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Omarama Cup New Zealand April 28-30 - Murphy
Kotuku Cup New Zealand April 24-26 - Wallace
Big Al's Update - Ghio
Estonian Cup, BALTIC CUP - Ossi K
EFFC - Wagner
Re-entry cut off - Woodhouse
Vintage a/2 memories - Mate
Buy back..multiple entries. - SkyKieng
Vol Libre issue 168
Saran for sale - Markos
Omarama Cup New Zealand April 28-30
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Perfect weather, dead air in the first rounds, tricky lift later,
no wind.
Results
F1A 28 April 2006
Name RD 1 RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 RD7 FLYOFFLYOF TOTAL
Robert Wallace 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 1590
Henning Nyhegn 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 289 1579
Phil Mitchell 210 180 176 180 180 180 180 1286
Vin Morgan 210 180 180 175 180 180 180 1285
Ardo Parna 186 180 180 180 180 180 180 1266
Ed Carroll 210 180 180 149 180 180 180 1259
Bill McGarvey 176 180 180 180 180 180 180 1256
Gottfried Bachmann 177 180 180 157 180 180 180 1234
Tahn Stowe 165 180 180 180 180 163 180 1228
Stewart Cox 157 180 180 180 170 176 180 1223
Craig King 210 180 180 180 180 180 105 1215
Brian Van Nest 210 0 164 180 180 180 180 1094
Jon Davis 210 180 84 180 78 180 171 1083
Anthony Koerbin 0 180 180 180 180 180 180 1080
Lincoln Vincent 115 85 74 56 82 72 180 664
Moira Vincent 49 74 22 180 89 40 70 524
Richard Dalziel 0 111 51 51 0 0 0 213
F1B 29 April 2006
Name RD1 RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 RD7 FLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Anselmo Zeri 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 1590
Paul Squires 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 219 1509
Leigh Morgan 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 218 1508
Antony Koerbin 208 180 180 180 180 180 180 1288
Brian Van Nest 210 180 180 166 180 180 180 1276
Terry Bond 210 180 180 180 180 133 180 1243
Roger Morrell 210 180 180 180 126 180 180 1236
John Malkin 210 180 164 180 163 153 180 1230
William Jones 210 180 180 167 180 180 110 1207
Lincoln Vincent 201 180 180 180 123 180 148 1192
Alan McDonald 101 180 180 149 180 180 180 1150
Richard Dalziel 123 140 124 128 180 180 173 1048
Stewart Cox 142 146 180 180 180 140 968
F1C 29 April 2006
Name RD1 RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 RD7 FLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Mike Roberts 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 321 1941
Ed Carroll 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 267 1887
Roy Summersby 240 180 180 180 180 163 180 1303
Phil Smith 199 180 134 180 180 180 180 1233
Henning Nyhegn 208 180 180 180 180 117 180 1225
Bill East 240 180 180 180 180 107 150 1217
Rex Bain 178 57 180 180 180 180 156 1111
** the second flyoff was the next morning and Ed had a lean run but both
planes landed with 100 metres of the flight line - perfect
weather !
