SEN 1268 -27 Nov 2008

Table of Contents - SEN 1268

  1. Am Cup 2008
  2. Chuck's cash
  3. Death of f1J
  4. Looking for Sympos Articles
  5. Wakefield centenary
  6. Non-European Champs
  7. Eur-> World
  8. Faust's Extreme Comments


AmCup 2008, Two To Go
 
Thanks to Peter Brocks and Blake Jensen as well as others that provided corrections. These results should be accurate but if you spot an error, email me.
 
In F1A, Rene Limberger lost a point due to my Tangent bonus points error but he still maintains the lead. Another error caught hurt Steve Spence. This year by moving the Texas Cloud Climber contest to Seguin, only 2 of his three wins count at Seguin per the rules. Brian VanNest in second place has a shot beating Rene, he needs a win  in Eloy or Palm Bay and have 9 flyers to get 2 bonus points for the win.  Rene would win if Brian ties him, Rene’s 5th best score of 26 trumps Brian’s 23. Don’t forget Andrew Barron, he needs to gain 3 points  for the win and he is improving a 22 point score so Andrew needs a win with 12 flyers.  Like Brian, Rene would win if Andrew ties him. Will Andrew put on another flying clinic to get beat by his own model again?  Dave Edmonson made it into the top ten this year doing well in the Fall. I’m heading to Eloy to try to snatch fourth or fifth from Mike McKeever or Line Hines.
 
In F1B Paul Crowley is holding on to the lead but I think is in another fight with Blake Jensen who has been known to put on an end of the year charge. Blake can improve  his 21 point score with a simple win  not needing bonus points to take the lead. George Batiuk and Ed Vanlandingham are mathematically in but would need to win both remaining contests with a few bonus points.
 
Roger Simpson took the lead from Don Chesson but Don could regain the lead with a simple, no bonus point win. How far is the Swamp from Palm Bay?  Roger has been known to show at Eloy. This will be interesting.  Faust Parker is in the mathematical world. Mike Roberts could  win the AmCup some day if he discovered there are fields other than Tangent and Lost Hills. Dark horses are Norm Poti and Ron McBurnett tied for fifth. Both of them have only 3 scores counted so a win with four bonus points, which is not likely in F1C land, or two wins with a couple bonus points each could take the lead.
 
In 2007, Bob Handford beat out the Jr World Champion, Cody Secor.  This year Bob is in the lead, Dave Roundsaville in second and Cody in third.  Dave and Cody’s dad, Randy co-developed the Excelisor F1P that Cody flew to his third Jr WC. The F1P event is steadily growing beyond the Junior ranks but still only two contests  so far in F1P  have even a single bonus point. Cody won one of these and so with only 3 contests counted, he can win  the Am Cup back with a no-bonus point contest win.
 
I’ve learned that Tiffany O’Dell does not like the “Big Pink” label I used for her F1G. About just “Big” or just “Pink”. What ever you call her coup, she is still in the lead. Peter Brock has a shot at his up coming, home field Eloy contest if he can win and there and have six flyers. Seeing Blake’s situation in F1B, I image Tiffany and he already have airline reservations. Charlie Jones has a shot but rumor has it he will not be going to AZ or FL—time for him to focus on Croatia. Ed Vandlandingham has a shot too, he just needs a 24 point contest win— a 25 point win or a second with 4 bonus points. Brian VanNest is in mathematical land to win.
 
Well, well, Mike McKeever is in the F1H lead with Brian VanNest chasing him this year. Last year the roles were reversed and Brian held on to the lead to win the AmCup. Brian needs 26 points to tie for the win. Bob Sifleet is in a similar situation but needs a 29 point win which is unlikely. Consistent Jean Pailet is in fourth and I’m in fifth.  My flying buddies Hines and Thompson can knock me out of certificate position with a win.
 
In F1J Faust Parker is leading Jean Pailet and the previously mentioned F1P flyers, Dave Roundsaville and Bob Hanford with the 2009 USA F1C  team member, Gil Morris in fifth. Jean and Dave are tied and in the same boat needing a 28 point win. Similar to F1P, there have been only 3 bonus point contest so far this year so Faust’s lead is looking secure.
 
