SCAT Electronic News 23 December issue 658
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SCAT Electronic News 23 December issue 658
Table of Contents
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Gee Bee Y
Holiday on ice 2002, World Cup and small classes. - Nereng
F1D and indoor participation in the USA - Goldstein
Christmas - Brokenspar
Stongest Wing Contest Update - Gewain
W-hobby junior mode- l a review - Rozenkrantz
Re: Poitou website - Gregorie et al
F1C Astronomy - Schlosberg
Slo what ? - Squatter
Gee Bee Y
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When will the Gee Bee Y be available??
Thanks, Terry
{Some how I think Terry is asking this question at
the wrong place . But
if someone can help ....]
Holiday on ice 2002, World Cup and small classes.
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Holiday on Ice 2002, World Cup and small classes.
We have the pleasure to invite you to the World Cup Competition on
March 16.-17th 2002, in Gj=F8vik, Norway.
More info: http://www.home.online.no/~vnereng/
If the weather and retrieving conditions become good, my be
Small classes competition will be arranged March 17th.
Holiday On Ice96 Small Classes
Skedsmo Modellfly Klubb invites all to an "add-on"
competition in free flight Small Classes Sunday 17.03.02.
The classes to be flown :F1G, F1H and P30 (non FAI class)
a.. There will be arranged 3 rounds with start at 11:00 and "flyoff"
rounds with start at 14:30.
a.. If the main H.O.I contest is postphoned to Sunday it will have
precedence for the Small Class Contest.
a.. Entry Fee will be 100 NOK pr. small class in addition to the
main competition.
a.. There will be arranged separate junior classes at the
pricegiving.
P30 BASIC RULES FOR H.O.I. Small Classes
Max wing span and lenght of fuselage: 30"3D 762mm
Max weight of rubber motor: 10g
Min weight of airplane without rubber motor: 40g
Commercial 9,5" plastic propeller shall be used
No additional rules will be enforced.
Merry Christmas and happy New Year to all freeflighters.
Vegar Nereng.
F1D and indoor participation in the USA
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>> F1D
The Indoor international class rules have been changed recently to
produce an aeroplane which is stronger, simpler to build and with a
lower performance. Since these changes the participation in F1D in
European events has increased greatly. I do not know if there has been
an increase in interest in the US. Some of the American flyers were
unhappy about the way the rules were introduced which may have affected
take up but, if there has been an increase in F1D flying, there may be
something to learn for other classes.
John Barker - England <<
Yes there has been a big increase in USA participation since the new rules.
At the team trials this year there were 13 adults competing and 6 juniors.
>From what I am told that is the largest number of competitors ever. The new
rules have not only brought in new competitors it has gotten a number that
"retired" to become active again. We are also seeing an increase in the
number of subscribers to Indoor News and Views including juniors coming from
the Science Olympiad program. All in all indoor in the USA seems to be
experiencing a resurgence. While the changes F1D rules are definitely
helping that area just getting more people involved it probably an equal or
greater reason for the increased participation.
Tim
[Denver, CO]
http://www.IndoorDuration.com
W-hobby junior mode- l a review
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Before i say anything i would like to say that the following is based on my
expirience with the model.
The junior model by w-hobby may not be the best model in terms of gliding,
but it's most certainly the worst in terms of planning and materials.
The front is made of wood that makes the fuslage very heavy (the front alone
is about 90gr.) .
The front carbon shell is defected in it's rear end.
The towhook is not reliable-it sometimes opens with no apparent reason since
some parts in it might malfunction.
But the worst thing is the wingjoiner - the wingjoiner goes through 5
plywood longerons and into the wing there is a balsa skin above and under
the longerosn and that's it.
Because of that any minor crash might result a broken wing root.
So now think twice before you buy the junior model to the young kids that
want to fly F1A.
Not everything that w-hobby are writing about the model is true.
Leon Rozenkrants
Christmas
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Credible !
Angels
have
nothing to do
with
aerodynamics
Brokenspar
greeting
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Merry Christmas and
a happy New Year 2002
Damjan Zulic
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Subject : Valley Fever Web Site
Hi Roger,
We got a call from a reporter at the Bakersfield Californian last week.
She had heard that some modelers from foreign countries were at the
World Champs and got Valley Fever. I told her what I had learned from
SEN. She wrote an extensive article regarding that in last Saturday's
Californian. I guess the article she wrote impressed the newspaper
editor. Today's Californian had an editorial regarding Valley Fever.