F1H 30 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 FLYOFFLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Brian Van Nest 120 120 120 120 406 1006
Robert Wallace 120 120 120 120 228 828
Phil Mitchell 120 120 115 120 595
Vin Mozrgan 69 122
Lincoln Vincent 51 38 89
F1G 30 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 FLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
William Jones 120 120 101 120 581
Terry Bond 120 109 88 120 557
Chris Murphy 72 29 37 120 314
F1J 30 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 FLYOFFLYOFFLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Roy Summersby 120 120 120 120 256 856
Mike Roberts 120 120 120 120 254 854
Ed Carroll 120 120 120 120 146 746
Kiwi Power 30 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 FLYOFTOTAL
Roy Summersby 120 120 360
Chris Murphy 120 84 250
P30 30 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 FLYOFTOTAL
Richard Dalziel 95 73 236
Dave Jackson 74 83 223
Chris Murphy 65 75 209
Stewart Cox 73 44 195
HLG 30 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 FLYOFTOTAL
Phil Smith 55 39 35 60 60 282
Stewart Cox 31 33 52 60 30 266
Chris Murphy 32 33 45 42 40 250
Tahn Stowe 26 35 37 44 22 205
Richard Dalziel 30 28 33 27 31 186
Dave Jackson 21 12 26 38 43 172
CLG 30 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 FLYOFTOTAL
Stewart Cox 35 50 44 58 60 294
Tahn Stowe 38 51 25 30 46 232
Phil Smith 34 38 24 37 36 203
Dave Jackson 24 27 23 24 30 167
Chris Murphy 26 34 12 30 25 147
Kotuku Cup New Zealand April 24-26
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Results
F1A 24 April 2006
Name RD 1 RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 RD7 FLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Robert Wallace 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 296 1886
Craig King 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 269 1859
Brian Van Nest 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 289 1579
Stewart Cox 210 180 180 180 180 172 180 1282
Vin Morgan 210 180 180 180 159 180 180 1269
Phil Mitchell 210 180 180 180 153 180 180 1263
Jon Davis 210 180 159 172 180 180 180 1261
Ed Carroll 210 180 180 178 180 180 135 1243
Ardo Parna 210 180 180 180 180 180 121 1231
Bill McGarvey 185 180 180 180 180 180 121 1206
Tahn Stowe 160 180 160 180 180 180 133 1173
Anthony Koerbin 210 180 61 180 180 180 180 1171
Henning Nyhegn 70 180 180 180 180 180 180 1150
Gottfried Bachmann 144 82 180 180 180 123 180 1069
Moira Vincent 110 117 80 83 46 47 180 663
Richard Dalziel 142 136 107 0 0 0 0 385
Lincoln Vincent 114 58 0 148 0 0 0 320
F1B 25 April 2006
Name RD 1 RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 RD7 FLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Roger Morrell 210 180 180 180 157 180 180 1267
Paul Squires 183 180 180 180 180 166 180 1249
William Jones 164 180 180 180 180 180 180 1244
David Ackery 184 180 180 180 180 180 153 1237
Terry Bond 210 180 180 180 180 102 180 1212
Leigh Morgan 210 58 180 180 180 176 180 1164
John Malkin 210 180 143 180 180 89 180 1162
Karen Kenmir 179 180 180 180 180 103 147 1149
Brian Van Nest 164 180 0 180 180 180 155 1039
Anselmo Zeri 210 180 180 180 28 180 0 958
Lincoln Vincent 22 119 166 109 180 97 92 785
Alan McDonald 210 180 180 168 31 0 0 769
Richard Dalziel 102 120 125 78 93 40 0 558
Stewart Cox 180 180 77 119 0 0 0 556
Darren Porter 130 72 0 0 0 0 0 202
F1C 25 April 2006
Name RD1 RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 RD7 FLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Roy Summersby 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 1320
Mike Roberts 230 180 180 180 180 180 180 1310
Ed Carroll 240 149 180 180 180 180 180 1289
Phil Smith 174 178 180 180 180 180 109 1181
Bill East 205 102 132 0 0 0 0 439
Mini Combined 27 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 FLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Brian Van Nest 120 120 120 120 845 1445
Ed Carroll 120 120 120 120 549 1149
Roy Summersby 120 120 120 120 488 1088
Mike Roberts 120 120 120 120 427 1027
Terry Bond 120 120 120 115 595
Paul Squires 120 115 120 120 582
William Jones 120 120 120 99 579
Phil Mitchell 120 120 120 120 577
Bill McGarvey 120 81 119 90 523
Antony Koerbin 74 120 69 120 503
Chris Murphy 57 48 110 0 332
Vin Morgan 120 0 0 0 140
*** Note Mr van Nest and his F1H beat those omnipotent F1Js head to
head in a unlimited flyoff .. with the aide of a little magic !