Bernie Crowe has figured out the AmCup scoring system and has flown himself to first place. Dick Wood is in second but 10 points behind and so would have to win the last two contests. Frank Pollard has won 5 contests this year but at only 2 sites so he only gets point for 3 contests. AZ or FL would be new a site and he would only need to place third to tie for the win. Dan Berry has won 3 contests as well but would need to place second or better because he would not win the tie breaker. Julie Parker is in fifth place with only three scores and so could move up but it would be unlikely to win.
 
Peter Brocks has had the F1E AmCup locked up for some time.  This event has plateaued with only 6 contests a year--- was this my inspiration for the Am-XCup?

SCAT is is putting the final touches on a not so extreme Am-XCup. Watch  for it in a SEN coming to you soon.
 
Thermals,  JIM  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

America Cup results - with individual placings

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR  17  Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike  21  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
MM   29  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA  16  SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT   6  Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   3  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF   2  Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl  14  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   2  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA   3  Intercity FAI  Muncie, IN
SkC  11  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   0  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   4  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM   7  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   7  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC   12  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO  15  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF  11  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW   11  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   0  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   3  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    4  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    7  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA  18  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu  19  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   7  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   5  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC   15  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   0  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1A
1   Limberger, Rene      115  SWR-1 Ike-5* SCA-1 MMM-1* NW -1 Scu-1
2   VanNest, Brian       114  Ike-1 MM-5* BAl-1 SkC-1 MMM-2* HC-2* USO-1 NWF-4* Scu-4*
3   Barron,  Andrew      103  MM-1 EFF-1 BAl-3* SkC-2 SkA-1 HC-3* CFA-5*
4   McKeever, Mike        98  SWR-2 Ike-4* MM-4* NCA-1 BAl-5* USO-5* NWF-1 NW -2 CFA-4*
5   Hines, Lee            89  SCA-2 NCA-2* TCC-2 MMM-3* NW -3* DC-1 CFA-3 SWC-5*
6   Parker, Jim           80  BAl-2 NWF-5* NW -5 Scu-3* SWC-2 PC-1
7   Spence, Steve         75  SCT-1 TCC-1 USO-2 ACT-1*
8   Edmonson, Dave        70  DC-2 CFA-2 Scu-2
9   Tzvetkov,Tzvetan      69  EFF-2 SkA-2 HC-1
10  Sifleet, Bob          64  IFA-1 USO-3 AFA-2
11  Brocks,  Peter        59  SWR-3 SCA-4 DC-4 SWC-3
12  Thompson, Mike        55  Ike-3 SCA-3* MMM-4 PC-2
13  Lenartowicz, C        51  CC-2 CFA-1
14  Markos, Chuck         47  Hcu-2 IFA-2 SkC-5 AFA-3*
15  Cai, Oliver (Jr)      45  MM-3 AFA-1
16  Bauer, Ken            42  Ike-2 NWF-3
17  Lorbiecki, John       40  Hcu-1 IFA-3
18  Zink, Don             34  BAl-4 NW -4 PC-4
19  Johnson, Miles(jr)    32  SkA-5 SWC-1
20  Fedor, Mike           31  SCT-4 ACT-2
21  Shepard, Jessie       30  TCC-3 ACT-3
22  Tetrick, Logan (jr)   28  SWR-4 USO-4
23  Allnutt, Peter        26  CC-1
23  Berry, Dan            26  SCT-2 ACT-5
25  Bauer, Brian          25  MM-2
25  McQuade, Pete         25  DC-3 Scu-5
27  Boiadjien, Todor      24  HC-4 CC-4
28  Brun, Pierre          22  NWF-2
29  Barron, Peter         17  SkC-3
30  Barron,Timothy(jr)    16  SkA-3
30  Horak, Jiri           16  CC-3
30  Sheffer. Jackie       16  SCT-5 ACT-4
30  Troutman, Jim         16  SCT-3
34  Smith,Norm            15  NCA-3
35  Coussens, Ben         14  PC-3
36  Thomson, Ben          12  SkC-4
37  Secor, Randy          11  SWC-4
37  Whitney, Marian (jr)  11  SkA-4
39  Fedor, Jeff           10  TCC-4
40  Davis, Jon             9  SWR-5
40  Protheroe, Dan         9  SCA-5
42  Jones,  Kyle (jr)      8  HC-5
43  Farkas, Leslie         6  CC-5
43  Reynolds, Randy        6  MMM-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR  16  Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike  26  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
MM   33  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA  14  SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT   5  Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   7  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF   3  Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl  15  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   9  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA  12  Intercity FAI  Muncie, IN
