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News and Reports 2003
SCAT Electronic News 23 November 2003 issue 835
Table of Contents
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Patterson FAI results
Konkurs in Poland
Re:inflatoplane article
Buntero for Sale
F1C Brake Housing for Sale
NFFS home page photo
Palm stuff
FAT CAT
Autumn Cup Results
Innovations please!
The Ulms
Italiano is selected to AMA Hall of Fame
AmCup Contest
Contest report wanted
F1A model in Muncie
Thanks
Patterson FAI results
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The 2003 Patterson FAI Contest was held at Lost Hills in fine weather on
Nov 15&16.
The entry was very good, with 55 fliers making 75 entries in the 6 events.
The Mini events were held Sat from 7:30-11:15 with FOs ~4:30pm.
The format for ABC was 10 rounds, with 5 on Sat from 11am-4pm,
then 5 on Sun from 7:30am-12:30, followed by FOs as reqd.
Extended Max performance rounds were the 5th & 6th for ABC.
Mostly overcast skies graced our flights most of Sat & Sun, with light and
variable drifts for the most part. The western range was
not visible early Sun, with the ceiling about 1000ft.
The Results:
F1A
1. M. McKeever 2998
2. B. Van Nest 2986
3. L. Hines 2143
4. J. Parker 1979
5.= N. Smith 1978
5.= K. Bauer 1978
7. R. Limberger 1974
8. B. Bauer 1972
9. H. Diez 1970
10. P. Barron 1967
11.= D. Zink 1938
11.= B. Coussens 1938
13. E. Busnelli 1886
14. T. Coussens 1849
15. D. Parker 1815
16. P. Brocks 1696
17. P. Allnutt 1663
18. L. Tetrick 1574
19. A. Barron 1331
20. G. Ulm 1298
21. F. Terzian 1102
22. C. Cusick 818
23. D. Clark 743
F1B
1. G. Batiuk 2033
2. B. Jensen 2026
3. R. Morrell 2018
4. R. Piserchio 2015
5. J. Pratt 1975
6. M. Schroedter 1959
7. L. Norvall 1955
8. P. Scheiman 1928
9. J. Emery 1902
10. J. Schroedter 1901
11. A. Ulm 1896
12. G. Schroedter 1871
13. G. Jensen 1829
14. R. Wood 1794
15. R. Gildersleeve 987
16. R. Rohrke 933
F1C
1. T. Kerger 2280
2. D. Shirley 2174
3. D. Perkins 2038
4. D. Joyce 1952
5. E. Carroll 1890
6. P. Sahlberg 918
F1G
1. G. Schroedter 873
2. R. Tymchek 850
3. M. Schroedter 847
4. J. Clapp 831
5. W. Gannon 784
6. R. Morrell 597
7. A. Raymond 595
8. P. Brocks 591
9.= J. Emery 582
9.= R. White 582
11.= L. Norvall 581
11.= R. Secor 581
13. J. Schroedter 575
14. R. Wood 64
F1H
1. B. Van Nest 864
2. D. Parker 843
3. M. McKeever 810
4. L. Hines 807
5. J. Livotto 723
6. N. Smith 571
7. C. Cusick 505
8. F. Terzian 360
9. B. Coussens 348
10. E. Busnelli 117
11. T. Coussens 84
12. R. Norton 30
F1J
1. C. Secor 600
2. E. Carroll 489
3. D. Shirley 240
After the prizegiving, several stayed to fly in the calm,
virtually liftless conditions and chat until sundown.
The end of a bluebird weekend, in fact.
Wish all of you could have been there!
Ciao,
from Leeper, the Scribe
Konkurs in Poland
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We receoived a long e-mail in Polish about a major
modelling event with participation from many disciplines.
We were relcutant to publish this because it was hard
to understand as we do not handle accented characters well
to say nothing that out Polish is somewhat limited.
However we are including their web site below.
I would not get the English link on the web site to work
but it may be been the browser I was using.
