SCAT Electronic News 27 July 1999

SCAT Electronic News 27 July 1999

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How was the ANTONOV CUP?
Not Knots Again ! - Malkin [aka little NZ secret ]
Victor Stamov F1A Products, July, 1999


How was the ANTONOV CUP?
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Dear Roger,

It had been long tine since I wrote last. I found the result of
ANTONOV cup result on your newsletter recently. I also found your name
on F1B result. According to the result, all 3 competition 1st round
time was 180 sec. Are their any special reason for that irregular
contest? How was weather? Please tell me more detail how was contest
going. By the way, Evgeny Verbitsuky was quite bad on this contest.
Did he fly redactor model this competition? I would like to know more
especially F1C event.
[
Well I had a good time at the Antonov - execpt on the flying field !

The first day was F1B and F1C. It was windy so they made the
first round 180. It was not really very windy and quite flyable.

I think that Verbitsky flew the geared model. He now has 2 models.
I think that the second had 3.6:1 gears. The first 3 in F1C
are the Ukranian team for Israel. Verbitsky stopped flying when
he had some trouble as it was quite a long chase. The models
were still landing on the air field but at the far end.

The F1C excitement was provided by Roy Summersby of Australia
who was trimming a new model in the far from ideal conditions.
Roy collected the 'Veterans' award - note to the organizers -
call it Seniors or even better Masters. Roy did not break it
and went off happy to fly it at Orel, Russia this weekend.

In the evening they flew the f1B flyoff and the wind dropped significantly
and changed direction. The winner Stephancouk, was the first to fly and
definitely got the best air. They were going for 7 minutes. All the
models were probably capable of over 6 minutes in still air.
Dead air was probably a good description as they got negative help.
While there was no signs on the thermistors etc it was getting worse
throughout the whole 10 minute flyoff window.

We hoped that the still evening would be a foretaste for F1A day.
However it was not to be. It was more windy and many flyers
did not even circle. In addition the direction changed and
took the models to a more overgrown area. I saw Peter Allnutt
borrow a coupe motor from Chris Murphy [or should I say
Kris Murfy - Cyrillic ?!] and make a cataput to shoot something
into the tree to get the model down.

Yes to be expected the weather calmed down and was not too bad
by prize giving time.


So while the weather was not perfect, and did the worst I ever have
it was a good event, a pity there were not more visitors. We did
enjoy our stay in Kiev and appreciate evryone's hospitality. Hope
that we can get back soon.]

I sent this message by previous address. But my message was returned
due to unknown address. I send this again by new address. I hope you
will receive this message safely.

[The best address is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.]

Shigeru


Not Knots Again !
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Roger,
I am sure there may be a couple of smiles amongst your readers
to see this article, however , this is my threepence worth.
When I first started flying Indoor some 3 or 4 years ,no decades
back, under the tutelage of a good local, Glen Conner, I was having
problems with stopping the knot from slipping undone. That appeared
to me, to be most unusual, as the rubber for Wakefields :-) never ever
seemed to slip undone, perhaps I was not winding it tight enough ( Back
to the story) and I asked Glen what he did to stop this phenomen from
occurring.
" Simple, just do one thumb knot, lubed or unlubed, then stretch the
knot very tight a rub it up against a woollen jersey,pullover- preferably
your own, otherwise you could be sporting a black eye." OK wiseguy,s
so in Southern California you dont need jerseys.
Apparently the wool fibres attach themselves to the rubber and
when the rubber is allowed to retain its normal length they are
embedded into the knot and stop the slipping. Magic! it works.
Up until the advent of Tan 2, I used a knot for Wakefields :-) :-) which
was based on the thumb knot , with an overhand knot done on top which
worked excellently until T2. There is no doubt my arms are becoming
stronger as once T2 became the norm I was having the knots slipping
much to my annoyance.
To overcome this I now slip a strand of my wife Betty,s knitting wool (
dont tell her) into the knot and "Eureka" it breaks elsewhere.
What I am now worrying about is if Clapp produces a "Grandson of
Tan" , then I will really be in trouble.
Of course the best part of this whole deal is that now I dont have to
package the motors in one bag for one batch, as I can now color code
each batch with the dyed wool!!
Finally, if the rubber is somewhat tender, I would imagine that Baby
knitting wool would do the job.


John M.