Open Combined 27 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 FLYOFFLYOFTOTAL
Paul Squires 180 180 151 691
Leigh Morgan 180 180 131 671
William Jones 180 180 125 665
Bill McGarvey 180 180 114 654
Lincoln Vincent 180 153 513
Richard Dalziel 168 150 498
Chris Murphy 144 121 419
Stewart Cox 0 0 23
HLG 27 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 FLYOFTOTAL
Dave Jackson 56 44 33 60 60 305
Phil Smith 41 36 28 60 60 282
Richard Dalziel 31 60 38 23 52 253
Craig King 30 30 53 42 49 239
Stewart Cox 39 25 40 33 37 224
Tahn Stowe 60 20 29 42 19 204
CLG 27 April 2006
Name RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 FLYOFTOTAL
Tahn Stowe 60 50 39 60 32 287
Phil Smith 34 37 28 37 32 199
Dave Jackson 21 40 23 28 42 197
Chris Murphy 50 15 18 25 60 188
Stewart Cox 22 29 19 25 28 153
Big Al's Update
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Just a reminder that Big Al's FAI contest is on May 26, 27 and
28th. F1E will start Friday at 12 Noon on the Holiday Hill to the
Southeast of the main flying field. Eight, half hour rounds will be
flown. That evening we will be having a seven flight no round
contest for F1ABC with flyoff's to determine a Champagne winner.
Saturday will be a seven round contest for the F1ABCP events.
Sunday, Big Al's two round 'Shootout' will start
the day at
6:30am. For flyers that still need qualifying time for the finals a
winner take all money contest is Sunday morning also. The F1GHJP
events will start at 10am. F1P will be flown only for five rounds on
Sunday. Please bring a timer along for all flyoffs and enjoy the
weekend.
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Estonian Cup, BALTIC CUP
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Hi Roger,
Here you have results of the Baltic World Cups.
It was sunny but mostly windy up to 12 meters. Estonia Cup we had stop after 3
rounds when some models went to the village and people asked high 'reward '.
After the police visited and wind settled some in the evening we
could continue.
Ossi
Estonian Free Flight Cup 2006
Open International Aeromodelling Contest - World Cup 2006 04 29
F1A
Name Cou Lic No I II III IV V FlyOff
1 Matti Lihtamo FINFIN-359 180 150 150 150 150 300 1080
2 Halbmeier Dirk GERGER-2738 180 150 150 150 150 212 992
3 Herwig Willi GERGER-3120 180 150 150 150 127 757
4 Per Findahl SWESWE-15125 160 150 140 150 150 750
5 Kimmo Kulmakko FINFIN-1212 180 150 150 117 150 747
6 Rimas Indrisonis LTULTU-005 180 150 150 150 97 727
7 Ular Vihul ESTEST-0070 180 150 150 86 150 716
8 Vesturs Berzins LAT229 YL 180 150 70 150 143 693
9 Vidas Dimavicius LTULTU-137 180 150 150 60 150 690
10 Urmas Kokk ESTEST-0290 62 146 150 150 150 658
11 Jari Valo FINFIN-1654 180 21 150 140 141 632
12 Isotalo Tommi FINFIN-3655 80 150 135 107 144 616
