SEN 772- January 12 2003

News and Reports 2003
SCAT Electronic News 12 January 2003 issue 772


Table of Contents
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Free Flight Dreaming - Coussens
AmCup Final Results and Report - Parker, Coussens and Parker
Source for Mathis's Bounty Hunter - Fedor
F1P event down South - Wilkinson
F1C Stuff for Sale - Laffler
Making a Post on SEN - and Bounty Hunter Info - Ramirez
Note to dieseldon: - Kruse
Pitch your blades - King
F1P Program Feedback - Biggles
F1P Plans Available - Morris
Diesel F1J Flier, contact
Bounty Hunting
F1Ping - Lobiecki
F1P in contest - Simpson
Adobe
Thanks

Free Flight Dreaming
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To all Freeflighters that have been waiting for another
opportunity to fly in a contest just to see how your airplane thermals
above you while you reel up your towline, get on your motorcycle, or
clean the gas of you hands from the previous launch. Its been a while
since We have dragged out that trailer and strapped on the old dirty
motorcycle for another venture at the field. I have missed hearing the
sound of geared motors screaming into the sky, the sound of Steve Spence
giving it what for as he launches his Stamov model 40 feet off the
towline, and the sound of all those props starting at the end of their
intended delay. I have missed the sight of people flapping on their
motorcycles trying in one last desperate attempt to burst something loose
on that desolate ground to raise their airplane into that blue sky. I'm
Thrilled to be able to start taking out those towlines and stretching
them just to feel as though your slightly involved in free flight without
actually competing. I thought after participating in the Jr. World
Champs I would appreciate a nice break from the sport. Fortunately it has
had the completely opposite affect. I can't stay away from it. I just
count down the days until the first contest of the year in Arizona. I'm
sure there are more of you that think like me out there. People who just
consider themselves so fortunate to be able to be involved in a sport as
incredible as freeflight. To all of those who think like me, i salute
you!

Fly max win
Ben Coussens


AmCup Final Results and Report
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2002 America's Cup

This year lacked none of the excitement and suspense of previous years,
and consistent with the history of America's Cup, excellence was the key to
even making the top five in all six events. In five of the events,
at least one win was required for even 5th place, and in allevents, three
to four victories were required to take the Cup home.

In F1A, Brian Van Nest and Steve Spence were at it right out of the chute,
taking spectacular wins early on. They see-sawed back and forth until the
end of the year, when Brian sealed it at the Arizona Champs for his second
year in a row. Third-place Martyn Cowley once again mounted his late season
charge, scoring his first points in October. He nearly took it all but for
a 1-second deficit in the 7-min fly-off round to Brian at the Arizona Champs.
Don Zink put in a year of steady performances to tie Martyn for third, and
Tzvetan Tzvetkov, scoring in nine contests, placed fifth.

This year in Wakefield, perennial Bent-Box award winner Dick Wood traveled
about the country, scoring in 15 contests! His main complaint is when contest
dates are simultaneous, and he can't fly at all of them! This year,
perseverance paid off handsomely, in the winning of the Cup by 4 points
over John Clapp, who mastered the eastern contest sites for second place.
Recently retired and now starting travel the circuit, Walt Ghio put in some
brilliant performances to take third, while John Sessums won fourth,
including a win at the Magnificent Mountain Men, a very tough venue indeed!
Bob Piserchio went on a tear after his successful performances in Hungary
and France to take fifth place.

FAI power is never without its excitement, just watching those engineering
marvels gain hundreds of feet in five seconds. Bob Gutai drove the wheels off
his van, traveling all over the country and scoring in 10 contests. He
required four victories to squeak past second place winner Faust Parker by
one point! This makes two years in a row for Bob. Henry Spence joins his
son Steve once again on the podium with a solid third place with 2 victories
and 2 second-place finishes, beating Doug Joyce also by only one point.
Andrei Kirilenko was close behind for fifth place, winning two contests in
the process.

The mini-events have become more hotly contested in recent years, usually
by former or current open event fliers, and all three events this year have
born this out.

In F1G Coupe, seventeen finishes of fifth or better including four firsts
left Dick Wood one point short of victory, as Tom Ioerger became champion
with four victories and one second-place finish, all on bonus points. Well
back was Ralph Cooney, still a solid performance with three victories,
leading fourth place winner Jack Emery by just one point. Fifth place was
won by sometime glider-guy Peter Brocks.

F1H was by far the hottest event this year. Martyn Cowley was bound and
determined to get the cup back and resume his place at the top of the hill,
in a solid performance over the entire year. He was only one point ahead of
2001 winner Bob Sifleet until putting it away at the Arizona Champs. Bob
finished second. Third place winner was Mike McKeever, who has gotten back
into free flight with a vengeance. The three top finishers shared eleven first
place finishes! Fourth place was a tie between east-coaster Vic Nipper
and Brian Van Nest, both of whom requiring big firsts get there.

