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- Patterson 2017
- 2017 AmCup Update
- 2018 Am Cup Rule Discussion and Change
- Lost Hills Website updates
Patterson 2017
This past weekend kept up with tradition with great weather.
For F1A guys it was challenging with very little wind. Mike McKeever
was the only one maxing out for the win.
In F1B we had 3 in fly off with low winds.
Fly off 1 for 6 min, all maxed with good thermals.
Fly off 2 was just before sunset at about 4:30, but was good air and with
the orange ball sun setting each flyer easily made their 8 min flights.
Fly off 3 was Sunday morning at 7:15. Blake Jensen made 7:25 flight for the win.
F1C first fly off ended with Guy Menanno winning and Ed Carroll placing 2nd
Peter Sahlberg after 10 years of no flying came out to test waters with F1J. He plans to
come out to MaxMan.
Thanks to Linda for a great hot dog lunch and my wife Janna for the scoring and round announcements.
Brian Van Nest CD
PATTERSON November 11&12/2017 BRIAN VANNEST CD
F1A Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Rnd4 Rnd5 Rnd6 Rnd7 F01 total
1 Mike McKeever 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 1320
2 Ken Bauer 240 164 180 180 180 180 180 1304
3 Logan Tetrick 231 180 180 170 180 180 180 1301
4 Jim Parker 240 180 180 155 180 180 180 1295
5 Shlomi Rosenzweig 240 180 180 120 128 180 180 1208
6 Brian VanNest 175 180 180 180 180 180 88 1163
7 Peter Allnutt 149 180 180 100 180 180 100 1069
8 Don Zink 137 180 180 180 180 180 0 1037
9 Pierre Brun 134 180 180 161 18 0 0 673
F1B Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Rnd4 Rnd5 Rnd6 Rnd7 FO 1 FO2 FO3 total
1 Blake Jensen 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 480 445 2605
2 Troy Davis 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 480 351 2511
3 Walt Ghio 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 360 480 347 2507
4 Larry Norvall 240 150 180 180 180 180 180 1290
5 Tiffaney O'Dell 240 180 180 162 180 180 142 1264
6 Bill Gannon 240 180 180 175 112 180 180 1247
7 Michael Davis 164 180 126 180 165 180 180 1175
8 Mike Richardson 131 100 180 165 180 180 180 1116
F1C Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd4 Rnd 5 Rnd6 Rnd 7
1 Guy Menanno 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 279 1599
2 Ed Carroll 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 184 1504
F1P
1 Randy Secor 193 180 180 180 180 180 180 1273
F1Q Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 Rnd 6 Rnd 7
1 Tom Ioerger 240 180 180 180 98 180 51 1109
2 Mike Pykelyn 240 180 180 129 180 180 6 1095
F1H Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 FO 1 FO 2 FO 3
1 Mike McKeever 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 221 1241
2 Blake Jensen 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 206 1226
3 Gary Madelin 120 120 120 120 120 180 151 931
4 Jiim Parker 120 120 120 120 120 175 775
5 Brian VanNest 120 120 120 120 120 132 732
F1G Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 FO1 FO2 FO3
1 Tiffany Odell 120 120 120 120 120 132 732
2 Tom Ioeger 120 120 120 120 120 129 729
3 Mike Richardson 120 120 120 120 114 594
4 Walt Ghio 120 120 120 120 102 582
5 Kurt Van Nest 95 120 120 117 113 565
6 Mike Pykelyn 91 99 120 90 120 520
F1S Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 FO1 FO2
1 Matt Gewain 9 120 114 100 110 453
0
F1J
1 Peter Sahlberg 58 120 120 93 71 462
2017 AmCup Update
From: Jim Parker
Only the AZ Champs and King Orange contests are left in the 2017 AmCup season. I carried from last year the Eastern States FF champs but I have not seen the results. If this contest was help, please send me the results ASAP to the email below.
A couple of the events are locked up but most of the events could see changes to the top places as a result of the last two contests.
There were no changes to the Jr Team Selection Standing. Remember the Jr team selection program goes thru the Max Men contest in 2018.