Sky  10  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   3  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   4  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM   6  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   7  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC   10  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO  25  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF   6  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW    6  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   2  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   9  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    3  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    5  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA  17  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu  25  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   6  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   5  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC   10  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   0  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1B
1   Crowley, Paul       106  SWR-5* MM-1 Hcu-1 IFA-3* HC-2 AFA-1 CFA-3*
2   Jensen, Blake       103  BAl-1 MMM-2 NWF-5* NW -1 CFA-2* PC-1
3   Batiuk, George       91  BAl-3 MMM-1 NWF-2 NW -4* DC-1 Scu-4* SWC-5*
4   Vanlandingham, Ed    90  SCT-3* McL-1 TCC-1 MMM-3* DC-2 ACT-2
5   Wood, Dick           84  SCA-2 SCT-1 SWC-4 ACT-1
6   Simon, Greg          81  SWR-3 Hcu-5* IFA-2 HC-1 AFA-4
6   Emery, Jack          81  SWR-2 MM-4 NCA-1 SWC-3
8   Horak, Ladi          77  Ike-3 MM-2 HC-4 CC-2 Scu-3*
9   McGlashan, Jerry     72  EFF-1 ESF-1 AFA-3 CC-5
10  Bradley, Jim         62  SWR-4 IFA-1 McL-2
10  Clapp, John          62  EFF-2 Sky-2 ESF-2
12  Rohrke, Rich         61  NWF-3 CFA-4 Scu-5 SWC-1 PC-6*
13  Andriukov, Alex      59  USO-1 CFA-1
14  Morrell, Roger       57  MM-3 HC-5 Scu-1
15  Belfield, Mark       56  NCA-2 BAl-4 NW -2
16  Mulligan, Mike       55  Ike-1 SCA-3* Scu-2
17  Davis, Mike          53  Ike-2 NCA-3 PC-4
18  Saks, Dave           50  SCA-1 CFA-5* PC-2
18  Reinhart, Pete       50  SCT-4* TCC-2 DC-3 ACT-3
20  Biedron, Bob         44  SWR-1 USO-4
20  Shailor, John (Jr)   44  Hcu-2 AFA-2
22  Ghio, Walt           42  NWF-1 NW -3
23  Jones, Charles       41  USO-2 PC-3
24  Vaccaro, Tom         38  Sky-3 SkA-2
24  Radziunas, Michelle  38  Sky-1 SkA-4
26  Brown, Gerald        35  SCT-2 TCC-3 ACT-4*
27  Booth, Bill          30  BAl-5 SWC-2
28  Schlosberg, Aram     29  Sky-4 HC-3
29  Radziunas, Sarah     26  SkA-1
30  Nelson, Elmer        25  Ike-4 MM-5
30  Simon, Evan (Jr)     25  Hcu-3 IFA-5
30  Ackerley, Cameron    25  CC-1
33  Peck, Jerry          24  BAl-2
34  Shailor,  Bill       20  USO-3
35  Seymour, John        19  Hcu-4 AFA-5
36  Jensen, Gene         17  MMM-5 NWF-3
36  Tymchek, Bob         17  SCA-5 PC-5
38  Schroedter, Amy      16  Ike-5 NCA-5
38  Allen, Carrol        16  SkA-3
38  Mathews, Tony        16  CC-3
41  Troutman, Mark       15  SCT-5 TCC-4 ACT-5*
41  Harden, Edd          15  McL-3
43  Piserchio, Bob       13  SCA-4
43  Jones, Ryan          13  IFA-4
45  Schroedter,Martin    11  NCA-4
45  Jones, Darold        11  MMM-4
47  Hoffman, Mark        10  USO-5
47  Rowsell, Doug        10  CC-4
49  Doerner, Brede(Jr)    7  Sky-5
50  Ioerger, Tom          6  SkA-5
51  Ulm, Allan            5  NW -5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR   7  Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike  12  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
MM   18  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA   6  SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT   3  Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   1  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF   0  Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl  13  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   3  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA   4  Intercity FAI  Muncie, IN
Sky   0  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   1  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   3  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM   3  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   0  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC    1  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO   6  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF   2  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW    2  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   0  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   2  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    3  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    0  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA   3  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu  14  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   0  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   5  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC    4  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   0  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1C