Bob Gutai made it a sweep as Champion of F1J power, besting three
outstanding finishes by second-place winner Ed Carroll. Norm Poti's two
first places and one second brought home third, while Texan F1C power
maverick Faust Parker took fourth place. Perennial east coast flyer Jean
Pailet brought home fifth with four second-place finishes, a very respectable
performance indeed!

The honor of placing in the Top Five and the honor of Champion will be
celebrated at the America's Cup banquet on Saturday, 15 February at the Wasco
Valley Rose Country Club. As usual, signup for the banquet is via entry to
the 2003 MaxMen / George Batiuk. See SEN Jan8 2003, issue 770 for entry
form / AmCup Banquet sign up. This year the main course will be stuffed pork
chops. Please contact Jim Parker if you prefer a veggy
plate or chicken.

Thermals, Tom Coussens and Jim Parker

P.S. Anyone that tosses their MA magazine, Please bring Feb 2003 copies to Los
t Hills. We need the 2002 Slovika Jr W.C. articles for grandparents and other
potential Jr FAI families.




America Cup results - with individual placings

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 16 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 32 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 19 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
EFF 6 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
SCT 6 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 9 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
NWF 4 NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
FFA -x- FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 10 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 16 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
TCC 5 Texas Cloud Climbers, Allen TX
McL 5 McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
IFA 6 Intercity FAI Muncie, IN
MMM 7 MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
HC 8 Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO 25 US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
ESF 4 Empire State FF Champs, NY
AFA 5 Chicago Aeronuts-Muncie, IN
WFA -X- Western FAI Challenge- Harts Lake, WA
CC 9 Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
DC 2 Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CFA 20 Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
SC 16 Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC -X- S.W. FAI Challenge, LasVegas, NV
SkA 13 Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
ACT 4 Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
USF 13
PC 24 Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC 9 Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI 0 King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1A
1 VanNest, Brian 107 SWR-1 MMM-1 CC-2 USF-3* PC-1 AZC-4*
2 Spence, Steve 106 MM-1 SCT-1 TCC-1 McL-4* ACT-1
3 Cowley, Martyn 104 CFA-1 SC-1 USF-2 AZC-2
3 Zink, Don 104 SCA-2 USO-1 SC-2 USF-5* PC-2 AZC-3*
5 McKever, Mike 97 MM-4* NCA-3* NWF-1 CFA-2 USF-4* PC-3 AZC-1
6 Sifleet, Bob 95 IFA-1 HC-2 USO-5* AFA-1 CC-5* SkA-2
7 Tzvetkov,Tzvetan 94 EFF-2 Sky-3* IFA-2* HC-3* USO-3 ESF-1 AFA-4* SkA-1
8 Barron, Andrew 69 EFF-1 Sky-1 IFA-3
9 Brun, Pierre 64 SCA-3 NWF-2 BAl-2 CFA-3*
10 Erguner, Omer 61 EFF-3 Sky-4 ESF-2 SkA-4
11 Coussens, Tom 58 SWR-2 CFA-4 SC-3
12 Terzian, Fred 52 SCA-1 NCA-4 PC-5
13 Hines, Lee 51 NCA-5 BAl-3 MMM-3 SC-5
13 Schlosberg, Aram 51 Sky-2 IFA-5 ESF-3 SkA-5
13 Sheffer, Jackie 51 SCT-2 TCC-4 ACT-2
16 Markos, Chuck 47 AFA-2 CC-1
16 Parker, Jim 47 SWR-3 USF-1
18 Lenartowicz, C 43 HC-1 CC-3
19 Jones, Tom 40 USO-2 AFA-3
20 Diez, Hector 38 SWR-5 BAl-4 PC-4
21 McQuade, Pete 36 MMM-4 DC-1
21 Schelp, Jon(Jr) 36 SCT-4 McL-3 ACT-4
23 Parker, Dallas (Jr) 34 SWR-4 MM-3
24 Limberger, Rene* 32 MM-5 NCA-2
25 Fedor, Mike 31 SCT-3 USO-4
26 Brocks, K Peter 29 BAl-5 MMM-5 SC-4
26 Clark, Dean* 29 BAl-1
28 Smith,Norm 27 NCA-1
29 Shepard, Jesse jr 26 SCT-5 TCC-2
30 Allnutt, Peter 25 MM-2
30 Barron,John (Jr) 25 Sky-5 SkA-3
30 Bradley, Jim 25 McL-1