13 John Carter GBRGBR 50520 104 150 90 138 127 609
14 Davis Berzins LAT231 YL 180 150 52 22 150 554
15 Zaliaskas Mindaugas LTU 180 0 137 133 96 546
16 Meri Niiranen FINFIN-4775 180 150 41 85 56 512
17 Ossi Kilpelainen FINFIN-275 78 150 16 150 79 473
18 Valve Runnari FINFIN-2284 36 139 150 50 50 425
19 Gundars Abolins LAT233 YL 180 97 0 0 0 277
20 Vladyslav Lazarevych UKRUKR-220 180 71 0 0 0 251
21 Janis Sprogis LAT234 YL 85 150 0 0 0 235
22 Weimer Thomas GERGER-2073 180 52 0 0 0 232
23 Bo Nyhegn DENDEN1183 180 0 0 0 0 180
24 Gintaras Trimatas LTULTU-460 180 0 0 0 0 180
25 Jes Nyhegn DENDEN2242 180 0 0 0 0 180
26 Joona Lehtovirta FINFIN-4519 180 0 0 0 0 180
27 Sorochenkovs Arturs LAT273 YL 180 0 0 0 0 180
28 Herwig Max GERGER-3086 42 0 0 103 24 169
29 Andrijs Plume LAT254 YL 133 0 0 0 0 133
30 Bukauskas Mantas LTULTU-464 0 115 0 0 0 115
31 Petri Kuikka FINFIN-2964 112 0 0 0 0 112
32 Klezys Vytas LTU 83 23 0 0 0 106
33 Laura Leino FINFIN-3932 96 0 0 0 0 96
34 Janis Zarins LAT237 YL 85 0 0 0 0 85
35 Arturs Kirsteins LAT250 YL 65 0 0 0 0 65
36 Dave Oldfield GBRGBR31734 64 0 0 0 0 64
37 Deniz Varhos SWESWE-33987 52 0 0 3 0 55
38 Bernotas Aurimas LTULTU-398 50 0 0 0 0 50
39 Modestas Snukiskis LTULTU-342 50 0 0 0 0 50
40 Steffen Jensen DENDEN1006 43 0 0 0 0 43
41 Ants Selgoja ESTEST-0025 40 0 0 0 0 40
42 Teemu Taponen FINFIN-4517 39 0 0 0 0 39
43 Oskars Grigals LAT238 YL 20 0 0 0 0 20
44 Katsen Kongstad DENDEN640 0 0 0 0 0 0
45 Mackus Rolandas LTULTU-232 0 0 0 0 0 0
46 Pieter de Boer NEDNED-03541 0 0 0 0 0 0
47 Sigitas Jakutis LTULTU-081 0 0 0 0 0 0
48 Wilkening Fritz GERGER-90 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1B 2006 04 29
1 David Thorsen SWE SWE-30719 180 150 150 150 150 265 1045
2 Virginijus IvancikasLTU-ELTU-325 180 150 150 150 150 230 1010
3 Yrjo Waltonen FIN FIN-681 180 150 132 150 150 762
4 Russell Peers GBR GBR 27418 180 150 88 150 150 718
5 Denis Astapenko LAT 244 YL 133 150 150 125 119 677
6 Klaus W. Salzer AUT AUT 320019003 180 150 150 119 72 671
7 Michael Dalin SWE SWE 180 150 78 139 118 665
8 Benediktas Rukas LTU-ULTU-463 180 111 109 70 48 518
9 Teppo Sarpila FIN FIN-573 0 130 150 150 74 504
10 Juhani Isotalo FIN FIN-3639 180 0 0 150 137 467
11 Janne Isotalo FIN FIN-3721 180 0 0 146 131 457
12 Indrek Harjo EST EST-0050 180 150 0 0 0 330
13 Michael Woodhouse GBR GBR 37262 180 150 0 0 0 330
14 Rolandas Mackus LTU-ULTU-232 180 150 0 0 0 330
15 Mike Woolner GBR GBR 57957 155 150 0 0 0 305
16 Regimantas PilkauskaLTU-BLTU-462 180 62 0 0 0 242
17 Viktors Rosonoks LAT 006 YL 110 0 0 0 0 110
18 Vladimir Romancenko UKR UKR- 229 86 0 0 0 0 86
19 Romans Demcenko (JLAT 255 YL 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1C 2006 04 29
1 Maris Voits LAT 109 YL 180 150 150 150 150 780
