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News and Reports 2003
SCAT Electronic News 13 June 2003 issue 803
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Wilber and Orville Society youth run the Skyscraper Monthly saturday - Barron
FlugTagLA - Rivas
NMAP - Wiley
Replacing F1A lines - Chaussebourg
F1C Trimming - Boutillier
Taft - Schroedter
Wilber and Orville Society youth run the Skyscraper Monthly saturday
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Free Flight flyers,
This Saturday (6-14-03) youth from the W&O Society, based out of Art
Ellis' Eli Whitney Museum program, are running the Skyscraper Monthly
at Wawayanda, NY, sanctioned by the AMA. Official flying is 9am-3:30pm
Saturday, with no rounds. You are welcome to fly any free flight models.
Flyers of all ages are welcome. Events for FAI, AMA, and Nostalgia, are
listed at the Skyscraper website.
Art Ellis has announced special U.S. Team tee-shirt youth awards to the
top two in FAI maxi (F1A-B-C combined), and top one in FAI mini (F1G-H-J-P
combined).
Email Art Ellis at if you want to be added to his
weekly W&O Society email distribution list.
We had a delightful Skyscraper International Challenge a couple of weeks
ago. Below are the results provided by Aram Schlosberg. Note that for
the FAI events (J) refers to FAI juniors (up to age 18).
Thermals,
Andrew Barron
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Skyscraper Challenge Report (May 25-26) by Aram Schlosberg
(with some input from Andrew Barron).
The weather Cassandras forecasting high winds and rain scared off some
flyers. But mother nature was much kinder to those who made it, with a
overcast Saturday with some drizzle and light fog and a light wind from
the northeast (the wind was light enough that a six minute mulvihill
flight stayed on the sod field). Sunday was just spectacular, overcast,
starting off with very light morning winds followed by a long mid-day
dead calm period. Due to the a week's precipitation the field was wet,
drenching may socks and sneakers. The surrounding corn field had just been
planted, extending the field to the far trees on the surrounding higher
land.
The contest highlight was the F1B flyoff. In the first flyoff, John Clapp
flew early, but Jim Bradley, who had a motor blow, and Bob Biedron got
better air launching later. The 7 minute flyoff (a first ever in
Wawayanda) was flown from the end of the field. Bob got off to a
clean max while Jim had another motor blow and his second model's VIT
line did not disconnect, causing a dive that clocked at 13 seconds. Taylor
Gunder was the highest scoring junior, dropping 20 seconds.
Andrei Kirilinko, the only F1C flier, clocked a perfect score.
There was drama in the last round for F1A and F1G. In F1A, Austin Gunder,
with a perfect score got into a time pressure on the last round/second
attempt and sub-maxed for third place. Omer Erguner maxed-out for first
place, just ahead of Szvetan Zvetkov. Aram DTed early in the sixth round
and fell to fourth place. Ben Thompson was the highest scoring junior,
placing 5th. Andrew Barron had a myriad of technical problems in F1A.
In F1G, Larry Pelatowski maxed-out while John Clapp DTed early spoiling
an otherwise perfect score and putting him in a tie for third, resolved by
a flyoff with Bob Hatschek.
The three top flyers and the leading junior in each event were awarded a
certificate, portraying an Indian flying a glider, draw by the Canadian
artist Mark Komza. Dick Ivers walked away with two firsts and a second.