33 Davis, Jon 21 MMM-2
34 Leath, Don 20 McL-2
34 Reeve, Mike 20 TCC-5 ACT-3
34 Smitz, Willard 20 DC-2
37 Butt, Jeff 15 TCC-3
37 Kozlyuk, Dimitro 15 SCA-4
39 Horak, Ladislav 12 CC-4
40 Boiadjien, Todor 11 HC-4
40 Fradkin, Igor* 11 EFF-4
40 Thornbery, Jim 11 IFA-4
43 Bauer, Ken 10 CFA-5
43 Coussens, Ben(Jr) 10 SCA-5
43 Fags, Kevork 10 ESF-4
43 Lane, Robert 10 NWF-3
47 Farkas, Leslie 6 HC-5
47 Revkin, Josh(Jr) 6 EFF-5
49 Avollone, Michael(Jr) 5 McL-5
49 Scharb, Bill 5 AFA-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 15 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 40 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 9 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
EFF 7 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
SCT 2 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 4 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
NWF 6 NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
FFA -x- FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 10 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 14 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
TCC 4 Texas Cloud Climbers, Allen TX
McL 5 McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
IFA 15 Intercity FAI Muncie, IN
MMM 6 MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
HC 8 Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO 25 US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
ESF 5 Empire State FF Champs, NY
AFA 7 Chicago Aeronuts-Muncie, IN
WFA 5 Western FAI Challenge- Harts Lake, WA
CC 12 Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
DC 1 Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CFA 22 Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
SC 17 Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC -X- S.W. FAI Challenge, LasVegas, NV
ska 7 Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
ACT 2 Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
USF 7
PC 18 Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC 0 Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI 0 King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1B
1 Wood, Dick 98 SCA-4* SCT-1 BAl-2 TCC-3* McL-1 MMM-2* HC-5* USO-4* ESF-2* AFA-5* DC-1 ska-3* USF-5* AZC-3*
2 Clapp, John 94 EFF-2 Sky-2 HC-1 ESF-1 USF-3*
3 Ghio, Walt 92 NCA-1 BAl-4* TCC-1 MMM-3* CC-3 SC-5* PC-1
4 Sessums, John 90 SWR-3 MM-2 SCA-3* MMM-1 CFA-3 USF-4*
5 Piserchio, Bob 88 SWR-4 SCA-5* CFA-1 SC-2 PC-3
6 Crowley, Paul 82 SWR-2 BAl-3 IFA-3 HC-4* AFA-2
11 Fitch, Jerry 56 SCA-1 SC-1
7 McGlashan, Jerry 72 EFF-3 IFA-4 ESF-3 CC-1 ska-4*
8 Morrell, Roger 66 SCA-2 NCA-3 CFA-4 SC-4
9 Jones, Charles 65 Sky-3 CC-2 ska-1
10 Pearce, Fred 60 SCT-2 TCC-2 ACT-2
12 Biedron, Bob* 52 EFF-4 Sky-4 IFA-1
13 Andriukov, Alex 50 CFA-2 PC-2
14 Cooney, Ralph 46 NWF-1 WFA-4 CFA-5
15 Jensen, Blake 44 WFA-1 SC-3
16 Wang, Lee (Jr) 43 EFF-1 Sky-5 WFA-4
17 Shailor, Bill 41 USO-1 AFA-3
18 Wiley, Ed 35 TCC-4 ACT-1
19 Avollone,Anthony 32 McL-2 CC-4
20 Luken, Jim 30 MM-1
21 Batiuk, George 29 SWR-1
22 Jensen, Dane 28 BAl-1
23 Ellis, Dave 27 Sky-1
24 Kosciarz, Jozej* 26 AZC-1
24 McGlukin, Devek* 26 NWF-2 WFA-6
24 Simon, Greg 26 AFA-1
27 Ioerger, Tom 25 USO-1
28 Guinder, Taylor(Jr) 24 IFA-2
28 Rohrke, Rich 24 SWR-5 MM-4
30 Horak, Ladi 23 HC-3 CC-5
31 Mathews, Tony 21 HC-2
31 Radziunas, Sarah(Jr) 21 ska-2
31 Scheiman, Philip(Jr) 21 USF-2
31 Tymchek, Bob 21 AZC-2
35 Booth, Bill 20 MM-3
35 Davis, Mike 20 NCA-4 PC-5
35 Jensen, Gene 20 WFA-2
35 Ryan, Eric 20 NCA-1
35 Seymour,John 20 USO-3
40 Borland, Chris 16 NWF-3
40 Davis, Evan 16 MM-5 MMM-5
42 Avollone,Eddie 15 McL-3
42 Norvall, Larry 15 PC-4
42 Tracy, Dan 15 WFA-3
45 Blom, Fred 11 AFA-4
45 Hanna, Bruce 11 NWF-4
45 OReilly, Jim 11 MMM-4
45 Peterson, Alan 11 AZC-4
49 Hinson, Rex 10 McL-4
49 Nelso, Elmer 10 USO-5
51 Brooks, Jim 9 IFA-5
52 Pratt, John 8 BAl-5 USF-1*
53 Felix, Ron 6 ska-5
53 Ladislan, Horak 6 EFF-5
53 Myska, Marianna* 6 AZC-5
53 Schroeder, Lee 6 NWF-5
57 Bradley, Jim 5 McL-5
57 Friebis, Joe 5 ESF-4