2 Juri Roots EST EST-0039 180 139 132 150 101 702
3 Volodymyr Sychov UKR UKR 245 135 150 92 150 150 677
4 Arunas Grasys LTU-ULTU-283 180 44 150 150 150 674
5 Claus Gretter GER GER-2784 71 132 59 114 150 526
6 John Cuthbert GBR GBR 51781 180 0 0 0 0 180
7 Roberts Brivnieks LAT 061 YL 180 0 0 0 0 180
8 Naaber Raimond EST EST-0038 180 0 0 0 0 180
9 Kaarle Kuuka FIN FIN-2651 113 0 0 0 0 113
10 Timo Niiranen FIN FIN-2673 106 0 0 0 0 106
11 Sergej Katyba UKR UKR 277 12 0 0 0 0 12
12 Ilmars Breidaks LAT 228 YL 0 0 0 0 0 0
BALTIC CUP 2006 Open International Aeromodelling Contest - World Cup 2006 04
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F1A
Name Coun Lic No I II III IV V Total
1 Weimer Thomas GER GER-2073 180 180 180 150 150 840
2 Matti Lihtamo FIN FIN-359 180 180 180 150 147 837
3 Janis Sprogis LAT 234 YL 162 180 180 150 150 822
4 John Carter GBR GBR 50520 180 159 180 150 150 819
5 Deniz Varhos SWE SWE-33987 180 180 180 127 150 817
6 Vladyslav Lazarevych UKR UKR-220 180 180 180 123 150 813
7 Per Findahl SWE SWE-15125 180 180 172 118 150 800
8 Halbmeier Dirk GER GER-2738 180 180 140 150 150 800
9 Pieter de Boer NED NED-035411 180 180 180 107 150 797
10 Steffen Jensen DEN DEN1006 167 180 144 150 150 791
11 Klezys Vytas (jLTU 170 163 180 115 150 778
12 Janis Zarins LAT 237 YL 180 180 180 85 150 775
13 Kimmo Kulmakko FIN FIN-1212 180 117 180 150 131 758
14 Isotalo Tommi FIN FIN-3655 144 180 120 150 150 744
15 Herwig Willi GER GER-3120 180 82 180 150 150 742
16 Jari Valo FIN FIN-1654 180 180 180 24 150 714
17 Justinas BartkeviciusLTU-LTU-466 146 180 88 150 135 699
18 Herwig Max GER GER-3086 58 180 180 150 127 695
19 Joona Lehtovirta FIN FIN-4519 180 90 180 91 150 691
20 Valve Runnari FIN FIN-2284 149 93 180 150 100 672
21 Bernotas Aurimas (JuLTU-LTU-398 155 0 180 150 140 625
22 Anrijs Plume (JLAT 254 YL 179 135 0 150 137 601
23 Petri Kuikka FIN FIN-2964 169 143 0 150 108 570
24 Arturs Kirsteins LAT 250 YL 110 44 104 150 150 558
25 Ossi Kilpelainen FIN FIN-275 104 159 90 83 97 533
26 Davis Berzins LAT 231 YL 122 97 180 0 0 399
27 Gundars Abolins LAT 233 YL 180 158 55 0 0 393
28 Sorochenkovs Artis (LAT 273 YL 77 57 129 35 62 360
29 Dave Oldfield GBR GBR31734 180 120 46 0 0 346
30 Bo Nyhegn DEN DEN1183 180 134 0 0 0 314
31 Ular Vihul EST EST-0070 180 68 64 0 0 312
32 Vesturs Berzins (LAT 229 YL 114 147 44 0 0 305
33 Zilinskas Edvardas (LTU-LTU-441 153 102 0 0 0 255
34 Modestas Snukiskis LTU-LTU-342 0 180 0 0 0
180
35 Laura Leino FIN FIN-3932 180 0 0 0 0 180
36 Wilkening Fritz GER GER-90 152 0 0 0 0 152
37 Jes Nyhegn DEN DEN2242 59 0 0 0 0 59
38 Teemu Taponen (JuFIN FIN-4517 12 0 0 0 0 12
39 Vidas Dimavicius LTU-LTU-137 0 0 0 0 0 0
40 Rimas Indrisonis LTU-LTU-005 0 0 0 0 0
0
41 Bukauskas Mantas (JLTU-LTU-464 0 0 0 0 0 0