The article had a website address which has a great deal of information.
The website address is: www.valleyfever.com
They have a mail address of: Valley Fever Vaccine Project of the
Americas, P.O. Box 2752, Bakersfield, CA 93303 Telephone#: (661)
832-1456.
Thought the above might be of help for modelers coming to the Central
Valley of California to fly in the future.
Wes Funk, Taft
Stongest Wing Contest Update
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Printed on System : aeromodel dot com for scat
The first round of the Strongest Light weight Wing Contest will be held on
January 20th at the AMA Convention and Model trade show in Pasadena CA.
Everyone interested in building strong lightweight models should enter.
Entry forms and contest details are available on line at www.cstsales.com
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These wings are small and should be easy to build and the contest will be
fun and educational.
Matt Gewain
Re: Poitou website
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I've just had a note from to Poitou aero club to confirm that the web
site for the Poitou International contest is now online and asking me
to spread the word, so here goes.
The Poitou contest web site is now
up and operating. The site is very much under construction but it is
there and quite fast.
Selecting 'Inscription' downloads a 1.2 MB MS Word document containing
the normal multi-page Poitou entry form for 2002, rather than allowing
online entry as I'd hoped. It covers F1A/B/C entries alone.
Looks like the mini-classes, which appear in the CIAM calendar as
usual, will have the entry form mailed out as usual.
Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year.
Martin
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F1C Astronomy
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The discussion about F1C costs has inflated prices over time to $8000
a model, expressed their value in units of a Japanese cars in Australia
(2 models per car) as well as bragging of how much was spent on trailers=
and axillary equipment.
The actual prices, at least according to people I canvassed, are much
closer to earth. Ready made components can run about three hundred
per fuselage - including an engine mount, pylon and fuselage boom.
Uncovered carbon wings range between 200-300 dollars. A folding prop
unit costs 80-100 dollars and a mechanical timer 50-80 dollars. A
conventional engine (Nelson) costs about 250 dollars. In fact, one can
build a competitive F1C model with a few components and lots of time
for as low as 500-600 dollars.
The innovative geared engines (Verbitsky or Keck/Galbreath) costs
about 850 dollars, so gearing comes with a 600 dollar price tag. A
geared engine is about 35 grams heavier than a conventional engine,
and in the case of Verbitsky/Babenko entails lowering the pylon,
probably due to the increase trust towards the end of the climb.
The availability of models from the east stems from a unique
combination of factors. First, economic hardship is wide spread
and workers typically earn under a hundred dollars a month. There
are also many well trained modelers who have come through the
national club system of the former USSR and the eastern block has
been in the forefront of most the technological developments over
the last 30 years.
Model production in the east has created a considerable amount
of specialization, were people produce only tail booms, D-box
(taco) shells or build just stabs or wings. Even if a person can produce
and sell 10 models a year, his net income is meager in western
standards. His expenses include materials and subcontractors, as
well as the need to travel to the west to deliver the models - to avoid
duties and breakage. Verbitsky sells a ready-to-fly geared model
at about 2200 dollars and other suppliers are a bit cheaper. The more
expensive ready-to-fly electronic Nordics are not far behind.
The unique characteristic of F1Cs is the crucial importance of the
engine's performance. In other words, technology dominates. The
geared engine, which took many years to develop and perfect, gives
a flier an advantage in placing (see Aringer's WC tabulation in SEN).
Most serious F1C fliers want a reasonable podium chance, which
today really requires a geared engine - at least for the flyoffs.
In contrast, technology has not proven as decisive for Nordics. Very
high aspect ratio wings combined with small stabs or models with
sophisticated electronics are not a prescription to winning. Finding
and staying in better air is usually more important.
It is also fair to say that geared engines are here to stay, given their
price and wide distribution.
Aram Schlosberg
[As an observation - I think that the Worldchamps demonstrated that
the gearded engines did not win everything - good flying was
important too. Also it appears that the Verbitsky engine in
considerably more mature than the Hummer. In particular the
props and I understand theat the timing is different from
the regular Verbitsky engine. This is probably one of the secrets
that no one discusses but that everyone who is 'in' knows.
BTW as an F1B sportman, I'm not 'in' so I'm just
guessing.]
Slo what ?
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RE: slogb - do you pronounce that Slogbee? Slobat was intuitive!
Squatter
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Roger Morrell