F1G
1. Larry Pelatowski 120 120 120 120 120 = 600
2. Dick Ivers 120 120 109 120 120 = 589
3. John Clapp 120 120 120 120 88 = 568 + 133
4. Bob Hatschek 104 104 120 120 120 = 568 + 92
5. Don Rousseau 120 111 120 83 74 = 508
Full scores 4 3 2 2 1
F1H
1. Dick Ivers 95 101 120 85 120 = 521
2. Larry Pelatowski 120 65 64 85 108 = 442
3. Jean Pailet 51 104 61 50 120 = 386
4. Ben Thompson (J) 42 73 42 52 32 = 241
Full scores 1 0
F1J
1. Austin Gunder(J) 69 120 96 120 120 = 525
2. Tom Kerr 20 --- = 20
3. Amanda Barr (J) 10 = 10
F1A (180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180)
1. Omer Erguner 180 180 180+ 7 180 180 180 180 = 1267
2. Tzvetan Tzvetkov 180 180 170 180 180 180 180 = 1250
3. Austin Gunder(J) 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 147 = 1227
4. Aram Schlosberg 180 180 180+60 180 127 180 180 = 1207
5. Ben Thompson (J) 180 165 180 180 125 180 80 = 1090
6. Peter Barron (J) 36 146 180+60 180 173 151 180 = 1046
7. Jonah Coste (J) 38 164 180 180 153 180 146 = 1041
8. Ton Jones 100 110 177 180 177 173 82 = 999
9. Josh Revkin (J) 180 16 180 180 92 115 117 = 880
10. Dennis Phelan 180 140 110 149 66 0 165 = 810
11. Andrew Barron 148 82 99 65 46 94 180 = 714
12. Kay Fags 82 106 = 188
Full scores 7 4 2 2 1 1 0
F1B (180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 300 420)
1. Bob Biedron 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 300 420 = 2040
2. Jim Bradley 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 300 13 = 1663
3. John Clapp 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 239 = 1559
4. Jerry McGlashan 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 DNF = 1320
5. Taylor Gunder(J) 180 180 180+60 180 180 160 180 = 1240
6. Sera Radziunus(J)180 180 180+35 154 160 154 180 = 1208
7. David Ellis 83 180 180 180 142 180 180 = 1125
8. Nathan Coste (J) 81 100 172 106 145 179 76 = 859
Full scores 6 6 5 5 5 4 4
F1C
1. Andrei Kirinko 180 180 180+60 180 180 180 180 = 1320
HLG
1. Thomas Jones 43 48 63 42 73 80 = 216
2. Ed Pelatowski 53 20 67 93 7 26 = 213
3. Larry Pelatowski 45 7 99 26 67 37 = 211
4. Peter Barron (S) 9 14 5 24 30 21 = 75
5. Jean Pailet 5 3 22 27 25 13 = 74
6. Matt Rousseau (J) 3 3 18 11 19 11 = 48
7. Michelle Barron(J) 4 5 2 4 4 5 = 14
Catapult Glider
1. Thomas Jones 38 41 29 72 120 60 = 252
2. Dennis Phelan 59 59 49 50 60 47 = 178
3. Ed Pelatowski 37 73 43 30 52 8 = 168
4. Larry Pelatowski 51 52 32 46 36 43 = 149
5. Jean Pailet 36 26 28 39 38 16 = 113
6. Al Mkitarian 2 35 29 = 66
6. Timothy Barron(J) 22 21 20 19 16 23 = 66
8. Michelle Barron(J) 7 7 6 6 6 6 = 20
Mulvihill (120 180 240)
1. Red Laffler 120 176 196 = 491
2. Nat Coste (J) 120 180 143 = 443
3. Andrew Barron 120 150 172 = 342
4. Timothy Barron (J) 54 68 48 = 170
5. Michelle Barron(J) 60 39 36 = 135
6. Julie Barron (J) 32 34 39 = 105
Dawn Unlimited
1. Dave Acton 265
2. Red Laffler 244
3. Nat Coste (J) 108
4. Don Rousseau 84
P-30
1. Dick Ivers 120 120 111 = 351
2. Larry Pelatowski 120 86 120 = 326
3. Bob Hatschek 78 104 120 = 302
4. Timothy Barron (J) 62 120 117 = 299
5. Al Mkitarian 104 89 93 = 295
6. Bill Collish 120 91 82 = 293
7. Matt Rousseau (J) 101 71 114 = 286
8. T. Tousseau (J) 104 97 57 = 258
9. Don Rousseau 98 91 59 = 248
10. Michelle Barron(J)105 110 1 = 216
11. Red Laffler 120 58 1 = 178
ABC Classic
1. Alan Abriss 90 120 = 210
A Gas
1. Jean Pailet 120 120 120 = 360
Pee Wee 30
1. Michael Cook 15/120 15/120 16/96
600 800 600 = 2200
2. Alan Abriss 15/90 15/120 15/89
600 800 593 = 1993
FlugTagLA
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Roger Morrel:
I am contacting you to inform you of a flying competition coming to the LA
area in September. It's not your typical event, but there is a chance that
your club members that still have student certificates can win flight lessons.