1   Simpson, Roger        97  Ike-1 MM-3 NCA-1 ACT-1
2   Chesson, Don          94  SWR-1 Ike-3 SCT-1 USO-1 Scu-4* ACT-5*
3   Parker,  Faust        86  McL-1 TCC-2 USO-2 ACT-2
4   Roberts, Mike         72  MM-4* BAl-2 NWF-1 NW -1* Scu-2
5   Mc Burnett, Ron       69  BAl-4* NWF-2 NW -2 Scu-1
5   Poti,  Norm           69  MM-5* Hcu-1 IFA-1 USO-4* Scu-3
7   Etherington, Chuck    66  SWR-2 MMM-1 DC-2
8   Pulley, Lynn          62  SWR-3 Ike-4* SCA-2 PC-1
9   Spence, Henry         61  SCT-2 TCC-1 USO-3 ACT-3*
10  Gewain, Matt          60  SCA-1 BAl-1 USO-5 CFA-3* PC-3*
10  Servaites, Bucky      60  MM-2 Hcu-3 AFA-2 Scu-5*
12  Carroll, Ed           51  SWR-5 SCA-4* CFA-1 PC-2
13  Happersett, Ken       48  MM-1 SCA-3* BAl-3
14  Morris, Gil           45  Hcu-2 IFA-3* AFA-1
14  Solomon, Roland       45  MMM-2 DC-1
16  Ellington, Jeff       42  Ike-2 CFA-2
17  Shvedenkov, Yury      35  HC-1 CC-4
18  Mathis, Dick          33  SWR-4 Ike-5 MMM-3
19  Troutman, Mark        30  SCT-3 TCC-3 ACT-4*
20  Condon, Eric          25  CC-1
21  Johannes, Dave        21  SCA-5 DC-3
22  Loriecki, John T      20  IFA-2
22  Pecherski, Rostislav  20  CC-2
24  Schlachta,  Frank     15  CC-3
25  Loriecki, John F      10  IFA-4
25  Joyce, Doug           10  PC-4
27  Ginder, Fred           8  BAl-5
28  Grulinski, Richard     5  CC-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR   1  Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike   3  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
MM    7  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA   0  SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT   1  Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   2  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF   0  Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl   1  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   0  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA   0  Intercity FAI  Muncie, IN
Sky   2  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   0  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   2  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM   0  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   2  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC    0  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO   6  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF   0  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW    0  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   1  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   0  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    2  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    0  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA   0  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu   1  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   2  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   5  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC    1  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   0  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1P
1   Hanford, Bob            100  SWR-1 SCT-1 TCC-2* USO-4* DC-1 ACT-1
2   Rounsaville, Dave        96  MM-2 BAl-1 Sky-1 SkA-2* USO-2* ESF-1
3   Secor, Cody  (jr)        76  MM-1 SWC-1 PC-1
4   Robertson. Tony          71  Ike-1 MM-5 DC-2 SWC-2
5   Pacelli, Brian(jr)       61  Sky-2 SkA-1 USO-3
6   Troutman, Mark           45  TCC-1 ACT-2
7   Parsons, Dave            40  Ike-3 Scu-1
8   Secor, Randy             36  Ike-2 MM-3
9   Ferrario,  Anthony (jr)  31  MM-4 NCA-2
10  Simpson, Reid            26  USO-1
11  Chinmay, Jaju            25  NCA-1
12  Fedor, Mike              21  USO-5 ACT-3
13  Brown, Gerld             10  ACT-4
14  Sheffer. Jackie           5  ACT-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR  12  Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike  17  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
MM   24  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA  -x- SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT   4  Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   4  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF   0  Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl   3  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   4  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA   7  Intercity FAI  Muncie, IN
Sky   6  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   4  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   3  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM  10  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   6  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC    4  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO  35  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF   3  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW    5  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   1  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   4  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    8  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    0  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA  13  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu  13  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   6  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   6  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC    8  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   0  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1G
