roots EST EST-0039 180 180 180 180 180 339 1239
2 Timo Niiranen FIN FIN-2673 180 180 180 180 180 322 1222
3 Claus Gretter GER GER-2784 180 180 180 180 180 251 1151
4 Naaber Raimond EST EST-0038 180 180 180 180 180 224 1124
5 Ilmars Briedaks LAT 228 YL 180 180 180 180 180 185 1085
6 Kaarle Kuukka FIN FIN-2651 180 180 180 175 180 895
7 Robertas SeinauskasLTU LTU-008 180 180 180 180 149 869
8 Arunas Grasys LTU LTU-283 134 180 180 180 162 836
9 Danas Babenskas LTU LTU-079 180 180 89 108 180 737
10 Kari Lingren FIN FIN-704 180 153 180 180 0 693
11 Robertas Kiburtas LTU LTU-169 174 180 180 0 0 534
12 Roberts Brivnieks LAT 061 YL 0 163 0 0 0 163
NFFS Discussion 
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Hi Roger,
I'd like to let SEN readers know that I've installed new discussion software
on the NFFS web site that is a major improvement over the old MS software.
One of the nice things about it is that images can be posted along with
text. I would like to invite fliers interested in discussion regarding FAI
events and technical topics to the new forum.
Thanks,
Alan
ody
Alan Petersen
www.apetersenpaintings.com
 
Buy Tech and Jrs.
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So, what happens in a few years, when the present crop of Jr. FAI sportsmen 
are no longer financed/supplied model parts by parents?  Will they be able to, 
or even want to buy new parts?  Will they be able to repair high tech crashes? 
 How many of current crop going to WC can build *any*  AMA-level models? Or 
how 'bout just a Gollywock, a Starduster, or HLG?  
Mark Bennett
 
F1C Items
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 Roger, would you please post the following on sen?
 I have some F1C items for sale.
  1 New almost finished Achterberg 100" 6 panel model.
  1 Brand new VE 15 standard drive engine. (Latest version)
  4 Used VE15 standard drive engines.
  Plus some other assorted parts.
They are part of Bob Waterman's collection. If interested, please 
contact me at  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  for specifics.
Thanks, Bob Gutai
Paper tubes
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It's not clear ( to me, anyhow ) what purpose
M. Seagrave's tubes will serve. ...Mike S....
I hope I've got the right guy !
We used to make the tube by hand, the hands held horizontally,
with index and middle fingers of each hand held in apposition
- the middle fingers touching.
The thumb, then, is free to translate vertically ..
The paper tube, happily, is formed in the horizontal grove
formed by the fingers, the thumbs effecting a rolling usually in
one durection.
Rolling stops when the edge of the paper appears.
The tongue, having been preparing for this event the while,
presents his tip, moisture just so, to the edge of the paper.
One final roll, and the finished tube is brought forward with a
gesture of studied elan !
The paper of choice was ZigZag..
Brokenspar
Big Al's
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Hi Roger,
Please include the below information in your next SCAT web page.
Thanks, Walt
Several flyers have asked if I could arrange a second day of FAI flying at
the Bissonnette Memorial for Team Finals qualifying.  On Sunday, may 30th we
will have a qualifying contest for F1A, F1B and F1C.  The two rounds of the
"Big Al's Shootout" will be round 1 and 2.  The next five flights must be
completed by12 noon with no rounds being used.  The flight times from "Big
Al's Shootout" will be used to determine the winners.  The entry fee if $5
per event and the winner will take the total entry for each event.  This is
all with in the Team Selection program as we have a sanction and separate
contest each day.  Contact Walt Ghio @ 209-478-8225, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. if
you have any questions. 