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 10 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 22 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 7 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
EFF -x- Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
SCT 3 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 2 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
NWF 3 NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
FFA -x- FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 3 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 13 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
TCC 4 Texas Cloud Climbers, Allen TX
McL 2 McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
IFA 10 Intercity FAI Muncie, IN
MMM 1 MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
HC 4 Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO 10 US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
ESF 3 Empire State FF Champs, NY
AFA 2 Chicago Aeronuts-Muncie, IN
WFA 1 Western FAI Challenge- Harts Lake, WA
CC 6 Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
DC 0 Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CFA 12 Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
SC 8 Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC -X- S.W. FAI Challenge, LasVegas, NV
SKA 1 Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
ACT 4 Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
USF 2
PC 6 Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC 1 Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI 0 King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1C
1 Gutai, Bob 101 Sky-1 IFA-2* HC-2* USO-4* ESF-1 AFA-1 CC-2* ACT-2* PC-1
2 Parker, Faust 100 MM-1 SCT-1 TCC-2 McL-2* USO-3* ACT-1
3 Spence, Henry 92 MM-5* SCT-2 TCC-1 McL-1 USO-2 ACT-3*
4 Joyce, Doug 91 SWR-5* MM-2 SCA-2 NCA-2 NWF-1 BAl-4* CFA-5* SC-4* USF-2* PC-4*
5 Kirilenko, Andrei 89 Sky-2 IFA-3 HC-1 ESF-2* SKA-1
6 Archer, Randy 81 SWR-3* BAl-1 CFA-1 AZC-1
7 Keck, Ed 75 SWR-4 IFA-1 ESF-3 CC-1
8 Roberts, Mike 61 NWF-3 WFA-1 PC-2
9 Mc Burnett, Ron 59 NWF-2 BAl-2 CFA-4* PC-3
10 Simpson, Roger 53 MM-3 NCA-1 BAl-5
11 Warren, John 51 SWR-2 CFA-2 PC-5
12 Poti, Norm 46 SWR-1 IFA-4 USO-5
13 Etherington, Chuck 40 TCC-3 MMM-1
14 Carroll, Ed 37 SCA-3 SC-2
15 Happersett, Ken 32 SCA-1 SC-5
16 Johannes, Bob 27 USO-1
17 Arambasic, Srdjan 26 HC-3 CC-4
17 Galbreath, Doug 26 SC-1
17 Schlachta, Frank 26 HC-4 CC-3
20 Mennano, Guy 25 USF-1
21 Gewin, Matt 24 SCA-5 CFA-3
22 Sifleet, Bob 20 AFA-2
22 Simpson, Reid 20 TCC-4 ACT-4
24 Johannes, Dave 18 BAl-3
25 Gunder, Craig 17 Sky-3
26 Oliver, Ken 16 SC-3
27 Perkins, Daryl 15 MM-4
28 Morris, Gil 11 SCA-4
29 Chesson, Don 7 IFA-5
30 Condon, E 6 CC-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 19 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 25 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 7 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
EFF -x- Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
SCT 2 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 3 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
NWF 6 NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
FFA 3 FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 10 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 15 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
TCC 4 Texas Cloud Climbers, Allen TX
McL 5 McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
IFA 11 Intercity FAI Muncie, IN
MMM 7 MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
HC 5 Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO 46 US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
ESF 6 Empire State FF Champs, NY
AFA 9 Chicago Aeronuts-Muncie, IN
WFA 3 Western FAI Challenge- Harts Lake, WA
CC -x- Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
DC 3 Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CFA 19 Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
SC 11 Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC -X- S.W. FAI Challenge, LasVegas, NV
SKA 9 Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
ACT 4 Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
USF 9
PC 12 Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC 9 Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI 0 King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1G
1 Ioeger, Tom 107 Sky-1 IFA-1 HC-1 SKA-1
2 Wood, Dick 102 SWR-1 MM-4* SCA-5* SCT-1 FFA-2* BAl-5* TCC-2* McL-1 IFA-4* MMM-3* HC-4* ESF-2* AFA-2 DC-2* SKA-5* USF-2* AZC-3*
3 Cooney, Ralph 96 MM-1 NWF-1 WFA-1 CFA-4
4 Emery, Jack 95 MM-3* SCA-2 NCA-1 MMM-4 CFA-1 SC-4* PC-5
5 Clapp, John 85 Sky-3 HC-3 USO-2 ESF-4 SC-3
6 Brocks, Peter 81 SWR-3 SCA-4* MMM-2 USF-4 PC-1
7 DeLoach, Don 76 TCC-1 MMM-1 DC-1
8 Davis, Bill 64 MM-2 BAl-3 SC-5 PC-4
9 Sessums, John 62 SCA-1* BAl-1 MMM-5 USF-1
10 Davis, Mike 55 MM-5 SC-1 PC-3
11 Schroedter, G 47 CFA-2 SC-2
11 Simon, Greg 47 IFA-5* USO-3 AFA-1
13 Jones, Charlie 45 FFA-3 Sky-2 IFA-6
13 O Dwyer, John 45 SCT-2 McL-4 ACT-3
13 Tymchek, Bob 45 PC-2 AZC-2
16 Ivers, Rich 43 ESF-1 SKA-3
17 Burrow, Taylor(Jr) 40 TCC-4 IFA-3 AZC-4
17 Wiley, Ed 40 TCC-3 ACT-1
19 Cole, Hank 38 NWF-4 CFA-5 USF-3
19 Pelatowski, Larry 38 ESF-3 SKA-2
21 Critchlow, Bob 31 SCA-3 NCA-3
21 White, Bob 31 SWR-4 NWF-3
23 Ringlien,Warren 30 USO-1
24 Peterson. Alan 27 AZC-1
25 Crowley, Paul 25 SWR-2
25 Markos, Chuck 25 FFA-1
27 Hatschek, Bob 24 Sky-4 SKA-4
27 Mulligam, M 24 BAl-2
29 Wilson, Dale 23 IFA-2
30 Hannah, Bruce 21 NWF-2
30 Norvall, Larry 21 BAl-4 USF-5
32 Gannon, William 20 CFA-3
32 Jensen, Blake 20 WFA-2
32 Sayer, Leo 20 HC-2
32 Scheiman, Philip(Jr) 20 NCA-2
32 Vanlandingham, Ed 20 ACT-2
37 Konefes, Ed 17 AFA-3
38 Avallone, Eddie 15 McL-2
38 Hepler, Tom 15 McL-2
38 Jensen, Gene 15 WFA-3
38 Murphy, Jerry 15 DC-3
38 Pivitt, James 15 USO-4
43 Blom, Fred 12 AFA-4
44 O Reilly, Jim 10 SWR-5
44 Stafford, Jim 10 ACT-4