Please send corrections to <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
America Cup results - with individual placings
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 12
Ike 16
NAC 14
MM 12
SCA 17
SAN 7
NCA 2
Srn -x-
BAl 6
Spe -x-
Hcu 3
HIC 5
CEN -x-
COM 1
I-C 3
SKA 5
HC 6
Can 6
FFF 0
NAT 14
NWF 6
NW 5
O&W 4
Dyn 1
Bro 1
USF 4
Har 4
TCC -x-
CFA 15
Ser 12
SWC 6
ESF 0
Sim -x-
Pat 8
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1A
1 Danier, Jama 111 Ike-1 NAC-1 SKA-2* HC-3* Can-1 O&W-1
1 McKeever, Mike 111 SWR-1 MM-5* SCA-4* SAN-2* NCA-1* BAl-3* NWF-4* NW -1 USF-2* CFA-1 SWC-2* Pat-1
3 Parker, Jim 95 SWR-4* MM-4* SCA-1 SAN-3* BAl-1 NWF-1 NW -2* USF-1* CFA-2* SWC-3 Pat-4*
4 VanNest, Brian 90 Ike-4* NWF-5* NW -3 CFA-3 Ser-1 SWC-1
5 Yori, Joel (jr) 80 HIC-5* SKA-1 NAT-1 Har-1
6 Bauer, Ken 77 SWR-5* NAC-4* SAN-5* NCA-2 NAT-3 USF-3 Pat-2
7 Limberger, Rene 75 SWR-2 Ike-2 SCA-5* SAN-1 Ser-2*
8 Rosenzweig, Shlomi 69 SCA-3* BAl-2 HC-2 Can-2 USF-4* Ser-5* SWC-5 Pat-5*
9 Pecenkovic, Enes 68 SWR-3 Ike-3* NAC-2 MM-2
10 Barron, Andrew 64 Ike-5* HIC-2 NAT-5 O&W-2 Ser-4
11 McQuade, Pete 50 COM-1 Dyn-1
11 Markos, Chuck 50 Hcu-1 I-C-1
13 Shitrit, Nir 49 NAC-3 MM-1
14 Tzvetkov, Tzvetan 45 HIC-1 SKA-3* O&W-4* Har-2
15 Lorbiecki, John E 40 Hcu-3 Bro-1
16 Brun, Pierre 37 BAl-5 NWF-3 NW -5 CFA-5
17 Tetrick, Logan 36 CFA-4* Ser-3 Pat-3
18 Sifleet, Bob 35 Hcu-2 NAT-4
19 Zink, Don 32 NAC-5 SCA-2
19 Nikolajeras, Vidas 32 HC-1 Can-5
21 Stalick, Roman (jr) 31 NWF-2 NW -4
22 Barron, Peter 30 HIC-4 SKA-5 O&W-3
23 Fedor, Cade (jr) 25 NAT-2
23 Fradkin. Igor 25 HIC-3 SKA-4
23 Fedor, Mike 25 TCC-1
26 Pecenkovic, Jasminka 19 MM-3
27 Lazarovich, Vlad 16 Can-3
28 Ulm, Gene 15 Har-3
29 Farmer, Jim 11 SAN-4
29 Pukakka, Risto 11 BAl-4
29 Farkas, Leslie 11 Can-4
29 Lenartowicz, Chris 11 HC-4
29 Secor, Randy 11 SWC-4
34 Ulm, Adelaide (jr) 10 Har-4
35 Allnutt, Peter 6 HC-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 9
Ike 18
NAC 16
MM 12
SCA 8
SAN 7
NCA 2
Srn 1
BAl 5
Spe 1
Hcu 4
HIC 7
CEN 3
COM 3
I-C 6
SKA 5
HC 6
Can 6
FFF 0
NAT 18
NWF 3
NW 2
O&W 3
Dyn 2
Bro 7
USF 5
Har 4
TCC -x-
CFA 13
Ser 16
SWC 6
ESF 0
Sim -x-
Pat 8
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1B
1 Andriukov, Alex 111 Ike-1 MM-1 HIC-1 HC-1 Can-1* CFA-1*
2 Jensen, Blake 102 SWR-3* Ike-3* MM-2* CEN-2* COM-1 NWF-1 Ser-3 SWC-3* Pat-1
3 Jones, Charles 101 SWR-5* NAC-1 MM-3* SAN-4* I-C-1 Can-4* CFA-2 Ser-4* SWC-1
4 Ghio, Walt 98 SWR-1 Ike-2 NAC-3* SAN-1 NCA-2 BAl-2* USF-1* CFA-5* Ser-2* Pat-3*
5 Pivonka, Jace 87 SWR-2 CEN-1 COM-2 Dyn-2
6 Richardson, Mike 70 NAC-5* SCA-5* SAN-5* BAl-3 CEN-3* COM-3 NWF-2 NW -2 CFA-6* SWC-4*
7 Davis, Mike 67 SCA-3 SAN-3* NCA-1 BAl-1 CFA-4*
8 Vaccaro, Tom 65 Ike-4 NAT-1 O&W-2
9 Simon, Greg 57 Hcu-1 I-C-1 HC-4 NAT-3*