[ I used to just lick the rubber and tie a knot. .. until the July 97
rubber came. This rubber was mechanically very fragile and would
often break at the knot. So I needed to lube the knot to stop this.
When I did this the rubber come undone .. so at that time the Malkins
were staying at house, so when Betty was not looking I tried a bit
wool [aka yarn] in the knot. It was baby's wool! and it worked.
I've used that ever since]


Victor Stamov F1A Products, July, 1999
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Price list

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COMPLETE MODEL READY TO FLY
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"Long" bunt model - wing span 2306 mm; tailplane area 3.49 dm2;
tailplane arm 770 mm
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M1.1* -with electronic MTK timer $1950
M1.2* -with mechanical timer $1490
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"Short" bunt model - wing span 2122 mm; tailplane 4.0 dm2;
tailplane arm 735 mm
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M2.1* -with electronic MTK timer $1760
M2.2* -with mechanical timer $1300
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Entry Level (EL) bunt model - wing span 2122 mm, tailplane 4.0 dm2,
tailplane arm 735 mm, B-6356 airfoil
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M3.1* -with R18 $600
M3.2* -with R14 $700
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COMPLETE FUSELAGE + TAILPLANE (for "long" or "short" model)
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RH1* -with electronic MTK timer $970
RH2* -with mechanical timer $596
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FUSELAGE
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R1 3 - function timer (weight: 22.3 g) $56
R2 Timer winding key $7
R3 Timer setting pointer $7
R4 Towhook (weight: 11.3 g) $54
R5 Rudderdelay mechanism (weight: 1.1 g) $11
R7 2 - position wingwiggler (weight: 3.3 g) $25
R8 Bunt mechanism (weight: 1.3 g) $30
R9 Rudder adjuster (weight: 0.2 g) $7
R10 Stabmount (weight: 0.75 g) $11
R11 Tailboom (Al-Carbon-Al; L: 900 mm, D: 14 to 7 mm,
weight: 15 g) $27
R12 Fuselage front-end $50
R13 Rudder horns, tailplane seat and line crimps set $7
R14 3 - position wingwiggler (weight: 5 g) $50
R15* Finished fronted $380
R16* Finished fuselage (for "Long" or "Short" model with R1) $540
R17 Set of details for "electronic fuselage"
R17.1 Bunt mechanism "E" (weight: 1.2 g) $30
R17.2 Servo holder with pulley (weight: 3.9 g) $30
R17.3 Magnet holder for reed-contact switch (weight: 0.4 g) $5
R17.4 Magnet $3
R17.5 Reed contact switch $3
R18 1 - position wingwiggler (weight: 0.7 g) $15
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WINGS
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Complete wings covered by "Micafilm"
T51.1* -for "Long" model with extra stiff spar (wing span 2122 mm) $580
T51.1.1* -T51.1 without skin $520
T51.1.2* -T51.1.1 without jointed tips $510
T51.2* -for "Short" model (wing span 2122 mm) $550
T51.2.1* -T51.2 without skin $490
T51.2.2* -T51.2.1 without jointed tips $480
T1 Wingjoiner (D: 5 mm; 5.5 mm; 5.8 mm) $11
T2 D-boxes set for wings $75
T3 Carbon spars, leading, & trailing edges (weight: 40 g) $50
T4 Carbon caps for wing ribs $18
Spars complete
T5.1* -for "Short" model $90
T5.2* -for "Long" model $110
T6* Wing templates (set of 5 pieces) $38
T7 Set of leading & trailing edges $22
T8 Glassfibre root ribs of central panel $5
T9 Glassfibre joiners for connection tips $3
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TAILPLANE
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H1 Tailplane set (spar complete + trailing edge) $17
H2 Carbon caps for tailplane ribs $8
H3 Templates for stabairfoil (set of 2 pieces) $12
H15.1 Complete tailplane covered by mylar $56
H15.2 Tailplane without skin $45
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OTHER PARTS
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S1 Towline winch $25
S2 Towline ring (D=18 mm from stainless steel wire d=2mm) for:
1 pcs. $3
4 pcs. $10
10 pcs. $20

Items marked by sign (*) can be not in the store at this time. If you would
like to buy something, or you have any questions, please contact with:

Victor STAMOV
Simirenko Str., 34, Apt. 127,
252134 KIEV,
UKRAINE
tel/fax: 380-44/4727932
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Ansgar NUTTGENS
Ring Am Gottwill, 19,
66117 SAARBRUCKEN,
GERMANY
tel: 49-681/5846851
fax: 49-681/3002334
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Jos MELIS
Romershovenstraat, 113B-Bus2,
3730 HOESELT,
BELGIUM
tel/fax: 32-89/514601
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Mikael HOLMBOM
Kvarnvagen, 5,
86432 MATFORS,
SWEDEN
tel: 46-60/21210
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Randy WEILER
25 Winterhaven,
IRVINE, CA 92614,
USA
tel: 1-714/7331521
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Victor STAMOV
Simirenko Str., 34, Apt. 127,
252134, Kiev, UKRAINE
tel/fax: 380-44/4727932
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.............................

Roger Morrell