44 Vargo, Edward 10 USO-5
47 Buss, Bill 7 Sky-5
47 Ferwerda, James 7 AFA-5
47 Rogers, Alex* 7 AZC-5
50 Pratt, John 6 NWF-5
50 Sneed, Ed 6 ESF-5
52 Brooks, Jim 5 HC-5
52 Ross, John 5 McL-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 8 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 15 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 11 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
EFF 6 Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
SCT 4 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 9 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
NWF 2 NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
FFA 4 FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 9 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 8 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
TCC 0 Texas Cloud Climbers, Allen TX
McL 0 McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
IFA 6 Intercity FAI Muncie, IN
MMM 4 MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
HC 1 Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO 18 US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
ESF 3 Empire State FF Champs, NY
AFA 6 Chicago Aeronuts-Muncie, IN
WFA -X- Western FAI Challenge- Harts Lake, WA
CC -x- Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
DC 1 Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CFA 8 Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
SC 10 Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC -X- S.W. FAI Challenge, LasVegas, NV
SKA 7 Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
ACT 3 Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
USF 8
PC 12 Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC 5 Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI 0 King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1H
1 Cowley,Martyn 108 SWR-2* MM-1 NCA-1 CFA-2* SC-5* USF-3* PC-1 AZC-1
2 Sifleet, Bob 103 MM-3* Sky-2* BAl-4* IFA-1 HC-1 USO-4* AFA-1 SKA-1
3 McKever, Mike 100 MM-2* SCA-1 NCA-4* NWF-1 BAl-1 CFA-5* SC-2 USF-1* PC-3* AZC-2*
4 VanNest, Brian 91 SWR-1 SCA-3 BAl-5* MMM-1 CFA-3* PC-2 AZC-5*
5 Nippert, Vic 87 EFF-3 Sky-4* USO-1 ESF-2 SKA-2
6 Busnelli, Ernesto 81 SWR-3 SCA-2 NCA-2 CFA-4* USF-2 PC-4*
7 Pailet, Jean 62 EFF-2 FFA-3 ESF-3 AFA-4
8 Markos, Chuck 58 FFA-1 Sky-1 IFA-5
8 Smith, Norm 58 SWR-5 MM-5 SCA-5 NCA-3 MMM-2
10 Zink, Don 55 MM-4 USO-2 SC-3
11 Schlarb, Bill 52 FFA-2 IFA-3 AFA-3
12 Ivers, Rich 48 Sky-3 ESF-1 SKA-5
13 Jones, Tom 46 Sky-5 IFA-2 AFA-5 SC-4
14 Reeve, Mike 45 SCT-2 ACT-1
15 Parker, Dallas (Jr) 43 SWR-4 BAl-2 USF-4
16 Mekina, Joe 41 USO-3 AFA-2
17 Hines,Lee 40 NCA-5 MMM-3 PC-5 AZC-4
18 Smitz, Willard 35 MMM-4 DC-1
19 Sheffer, Jackie 30 SCT-3 ACT-3
19 Spence, Steve 30 SCT-4 ACT-2
21 Brun, Pierre 28 SCA-4 BAl-3
22 Norton, Bob 27 SC-1
23 Limberger, Rene* 26 CFA-1
23 Pelatowski, Ed 26 EFF-1
25 Fedor, Mike 25 SCT-1
26 Kluiber, Rudy 21 FFA-4 IFA-4
27 Thomson, Ben(Jr) 16 SKA-3
28 Archer, Ryan* 15 AZC-3
29 Pelatowski, Larry 11 EFF-4
29 Lindell, Rich (Jr) 11 SKA-4
31 Basta, Michael 10 USO-5
32 Coussens, Ben (Jr) 6 USF-5
32 Wagner, Joe* 6 EFF-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 7 Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
MM 18 MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA 3 SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
EFF -x- Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
SCT 6 Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA 6 NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
NWF 2 NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
FFA 3 FFAMS, Muncie. IN
Sky 3 Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
BAl 8 Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
TCC 3 Texas Cloud Climbers, Allen TX
McL 2 McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
IFA 10 Intercity FAI Muncie, IN
MMM -x- MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
HC -x- Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO 19 US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
ESF 3 Empire State FF Champs, NY
AFA 3 Chicago Aeronuts-Muncie, IN
WFA 1 Western FAI Challenge- Harts Lake, WA
CC -x- Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
DC 1 Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CFA 8 Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
SC 6 Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC -X- S.W. FAI Challenge, LasVegas, NV
SKA 3 Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
ACT 7 Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
USF 3
PC 3 Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC 0 Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI 0 King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1J
1 Gutai, Bob 106 MM-1 Sky-3* USO-5* ESF-1 AFA-1 CFA-2* SC-5* ACT-1 PC-1*
2 Carroll, Ed 94 SWR-3 SCA-3* BAl-1 USO-2 CFA-1
3 Poti, Norm 88 SWR-4 MM-2 IFA-2 USO-1
4 Parker, Faust 82 MM-5* SCT-1 TCC-3 McL-2 ACT-2
5 Pailet, Jean 80 FFA-2 Sky-2 McL-3* ESF-2 AFA-3* SKA-2
6 Keck, Ed 68 SWR-2 MM-4 IFA-3 USO-4* ESF-3
7 Roberts, Mike 65 NWF-1 WFA-1 PC-2
8 Mennano, Guy 63 SWR-1 BAl-3 USF-2
9 Shirley, David 57 CFA-5 SC-1 USF-1
10 Carstens, Fred* 55 TCC-2 DC-1 ACT-4
11 Gunder, Austin (Jr) 52 Sky-1 IFA-1
11 Haught, Jim 52 NCA-3 AFA-2 SC-3
13 Johannes, David 49 BAl-2 CFA-3 SC-4
14 Lynch, Bill 47 NCA-1 SC-2
15 Warren, Ed 46 MM-3 CFA-4 PC-2
16 Parsons, Dave 41 NCA-2 NWF-2
17 Sheffer, Jackie 37 SCT-2 ACT-3
18 Marsh, Jack 32 FFA-1 IFA-5
19 Robertson, Tony 26 SCA-2 NCA-5
20 Brown, Gerald* 25 TCC-1
20 Conton, Charles 25 McL-1
20 Laird, Tom 25 SCA-1
20 Kerr, Tom 25 SKA-1
24 Servaites, Bucky 20 USO-3
25 Snyder, Russ 17 SCT-4 ACT-5
26 Mace, Marvin 16 SCT-3
27 Campbell, Lee 15 FFA-3
27 Roundsaville,Dave 15 USF-3
29 Fulmer, Keith 12 IFA-4
29 Ginder, Fred III 12 BAl-4
31 Simpson, Reid 11 NCA-4
32 Kruse, Matt* 7 BAl-5
33 Menanno, C--? 6 CFA-5
33 Menanno, Frank 6 SWR-5
33 Schelp, Jon(Jr) 6 SCT-5
33 Kibiki, Keilichi * 6 SKA-3