10 Booth, Bill 56 NAC-4 USF-2 SWC-2
11 Horak, Ladi 55 NAC-2 MM-5 HC-5* Can-2
12 Mathews, Tony 51 MM-4 HC-2 Can-3
12 Simon, Evan 51 Hcu-2 I-C-5 NAT-2
14 Fedor, Mike 50 Srn-1 Spe-1
14 Radziunas, Sarah 50 HIC-2* SKA-1 Har-1
16 Schroedter,Martin 48 SCA-1 SAN-2
17 Schlosberg, Aram 45 HIC-3* SKA-5* O&W-1 Har-2
18 Allen, Carrol 40 Ike-5 HIC-5* SKA-2 O&W-3 Har-3*
18 Morrell, Roger 40 BAl-4 USF-5* Ser-1
18 Yori, Joel (jr) 40 SKA-3 NAT-4 Har-4
21 Felix, Ron 33 HIC-4 HC-3 Can-5
22 Gannon, Bill 32 SCA-2 BAl-5* USF-4
22 O'Dell, Tiffaney 32 NW -1 Pat-5
24 McGluckin, Derek 30 NWF-3 Ser-5
25 Norvall, Larry 27 USF-3 Pat-4
26 MacCleery, Rich 26 Bro-1
27 Pacelli, Brian 25 Dyn-1
28 Davis, Troy 22 Pat-2
29 Malkhasyan, Sevak 19 CFA-3
30 Shailor, Paul 16 I-C-3
31 Gerspacher, Kyle (jr) 15 Hcu-3
32 Piserchio, Bob 12 SCA-4
32 Emery, Jack 12 SWR-4
34 Jones, Ryan 11 I-C-4
35 Jahnke, Ross 10 NAT-5
35 Joyner, Lois 10 SKA-4
35 Crowley, Paul 10 Hcu-4
38 Clapp, John 6 SWC-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 1
Ike 4
NAC 5
MM 2
SCA 1
SAN 2
NCA -x-
Srn 1
BAl 4
Spe -x-
Hcu -x-
HIC -x-
CEN -x-
COM -x-
I-C -x-
SKA -x-
HC -x-
Can 1
FFF 0
NAT 3
NWF 1
NW -x-
O&W -x-
Dyn 1
Bro -x-
USF -x-
Har -x-
TCC 1
CFA 6
Ser 5
SWC 1
ESF 0
Sim 1
Pat 1
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1C
1 Parker, Faust 100 SWR-1 Ike-2* NAC-1 Srn-1 TCC-1 Sim-1*
2 Carroll, Ed 76 SCA-1 SAN-1* BAl-1* CFA-1 SWC-1 Pat-2*
3 Roberts, Mike 70 Ike-1 NAC-4* NWF-1 CFA-3* Ser-2
3 Chesson, Don 70 NAC-2 BAl-4* NAT-1 CFA-4* Ser-1
5 Menanno, Guy 50 NAC-3* MM-1 CFA-2* Ser-5* Pat-1
6 Malkhasyan, Taron 40 Ike-4* MM-2 SAN-2 Ser-3*
7 Mc Burnett, Ron 30 BAl-2 CFA-5* Ser-4
8 Shvedenkov, Yury 25 Can-1
8 Etherington, Chuck 25 Dyn-1
10 Mathis, Dick 20 NAC-5 BAl-3
10 Loriecki, John E 20 NAT-2
12 Morris, Gil 15 Ike-3
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 1
Ike 1
NAC -x-
MM -x-
SCA 1
SAN 2
NCA -x-
Srn 1
BAl 1
Spe 1
Hcu 1
HIC -x-
CEN -x-
TUI -x-
I-C -x-
SKA -x-
HC -x-
Can -x-
FFF 0
NAT 3
NWF -x-
NW -x-
O&W -x-
Dyn 1
Bro -x-
USF -x-
Har -x-
TCC -x-
CFA -x-
Ser -x-
SWC 1
ESF 0
Sim 1
Pat 1
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1P
1 Fedor, Mike 100 SWR-1 Srn-1 Spe-1 Sim-1
2 Secor. Randy 75 SAN-1 BAl-1 SWC-1 Pat-1*
3 Hayden Ashworth (jr) 65 Hcu-1 NAT-3 Dyn-1
4 Kerger, Terry 50 Ike-1 SCA-1 SAN-2*
5 Fedor, Cade (jr) 25 NAT-1
6 Hanford, Bob 20 NAT-2
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 8
Ike 8
NAC -x-
MM 3
SCA 5
SAN 2
NCA 1
Srn -x-
BAl 0
Spe -x-
Hcu 3
HIC 3
CEN 3
COM 3
I-C 1
SKA -x-
HC 1
Can -x-
FFF 0
NAT 9
NWF 3
NW 3
O&W 3
Dyn 2
Bro 1
USF -x-
Har -x-
TCC -x-
CFA 2
Ser 2
SWC 7
ESF 0
Sim -x-
Pat 5
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1G
1 O'Dell, Tiffaney 103 SWR-5* Ike-1 MM-1* SCA-2* CEN-1* COM-1 NWF-1 NW -3* SWC-1 Pat-1*