1   O'Dell, Tiffany     99  SWR-1 Ike-3 BAl-2* MMM-1 NWF-1 NW -2* CFA-3* Scu-4*
2   Brocks, Peter       95  SWR-5* BAl-1 MMM-4* DC-2 CFA-2 SWC-1
3   Jones, Charlie      89  SWR-2 HC-4 CFA-1 Scu-1 PC-2*
3   Vanlandingham, Ed   89  SCT-4* McL-1 TCC-1 CFA-4 ACT-1
5   VanNest, Brian      82  SWR-4 Ike-4 MM-1 NW -1
6   Ioerger, Tom        79  IFA-2 SkA-4* HC-1 AFA-3 Scu-3
7   Belfield, Mark      76  MM-4 NCA-1 BAl-3 NWF-3* NW -3* CFA-5* Scu-5* SWC-2
8   Allen, Carrol       72  Sky-2 SkA-1 HC-3 USO-5
9   Ghio, Walt          70  MM-3 NCA-2 NWF-2 NW -4
10  Clapp, John         67  Sky-3 HC-2 ESF-1 SWC-5
11  DeLoach, Don        59  SWR-3 Ike-5 MMM-3 USO-4
12  Emery, Jack         54  NCA-3 Scu-2 SWC-3
13  Edmonson, Dave      51  MM-2 DC-1
14  Reinhart, Pete      45  SCT-1 TCC-2 ACT-2*
14  Sechrist, Dave      45  IFA-3* USO-3 AFA-1
16  Buss, Bill          42  Sky-1 SkA-3
17  Markos, Chuck       35  Hcu-1 AFA-4
18  Simon, Greg         31  IFA-4 AFA-2
18  Wood, Dick          31  SCT-2 ACT-4
20  Davis, Mike         30  Ike-2 PC-5
20  Brown, Gerld        30  SCT-3 TCC-3 ACT-5*
20  Vaccaro, Tom        30  USO-1
23  Tymchek, Bob        29  Ike-1
24  Hatschek, Bob       27  Sky-5 SkA-2
24  Batiuk, George      27  DC-3 SWC-4
26  Rohrke, Rich        26  PC-1
26  Parkyn, Chris       26  IFA-1
28  Gerszewski, James   25  USO-2
29  Reynolds, Randy     22  MMM-2
30  Davis, Troy (Jr)    21  NCA-4 PC-4
31  Crowley, Paul       20  Hcu-2
31  Klingaman, Jerry    20  McL-2
33  Sisk, Marc          18  MMM-5 DC-4
34  VanNest, Kurt       17  PC-3
35  Schroedter, Aimee   16  MM-5 IFA-5
35  Troutman, Mark      16  ACT-3
37  Konefes, Ed         15  Hcu-3
37  Hepler, Eric        15  McL-3
39  Lacey, David        11  Sky-4
40  Masterman, Paul     10  Hcu-4
40  Hepler, Tom         10  McL-4
42  Rousseau, Don        6  SkA-5
42  Murphy, Jerry        6  DC-5
44  Vernon, Ted          5  NW -5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR   6  Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike   9  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
MM   11  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA  -x- SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT  -x- Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   2  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF   0  Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl   6  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   1  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA   2  Intercity FAI  Muncie, IN
Sky   4  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   1  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   5  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM   4  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   4  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC    3  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO  12  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF   5  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW    4  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   1  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   2  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    3  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    0  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA   7  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu   9  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   3  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   5  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC    7  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   0  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1H
1   McKever, Mike      104  SWR-1 Ike-3* MM-4* NCA-1 BAl-3* USO-1 NWF-1 NW -1* Scu-5* PC-2*
2   VanNest, Brian      98  SWR-5* Ike-1 MM-5* BAl-2* Sky-2* MMM-2* HC-1 USO-4* NWF-3* NW -2 CFA-1 PC-1*
3   Sifleet, Bob        97  Ike-5* IFA-1* Sky-1 SkA-1 HC-2* USO-2* AFA-1 CFA-4* Scu-2
4   Pailet, Jean        95  Hcu-1 IFA-2 Sky-3* McL-1 SkA-4* ESF-1 AFA-2*
5   Parker, Jim         89  SWR-2 Ike-2 BAl-1 NWF-2 NW -3* Scu-3* SWC-2*
6   Hines,Lee           78  SWR-3 MM-2 TCC-2 MMM-4* USO-5* NWF-4* DC-2 CFA-2* Scu-4* SWC-3* PC-5*
7   Thompson, Mike      69  Ike-4* MM-3 BAl-5* MMM-1 CFA-3* Scu-1
8   Smith, Norm         53  SWR-4 NWF-5* NW -4 SWC-1 PC-4
9   Fedor, Mike         50  TCC-1 ACT-1
10  Jones, Kyle (Jr)    49  HC-3 USO-3 PC-3
11  Davis, Jon          38  MM-1 BAl-4
12  Phelan, Dennis      30  Sky-4 SkA-2
12  Sisk, Marc          30  MMM-3 DC-3
14  Edmonson, Dave      25  DC-1
14  Berry, Dan          25  TCC-4 ACT-3
16  Troutman, Mark      20  TCC-3 ACT-5
16  Sheffer. Jackie     20  ACT-2
18  Radziunas, Kathy    15  SkA-3
18  Brown, Gerald       15  TCC-5 ACT-4