Source for Mathis's Bounty Hunter
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Concerning the request for info on Dick Mathis's Bounty Hunter design,
contact Edgar Seay, Sr. at M.A.L. hobby shop in Irving, TX (972) 438-9233.
Edgar kitted this design for Dick back in the late 60's. I talked to him
yesterday and he still has plans and may even kit one up for anybody
interested.
regards
Mike Fedor



binocular
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to many paire of binocular!
need to sale one
20x60 PCF V made by PENTAX purchase 10 2001
Paid $ 248.00,for sale at $180.00 or bo

PIERRE
1 818 989 4970
will bring them to the field





F1P event down South
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rodger.
would you please ask the freeflighters out there if
anybody would be interested in coming to l a lower
alabama for a f1p puppy contest?
prizes would be certificates and entry fee would be a
donation.
low key huh?
who knows maby the rest of the small fai events could
be included.
if there is enough intrest i may try to get somethuing
going.
thx don.
anybody interested can contact me at dwilkinson911@
yahoo.com


F1C Stuff for Sale
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new f1C Icarex covered Verbitsky type
three piece wing for sale or trade!
I have a brand new wing I think Gutai called it a 103 and also has a
complimentary mylar covered stab that I will never use so my interest are F1G
components such as FE,fuse parts.GOOD TAN ll or NIB Cyclon engines.I will
consider partial trade and Cash.I also have a brand new Andrikov high aspect
ratio wing and stab married to a ;Russian ; type fuse with DPR,wiggler and
the works,the components have never been assembled and are all brand new...
Krine Laffler AMA859


Making a Post on SEN - and Bounty Hunter Info
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Hello Roger,

Regarding SEN for 8 January 2003, I would like to respond to "dieseldon"
regarding the Mathis Bounty Hunter, but I am not sure how to do it. As
of today I am registered. After logging on, do I click on the Comment
button to make a post?