2 Richardson, Mike 99 SWR-1 MM-3* SCA-4* SAN-1 BAl-1 CEN-2* COM-2* NAT-2 NWF-2* NW -2* Pat-3*
3 Brocks, Peter 83 SWR-4 Ike-3* MM-2* CFA-1 Ser-1 SWC-2
4 Clapp, John 75 HIC-1 SKA-1 HC-1 SWC-5*
5 Jones, Geralyn 68 Ike-5 SCA-1 Hcu-1 SWC-4
6 Davis, Mike 65 SAN-2 NCA-1 BAl-2
7 Ioerger, Tom 62 SCA-3 NAT-1 Pat-2
8 DeLoach, Don 52 SWR-2 CEN-3 COM-3
9 Buss, Bill 45 O&W-2 Har-1
10 Markos, Chuck 42 Hcu-3* I-C-1 NAT-3
11 Rousseau, Don 40 HIC-2 SKA-2 O&W-3*
11 Ewing. Rick 40 NWF-3 NW -1
11 Allen, Carrol 40 HIC-3 O&W-1
11 VanNest, Kurt 40 CFA-2 Ser-2 Pat-5*
15 Pykelny, Mike 32 SWR-3 BAl-3
16 Murphy, Jerry 25 Dyn-1
16 Jones, Ryan 25 Bro-1
18 Jensen, Blake 22 Ike-2
19 Simon, Greg 20 Hcu-2
19 Jones, Darold 20 Dyn-2
19 Acton, Dave 20 Har-2
22 Petersen, Alan 16 SWC-3
23 Mathews, Tony 12 Ike-4
23 Jones, Darlod 12 NAT-4
25 Ghio, Walt 10 Pat-4
26 Fedor, Cade (jr) 7 NAT-5
27 Jones, Charlie 5 SCA-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 5
Ike 6
NAC -x-
MM 2
SCA 4
SAN 4
NCA 2
Srn -x-
BAl 1
Spe -x-
Hcu 1
HIC 1
CEN 1
COM -x-
I-C 1
SKA -x-
HC -x-
Can -x-
FFF 0
NAT 7
NWF -x-
NW 4
O&W 1
Dyn 2
Bro -x-
USF 1
Har 1
TCC -x-
CFA 3
Ser 4
SWC 4
ESF 0
Sim -x-
Pat 0
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1H
1 Parker, Jim 100 SWR-1 Ike-2* MM-1 SCA-4* SAN-1 BAl-1* NWF-1 NW -3* SWC-4* Pat-3*
1 Sifleet, Bob 100 Ike-5* Hcu-1 HIC-1 I-C-1 NAT-4* Har-1 Ser-2*
3 Bauer, Ken 96 SWR-2 Ike-3* NCA-1 NAT-1 Dyn-1
4 McKeever, Mike 92 Ike-1 SCA-2* SAN-2* NCA-2* NAT-2 NWF-3* NW -2 USF-1* CFA-3* Ser-1 SWC-2* Pat-1*
5 VanNest, Brian 85 Ike-4* SCA-1 SAN-4* NWF-2 NW -1 CFA-2* Ser-3* SWC-3 Pat-4*
5 Jensen, Blake 85 SWR-3 MM-2 SCA-3* CFA-1 Ser-4* SWC-1 Pat-2*
7 Powell, Chuck 45 CEN-1 Dyn-2
8 Wegener, Rich 25 O&W-1
9 Hack, James 16 NAT-3
10 Farmer, Jim 15 SAN-3
11 Fedor, Cade (jr) 6 NAT-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 2
Ike 2
NAC -x-
MM -x-
SCA -x-
SAN -x-
NCA -x-
Srn 3
BAl -x-
Spe 1
Hcu 2
HIC -x-
CEN 1
COM 0
I-C -x-
SKA -x-
HC -x-
Can -x-
FFF 0
NAT 4
NWF -x-
NW -x-
O&W -x-
Dyn 2
Bro -x-
USF -x-
Har 1
TCC 2
CFA 1
Ser 1
SWC -x-
ESF 0
Sim 2
Pat 1
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1J
1 Parker, Faust 100 SWR-1 Ike-1 Srn-2* Spe-1 TCC-1* Sim-1
2 Fedor, Mike 90 SWR-2 Srn-1 NAT-1 TCC-2
3 Ashworth, Hayden (jr) 55 Hcu-2 NAT-4 Dyn-1
4 Roberts, Mike 50 Ike-2* CFA-1 Ser-1
5 Lorbiecki, John E 45 Hcu-1 NAT-2
6 King, Troy 25 CEN-1
6 Abriss, Alan 25 Har-1
6 Salburg, Peter 25 Pat-1
9 Hanford, Bob 20 Dyn-2
9 Jim Parker 20 Sim-2
11 Fedor, Cade (jr) 15 NAT-3
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 4
Ike 4
NAC 2
MM 1
SCA 2
SAN -x-
NCA 2
Srn -x-
BAl 2
Spe 1
Hcu 1
HIC 5
CEN 4
COM 3
I-C 1
SKA 4
HC -x-
Can 0
FFF 0
NAT 11
NWF -x-
NW -x-
O&W 3
Dyn 3
Bro 1
USF -x-
Har 4
TCC 1
CFA 3
Ser 3
SWC 5
ESF 0
Sim 1
Pat 2