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR   1  Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike   3  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
MM   11  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA  -x- SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT   2  Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   1  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF   1  Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl   1  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   3  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA   4  Intercity FAI  Muncie, IN
Sky   2  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   2  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   6  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM   0  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   4  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC    0  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO   6  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF   1  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW    1  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   3  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   1  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    3  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    0  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA   2  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu   4  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   1  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   8  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC    0  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   0  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1J
1   Parker, Faust       102  SWR-1 SCT-1* McL-1 TCC-1 USO-1
2   Pailet, Jean         95  EFF-1 IFA-4* Sky-2* McL-2 SkA-1 USO-5* ESF-3* AFA-1
2   Rounsaville,Dave     95  MM-3* BAl-1 Sky-1 SkA-2 USO-3* ESF-1
4   Hanford, Bob         66  SCT-2 TCC-2 DC-1
5   Morris, Gil          65  Ike-2 MM-5* Hcu-1 IFA-2
6   Johannes, Dave       62  MM-2 DC-2 Scu-2
6   Robertson, Tony      62  Ike-1 MM-4 SWC-1
8   Roberts, Mike        60  NWF-1 NW -1 Scu-4
9   Lorbiecki, John T    45  Hcu-2 IFA-1
10  Parsons, Dave        35  CFA-2 Scu-3
11  Gunder, Austin       27  MM-1
12  Parker, Jim          26  TCC-3 ACT-4
12  Fedor, Mike          26  TCC-4 ACT-3
14  Jaju, Chinmay(jr)    25  NCA-1
14  Kerger, Terry        25  CFA-1
14  Poti, Norm           25  Scu-1
14  Spence, Henry        25  ACT-1
18  Spence, Steve        21  USO-2
19  Mollendorf, Joe      20  ESF-2
19  Lissotchenko, Segie  20  ACT-2
21  Mennano, Guy         15  Ike-3
21  Lorbiecki, John F    15  IFA-3
21  Pacelli, Brian(jr)   15  SkA-3
21  Bell, Tom            15  DC-3
25  Spence, Henry        11  USO-4
26  Kerr, Tom            10  SkA-4
27  Troutman, Mark        6  TCC-5
28  Terenchek, Igor       5  ACT-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR   1  Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike   3  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
MM    2  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA   0  SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT   5  Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   0  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF   0  Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl   3  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   0  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA   0  Intercity FAI  Muncie, IN
Sky   2  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   1  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   1  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM   0  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   0  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC    0  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO   5  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF   2  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW    2  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   0  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   0  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    2  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    0  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA   0  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu   0  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   2  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   4  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC    0  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   0  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1Q
1   Crowe,Bernie        90  SWR-1 Ike-2 BAl-2* NWF-2 NW -2* SWC-1
2   Wood, Dick          85  MM-2 SCT-2 BAl-3* DC-1 SWC-2 ACT-3*
3   Pollard, Frank      75  Ike-1 MM-1 BAl-1* NWF-1 NW -1*
3   Berry, Dan          75  SCT-1 TCC-1 USO-1
5   Parker, Julie       60  SCT-3 McL-1 ACT-2
6   Ivers, Rich A       45  Sky-1 USO-2
7   Ivers, Dick J       35  Sky-2 USO-3
8   Sheffer. Jackie     25  ACT-1
9   Reinhart, Pete      20  DC-2
10  Oldenkamp, John     15  Ike-3
10  Troutman, Mark      15  SCT-5 ACT-4
12  Lupazelli, Ed       10  USO-4
12  Fedor, Mike         10  SCT-4
14  Mays, Jim            5  USO-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR  -x- Southwest Regionals- Eloy ,AZ
Ike  10  Winter Classic- Lost Hills, CA
Cal   9  MaxMen 14 Rounder- Lost Hills, CA
SCA   0  SCAT Annual- Lost Hills, CA
SCT  -X- Spring Cup- Seguin TX
NCA   0  NorCal FF Champs- Sacramento, CA
EFF  -X- Eastern FF Champs, Ingleside, MD
BAl   5  Big Al, Lost Hills, CA
Hcu   0  Hoosier Cup, Muncie. IN
IFA   0  Intercity FAI& nbsp; Muncie, IN
Sky   0  Skyscrapers FAI Challenge, Wawayanda NY
McL   0  McLaughlan Fiesta 5 Flags - Pensacola, FL
TCC   0  Texas Cloud Climbers,  Allen TX
MMM   1  MMM 14 Rounder-Denver, CO
SkA   0  Skyscrapper Annual,Wawayanda, NY
HC    0  Huron Cup- CFB Borden, Ontario Canada
USO   0  US Outdoor Champs (NFFS)- Muncie, IN
NWF   0  NW FF Champs, Tanget, OR
NW    0  NW FAI Challenge Tanget, OR
ESF   0  ESFFC, Geneseo, NY
AFA   0  FAI Invit. Munci, IN
DC    2  Dynasty Cup-Denver, CO
CC    0  Canadian Cup, Camp Borden
CFA   0  Calif. FAI Invit./ Canada Cup, L.H. CA
Scu   0  Sierra Cup- Sacramento, CA
SWC   0  S.W. FAI Challenge,  LasVegas, NV
ACT   0  Autumn Cup USAF Aux Field- Seguin, TX
PC    0  Patterson FAI Challenge- Lost Hills, CA
AZC   4  Airazona Championships-Eloy, AZ
KOI   0  King Orange Intl- Palm Bay, FL

