SEN 1206 - 29 April 2008

Table of Contents - SEN 1206

  1. You Tube F1B Correction
  2. Spring Cup Results
  3. AMA BOM Rule
  4. 2008 Free Flight Forum Report

Correction for F1B on YouTube

From: Jim Parker

Roger,  for SEN---

I typed in FAI Free Flight in the U-Tube search tonight. Spotted a
video of Alex Kulakosky at the 2005 World Championship in Argentina,
the F1B 10 minute Flyoff flight.  Alex erroneously gave me credit for
the video. In fact I had gotten the video  from a Japanese CD, sorry I
do not have the correct name. Perhaps someone in SEN land can set this
straight.  I included the Japanese video on the 2006 USA Jr fund
raising CD. Alex did the re-mix of music on the U-tube version.  U-Tube
title is: World Free Flight Championship 2005. F1B flyers should study
this--  three models ready to fly in 6 minutes-- impressive.

Thermals,  JIM

16th Annual Spring Cup, Seguin

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Well as usual the weather for the Spring Cup was central to the competition. Forecasts looked daunting for both days and we expected the worst. Saturday I was awakened by heavy rain, lightning and thunder at around 3-4 AM. By the time we got to the field the rain was tapering and the wind was shifting all over the place. By 8:30 we had selected a site for the line and started flying at 9:00. Moderate winds out of the ENE lasted for the first two rounds. During the second round we experienced 180 shifts in wind direction several times, with models going off the field. We moved to our traditional launch site for the rest of the day and ended up getting in all 7 rounds as the weather actually got better and all-in-all we had a fabulous day.

Sundays forecast remained gloomy and sure enough they were right. Breezy early was an understatement, with shifting direction. We selected a line site just before the start at 8:00 with foreboding thunderstorms and roll clouds on the horizon. We accelerated everything and told everyone that it was not going to get better, boy was that an understatement. Many people packed up and hit the road (not a bad decision). Fortunately we only experienced on and off light showers as the really heavy stuff stayed just north of the field. Winds increase steadily until somewhere around 10:30. I was out looking for my F1J which left the field on my fourth flight when the REAL wind hit. When I located the model in a plowed field, I realized that it had been wind tumbled as it had a broken tip and some other structural damage. It was all I could do to walk it back to the van without further wind damage. When we got back to the flight line everyone was packing. Sustained winds were 30 mph with gusts to 35. All agreed that we had to call it a day as there was no hope of the weather improving. We have to applaud the brave (or demented) souls that flew on Sunday. Another Spring Cup in the books!

F1A (6 Flew)
1. Steve Spence 120,120,120,120,120,120,120 840
2. Dan Berry 120,120,120,108,120,120,120 828
3. Jim Troutman 120,120,120,061,097,120,104 742
4. Mike Fedor 120,120,036,120,120,120,105 741
5. Jackie Sheffer 120,120,000,120,041,120,097 618
6. Bobby Hanford 120,056,082,100,109,064,065 596

F1B (5 Flew)
1. Richard Wood 120,120,120,120,120,120,120 840
2. Gerald Brown 120,107,120,120,120,120,120 827
3. E. Vanlandingham 120,120,080,120,120,120,120 800
4. Pete Reinhart 120,112,070,120,111,110,000 643
5. Mark Troutman 075 075

F1C (3 Flew)
1. Henry Spence 120,120,120,120,120,120,120 TBD
1. Don Chesson 120,120,120,120,120,120,120 TBD
3. Mark Troutman 120,109 229

F1Q (5 Flew)
1. Dan Berry 120,120,120,120,120,120,120 840
2. Richard Wood 120,120,082,120,120,120,120 802
3. Julie Parker 003,111,069,120,058,120,110 591
4. Mike Fedor 031,076,029,022,030,058 246
5. Mark Troutman 011,011,030 52

Open Gas (9 Flew)
1. Gerald Brown 120,120,120,120,120,120,120 TBD
1. Dan Berry 120,120,120,120,120,120,120 TBD
3. Jackie Sheffer 120,120,120,120,109,120,120 829
4. Marvin Mace 120,120,120,120,120,120,092 812
5. Bobby Hanford 095,120,107,120,120,120,120 802
6. Jim Parker 120,120,120,120,120,086,120 686
7. Tom Bell 120,104,119 343
8. Mark Troutman 120,092 212
9. John Irwin 049 049

P30 (5 Flew)
1. Bob Hanford (Sr) 120,120,120,067 427
2. Gerald Brown 120,120,120,063 423
3. Pete Reinhart 090,120,120 330
4. Jim Thornton 081,063,120 264
5. Mark Troutman 056,074,066 196

F1G (4 Flew)
1. Pete Reinhart 120,096,093,088,052 449
2. Richard Wood 080,114,120,036,088 438
3. Gerald Brown 080,086,099,065 330
4. E. Vanlandingham 120,060 180

F1H (2 Flew)
1. Mike Fedor 068,074 142
2. Dan Berry 107 107

F1J (2Flew)
1. Faust Parker 120,120,120,120,000 480
2. Bobby Hanford 120 120

F1P (1Flew)
1. Bobby Hanford 120 120

NFFS Special (4 Flew)
1. Mark Troutman 120,120,120 TBD
1. Bobby Hanford 120,120,120 TBD
3. Jim Troutman 120,061,120 301
4. Dan Berry 074,064 138

Retain AMA's BOM Rule

[For those outside of the USA, there is a discussion and an up coming vote on removing the BOM - builder of the model - rule for domestic AMA contests. There has been a heated discussion on this on other electronic and print media in the USA. Gil's opinion expressed below is like that of all the authors, their own, not necessarily that of SEN]

To: "Rudy Kluber"
Sent: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:01:02 -0400
Subject: Retain AMA's BOM Rule

Hi Rudy,

AMA rules should not be compared to FAI rules. FAI is a no-hold-barred
mentality to do what ever it takes to not only make the Team but to place
high in the world. A top notch designer/builder can beat the store-bought
model(import). A serious custom built model can beat the best factory model.
I believe this is true in any pursuit, not just model airplanes.

AMA's attraction is different. It's a hobby and a sport to most and if those
folks are frustrated by flyers who simply buy (and the bought models will be
better than most hobbyist can make), the hobbyist will kick the habit --
they're not going to buy and they're not going to build just to have their
teeth knocked out.

Please vote down proposal OFF-09-4.

Gil Morris

Just Out - The 2008 BMFA Free Flight Forum Report

The twenty-fourth BMFA Free Flight Report has just come back from the
printers and I'm bracing myself for the stampede of orders. It again
covers a wide range of free-flight activities, as the following contents
list shows.

Beyond Rubber Stretch Testing - Peter King

Indoor Wood Selection - Bob Bailey

Measuring Success - Mike Woodhouse

Review of the 2007 BMFA and Combined Rubber Contest Season - Phil Ball

Small Rubber Models as an Intro to Free Flight - Chris Strachan

The Lottery of Winning - George Seyfang

Aborted Launch Solutions - Chris Edge

Lutz Schramm's F1D (Carbon and Kevlar Propeller Outlines) - Nick Aikman

Transportable Wind Tunnels - George Seyfang

Comments on Thermal Picking and Related Matters in Odessa '07 - Alan Jack

Balsa for Indoor Models - Mark Benns

The Zombie Flight Profiler: Advanced Motor Control for Electric Free Flight

- Jonathan Crossley

Thoughts on Safety - Manny Williamson

Electronic Timers - Roger Morrell


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