AUSTRALIAN FREE FLIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS
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NARRANDERA 2004
FULL COMPETITION RESULTS
COMBINED % OPEN FRIDAY 9 APRIL
1st	Mikhail Kochkarev	F1A	100	100	100	300	177.2
2nd	Bill Pudney		F1B	100	100	100	300	145.6
3rd	Karen Kenmir		P30	100	100	100	300	141.7
4th	Rob Wallace		F1A	100	100	100	300	136.1
5th	George Car		O/R	100	100	100	300	135.6
6th	Terry Bond		F1G	100	100	100	300	131.7
7th	Phil Mitchell		F1H	100	100	100	300	130.8
8th	Brian Van Nest		F1A	100	100	100	300	121.1
9th	Dave Hegarty		V/R	100	100	100	300	 90.0
10th	Stan Hinds		F1J	100	100	100	300	 86.7
11th	Mike Thomas		F1A	100	100	100	300	 42.8
12th	Roy Summersby	F1J	100	100	100	300	     0
12th	Craig King		F1A	100	100	100	300	   DNF
14th	Col Collyer		O/P	100	  81	100	281
15th	Peter Nash		F1J	  84	100	  83	267
16th	Jeremy Woolley	F1A	100	100	  36	236
17th	Col Somers		F1G	  93	  41  	  94	228
18th	Des Slattery		F1J	  52	100	  66	218
19th	Ted Woolley		F1B	  63	  41	100	204
19th	Col Williamson		P30	100	100	    4	204
21st	Graham Maynard	O/R	100	  91	    0	191
22nd	Malcolm Campbell	F1G	  48	  47	  64	159
23rd	Paul Rossiter		F1B	  52	  56	  43	151
24th	Jon Fletcher		O/P	100	  10	  35	145
SCALE FRIDAY 9 APRIL
1st	Stan Hinds	Bristol Scout
2nd	Phil Mitchell	BAC Drone
3rd	Tahn Stowe	Miles
4th	George Car	Nesmith Cogar
5th	Dennis Parker	Dauntless
6th	Than Stowe	PM31
7th	Col Williamson ??
RUSS HAMMOND MEMORIAL DUSK SCRAMBLE FRIDAY 9 APRIL 
1st 	Terry Bond		2108		
2nd 	Tahn Stowe		1931
3rd	Phil Mitchell		1855
4th	Dave Hegarty		1383
F1A SATURDAY 10 APRIL
1st	Mikhail Kochkarev	RUS	0170  180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1260
					Flyoff 300 420
2nd	Lee Hines		USA	7334  180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1260
					Flyoff 300 375
3rd 	Phil Mitchell		AUS	12594 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1260
					Flyoff 300 359
4th	Brian Van Nest		USA	23122 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1260
					Flyoff 300 323
5th	Antony Koerbin	NZL 	AM17 180 180 180 180 180 180 180  1260
					Flyoff 300 223
6th	Rob Wallace		NZ	AM19  180 180 180 180 180 180 175 1255
7th	Nickolay Nickalov	AUS	55663	180 171 180 180 180 180 180 1251
8th	Craig King		NZ	AM15	180 180 180 152 180 180 180 1232
9th	Mike Thomas		AUS	17192	180 180 134 180 180 180 180 1214
10th	William McGarvey	NZL	AM16  180 180 180 180 180 126 180 1206
11th	Vin Morgan		AUS 	19046	 92 180 180 180 180 180 180 1172
12th	Vera Lacey		AUS	5697   180 180 180 180 180 180   47 1127
13th	Henning Nyhegn		DEN 	1901   180 176 180 180 180 180   47 1123
14th	Martin Williams		AUS	20702	162 151 167 180 180 180   77 1097
15th	Jeremy Woolley		AUS	39083	180 180 106 180 180 180   81   989
16th	Brett Mitchell (JR)	AUS	38150  89 149   20 135 180 180 180   933
17th	Moira Vincent		NZL	AM24  99   87   81 180 180 180   0   807
18th	Malcolm Campbell	AUS	52060 126   93   75   87 167   75 131   754
19th	Tahn Stowe		AUS	3184	168 180 166     0     0     0     0   514
20th	Lincoln Vincent		NZL	AM18    31   59 103     0     0     0     0   193
OPEN RUBBER SATURDAY 10 APRIL
1st	Paul Rossiter		180	180	180	540	500
2nd	Peter Sikora		180	180	180	540	348
3rd	Dennis Parker		180	180	180	540	261
4th	Graham Maynard		180	180	180	540	234
5th	John Lewis		180	180	180	540	214
6th	Malcolm Campbell	180	180	180	540	199
7th	George Car		180	180	180	540	190
8th	Col Williamson		180	180	180	540	134
9th	Col Collyer		180	180	180	540	 86