[Roman - do what you did and send mail to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.]

BTW, the September/October 1965 issue of American Modeler presented a
construction article for the Bounty Hunter. It was a 1/2A with a
projected wing area of 391 sq. in. that weighed 7.5 oz. ( Hmm - a little
stretching of the wing to increase area to 403 sq. in. and it would
qualify as an F1P). The wing and stab featured what Mathis called
birdcage construction, which was claimed to be " easiest and fastest
according to those who have tried it."

Roman





Note to dieseldon:
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If memory serves me (and it does so less and less every day!), Fast
Richard's "Bounty Hunter" was also published in Flying Models. If indeed
it was, you can probably still get the plans through Carstens plan
service. My best thought is to go to the Flying Models web site (use
Google and type in Flying Models) and send a query e-mail to Frank
Fanelli. In the meantime, I'll check my stash of model mags to see
whether or not I had a brain cramp.

Larry Kruse




Pitch your blades
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Dear Mike

I can't agree about the idea of prop blades with no pitching moment. It
seems to me that this is the one case where the moment is no problem. We
don't have to worry about the 'stabilty' of the prop blade. At least not at
the velocities involved. It might be important if a moving moment caused
structural damage I guess.

For me the only criteria is the fact that it is a quasi wing, as you say.
This means the same parameters apply. ie a high CL/CD and this is best
provided by using an optimum thickness/camber for the conditions involved.
Something along the lines of B6356 is the obvious choice, for rubber at
least. Note I quoted CL/CD. CL1.5/CD is not applicable for prop blades.
Any other thoughts guys?

Peter King


Bounty Hunter
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Roger,
In answer to 'dieseldon' this design was published in Model Builder in '63 or s
o...
I have the issue but could't find it this morning...it has a monocoupe on the c
over
and ( I think? ) an inset photo of FR and BH...I'll keep looking.
This design was large at 416 WA, hi thrust and birdcage construction. It was us
ed
VERY successfully by Jack Nix ( Sky-Scrapers ) and his sons all thru the 60's
to fill up their trophy cases!!
I met Dick when I was flying his Head Hunter design at the '70 Nats in Glenview.
We formed a great friendship that lasted awhile and I have a ton of great stori
es!
Ironically I just picked up a BH kit at the collecto at the recent King Orange.

later...
Dave Rounsaville


F1P Program Feedback
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Biggles


F1P = Production:

F1P a new event for Juniors ? No ! Make that a new event for
manufacturers ! All those young lads diligently working on building
their own F1P models to the rules as published after the March 2002
CIAM meeting, can now throw everything in the trash. Because in fact
we now learn that they will be competing head to head against factory
built models, beyond the means of any normal junior schoolboy of
their age, limited to the typical income from a paper round ! This
is because the "revised" rules now published in the January 1st 2003
FAI rule book have been modified to eliminate the Builder of the
Model rule 4b B.3.1. !

So why doesn't the 4 year rule freeze apply to F1P ? Is this a
provisional FAI event ? Can that be, if F1P is already designated a
"World Championship" event for 2004 ? And if such "re-writing" of
the rules after they have been published and circulated is
"permitted", then what other F1P rule changes can we expect to see
slipped into the rule book before the opening of the first round of
competition ?

Nor is this to be a "simple" model event. Even though some
"technology" is specifically prohibited, limited (at this time) no
engine brakes, tuned pipes or reduction gears, other technologies are
by their very omission from these rule restrictions effectively being
encouraged. Maybe this is a good thing, to encourage fierce
competition and sophisticated design innovation by the manufacturers
? Certainly there is nothing to prohibit a folding wing (one change
of incidence from negative to positive without changing camber) nor
flappers (one change of camber without changing incidence) even if
the transition may not match the elegant control of a bunter who
cares after a 10 second motor run ! Perhaps the one change of
incidence permitted could be used for the propeller during the climb
as used by F2A engines during vertical maneuvers ?

All the existing power flyers are probably expecting to see an F1P
model that actually looks like a power model. But we already have
events for models that look like that don't we. Instead, these oddly
worded F1P rules, limiting span, "wing" area (but not tail area) and
weight, may lead to other innovative non-traditional configurations.
Consider for example some of the other span-limited events, such as
F1D, F1L and P-30, where huge stabilizers which approximate tandem
wing configurations are the norm. And a power event without any wing
loading specification rules as currently written, could result in
giant area, low aspect ratio, lightly loaded models.

