SEN 1609

Table of Contents - SEN 1609

  1. King Orange Report
  2. Lost Hills Bike Storage
  3. F1B stuff for sale at the Max Men
  4. Proposed F1A rule change

 


2011 KING ORANGE FAI REPORT
 
Jim Bradley
FAI Event Director
 

The weather for this years King Orange perfect. As a free flightier you couldn’t ask for nicer weather for the 3 days we flew. The first two days had 4 to 5 MPH winds all day. The last day it got a little windier in the afternoon with gust to 8 to 9 MPH. Both days were bright and sunny with temperatures into the 70’s. I actually saw a temperature sensor with a reading of 81 degrees on the second day which was the 3 minute FAI events day. This year we actually had contestants in every FAI event with only 1 event, F1C, had only 1 contestant. There were no protests filed and about the only complaint I heard was “How did I miss that last thermal?”.

The King Orange was actually a “international” contest this year with the attendance of Jama Danie from Canada flying F1A. Actually he flew down to Florida on Christmas day and test flew everyday up to the King Orange. He was trimming out all of his F1A in preparation for the February FAI contest in Lost Hills California. He won F1A with 7 maxes beating Bob Hanford who was trying to rack up as much flight time as he could to win the “Top Gun” award.

Mark Troutman who lives in Texas flew every FAI events, along with many AMA events, except F1A and F1C. Bob Hanford from Oklahoma also flew many of the FAI events, along with many AMA events, and won both F1J and F1P. He even put in a F1J flyoff flight which counted towards the “Top Gun” award. I don’t think more that 10 minutes ever went by that one of these two wasn’t flying or timing for the other one.

Other notable performance was a max out by Gil Morris in F1C flying one of his own flapped F1C models. No store bought models for Gil. Being the only F1C flyer he could have coasted to the win, but all that know Gill know that isn’t his style. Gill picked air every flight.

I would like to thank all of the FAI fliers for flying and hope we can attract more FAI fliers next year. Now that FMA has bought a late model used tractor we are able to maintain the field better. The field was in the best shape for this King Orange than it has been for a long time. Jim Demerit and Joe Clawson put in several hundred hours mowing since September. The field should be even better next year since we have several people in a Tractor Mower Operator training program. There are still opening in the training program if you interested.

 
 

 
2011 King Orange FAI Events
 
F1A
Flyer
Rd 1
Rd 2
Rd 3
Rd 4
Rd 5
Rd 6
Rd 7
F/O
Total
Jama Danie
180
180
180
180
180
180
180
 
1260
Bob Hanford
122
180
180
40
129
142
132
 
 925
 
F1B
Jim Bradley
180
180
180
180
180
169
180
 
1249

Mark Troutman

137
166
50
 
 
 
 
 
 353
 
F1C
Gil Morris
180
180
180
180
180
180
180
 
1260
 
F1P
Bob Hanford
180
180
171
180
180
180
180
 
1251

Mark Troutman

137
166
50
 
 
 
 
 
 353
 
F1Q
Rex Hinson
180
180
 
 
 
 
 
 
360
Mark Troutman
 20
 25
 15
   6
 21
 
 
 
 87
 
F1G

Mark Troutman

 96
120
120
120
120
 
 
 
576
Jim Mays
 84
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 84
 
F1H
Jean Pailet
 69
 60
120
120
 73
 
 
 
452

Mark Troutman

 68
 42
 
 
 
 
 
 
 140
 
F1J
Bob Hanford
120
120
120
120
120
 
 
128
698
Gil Morris
120
120
120
 91
120
 
 
 
571
Jean Pailet
120
120
 59
120
120
 
 
 
539

Mark Troutman

107
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
107


Bike Storage Slot at Lost Hills
 
Roger,
Could you please post in the next SCAT News:
Formerly Austin Gunder's slot and recently rebuilt Honda 90 chase bike for sale in time for Fab Feb. Standard $500.00 for the slot, bike negotiable for a fair price. I won't be able to use it for at least the next year so maybe someone else can get the same good deal I did.
Pete Reinhart, Austin, Texas
512-345-5936
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F1B stuff for sale at Max Men

 I'm planning on going to the meet Saturday the 18th and will be bringing some parts for sale. Items include wings, motor tubes, booms, front ends, blades and more. Mostly Burdov and Vivchar products. No, I'm not leaving the hobby, just making room for other stuff. You can look for me on the flight line or call my cell 909-519-8519. Let's make a deal!

See you their, Jim Lueken


Proposed FAI F1A Rule Change

Proposal from Bulgaria F1A para 3.1.2

Absolutely prohibition of radio control or any wireless
communication with F1A glider

Replace the current sentences.

“F1A models may use radio control only for irreversible
actions to restrict the flight (dethermalisation). Any
malfunction or unintended operation of these functions is
entirely at the risk of the competitor.”

by

“Any radio control or wireless communications with F1A
glider is prohibited”

Reason:

Modern electronic devices putted in F1A gliders give wide
field for unsportsmanlike behaviour. Now F1A electronically
commanded gliders are fully radio controlled and no way to
stop unsportsmanlike controlling glide path from a ground
device.

Additional technical stuff must control on starting positions
electronic devices on board or after flight to verify using of this
rule. In case of discovering any radio or wireless
communication devices on board of model on starting position
or after flight – competitor must be DQ for whole competition.

Editorial Comment.

I'm assuming that the intent is exclude radio recieving devices. so would this preclude an onboard GPS ?  And one could consider an radio tracker beacon as some more of radio communication between the model and sportsman or sportsman and model ?  Excluding a radio tracker is clearly ridiculous but the para about says any radio device.

Would it exclude short range infra red communications as is used by some people for setting electronic timers. Or Blue tooth that is by it's nature a very short range radio ?

As a person who makes electronic timers I have considered using radio communication to set the timer on the model just because it is simpler than a cable. But did not because even if I made it so it would not work once the flight had started I did not see how I could convince someone who did not want to be convinced that it was so. The other reason is that I am for technology in model to help people at reasonsable cost.  Doing this would have increased the cost of my timers.

While Radio DT has involved some rethinking of the rules, in particular around attempts it does have a net overall cost benefit for the sport. It makes smaller fields possible for flying, this reducing travel costs.  It can also save a model, possibly at the risk of a bad competition result.  With respect to the cost of the model people often think about the cost of a purchased model but I believe the greater cost is the time the sportsman to into building his own model or even the time spent trimming a bought model. This people time is the most import cost.


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Roger Morrell

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