10th	Karen Kenmir		160	180	180	480
11th	Sergio Montes		160	126	180	466
12th	Col Somers		180	180	  90	450
13th	Ted Woolley		180	  77	180	437
OPEN POWER SATURDAY 10 APRIL
1st	Col Collyer		180	180	180	540	340
2nd	Peter Nash		180	180	180	540	282
3rd	Jon Fletcher		180	180	180	540	227
4th	Roy Summersby		180	180	158	518
5th 	Dennis Parker		180	180	110	470
6th 	Des Slattery		  73	  65 	180 	318
7th	Col Somers		  87	180	    0	267
P30 SATURDAY 10 APRIL
1st	Vin Morgan		120	120	120	360	207
2nd	Paul Rossiter		120	120	120	360	205
3rd	Nicholas Kuilder	120	120	120	360	168
4th	Terry Bond		120	120	120	360	140
5th	Tahn Stowe		120	120	120	360	133
6th	Leigh Morgan		120	120	120	360	 91
7th	Col Williamson		120	120	116	356
8th	Roy Summersby		105	120	120	345
9th	George Car		102	120	120	342
10th	Karen Kenmir		120	120	  28	268	
11th	Suzanne Hegarty		120	120	    0     240
F1B SUNDAY 11 APRIL
1st	Terry Bond		AUS 3107 180 180 180 180 180 180 180  1260	
       Flyoff	300  292
2nd	Peter Sikora		AUS 49403 180 180 180 180 180 180 180  1260
					Flyoff	300  247
3rd	John Lewis		AUS 8019 180 180 180 180 180 180 180  1260
					Flyoff	300  224
4th	Percy Wright		AUS 42333 180 180 180 180 180 180 180  1260
					Flyoff	300  199
5th	Ladi Horak		CAN 23028 180 180 180 180 180 180 180  1260
					Flyoff	300  27
6th	Leigh Morgan		AUS 48321 180 180 164 180 180 180 180  1244
7th	Brian Van Nest		USA 23122 180 180 180 161 180 180 180  1241
8th	Karen Kenmir		AUS 58548 180 173 180 165 180 177 180  1235
9th	Richard Blackam		AUS 8740 180 180 180 180 150 180 180  1230
10th	Paul Rossiter		AUS 20577 180 180 180 165 180 161 180  1226
11th	David Lacy		AUS 1771 180 135 180 180 114 180 180  1149
12th	Bill Pudney		AUS 15512 180 180 180   48 180 180 180  1128
13th	Lincoln Vincent		NZL AM18 157 180 165 155   95 110 180  1042
14th	George Car		AUS 40655 124 120 180 145 180     0     0    749 
15th	Ted Woolley		AUS 39191 175 139   67   79   73   82   56    664
F1C SUNDAY 11 APRIL
1st	Jon Fletcher		AUS 15525 180 180 180 180 180 180 180  1260
					Flyoff 90
2nd	Bill East		AUS	2995    180 180 180 180 180 180 180  1260
					Flyoff 0
3rd	Roy Summersby		AUS	2153    162 180 180 175 180 180 180  1237
4th	Peter Nash		AUS	1693	180 180 180 169 180 160 180  1229
5th	Steve Rothwel	l	AUS	12940	180 176 180 178   89 180 166  1149
6th	Stan Hinds		AUS	6678	180 163 180   37 180 180 180  1100
7th	Henning Nyhegn		DEN	1901	    0    0    0  157 180 149 161    547	
VINTAGE GLIDER SUNDAY 11 APRIL
1st	Brett Mitchell		1954 Nebula		180	180	180	540	343
2nd	Col Collyer		1952 Mantis		180	180	180	540	248
3rd 	Phil Mitchell		1954 Nebula		180	180	180	540	238
4th	Vin Morgan		1953 Seraph		180	177	180	537
5th	Des Slattery		1950 Odenmans’	177	180	166	523
6th	Malcolm Campbell 	1953 Seraph		104	180	180	464
7th	Tahn Stowe		1944 Stormwind	  62	  68 	  73	203
VINTAGE RUBBER SUNDAY 11 APRIL
1st	Col Collyer		1948 Lamb High Climber	180	180	180	540
2nd	Col Williamson 		1937 Lanzo			180	180	143	503
3rd	Dennis Parker		1940 Lanzo Stik 		180	180	112	472
4th	Jim Christie		1941 Gollywock		180	180	    0	360
5th	Nicholas Kuilder 	1950 Senator			113	  78	148	339
6th	George Car		1941 Lamb Climber		185	    0	    0	185
7th	Col Somers		1950 Pogo Stick		  17	    0	    0	  17
VINTAGE POWER SUNDAY 11 APRIL
1st	Peter Lloyd		1954 Zoot Suit			155	144	180	479
2nd	Col Somers		1953 Stomper			122	  93	180	395
3rd	Col Collyer		1953 Stomper			  81	  78	180	339
4th	Dennis Parker		1953 Stomper			  39	  75	  39	153
5th	Des Slattery		??				  70	    0	    0	  70					