It's just a pity there won't be a throng of Juniors there to see them !

Tally Ho
Biggles

[On the FAI web site there is a new version of the sporting code - refernced by Biggles.
I did not that there is a typo ? as at one part it says
there are 5 rounds and another 7 ?]



F1P flyoff ?
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Re: F1P
Roger, when you printed the rules for the F1P event, nothing was included
about flyoff flights. Do the rules include flyoffs? If so, what are they?
I have an F1P ready to fly as soon as the weather turns better. Easy to build
and, I hope, easy to fly.
Thanks in advance.
Bob Stalick


F1P Plans Available
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Full scale building plans for F1P Pop-Up available for immediate delivery.
59" wing span, 405 sq in proj. area, AME or Cyclon .061, stick and tissue
construction, uses Texas Micro Timmer and Oliver composite fuselage, designed
especially for F1P July, 2002. $6.00 ppd. (USA). Send SASE for free 3 view
only.
Gil Morris
2810 Brackley Rd.
Columbus, OH 43220



Diesel F1J Flier, contact
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Hi Roger: Don Deloach referred me to you re;
possibility of getting in touch with an F1J flier,
listed in the SCAT e- news contest results, as Del
Adams , and MP Jet "D" following his name. I'm a
diesel only flier, concentrating on the new AMA
Classic category, in A using the MP Jet, and in 1/2A,
with tuned P.A.W.,.8cc "stinkers",and would welcome
contact with any AMA, or Nostalgia, competition minded
(or sport model, for that matter)) diesel fliers to
exchange ideas, techniques etc. Thanks in advance,
Cheers; donmyers

Bounty Hunting
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Subject : Re: SCAT Electronic News 8 January 2003 issue 770

RE ''BOUNTY HUNTER'' , (1/2 A, A)
I have the magazine three view of said bird. Date on page is
''SEP/OCT 1965'', magazine title not listed. I would guess it to be FLYING
MODELS.


F1Ping
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Subject : Re: SCAT Electronic News 8 January 2003 issue 770


With the recent efforts of the West Coast clubs, I think that F1P is now
getting the attention that it will probably deserve. When I read that
the infamous "Hardly A. Brokenspar" asked about the rules, I knew we had
made it! Then, in the same breath he is talking about twisting rubber
bands, I got confused....

We need to somehow get more information out on what is being designed. I
have a simple 3 view of what John and I constructed. I also have the
Pop-Up plans from my friend Gil Morris. But, I know that there are more
lines being put on paper. Even if these haven been built, it would be
excellent to be able to see these and compare notes. We all have
different ideas on what would work, and now is the time to see what is
out there.

In the last SCAT edition, someone asked about Fast Richard's designs.
This suddenly brought to light that the Bounty Hunter can easily be made
to meet the 405 sq inch numbers, with very simple construction. I had
built allot of bird cage stuff in the olden days and it still would
work! The built up fuselage and high thrust could make an interesting
design. Hi thrust stuff tends to get rid of the delicate launch
characteristics of low thrust, small pylons. It is all balsa and as easy
to build as a Mini-Pearl. Heck, even a Mini-Peral could easily be done.
Hmmmm, may be I'll have to fire up AutoCad and see what could be
designed. I could even see Dave Rounsaville building one. A very good
friend of mine built a bigger Bounty Hunter with a Cox .09 and it trucked.

So, let's see if we can come up with a method of easily transfering 3
views of what is being done. If they could be commuinicated thru SCAT,
it could be of benefit to all...

John Lorbiecki


F1P in contest
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Roger, in response to your question as to when should F1P be scheduled,
during the major events or mini events.

I realize it will be each CD's call as to when he wants to schedule it,
but my take is/was, during the mini events. Rationale is based on two
things. First, the major events have longer maxes, get higher and go
further. So there is the time needed to retrieve them that must be
factored in. The second thing is that the most major events competitors
are concentrating to hard on their event to put in the flights of a second
event. So the time needed for retrieval and the intensity of the
competition warrants the placing of F1P with the mini events.

I would also like to add as a suggestion, is to try the way that F1P was
scheduled at the Autumn cup. Because of the desire to get competitors
introduced to the F1P event with out them saying I just don't have time
for another event, we did not schedule F1P to be flown by rounds. That way
when a competitor has time to squeeze in a flight or 2 during the day he
can do it. It also gives them the capability to get his flights in early
in the day when there is little drift. Fly offs begin at the same time as
the mini events. I believe this approach gives competitors a chance to be
introduced to the event without having to sacrifice a current interest.
When more flyers start flying the event, then schedule the rounds. Would
this approach work at the World Cup events such as the Max Men 14 rounder
or the Sierra Cup with an international mix of competitors? No, and if I
were the CD of a competition of that nature I would not even consider it.
But I do believe that it is a solution worth attempting as the F1P
competition begins here in America.

Reid Simpson

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Thanks
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Thanks to Bill F1B Booth Jnr for his donation in support od SEN.

.................
Roger Morrell