42 Sigitas Jakutis LTU-LTU-081 0 0 0 0 0 0
43 Mackus Rolandas LTU-LTU-232 0 0 0 0 0 0
44 Zaliauskas Mindaugas LTU 0 0 0 0 0 0
45 Meri Niiranen (JuFIN FIN-4775 0 0 0 0 0 0
46 Urmas Kokk EST EST-0290 0 0 0 0 0 0
47 Katsen Kongstad DEN DEN640 0 0 0 0 0 0
48 Oskars Grigals LAT 238 YL 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1B
1 Mike Woolner GBR GBR57957 180 180 180 150 150 840
2 Michael Dahlin SWE SWE- 180 180 176 150 150 836
3 Vladimir Romancenko UKR UKR-229 180 180 162 150 150 822
4 Rolandas Mackus LTU-LTU-232 180 180 143 150 150 803
5 Klaus W. Salzer AUT AUT 320019 180 180 142 150 150 802
6 David Thorsen SWE SWE-30719 180 180 149 150 129 788
7 Teppo Sarpila FIN FIN-573 180 180 180 87 150 777
8 Michael Woodhouse GBR GBR 113 180 180 150 142 765
9 Regimantas Pilkauskas LTU-LTU-462 134 108 115 150 150 657
10 Juhani Isotalo FIN FIN-3639 180 180 0 83 150 593
11 Denis Astapenko LAT 244 YL 118 112 50 69 150 499
12 Russell Peers GBR GBR27418 180 180 70 0 0 430
13 Ribinskas Audrius (JuLTU-LTU-468 137 60 107 80 24 408
14 Valiukonis Vytautas LTU-LTU-467 75 90 0 0 0 165
15 Benediktas Rukas (JuLTU-LTU-463 0 57 0 0 0 57
16 Indrek Harjo EST EST-0050 0 0 0 0 0 0
17 Yrjo Waltonen FIN FIN-681 0 0 0 0 0 0
18 Janne Isotalo FIN FIN-3721 0 0 0 0 0 0
19 Romans Demcenko (Jun)LAT 255 YL 0 0 0 0 0 0
20 Viktors Rosonoks LAT 006 YL 0 0 0 0 0 0
21 Virginijus Ivancikas LTU-LTU-325 0 0 0 0 0 0
F1C
1 Juri Roots EST EST-0039 180 180 180 150 150 840
2 Volodimir Sychov UKR UKR 180 180 180 150 122 812
3 Maris Voits LAT 180 180 180 150 0 690
4 John Cuthbert GBR GBR 051781 180 180 180 43 0 583
5 Kaarle Kuuka FIN FIN-2651 180 0 0 0 0 180
6 Sergej Katyba UKR UKR-277 0 125 0 0 0 125
7 Arunas Grasys LTU-LTU-283 0 0 0 0 0
0
8 Claus Gretter GER GER-2784 0 0 0 0 0 0
9 Danas Babenskas LTU-LTU-079 0 0 0 0 0 0
10 Ilmars Breidaks LAT 228 YL 0 0 0 0 0 0
11 Naaber Raimond EST EST-0038 0 0 0 0 0 0
12 Robertas Kiburtas LTU-LTU-169 0 0 0 0 0 0
13 Roberts Brivnieks LAT 061 YL 0 0 0 0 0 0
14 Timo Niiranen FIN FIN-2673 0 0 0 0 0 0
EFFC
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Roger I would appreciate your mentioning that our EUSFFC Meet for June 10th
and 11th is a National Cup and America's Cup Meet. There has been some
confusion in particular with the America's Cup designation. There are going
to be 3 America's Cup Meets at Wawayanda in NY: a competitor can fly in all
3 but can only utilize the points from two, the competitor will have to make
that choice. The National Cup points accumulated at all 3 meets will count
under a one time only, special exception, granted to the EFFC for this meet.
Thanks, Joe Wagner
Re-entry cut off
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I reckon that the cut off comes when, daylight, money or the legs give out!