OZ DIESEL SUNDAY 11 APRIL
1st	Roy Summersby	120	120	  87	120	120	567
2nd	Des Slattery		120	  92	120	120	113	565
3rd	Malcolm Campbell	  98	  69	120	  95	  86	468
4th	Steve Rothwell		120	  13	    0   	    0	    0	133
5th	Col Somers		  78	  28	    0	    0	    0	106
6th	George Car		  69	    5	    0	    0   	    0	  74
7th	Graham Maynard	  44	    0	    0	    0	    0	  44
F1H MONDAY 12 APRIL
1st	Phil Mitchell		120	120	120	120	120	600	198
2nd	Brian Van Nest		120	120	120	120	120	600	180
3rd	Mikhail Kochkarev	120	120	120	120	120	600	   0
4th	Mike Thomas		109	120	120	120	120	589
5th	Jeremy Woolley	120	  71	120	120	120	551
6th	Des Slattery		  73	  93	120	120  	  43	449
7th	Malcolm Campbell	  48	120 	120 	  41	  54	383
8th	Moira Vincent		105	  37	  59	120	  59	380
9th	George Car		  69	  38	  74	   0	  74	255
F1G MONDAY 12 APRIL
1st	Paul Rossiter		120	120	120	120	120	600	144
2nd	Jim Christie		120	120	120	120	120	600	DNF
2nd	Col Williamson		120	120	120	120	120	600	DNF
4th	Malcolm Campbell	120	117	120	120	120	597
5th	Sergio Montes		  59	119	115	120	115	528
6th	John Lewis		120	104	  77	120 	105	526
7th	Terry Bond		  97	120 	  89	120	  72	498
F1J MONDAY 12 APRIL
1st	Roy Summersby		120	120	120	120	120	600	??	
2nd	Stan Hinds		120	120	120	120	120	600	??
3rd	Des Slattery		  20	  79	120 	120 	  63	339
4th	Col Somers		  52	   7	  71	  50	  80	260
HLG MONDAY 12 APRIL
1st	Craig King		60	50	42	60	60	60	332
2nd	Len Surtees		41	40	60	60	60	33	294
3rd	Lee Hines		43	42	27	60	32	60	163
4th	Brett Mitchell 		59	09	13	15	22	51	132
5th	Phil Mitchell		38	60	33	27	27	26	131
6th	Tahn Stowe		27	40	36	23	21	02	103
7th	Martin Williams		18	19	26	19	06	17	  64
8th	Peter Lloyd		20	16	  0	  0	  0	  0	  36
CLG MONDAY 12 APRIL
1st	Lee Hines		60	48	60	60	60	60	348	
2nd	Tahn Stowe		42	15	31	60	60	60	268
3rd	Roy Summersby		60 	60	56	60	  0	  0	236
4th 	Dave Hegarty		53	60	60	09	11	38	173
5th	Kathy Rossiter		60	38	60	29	40	31	160
6th	Len Surtees		60	27	39	02	36	60	159
7th	Nicholas Kuilder	60	44	35	41	39	34	145
8th	Phil Mitchell		34	46	30	24	60	25	140
9th	Leigh Morgan		40	27	52	47	17	22	139
10th	Suzanne Hegarty	35	07	37	03	  0	  0	  79
11th	Mike Thomas		22	20	18	20	18	32	  74
AUSTRALIAN FREE FLIGHT CHAMPION 2004  :  PHIL MITCHELL		
2004 Spring Cup -Texas
======================
 Spring Cup Seguin Results
The weather Saturday morning was good except for the fact that the wind had not decided on a direction. The middle of the field was very wet which meant that we had to stay on the runways, which severely limited the useable field in any direction. Once t
e wind finally took a ?set? the direction was not good. After several delays, and three moves we called it a day after five rounds. Everyone worked very hard to get their flights in and almost all of the flights in rounds 4 and 5 went off the field. We e
ded the day with three clean in Open Gas and two in F1C. F1C will be decided at a later date.
On Sunday we held the fly off in Open gas at 7AM and all the people were off the field in three minutes. Round one of the Mini events started at 8 sharp with a stiff NE breeze. Six people had put in flights when the torrential rains hit at about 8:30. We
waited until about 11AM and a lull in the rain to get everyone packed up and off the field. Fortunately no one got stuck, but the mini events were washed out and have been rescheduled for the Tri-City 23rd Annual on 5 June, starting at 0800. Thanks to ev
ryone that attended (we had 24 contestants) and we hope for better weather next year.
