SEN 1260 2008
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- SW FAI Challenge
- Different Ideas from Don
- Looking for a Mini-Seelig
- Guy Mennano's Mother
- the Leeper in the leap Year
- George Xenakix and Frank Parmenter
- Jim's Finals Reveiew
- Team Selection Discussion on the NFFS Forum
Saturday was a great day for our younger generation as 2008 Junior Team contender Miles Johnson outlasted veterans Henning Nyhegn and Jim Parker for the only clean score in F1A while World Champion Cody Secor ran up a new Senior F1P National Record on his way to winning F1P over Tony Robertson. Rich Rohrke shiny blue model took home the blue glassware when yours truly’s VIT line hung up in the F1B flyoff. Unfortunately, we were again without any F1C flyers. With a full plate of Americas Cup points on the table, this has always left us scratching our heads
A unique feature of the Southwest FAI Challenge is our Sunday morning everybody-in “Espresso Flyoff”. This is a glide-to-the-ground round flown in a separate 10 minute window for each event. This is not Round 1 and has separate awards for the winners. It does however, provide us with a tie-breaker should mid-day flyoff rounds not determine a winner and more important it gives every contestant a chance to fly in a real flyoff situation with every other contestant. In the three years we have used this system, we have yet to need it to resolve any of the mini events. This year’s winners were John Clapp in F1G, Jim Parker in F1H, Tony Robertson in F1J and Bernie Crowe in F1Q.
When the mornings are like they have been on Sunday the last few years, we always wonder if we will have perfect scores across the board in the mini events. We almost did again this year. Of the 10 contestants and 50 flights recorded, we only had 4 dropped flights in five rounds. All three F1H flyers made the flyoffs that saw Norm Smith top Jim Parker and Lee Hines in the 4-minute round. Peter Brocks put up a clean 4-minute round to come out on top in F1G over Mark Belfield and Jack Emery. Tony Robertson once again took home first in F1J with a perfect 5-round score.
We were very happy to see Bernie Crowe and his fans come out and put on a great show in F1Q. He and Dick Wood see-sawed back and forth throughout the day with Bernie finally coming out on top. The fans were actually Bernie’s family who had gathered in Las Vegas to celebrate his 70th birthday which by appearances, seemed to be going very well! Happy birthday Bernie and many more!
It is always nice to see some of the local flyers come join us as well. Jon Zeisloft, one of the original organizers of this meet is always out to take his shot at F1G gold. Robert Hodes and Gerald Antonucci brought along another local flyer Bill Holt and the three of them ran up some pretty good P-30 scores. It was Robert’s turn for first place this year with a clean score through four flights.
We owe a tremendous thank you to Jill Rowland-Lagan, the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce CEO. Had she not stepped in and made the application for the lake bed use permit in the name of the Chamber of Commerce, this meet would not have happened. For those of you who joined us this year, please take a minute to look through the goody bag Jill and her staff prepared for us and next year, patronize those local businesses who helped make the 2008 Southwest FAI Challenge possible.
Miles Johnson 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 1290
Henning Nyhgen 210 180 171 180 180 180 180 1281
Jim Parker 210 180 180 180 180 126 180 1236
Peter Brocks 210 180 180 180 180 126 111 1167
Randy Secor 210 180 180 147 180 107 123 1127
Lee Hines 210 180 180 172 094 110 180 1126
Don Zink 210 169 180 180 180 094 113 1126
Norm Smith 210 171 150 139 180 084 180 1114
Rich Rohrke 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 189 1509
Bill Booth 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 037 1357
Jack Emery 240 180 180 180 180 180 176 1316
Richard Wood 240 180 180 171 180 180 180 1311
George Batiuk 240 180 180 180 169 180 180 1309
Jon Clapp 240 063 021 172 058 117 180 0851
Cody Secor 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 240+300+360 2160*
Tony Robertson 180 000 000 000 000 000 000 0180
* New National Record: Senior F1P !!!!!!!! Congratulations Cody!!!!
Peter Brocks 120 120 120 120 120 180+240 1020
Mark Belfield 120 120 120 120 120 180+149 0929
Jack Emery 120 120 120 120 120 140 0740
George Batiuk 120 120 120 116 112 0588
John Clapp 120 120 120 090 120 0570
Jon Zeisloft 120 120 120 120 080 0560
Norm Smith 120 120 120 120 120 180+240 1020
Jim Parker 120 120 120 120 120 180+225 1005
Lee Hines 120 120 120 120 120 180+132 0912
Tony Robertson 120 120 120 120 120 0600
Bernie Crowe & nbsp; 120 120 054 120 120 0534
Richard Wood 090 120 065 099 120 0494
Robert Hodes 120 120 120 150 510
Gerald Antonucci 120 120 120 143 503
Bill Holt 112 101 112 325
F1J Tony Robertson 276
F1Q Bernie Crowe 332
Different Ideas from Don
Whatever format we adopt for the finals, I believe the flapping and cycle riding under the models be eliminated. I’m not on the team because of cycle maxes achieved by my competitor’s friends.
This is free-flight and once a model is launched, there should be no other outside interference with that flight other than the air we launched in.
Furthermore, RCDTs should not be an option in the first 20 seconds of flight unless a crash in eminent.
- 3 days of flying – 7 rounds per day
- All events held simultaneously
- 2 flyers per pole
- Each flyer times and flies
- With the change of round, the fliers rotate in opposite directions, one goes up one pole, the other goes down one pole. Everyone times a different person each round.
- Many rounds equal the finest most consistent fliers should make the team
- Everyone times a different person each round
- Program is not complicated to administrate
- With many rounds an early drop means you should keep flying
- With each event being flown at the same time, the glider fliers will not have to run through the flight lines and all the equipment of the F1B & F1C fliers
Looking for a Mini Seelig
Looking for a Selig mini-combo timer. Does anyone out there have one you would part with?
Guy Menanno's Mother
Mr. Thorkildsen emailed me with some bad news. Guy Menanno's mother
passed away from injuries due to an incident when she was struck by a
motorist while walking. I do not know the details, but the funeral
services information is below if any SCAT or FAI types are interested.
> Date: Monday, , 2008, 11:51 AM
> HI Guys, Talked to Guy Menanno this morning and got the
> information about his mom's funeral.
> Friday Nov. 7 at ST JOHN BAPTIST DE LA SALLE
> Rosary at 4:30pm
> Mass at 5:00pm with reception to follow.
> The church is on the corner of Havenhurst and Chatsworth
> Ave, just a couple of blocks from the Menanno house on
the Leeper in Leap Year
Has anyone noticed that Lee Hines AKA Leeper,made the team in a leap year ?
A guy who keeps track of such stuff.
Georges Xenakis and Franck Parmenter
Jim's Finals review
Team Selection discussion on the NFFS Forum
I open the door, see SEN #1258, Nov 3 2008.
I've opened a post on the NFFS forum <http://www.freeflight.org/flyoff/index.php> under: FAI Models and Flying.
The purpose of this post is to discuss the various ideas, currently from Parker, Schlosberg , Markosand Potti. Then to drive to a consenous and send a proposal to the TSC. The forum has the ability to take Polls which will aid our closure.
I encourage those that wish to particpate to send their thoughts and ideas to both SEN and the NFFS Forum post.