Flugtag is a competition where people build home-built human-powered
flying-machines and launch them off a 30ft ramp into the air (or more
likely the Pacific Ocean). Judging is not just based on distance, so you
don't need a whole lot of technical expertise (although it helps), because
creativity and showmanship are just as important. All the details and
applications can be downloaded from the Flugtag LA site at
http://redbullflugtagla.com. It would be great to see a FAI Free Flight
team participate. The deadline to submit applications is June 27th.
Thanks for your consideration,
Luis Rivas
NMAP
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Hello Roger:
FAI members working with junior and senior sportsmen/women should be aware
of the NFFS National Model Aeronautics Program (NMAP). NMAP offers a graded
approach to learning our sport. If the youth is a member of NFFS, he or she
is eligible for rewards. As the youth achieves certain goals, their
achievements are recorded and they compile points that can be turned in for
tangible rewords, such as gift certificates to purchase model supplies.
Although many of your younger members are way past the "build a HLG" phase,
they can still be enrolled and still earn points based on their contest
performances. Further, any youth who has been is member of NFFS is eligible
for any achievements gained since the start of the NMAP program.
NMAP programs can be as small as one junior working with one mentor, or as
large as a club wishes their program to be. Fathers or mothers working with
their children is no problem and this activity is encouraged.
I have sent each of the 57 registered free flight clubs information about
NMAP. I encourage all who have an interest in the future of our sport to
support NMAP and help in the effort to educate the next generation of free
flight sportsmen and women.
The NMAP points system can be viewed at
http://freeflight.org/jlf/nmap/nmap_scores.htm
Rocco Ferrario is coordinator of the program and he or I can send anyone
interested in the program the new brochure, designed to explain our program
to those outside our community. (email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.). I am the
NFFS Education Director and I will be happy to talk with anyone who is
interested (email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.).
Thermals to all,
Ed Wiley
Replacing F1A lines
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Jim, Randy,
Yes it is sometimes a long effort to replace these lines, and you are
never sure they are not tangled.
My technique is quite sure. I use a 5mm (or 8 mm) diameter soft plastic
tube (1 meter long): this tube which is used in electronic, which
stretch when you warm it. Sorry, I don't know the english word for it,
but in French, we call them: "gaine thermo-retractable".
I put this tube beside the boom, with one end at the back point where
the line I want to replace is going inside the boom, and I make an ink
mark on my tube at the place where the tube goes out of the fuselage,
so, when I put it inside the boon, from the front part of the fuselage,
I know when the tube is at the right place. This is necessary, because
sometimes, the tube is stopped by the rudder line. If you have no mark,
you can't be sure.
Then, I introduce the new line inside the boom, through the little tube
at the back of the fuselage. I push the line until it goes out of my
plastic tube. Then, I pull out the plastic tube and I attach that line
where it goes.
Then, I do the same thing for the second line etc...
This way, there is only one line at a time inside the plastic tube, and
if you are very careful of what you are doing when you pull the plastic
tube out, you cannot tangle with another one.
In fact, it is much easier to do than to explain, but it works 100%!
Free demonstartion for people coming to Poitou this summer!
Good luck!
Pierre
[Pierre it is heat shrink tube ]
F1C Trimming
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Thanks to John Cuthbert for his advice about my
trimming findings. I will take this as a guide for my
next model. The curent one is already 20g overweight
has no room for extra ballast.
As it flies nicely , it will stay as it is.
Anyway I will show it to John in coming Poitou.
Thanks again.
Bernard Boutillier
Taft
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Roger:
Yesterday Martin and I had intended to get in a day or two of fun and
practice flying at Lost Hills. He arrived first and reported strong
winds; too strong to fly in. So we changed plans and went to the Taft
field. There the conditions were wonderful all day. We left at 3 pm. On
the way home, Martin reported that the wind was still blowing hard when
he arrived back in Lost Hills.
We have had no end of problems with the wind at Lost Hills this year.
After yesterdays experience I cannot help but think that the club should
consider scheduling some of our minor contests back at Taft. True, we
have to contend with the pucker bushes at Taft, but at least the weather
almost always allows us to fly there.
George Schroedter
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Roger Morrell