Tel. 0-42 6739999, Fax. 0-42 6739933
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , www.modelarskie.pl
Re:inflatoplane article
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Dear Sirs;
A few years ago I saw a special on the discovery channel attributing =
to the inflatoplane article described in a related website.
The inflatoplane was designed as a spy plane / recon plane during WWII .
To bring agents in behind enemy lines undetected. It could land on
either land or water and be folded up to hide in the brush until it
could later be retrieved.
The film clip was quite interesting and with the ammount of
enthusiasts now involved with ultralight aviation and alternative
transportation it could prove a very popular idea with of course
modifications for todays standards.
If you have any further information regarding this plane I would
really like to learn more. Thank You !
R Walker
Buntero for Sale
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When starting F1A again Mr. Lee Hines gave me some good advice on
planes. L'il Al is really a super bird. Buntero is quite simillar.
However, I can't get enough flying time for this bird as W.European
flying weather is not really suited for a plane with this wingspan (2525
mm) Because of this I decided this plane is better off with somebody
else. So it's for sale!!!
Either with or without the electronics. The electronics consist of a BM
timer, a Multiplex digital speed servo for the stab and a Graupner
DS281, digital servo, for the fin.
For more details you can contact me on
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Arno Hacken
Johannesstrasse 14
52538 Selfkant-T=FCddern
Deutschland / Germany
tel.: 00-49-(0)2456-509615
mob.: 00-49-(0)162-9063548
e-mail:
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F1C Brake Housing for Sale
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F1C Brake housings For Sale.
Quality machined aluminum Brake Housings for the Nelson 15. This is a
machined housing that includes the drilling and tapping for a 2-56 bolt to
clamp the housing in place. The front of the housing has been machined for
the cocking/locking of the brake wire arm. They are complete with the
exception of the 2-56 bolt, needing the brake wire installed, and drilling
the hole to anchor the brake wire. (.038 wire is recommended). They also
have an accompanying aluminum tapered cone for expanding the brake wire coil
to slide over the brake shoe for measuring the bends.
I use them myself, a quality housing.
Sale price:
1 housing plus cone - $9.00, plus $2.00 postage.
2 housings plus 2 cones - 15.00, plus $2.50 postage
3 housings or more plus cones - $7.00 each, plus postage (computed based on
quantity purchased)
I can be reached at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or (903) 677-8525
Mail checks to:
Reid Simpson
115 Trailridge Dr
Athens, TX 75751
NFFS home page photo
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Hi Roger,
I refer our SEN readers to the NFFS web site home page cover photo.
It currently has two SoCal young lions of our sport,
Ben Coussens and Rene Limberger, front and center at the Nov 1st
Southwest FAI Challenge, Nevada!
Looking good, gents!
Ciao,
Leeper, the Scribe
Palm stuff
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There has been a nunber of questions about the right kind of palm Pilots for th
e
Black and Red magic timers. These need a a palm with a serial port. The newest
bottom of the line model the Zire , does not have this capability. Some other
Zires do, although I have not tested them personally.
The palm Factory store and a number of others are selling older model palms for
very low prices. it is possible to get a M100 for 39.99 and M105 for 49.99.
These prices change all the time. I sam a more fancy M500 for only 79.99 the
other day. What is important is to get a monochrome screem. Color screens are
harder to read in bright sunlight.
Looking on e-bay you can find many other sources, some other close out houses
advertize on e-bay.
Looking at the latest models. The older version of the Black magic program and
the Red magic program will not run on the latest Tungsten and Zire models.
I have a Blackmagic version that will. This can be used for RedMagic timers. Ne
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RedMagic models will be coming out shortly and the corresponding Palm program
will work on later models. this program will aslo work with earlier RedMagic
timers.
Speaking of close out places, in California, the 99 cent stores have after
market palm cables - made by belkin for the Palm IIIxe and the M100/m105 -
these are different cables - for Only 99 cents [plus tax].
Speaking of the Palm IIIxe - this is the prefferred model if you are looking
for a simple monochrome Palm. Thses have a bigger screen than the
m100/m105v and appear to be more reliable.