F1E
1   Brocks, Peter       97  Ike-3* Cal-1 BAl-4* MMM-1 DC-1 AZC-2
2   Sifleet, Bob        69  Ike-2 Cal-2 AZC-1
3   Ioerger, Tom        49  Ike-1 Cal-4 AZC-4
4   Wood, Dick          40  BAl-5 DC-2 AZC-3
5   VanNest, Brian      29  Ike-4 Cal-3
6   Furutani, Norm      27  Ike-5 Cal-5* BAl-2
7   Parsons, Dave       25  BAl-1
8   Hannah, Bruce       15  BAl-3

 

Fly for Cash

 

I have just formed a new organization of which I am the president, treasurer and secretary.  No other members are allowed.  The name of the organization is Central States Air Team, otherwise known as CSAT.  The sole purpose of this organization is to promote FAI Free Flight events in the Center States (Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin) by offering a cash prize at the end of each season.  The only rules are that the contests be held in the above states and that each person who wants to enter the cash prize venue makes a $100 ante before flying in any contest if he or she wants their scores to count for the end-of-season prize.  For outlanders, the ante is $500 because they will be taking advantage of all the superior flying fields and contest organization in these Central States.   We understand that they may feel that they are not getting their money’s worth, but considering how the financial world operates today, it is a reasonable fee.  Prizes will be divided from the total ante and awarded to the first-place winners only…who cares about second place anyway?   Ten percent of the entry will be used for cash prize awards, ten percent will be donated to the USA World Championship Teams, ten percent to the NFFS and the rest will be used to cover overhead.
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Chuck Markos




Death of F1J


Reid has brought up many good points (as have others) about the finals and, in his latest posting, F1J. We have seen a decrease in F1J. It started years ago tho, as the high tech, high performance purchased models began to take over. It was a normal progression, the same that we have seen over and over again in our sport. We make what looks like simple, inexpensive, broad based rules and soon the technology of the time takes over.
 
Look at EZ B indoor- it was very simple and for a long time the model was realistic for the average builder. However, the masters of the sport began to take it seriously and now it is no longer a begineers indoor event. Penny Plane is the same.
 
Now, F1J has "technologied" itself to death and to compete you do need the 6 paneled, Cyclon powered, full bunted carbon model. I know, Jean Palleit (sp?) (my tree climbing buddy) is in the top of the points with his simplistic balsa models. But, that is because he has taken the time and toured the country, looking for points. But, has he won many events?
 
The event "needed" 5 second engine runs to calm these things down to a reasonably performing model. A good one will still top 5 minutes without too much problem. 5 Seconds on a balsa old style F1J will hardly do two. That is where we have killed the participation. Maybe we say, oh well, if you want to play with the big boys ya gotta pay the price.
 
I hate to say it, but do we make up more rules that handicap the technology and provide the standard models an engine run advantage? I really do not like these kind of things and know that it will never happen. So, we have an event that only the techies will fly and be competitive in.
 
