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Table of Contents - SEN 2219

 

  1. To all American members of LHFFMAA (Lost Hills Association)
  2. The Rest of the J story
  3. Fab Feb Online Entry Form
  4. Altitude or Attitude limited ?
  5. Juggling ideas - Altimeters, LEDs, youth and visibility
  6. Patterson Results Correction

 

To all American members of LHFFMAA (Lost Hills Association)

 

From: Brian Van Nest

Please renew before Jan 15 to get a reduced rate and speed up entering at the Fab Feb events.

Go to LHFFMAA.com and check your status
Any questions email me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Thanks Brian

 

The Rest of the J story

 

From: Daniel Berry
 
OK To be competitive, an F1J needs a Cyclon 1cc and a carbon based bunter. That is the reality. Nothing else is competitive. These are five minute planes with 5 sec engine runs. The event is usually flown on Sundays. Five rounds and then a flyoff in the mid-afternoon with thermals and wind that will take the planes off the field for the 3 minute flyoff flight. Then a fiveminute flyoff in the same conditions. Most guys just quit doing it with the competitive planes. Many reasons are in play- waste of time, waste of planes, too old to retrieve them, can't be bothered.
America Cup scores tell the tale. At least half of the guys are not flying a bunter. They know that they are flying for second place against a bunter. Fifteen years ago there were a lot of guys willing to fly a locked up or VIT plane in F1J. When the bunter planes arrived and got serious there was a short  period when guys were all geeked at a low cost version of F1C. They have mostly put the planes away and pursued other things- Free Flight or not.

The position that F1P planes are hard to fly is also nonsense. That there is a predominate design that gets trimmed such that anything except a perfect launch results in a VERY ugly flight doesn't mean the design specs are at fault. Poorly designed and trimmed planes are the fault there along with handing one of those nightmares to a youngster who really has no clue what to do. At about 8 yrs old I watched Brian Pacelli learning Free Flight with a P30 and T-Bird with an OK Cub. He started with some basics and some good mentoring and his flying over the next decade reflects on that.

 Dan Berry 

 

Fab Feb Online Entry Form

 

The entry form for all Fab Feb FAI events is online. This includes:

The Kiwi World Cup and Ike Winter Classic
North American World Cup
California World Cup for F1E
MaxMen International World Cup

With this form you can enter all the above events. You will be emailed a confirmation that includes an estimate of the entry and other fees.

When you get to Lost Hills you verify that all is correct, pay the entry and other fees and sign the contestant safety form.

As the information will be used to fill out all the official forms so you need supply all the information correctly.

This is the link to the form, Cut and paste it into your browser.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdQ-RhMmBjKprZZ8H91lK_Ucjqhn_2BDOek1TXpSwivQ0qvkw/viewform#start=invite

Detailed information on each event will be published shortly.

You make your own travel arrangements, hotel bookings and golf cart rentals .

 

Altitude or Attitude limited ?

 

From: Stuart Darmon
 
Hi Roger,                I think John Carter's idea of using altimeters to restrict rather than enable excessive performance is quite ingenious. Perhaps we could categorise different fields around the world like indoor venues by 'ceiling', so Mongolia, for example would be Cat.1 (unrestricted), Salisbury Plain Cat.2 (75m) and so on.
 Not sure about Newbigging or other Scottish venues.

Stuart

 

Juggling ideas - Altimeters, LEDs, youth and visibility
 

From: Ross Jahnke
 
Mike Achterbergs idea is a good one. Have a box of altimeters and batteries
at the CD table. Design  a simple housing that can be strapped on a
fuselage with some rubber bands. Come to think of it, do that with flashers
too (I'm stoked about the flashers!) But I must disagree with John Carter.
The young are not deterred by technology like altimeters, they are drawn to
it like a flame. Thats why they buy iPhones and not the Jitterbug.

And its not excess performance that causes problems. A model is easy to see
overhead, whether it climbs to 75 meters or to 125. Thats because its only
75-125 meters away, visible from the bottom, a dark shape on a light
background. But every model from an F1C to an HLG flies downwind in a
thermal, 200, 400, 800 meters or more, becoming a dark or light shape
(depending on the position of the sun), seen in profile, on a dark or light
background depending on how close it is to the ground. THAT is the distance
 that makes all of our models hard to see on a long flight.


Patterson Results corrected

 


PATTERSON (Corrected)      Nov 12-14           BRIAN VANNEST CD

F1A                   Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Rnd4 Rnd5 Rnd6 Rnd7 F01       total
 1  Jim Parker          240  180  180  180  180  180  180  300  415 2035
 2  Rene Limberger      240  180  180  180  180  180  180  300  387 2007
 3  Ken Bauer           240  180  180  180  180  180  180  300  295 1915
 4  Mike McKeever       225  180  180  180  180  180  180           1305
 5  Peter Allnutt       222  178  180  180  180  180  180           1300
 6  Don Zink            240  180  180  180  180  180  157           1297

F1B                   Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Rnd4 Rnd5 Rnd6 Rnd7 FO 1 FO2  total
 1  Alex Andriukov      240  180  180  180  150  150  150  300      1530
 2  Walt Ghio           240  180  180  180  150  150  150  263      1493
 3  Troy Davis          240  180  180  180  150  150  150  224      1454Jr High Time
 4  Michael Davis       240  180  180  180  150  150  150  222      1452
 5  Mike Richardson     240  180  180  180  150  150  150           1230
 6  Blake Jensen        240  180  180  155  150  150  150           1205
 7  Bob Tymchek         240  180  163  154  150  150  150           1187
 8  Tom Ioerger       dnf  dnf  dnf  dnf    150dnf  dnf              150

F1Q                   Rnd 1Rnd 2Rnd 3Rnd 4Rnd 5Rnd 6Rnd 7
 1  Mike Pykelyn        172  180  179  180  122  180dnf             1013

F1H                   Rnd 1Rnd 2Rnd 3Rnd 4Rnd 5FO 1 FO 2 FO 3
 1  Mike McKeever       120  120  120  120  120                      600
 2  Blake Jensen        120  113  120  120  120                      593
 3  Jim Parker          120  120  110  120  120                      590

F1G                   Rdn1 Rnd 2Rnd 3Rnd 4Rnd 5FO 1 FO 2
 1  Tiffany Odell       120  120  120  120  120  180  215            995
 2  Mike Davis          120  120  120  120  120  180  120            900
 3  Troy Davis          120  120  120  120   90                      570
 4  Mike Pykelyn        120   96   86  120  120                      542
 5  Bob Tymchek           9  120  120  120  120                      489
 6  Mike Richardson   dnf    120  120  120  111                      471
 7  Tom Ioerger         120  120   68dnf  dnf                        308

F1S                   Rnd 1Rnd 2Rnd 3Rnd 4Rnd 5FO1  FO2
 1  Matt Gewain          78  120  112  116  120                      546

................
Roger Morrell