FAT CAT
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I have a1987 FaT CAT for sale like new less than 30 hours $2200
Ed Keck
1 585 671 6086
Autumn Cup Results
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> Roger, please post on SEN
>
> Results from the 19th Annual Autumn Cup, Seguin Texas, November 8-9, 2003
>
> A moist chilly weekend as a cold front blew into Texas Thursday and
> continued thru the weekend. Wind speed was not a factor in our flying but
> the direction plus Military vehicles parked downwind caused us to fly
> shortened maxes on Saturday. Venturing to a distant and previously unused
> part of the field late Saturday allowed us to have flyoffs that evening
> and to fly unimpeded on Sunday.
>
> F1A (5 entered, 5 flew)
>
> 1. Mike Reeves 090..090..090..090..090..180....630
> 2. Steve Spence 090..090..090..090..090..136....586
> 3. Malcolm Andrews 090..090..090..067..090.............427
> 4. Mike Fedor 052..090..090..090..090.............412
> 5. Jessie Shepherd 034..090..090..090..078.............382
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> F1B (4 entered, 3 flew)
>
> 1. Jim Bradley 090..090..090..090..090..180..240....870
> 2. Dick Wood 090..090..090..090..090..180..000....630
> 3. Ed Wiley 090..090..090..090..090..163.............613
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> F1C (3 entered, 2 flew)
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> 1. Faust Parker 090..090..090..090..090....450
> 2. Don Chesson 090..000..000..000..000....090
>
> Open Gas (8 entered, 5 flew)
>
> 1. Faust Parker 090..090..090..090..090..180..281....911
> 2. Jackie Sheffer 090..090..090..090..090..180..198....828
> 3. Bob Hanford 090..090..090..090..090..164.............614
> 4. Henry Jackson
090..068................................................158
> 5. Mike Fedor 000..090................................................090
>
> P-30 (7 entered, 6 flew)
>
> 1. Eddie Vanlandingham 090..090..090..120....390
> 2. Craig Hollier 090..090..090..112....382
> 3. Arthur Milam 090..090..090..111....381
> 4. Robert P. Hanford 090..090..090............270
> 5. Mike Fedor 090..090..089............269
>
> F1G (7 entered, 4 flew)
>
> 1. Eddie Vanlandingham 120..120..120..120..120....600
> 2. Dick Wood 117..120..120..120..120....597
> 3. Ed Wiley 120..099..120..114..108....561
> 4. Robert P. Hanford 120..120..087..120..096....543
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> F1H (3 entered, 3 flew)
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> 1. Mike Fedor 117..120..120..120..077....554
> 2. Steve Spence 120..086..091..106..083....486
> 3. Mike Reeves 071..058..120..120..090....459
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> F1J (7 entered, 5 flew)
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> 1. Faust Parker 120..120..120..120..120..251....851
> 2. Henry Spence 120..120..120..120..120..246....846
> 3. John Schelp (Junior) 120..120..110..118..117.............585
> 4. Bob Hanford 104..120..120..120..073.............537
> 5. Fred Carstens 120..013.......................................133
>
> F1P (1 entered, 1 flew)
>
> 1. Mike Fedor 120..120..080....320
>
> NFFS One Design Starduster-X (5 entered, 3 flew)
>
> 1. Mike Fedor 120..120..120..120....480
> 2. Faust Parker 120..120..120..113....473
> 3. Bob Hanford 108..120.....................228
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Innovations please!
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Formally, the deadline to nominate a model for the Ten Models of the
Year is fast approaching (December 1). We still have a number of good
models from last year, as well as a new crop this year. But the door is
always open for an outstanding design. In particular, I am hoping to get
nominations for a beginner model, a CO2 model as well as models with
unusual technical features.
Unusual ideas will be considered. For example, last year a rubber motor
winder was candidates for a special award. Electronic timer and control
mechanisms are an intriguing proposition!