I do know that my son John loves the 5 second rule. It makes it more competitive and is actually easier to trim! We all know what happens in those last 2 seconds...
 
It all boils down to F1J is still just another FAI event that takes time, money, and technology if you want to win. No one is stopping others from playing in our field, but when you only have a left handed glove and you are a rightie......
 
FAI has turned into a money pit and those that wish to play at the top of the game are willing to put the time, effort, and money into it. We can not fault the competitor that puts more of these three into the mix. And, most times, they will win...
 
And finally, I am still of the opinion that for the finals, you pay your money and you get to play.
 
ps.....Send me more Sympo articles- In fact, why not someone that has the [program's best interests at heart, write something up?
 
John Lorbiecki
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Looking for Sympo Articles


This is the second call for manuscripts for the 2009 Sympo. I need help in getting these from my FAI (and non-FAI) friends. Please write me with your ideas and I will help persuading you to become a prominent published author!
 
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John Lorbiecki




Wakefield Centenary


Roger and everyone else across the World ,
 
May I make a suggestion.
 
In three years time it will be the 100th anniversary of the Wakefield Cup contest, held on July 5th 1911, at Crystal Palace, London, according to what I read in SAM 1066's Newsletter by Peter Michel.
 
Now just suppose, that an International 100 th Anniversary Wakefield Competition was held in 2011? 
 
On this particular occasion however, to celebrate the past 100 years and to find the very best flier in the World, each competitor has to achieve a combined score from flying a combination of vintage, classic and modern Wakefield designs flying to the rules pertaining at each period, over six rounds, completed with a single unlimited fly off?
 
Now surely this Centenary Competition will be sufficiently attractive and technically challenging for every FF flier in the World to want to have a go at winning this coveted, unique Crown??
 
This competition would bring all Free Flight Groups together, providing focus and publicity to our cherished hobby, which I believe we all seek.
 
Nick Bosdet.
 
 

Non-European Championships

 

Grand Duke of SCAT and All That Is,

 

I think your main problem is the sparse population of the FAI Free Flight World, outside of Europe

 

If you want a contest with 25-30 Countries on North American soil, you need to sub-divide into that many Countries and then put up with all the International bickering that we have to put up with in Europe.  I’ll have a word with that nice Mr Obama.

 

The fact is that Europe has Countries smaller than your States.  Why not have an inter-state Pan American Champs?  If California keeps winning, you could group states so as to get similar size populations of sportsmen.

 

Regards

 

Mike Fantham




Eur -> World Champ

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Hi Roger

The best solution is to organise a World champ every year and to suppress the European champs. The organisation needs exactly the same time and I'm sure that most of european competitor prefer to compete a WC than a EC.

Frederic



Faust's Extreme Comments

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SCAT, through the Americas Cup program, has developed an incredible nation wide contest circuit made up of both large and small events. These events represent both pure FAI and mixed FAI/AMA formats. The value added by the A.C. has been responsible for increased participation and financial viability for many of these contests. Having said that, I think that SCAT has a responsibility to not pull the rug out from under these events, especially the smaller ones.
Would it make more sense for SCAT to maintain the AC as is, and have a separate category for the Xtreme entrants at the same contest? Contestants could be scored by the current system and by the proposed Xtreme system for the designated events. At the end of the year you could recognize the small, large and Xtreme champions. This could be phased in over time and would give SCAT a chance to "test the waters" before diving headlong into a format that might or might not work.
The problems I see with the Xtreme concept are numerous. First the contest should be evenly distributed across the country (a problem?). For those of us still working, making it to 4 events requiring significant travel (1.5 - 2 days driving each way) is an issue. I have determined that air travel with F1C's is no longer an option for me because the skies are no longer "friendly". So my current schedule allows for 2-3 long and 3-4 short trips (<1 day each way) per year provided that work and personal life events allow. Then we throw in the Finals every other year and well --- you get my drift. I think MOST Americas Cup participants lay out their schedule and that’s that, unless there is some specific opportunity at the end of the year that could give them a shot at the win. I feel SCAT might be very disappointed at the relatively few people that will be interested in the proposed Xtreme format, especially if said format is really disguised future team selection process. The apple cart is in pretty good shape as it stands right now. With the fragile state of free flight nation wide, I implore SCAT to not upset that cart any more than necessary.
Faust



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Roger Morrell