Michael J Woodhouse, Norwich, UK.
on 28/4/06 11:33, SCAT user at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. wrote:
> contest re entry.
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>
> Roger in rebuttle to john l question about re entry at
> contests.
> i believe we used to do this years ago when i flew in
> the north east.
> what would be the cut off?
> how many times could yoy pay to re enter?
> soppose you had a string of 10 maxrs and droped the 11
> max and somebody had made twelve maxes would you be
> allowed to re enter at this time?
> or would the re entry be for the first three offical
> flights only?
> interesting huh?
> don
Vintage a/2 memories
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OMG!! I just typed for 45 min. with some great comments and because of a
couple of pop ups I lost it!!!
I will try again. Thanks Leeper for sending us Oskar Czepa 1951 World Champ
from Austria's website. I practically coppied the whole thing. Especially
the 1951 champion model the "Toothpick" Why? I had the pleasure and honor of
flying and competing with him when he was here and an Aeronut. I also was
one then. We competed in FAI Elims when he was here. I don't remember where
but there was a nearby lake or very wide river. Maybe the Mississippi. I was
doing great and in there with him when my A/2 went out across the river OOS.
Incidently I was using .004 steel music wire for a towline. Anybody
remember? If so where was it? The wire towline caused quite a stir. One
advantage was no drag sag during towing.
I have comments and questions and his e-mail addy does not work so I cannot
ask him. In his 1955-1957 Chicago pics he is shown with a couple of A/2's. I
think the one "A2" with the brass nose is Gerry Ritz's. If you want to see
what pre "Continental" Ritz A/2's looked like, there it is in Czepa's hand.
It like all the Chicago models pictured in this series is all balsa. I think
when Ritz opened his balsa stash to Ossi he went crazy. It seems everyone
was doing all balsa including my buddy Pete Vacco. But when he and others
needed to change wng warps it was a disaster. With a balsa skin it is
impossible. Guys were going back to open construction as Gerry's World
Champion "Continental" testifies. Of course Ossi's sweet little Half A
gassie "Shriek" in this series did not have this problem with a single
surface Jedelsky wing. It flew great. I was inspired and did my own version
of the VHTL forward fin job. V dihedral all balsa Jedelsky and a miserable
failure. Sal Taibi saw it loop and loop and said," How can it do that, the
engine is up so high?" Ossi had an Atwood Shriek in his and I had a TD. I
doubt that was the reason but maybe?
The last photo in ths series titled "Diskussion" shows three guys, Goldberg,
Czepa and ?? Anybody know who he is? Don't say Roul Hoffman cuz it is not
him. Another tidbit is why Carl started the Aeronuts. He was an IMAC and
Dickenson the seed millionaire was the boss. He kicked out Carl for making a
business out of our hobby.The boss said NO! Right Don Lockwood? He told me
that.
Back to Czepa. In 1987 Ossi finally goes to pollyhedral from V. Also
solveing the chasing problem by going to R/C. What do you think guys is it
time? The first ship, Bartgeier Vers.1 still V dihedral and has a tip
washout trick I never saw before. A two bay negative angle to about mid
chord and then a step to the primary surface. Anyone else ever tried it? He
has a great little movie clip flying it R/C. With the 3rd version he goes
polly. Then he goes to powered glider, presumably too lazy to tow, LOL, naw
probably not. Tho he is putting on weight, I should talk.
Next in 1992 the Solitaire and in 1993 the So long both look like they may
be solar powered. In 1993 he is pictured with Helmut BruB, must be
important, anybody know who he is? In 2000 the Volatus Longus, back to tip
dihedral. In 1980 bis 2005 "R/C- Wakefield" and "min-Re"back to polly. In
2001 the R/C electric "Quäntchen" in 2 versions polly and curved tip
dihedral. Finally 2005 the polly version with tiplets. The R/C Wakefield is
later shown. Quite a masterpiece. Did Ossie build and design it? Ossi I
salute you on your modelling vitality, ever creating and forging ahead.