Nominations are informal, and you can self-nominate. A initial sub-
mission can be crude, serving as a starting point. The real work starts
once a design is selected, articulating the design's innovations in a
plan, pictures and text.
Aram
79-02 212 St.
Bayside, NY 11364
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The Ulms
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As you will have read in a previous SEN Patty and Al Ulm's house
was destroyed in the recent California wild fires. I saw Al recently on
flying field - he was easy to pick out as he was the guy with the new jeans
and jacket - all his clothes had gone so he did not have the 'old'
clothes we wear when we go flying. He said that they had
receieved many words of support and encouragement from
their friends in the modelling community and it was very much
appreciated.
I had given their e-mail addreess incorrectlty before - its is
Roger.
email address for the Ulms
"Allen&Pat Ulm". I had forgotten that they had changed
it and they still aren't getting email. Can you write up a new thing
for their email? Thanks.
Ciao, Connie
Italiano is selected to AMA Hall of Fame
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AmCup Contest
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Roger, for SEN
The following is a portion of my reply to Bob Perkin’s request for 2004 AmCup
Sanction for the Ohio-FF Annual. I think it might be of interest and use to ot
her CDs and clubs.
Thanks, JIM
Bob,
Thank you for your request. Here is process for adding AmCup contests and the i
ssues we discuss during this time.
Tom Coussens and I take the recommendations we get through the year and create
a draft calendar of the next year, ie we are the first selection level. We then
submit that draft to the SCAT club for discussion and then vote at the SCAT Ho
liday party-- this year it is Dec 13, 2003. The result is the official AmCup co
ntest list for the following year. Many of the dates are not yet firm but the A
mCup contests are established. We do not attempt to sort out conflicting contes
t dates, the CD / Clubs strive to this on their own to maximize attendance to t
heir contests.
First Issue: The AmCup has grown to 30 contests. By club vote, we have decided
to cap the number of sanctions to 30. Roughly speaking, this is a contest on av
erage every other week. We have a process to evaluate the low attendance conte
sts-- a three year running average. At this time, one contest is not applying f
or future sanction and so one potential spot has opened. The deleted AmCup is f
rom the N.W. (Harts Lake contest) and so the Sierra Eagles have requested to us
e it. One item many people lose sight of is the primary mission of the AmCup is
to promote FAI FF through the requirement to travel to other sites in order to
win this nationally recognized award. Ever increase number of AmCup contest wo
uld be contrary to this goal.
Second issue: Balance of E-C-W contest. This issue is most controversial-- shou
ld it be by E-C-W geography (and who decides the map?) or should it be by conce
ntration of the flyer population? The 2003 distribution is EE-7, C-10 and W-13.
My eyeball sees this distribution some where between the two. A look at the hi
story of AmCup winners (old AmCup scores are now on the NFFS web page) demonst
rates the current distribution is good and therefore the distribution of contes
t is good.
Third issue: Over the past 3 years, we have put pressure on the contests that h
eld only the open or mini events. This year (2003) all AmCup contests scheduled
both Open and Mini events. I believe the results for these contests have been
positive.
Thermals,
Jim Parker
SCAT president
Contest report wanted
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Looking at the results of the Bern Eurofly contest, I wonder( as perhaps
others do as well,) what the weather conditions were and also the contest
organisations in view of the unusually high max times. They certainly
reduced the number of flyoff contestants and must have provided some
memorable viewing of multiple models high up in the calm conditions.
It looks as if there might be a recipe here for the future of the other
World Cup contests - and even the W/C itself?
Regards
Mike S
F1A model in Muncie
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There is a found F1A model residing in the competition department at the
AMA in Muncie. The address label is ilegible. The AMA number is mostly
gone. it had been applied with red white and blue decals. If you think
this is yours, contact Steve Kaluf at the AMA. ( Address available on
the AMA website.
Lee Campbell
Muncie, IN USA
Thanks
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Thanks to Bob Norton and Bill Gannon for their donations in support
of SEN.
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Roger Morrell