F1A (3 Flew)
1. Steve Spence           118   120    90   120   120   568
2. Mike Fedor             120   120    90    96   120   546
3. Mike Reeves            120     44                   164
F1B (3 Flew)
1. Eddie Vanlandingham    120   120    90   120   120   570
2. Dick Wood              120   111    90   120   115   556
3. Jim Bradley            120   120    21     16        277
F1C (3 Flew)
1. Henry Spence           120   120    90   120   120   570
1. Reid Simpson           120   120    90   120   120   570
3. Faust Parker           120   120    90    47         377
Open Power (8 Flew)
1. Jackie Sheffer   120   120    90   120   120   192   762
2. Mark Troutman    120   120    90   120   120   127   697
3 Bob Hanford       120   120    90   120   120     0   570
P-30 (4 Flew)
1. John O?Dwyer                 120   120   120   150   510
2. Bob Hanford Sr.              120   120   120   139   499
3. Jim Thornton                 115   120   120         355
Faust Parker
Contest Director
Paper tubes
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Roger,
I'm not sure for what application the paper tubes are to be used.  However, 
for short lengths of paper tubes, the standard method used by Indoor flyers is 
to start with a length of music wire of the desired diameter (2 mm MW is 
readily available).  The glue of choice is Ambroid and the paper is good ol' 
Japanese tissue.  Cut the tissue so that the grain of the rolled tube will be 
aligned with its length.   Make a dry roll of the tissue on the wire to see how
 much 
is needed to make 3 - 5 rotations.  Glue one end of the tissue to the wire 
and let it partially dry.  Then smear some more glue on the loose end of the 
tissue and spin the wire with one hand while holding the tissue against the wir
e 
with the thumb and forefinger of the other hand.  As soon as the tube is 
rolled and while the glue is still sticky, push the tube off the wire with your
 
fingernail onto a sheet of food-wrap plastic  (The solvent in the glue will 
soften the initially glued paper to wire).  Let it dry competely overnight.  To
 
trim the ends of the dried tube, replace it on the music wire and roll it under
 a 
razor blade.    Tubes up to about one inch in length may be made by this 
technique.   If you make a lot of tubes at one time you can again enjoy biting 
the 
excess dried glue off your fingers and spitting it out.
To make fiberglass tubes, coat the wire with candle wax.  Use slow-drying 
epoxy and lightweight cloth (0.6 oz/yd).  Give the waxed wire a coat of epoxy a
nd 
spiral wind the cloth as tightly as you can over the glued portion.  Multiple 
layers of cloth.  Cut some Saran Wrap (original) into tape about 1/2" wide 
and spiral wrap over the cloth/epoxy/waxed wire.  Place in the oven set at abou
t 
150-180 degrees F for one-half hour.  Heat causes the Saran Wrap to shrink 
and make the fiberglass conform to the wire size as the epoxy cures at an 
accelerated rate. 
It's a bit of a problem to remove the fiberglass tube from the wire, however. 
  Also, the Saran Wrap is weakend and fragile.  I just sand off the excess 
wrap (it only adheres to the epoxy by electrostatic attraction). Cut the excess
 
fiberglass from the ends as for the paper tubes above.  Warm the wire again to 
loosen up the wax and slide off the fiberglass tube (it may take some 
twisting with a pliers to break minor adhesions first).
For both techiques, the chances of success are best with short lengths.
Chuck Markos
Concorde's last flight
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Last fall, I was very fortunate to be in London, close to Thames river, when
three Concordes passed by in the blue sky with a gorgeous sun. They were
about to land at Heathrow for their last flight.
Every one had a tear in his eyes. I will never forget this magical sight,
pure expression of human genius.
Bernard B.
Paper tubes
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A very well known method is to cut a strip of tissue, preferably porous as
Modelspan, then sature it with balsa cement (UHU-Hart) and roll it on a
suitable diameter piano wire.
When the external layer has started to dry, push gently the tube with a nail
and let it dry apart.
Bernard B.
 
Re: [ciam-com-l] Dr. BENEDEK
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Dear Andras,
A true giant of the Model Aircraft world has  left us.
On behalf of CIAM, I offer my sincere condolences on
the passing away of Dr. Gyorgy Benedek to his family,
the Hungarian Association of Modellers,and his many
friends around the world.
Through the innumerable Model Aircraft that have flown,
do fly and will fly in the future using his airfoils his memory
and his achievements will always be with us.
With kind regards,
Sandy Pimenoff
President, CIAM
Thanks
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Thanks to Aram Schlosberg for his donation in support of SEN
.........................
Roger Morrell