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1Q
1 Murphy, Jack 100 SWR-1 Ike-1 NAC-2* MM-1 CEN-2* COM-1 NAT-4* Dyn-2* CFA-3* Ser-2* SWC-2*
1 Sifleet, Bob 100 Ike-2* Hcu-1 HIC-2* CEN-1 COM-2* I-C-1 SKA-1 NAT-2* Har-2* CFA-2* Ser-1*
3 Ioerger, Tom 93 Ike-3* NAC-1* SCA-1 CEN-3* COM-3* NAT-3 CFA-1 Ser-3* SWC-1 Pat-1*
4 Hooke, Drake 85 HIC-1 SKA-2* NAT-5* O&W-1 Bro-1 Har-3* SWC-4
6 Pykelny, Mike 65 SWR-2 SCA-2 BAl-1 Pat-2*
4 Parker, Julie 85 SWR-4 Spe-1 TCC-1 Sim-1
7 Ivers, Dick J 60 HIC-3* SKA-3* O&W-2 Har-1 SWC-3
8 Tarcher, Ben 45 NCA-1 BAl-2
8 Mecham, Allan 45 SWR-3 CEN-4 Dyn-3 SWC-5
10 Yori, Joel (jr) 28 NAT-1
11 Schlosberg, Aram 25 HIC-4 O&W-3 Har-4*
11 Murphy, Jerry 25 Dyn-1
13 Hines, Lee 10 Ike-4
13 Avia, Yuda 10 SKA-4
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR -x-
Ike 6
Cal -x-
MM 6
SCA -x-
SAN -x-
NCA -x-
Srn -x-
BAl -x-
Spe -x-
Hcu -x-
HIC -x-
CEN 4
COM -x-
I-C -x-
SKA -x-
HC -x-
Can -x-
FFF 0
NAT -x-
NWF -x-
NW -x-
O&W -x-
Dyn -x-
Bro -x-
USF 0
Har -x-
TCC -x-
CFA 6
Ser 4
SWC -x-
ESF 0
Sim -x-
Pat -x-
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1E
1 Sifleet, Bob 71 Ike-2 MM-2* CEN-1 CFA-4* Ser-1
2 Richardson, Mike 62 Ike-5* MM-1 CEN-2 CFA-3
3 Brocks, Peter 52 Ike-1 MM-4* CFA-1 Ser-3*
4 Ioerger, Tom 37 Ike-4* MM-3 CFA-2 Ser-4*
5 Parsons, David 31 Ike-3 CEN-3
6 Terzian, Fred 26 MM-5 CFA-5* Ser-2
7 Pangell, Rick 10 CEN-4
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 7
Ike 5
NAC -x-
MM -x-
SCA 3
SAN 2
NCA 1
Srn 1
BAl 2
Spe 1
Hcu -x-
HIC -x-
CEN 4
COM 1
I-C -x-
SKA 1
HC -x-
Can -x-
FFF 0
NAT 8
NWF 2
NW 2
O&W 2
Dyn 4
Bro 1
USF 5
Har 2
TCC 1
CFA 4
Ser 4
SWC 5
ESF 0
Sim 1
Pat 1
AZC 0
KOI 0
F1S
1 DeLoach, Don 97 SWR-5* CEN-1 COM-1 NAT-2 Dyn-1* USF-1
2 Parker, Julie 95 SWR-4* Ike-2 Srn-1 Spe-1 TCC-1* Sim-1
3 Hooke, Drake 90 NAT-4* O&W-1 Bro-1 Har-2 SWC-2
4 Hines, Lee 87 Ike-4* SCA-3* SAN-2* NAT-1 NWF-2 NW -2 USF-3* CFA-2 Ser-4* SWC-5*
5 Murphy, Jack 86 SWR-1 Ike-1 CEN-4* Dyn-2 CFA-3* Ser-2* SWC-3
6 McGuckin, Derek 75 Ike-3* NWF-1 NW -1 CFA-1 Ser-1*
7 Ivers, Dick J 70 O&W-2 Har-1 SWC-1
8 Tarcher, Ben 55 NCA-1 BAl-1 USF-5
9 Buddenbohm, Stan 50 SCA-1 SAN-1
9 Brooks, Clint 50 SCA-2 USF-2 SWC-4
11 Mecham, Allan 46 SWR-3 CEN-3 Dyn-3
12 Gewain, Matt 45 BAl-2 USF-4* Pat-1
13 King, Troy 30 CEN-2 Dyn-4
14 Terzian,Fred 25 Ike-5* CFA-4 Ser-3
15 Morris, George 21 SWR-2
16 Tomasch, Andrew 17 NAT-3
17 Richardson, M. D. 7 NAT-5
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2018 Am Cup Rule Discussion and Change
From: Jim Parker
SCAT officers and CD’s have discussed and made decisions on requests to amend the AmCup rules to allow exemptions to the 2018 and later FAI rules. Last year we had an internal request to allow modified F1C engine rules relative to the model type (fixed, folder, geared etc). This year we got an external requests to allow an exemption to the Energy Limiter in F1Q.