Anyone wanting any of these pics let me know.
Regards, Ed Mate
Buy back..multiple entries.
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Being fellow MMMMMer I will add my understanding concerning the question. A
few years ago The MMM turned thumbs down on the formal re-entry idea
and adopted the concept of multiple entries designed to encourage extra
flying at our friendly monthly bashes.
First important point to be made is that no extra fee is
involved. We have a flat $5.00 entry fee to fly anything and everything.
Now maybe I have this wrong but one cannot re-enter the same event/class
in the same manner as started. Where the opportunity
to be utilized is in the special case of where we have combined classes --
such as ABC gas combined -- i.e., combined in one event. So, for example,
If one is flying A and finishes up he/she can then grab a B or C ship --
or Super D and fly that as a multiple entry ... and so on down or up the line.
One ;could ;conceivably grab first place in all classes in that
combined event! Hey! That's a neat feat!
Same for the Two Minute Event where different classes
are combined... (bomb out with your A-1 and then go grab an F1J .o
r one of those little rubber jobs that fit the specs) When HLG and
Catapult were combined one could do a set of times with either class and e
nter two sets of times ...if one took the option of combining a set of flights
using different types, then not. (But because of their popularity we now
fly the events separately. Therefore, no multiple entries.
In the past we combined Classic Gas, Nostalgia, and MMM'S
rpm version of Slow Open Power. That presented another opportunity for multiple
entries. This year the misbegotten ;Classic Gass class
has been moved and is now combined with Open Power...So ;there is an
other opportunity to put more toy airplanes in the sky.
The multiple entry idea is better than frustating flying or merely
mindlessly bloating ;the list of seperate events...this way there is
a meaningfull number of entrants flying against each other to gve the n
eeded illusion of competition.
To sum up MMM does not have re-entry in that one wipes out his/her bad
score, pays money, and starts afresh. That is not fair
to the others ... the old score stands. But if there are multiple classes
in that event the underachieving contestant -- or merely overly ambitious
flyer -- can dive back into the fray using a different class airplane. (now as
I understand it one can mix the classes to achieve a single score ...if you
lose your A ship you can finish your flights using another
class..that only makes
sense seeing it is after all a combined class event)
Now it is conceivable that some of the many MMM contest directors
have not gotten this
straight and THINK that re-entry is allowed and have even allowed it. Such things happen. There
is even a remote possibility that I'm wrong. But how often
does that happen?
But concerning my esteemed bud Jerry Murphy, he was off screwing
around in Europe when the august body of MMM got together at one of
their annual meetings and voted re-entry out and multiple in. But of cour
se some poeple don't get the word, ;while other forget ;and ;f
ine details get disremembered, so to speak.
Sincerely, the forgotten "father of folders" and other such aero
nautical exotica, billious skykieng
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Hi Roger,
The old-style Saran Wrap has not been available for over a year in grocery
store shelves. To me, it is unparalleled for many construction and repair
operations with composite materials and epoxy resins. Since epoxy does not
stick to polyvinylidene choride (Saran) it is very useful as a release film.
In
addition, it shrinks about 15% when heated to about 150 degrees F. These
two properties allow constructions that cure rapidly in an oven and do not
require a vacuum-bagging apparatus. I make D-box shells, mold propellers,
repair tailbooms, and form CF/Kevlar motor tubes with it.
After searching through the aisles for a suitable substitute without
success, a source has been found for a Saran film that is actually an improvem
ent
over the food-wrap as it is a bit heavier (60 gauge vs 45 gauge). It has been
tested in several construction modes and found to behave better than its
predecesor. It was shipped to me in 100-ft rolls 11.5 inches wide.
Since I had to buy more than my own projects require, I do have a limited
suppy available at $15 per roll, shipping to US addresses included. It is
pricey, but there is no substitute available. I do not know what demand ther
e
is for this product, so do not send me a check until you email me for
availability.
Chuck Markos
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Roger Morrell
