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Table of Contents - SEN 2219
- To all American members of LHFFMAA (Lost Hills Association)
- The Rest of the J story
- Fab Feb Online Entry Form
- Altitude or Attitude limited ?
- Juggling ideas - Altimeters, LEDs, youth and visibility
- Patterson Results Correction
To all American members of LHFFMAA (Lost Hills Association)
From: Brian Van Nest
Please renew before Jan 15 to get a reduced rate and speed up entering at the Fab Feb events.
Go to LHFFMAA.com and check your status
The Rest of the J story
From: Daniel Berry
OK To be competitive, an F1J needs a Cyclon 1cc and a carbon based bunter. That is the reality. Nothing else is competitive. These are five minute planes with 5 sec engine runs. The event is usually flown on Sundays. Five rounds and then a flyoff in the mid-afternoon with thermals and wind that will take the planes off the field for the 3 minute flyoff flight. Then a fiveminute flyoff in the same conditions. Most guys just quit doing it with the competitive planes. Many reasons are in play- waste of time, waste of planes, too old to retrieve them, can't be bothered.
America Cup scores tell the tale. At least half of the guys are not flying a bunter. They know that they are flying for second place against a bunter. Fifteen years ago there were a lot of guys willing to fly a locked up or VIT plane in F1J. When the bunter planes arrived and got serious there was a short period when guys were all geeked at a low cost version of F1C. They have mostly put the planes away and pursued other things- Free Flight or not.
The position that F1P planes are hard to fly is also nonsense. That there is a predominate design that gets trimmed such that anything except a perfect launch results in a VERY ugly flight doesn't mean the design specs are at fault. Poorly designed and trimmed planes are the fault there along with handing one of those nightmares to a youngster who really has no clue what to do. At about 8 yrs old I watched Brian Pacelli learning Free Flight with a P30 and T-Bird with an OK Cub. He started with some basics and some good mentoring and his flying over the next decade reflects on that.
Fab Feb Online Entry Form
The entry form for all Fab Feb FAI events is online. This includes:
The Kiwi World Cup and Ike Winter Classic
North American World Cup
California World Cup for F1E
MaxMen International World Cup
With this form you can enter all the above events. You will be emailed a confirmation that includes an estimate of the entry and other fees.
When you get to Lost Hills you verify that all is correct, pay the entry and other fees and sign the contestant safety form.
As the information will be used to fill out all the official forms so you need supply all the information correctly.
This is the link to the form, Cut and paste it into your browser.
Detailed information on each event will be published shortly.
You make your own travel arrangements, hotel bookings and golf cart rentals .
Altitude or Attitude limited ?
From: Stuart Darmon
Hi Roger, I think John Carter's idea of using altimeters to restrict rather than enable excessive performance is quite ingenious. Perhaps we could categorise different fields around the world like indoor venues by 'ceiling', so Mongolia, for example would be Cat.1 (unrestricted), Salisbury Plain Cat.2 (75m) and so on.
Not sure about Newbigging or other Scottish venues.
Juggling ideas - Altimeters, LEDs, youth and visibility
From: Ross Jahnke
Mike Achterbergs idea is a good one. Have a box of altimeters and batteries
at the CD table. Design a simple housing that can be strapped on a
fuselage with some rubber bands. Come to think of it, do that with flashers
too (I'm stoked about the flashers!) But I must disagree with John Carter.
The young are not deterred by technology like altimeters, they are drawn to
it like a flame. Thats why they buy iPhones and not the Jitterbug.
And its not excess performance that causes problems. A model is easy to see
overhead, whether it climbs to 75 meters or to 125. Thats because its only
75-125 meters away, visible from the bottom, a dark shape on a light
background. But every model from an F1C to an HLG flies downwind in a
thermal, 200, 400, 800 meters or more, becoming a dark or light shape
(depending on the position of the sun), seen in profile, on a dark or light
background depending on how close it is to the ground. THAT is the distance
that makes all of our models hard to see on a long flight.
Patterson Results corrected
PATTERSON (Corrected) Nov 12-14 BRIAN VANNEST CD F1A Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Rnd4 Rnd5 Rnd6 Rnd7 F01 total 1 Jim Parker 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 415 2035 2 Rene Limberger 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 387 2007 3 Ken Bauer 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 295 1915 4 Mike McKeever 225 180 180 180 180 180 180 1305 5 Peter Allnutt 222 178 180 180 180 180 180 1300 6 Don Zink 240 180 180 180 180 180 157 1297 F1B Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Rnd4 Rnd5 Rnd6 Rnd7 FO 1 FO2 total 1 Alex Andriukov 240 180 180 180 150 150 150 300 1530 2 Walt Ghio 240 180 180 180 150 150 150 263 1493 3 Troy Davis 240 180 180 180 150 150 150 224 1454Jr High Time 4 Michael Davis 240 180 180 180 150 150 150 222 1452 5 Mike Richardson 240 180 180 180 150 150 150 1230 6 Blake Jensen 240 180 180 155 150 150 150 1205 7 Bob Tymchek 240 180 163 154 150 150 150 1187 8 Tom Ioerger dnf dnf dnf dnf 150dnf dnf 150 F1Q Rnd 1Rnd 2Rnd 3Rnd 4Rnd 5Rnd 6Rnd 7 1 Mike Pykelyn 172 180 179 180 122 180dnf 1013 F1H Rnd 1Rnd 2Rnd 3Rnd 4Rnd 5FO 1 FO 2 FO 3 1 Mike McKeever 120 120 120 120 120 600 2 Blake Jensen 120 113 120 120 120 593 3 Jim Parker 120 120 110 120 120 590 F1G Rdn1 Rnd 2Rnd 3Rnd 4Rnd 5FO 1 FO 2 1 Tiffany Odell 120 120 120 120 120 180 215 995 2 Mike Davis 120 120 120 120 120 180 120 900 3 Troy Davis 120 120 120 120 90 570 4 Mike Pykelyn 120 96 86 120 120 542 5 Bob Tymchek 9 120 120 120 120 489 6 Mike Richardson dnf 120 120 120 111 471 7 Tom Ioerger 120 120 68dnf dnf 308 F1S Rnd 1Rnd 2Rnd 3Rnd 4Rnd 5FO1 FO2 1 Matt Gewain 78 120 112 116 120 546