The short answer in “No”. We understand that some F1C and F1Q flyers in the USA are not happy with these FAI rule changes and have stopped or will stop flying FAI events under the new rules.
We considered a two tier system, 1) allow an exceptions for USA World Cup events and 2) allow an exception for non-World Cup events.
For #1 the consensus was a quick and clear “No”. At our World Cup contests, flying in an FAI event is about flying with people from other countries and to do so on a fair flying field. We must fly by the same rules at FAI sanctioned contests.
For #2 we had much more discussion. As much as SCAT desires to encourage all forms of FAI FF, the final consensus was the events should be run to the core FAI model specification. This is mainly based on the club’s current and historic FAI competition focus. While participation is important, we believe flying to the core model specifics is more important. We also talked of the slippery slope argument. Rhetorically: "Why not allow A gas to fly in F1C or Mulvihill in F1B etc.? ".
We also reviewed the FAI rule, “C.13.2 Local rules in exceptional circumstances”. The key conclusion in our discussion is the exemption must impact all competitors equally and be driven by an exceptional circumstance. We do not see the F1C modified engine run or F1Q energy limiter exception request impacting all competitors equally nor to be unusual circumstances. We compared these exemption requests to the well-known used exemption of allowing the heating of motors in F1B, all competitors can take advantage of the exception and the unusual circumstance being contests in freezing cold. Another is the change of max time due to weather conditions.
As a result of these discussions, the following will be added to the 2018 AmCup rules.
e) Local rules in exceptional circumstances
i.) Must not change the model specification (F1C modified engine run for different model types or F1Q energy limiter exemption does not meet this rule)
ii.) Should be published in bulletins (SEN, NFFs etc.) preferably in advance of entry
iii.) If after entry, must notify all competitors prior to the start of the affected round
Flights flown to local rules that do not meet the above rules will not be scored.
Thermals, JIM
Lost Hills Website updates
From:John Riese
Hi All,
I just updated the LHFFMAA.com website to show the membership lists for 2018. Please check to see that you have renewed for next year. Also, please send me any contest announcements and flyers for events in 2018 at Lost Hills so I can include them in the calendar.
Thanks,
John Riese, LHFFMAA.com Webmaster
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