SEN 1273 2008

Table of Contents

  1. Bill Hartill from Family and Friends
  2. US Travel Advisory, Heads Up
  3. Lost Hills Info and Sign Up
  4. Gathering of the now famous
  5. Success is more due to getting the best out of what you have.

Bill Hartill

WIlliam R. Hartill 1924-2008 RIP

From: Russell Hartill

On Friday, December 12, 2008, at 6PM, William R. Hartill passed away and returned to his Inza. Sons William J. and Russell D. Hartill were at his side, along with his grandson Douglas S. Hartill. Bill was hospitalized on Tuesday, emergency dialysis started on Wednesday, and he suffered a heart attack and went into a coma from which he did not recover. Bill was living in Phoenix Az and is survived by sons William, Brian and Russell Hartill, and grandsons Douglas and Brannan Hartill.

Per his wishes, his remains will be cremated and together with Inza their ashes will be placed in the Phoenix Veteran's Cememtary and a plaque installed. No services are being planned, however, William J. Hartill would like to attend the upcoming Eloy, AZ contest and remember Dad at this event.

Cards can be sent to the family at the following address:

Russ Hartill
10192 S Bannor Hill Road
Sandy, UT 84092

Dilly on Hartill

Bill Hartill will be much missed by his many friends in Europe, where Inza
and he toured the free flight contests for many years in his battered blue
and white VW Camper with Free Flight Gipsy written on the back. Their
adventures and running repairs to the van never stopped them turning up at
World Cup contests, including one in Ukraine, en route to which they had to
beat a rapid nighttime retreat after a roadside encounter with would-be

Bill flew on C-46s over the Hump between India and China during the War and
was a part of the CAF's team that helped to keep China Doll airworthy at
Camarillo. He also owned a Piper Cub which he ferried from the East Coast
to California with minimal navaids.

I arranged for Bill to proxy fly one of the New Zealand models at the
Plovdiv World Championships in 1975 and the journey there on the Orient
Express forms part of his excellent World Free Flight Review. He was an
enthusiast for FAI flying as well as an internationalist and had the
practical approach and can-do spirit that made his generation a very
special one.

Martin Dilly

Chaussebourg on Hartill

Bill Hartill,
I am very sad to read that Bill left us...
I met Bill Hartill in July 1976, and more precisely on the 4th of July 1976! Josette and me went to California, as Bob White told us to come and that he would organise our holidays. It started at Los Angeles airport (LAX!) when a group with Bob White, Bob Isaacson, Lee Hines, Bob Piserchio and their wives were waiting for us... Then, our first training was at Lake Elsinore, and on the 4th of July , a big party with all Free Flighters at the Hartill's house... Everything was new for us, but so wonderfull. Some of you who were there must remember this beautiful time...
In the evening, after cleaning everything, everybody went away and we stayed with Bill and Inza and their three boys. I remember that on the back of the kitchen door, there was a small blackboard, and in the morning at breakfast, each boy could read his task for the day on that board....Inza was not joking with that!
Then we had a contest in Taft: "Pierre's holiday classic!"
We had a very good time with Bill and Inza.
When he published his book, I saw that there was a lot of room for me in this book... That was a big surprise!
After the World Champs in Taft, Bill built an F1C model on the plans of Dennis Ferrero, with ellyptic wings and ellyptic dihedral. He came to France with this model and flew it successfully at Poitou, winning the first place...He was so happy...
Bill made a very interesting flight to Alaska with a plane that he had more or less rebuilt. As I was also flying at that time, he told me a lot of things about this nice trip.
Bill and Inza came in our home in France, several times, at the Lycée of Venours where I was teaching, and later on in our home where we retired.
Bill was not talking so much, but he had always something fun to tell, and it was always a pleasure to meet him and Inza.
One more is gone... We'll miss you Bill!
Pierre Chaussebourg

Trego on Hartill

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Sorry to hear of Bill's passing.  He was a dear friend.  He was a true leader and will be sorely missed.  I'm living in Utah now but would like to have info on the 50th .  
I have so many fond memories from the early SCAT days.   I'd love to hear from any of the old timers...
Jim Trego
[Jim is one of the original 9 founding members]

Woodhouse on Bill Hartill

I was sad to read the news of the death of Bill Hartill. I knew Bill for many years and counted him as a good friend. We had stayed in each others homes many times over the years and shared many a joke and beer in numerous places across the World. Last time we met was at the SWR at Eloy and Bill was beginning to look somewhat frail. His book "World Free Flight Review" was the book that says it all about our pastime.

Thanks Bill for all those great times we will remember you.

Michael Woodhouse

US Travel Advisory Heads Up

From: Rene Limberger

For all fellow freeflighters who plan on traveling to the US for MaxMen in 2009, please be aware of new regulations for the Visa Waiver Program:

As of January 12th, 2009, all nationals and citizens of Visa Waiver Program (VWP) countries will be required by law to obtain a travel authorisation prior to initiating travel to the United States under the VWP.  This authorisation may be obtained online through the Electronic System for Travel Authorisation (ESTA), a free Internet application administered by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) through a US government website. DHS does not charge VWP travellers a fee for completion of an ESTA application.  Eligible visitors seeking to travel to the United States under the VWP may apply for travel authorization via the ESTA Web site at:

VWP travellers should be aware that unauthorised third parties have established websites, which charge visitors seeking to travel to the United States under the VWP, for information about ESTA and for submitting applications to DHS on behalf of the traveller. These businesses and websites are not associated with the DHS in any way. The US government does not charge a fee to obtain information about or obtain a travel authorisation through the ESTA website.

Use of a private service to apply for travel authorisation via ESTA will not expedite the granting of approval. The ESTA application Web site is available in 16 languages and includes a help section that provides additional information for VWP travellers to guide them through the application process.

Additional information about ESTA may be found at:

Lost Hills Info and Sign Up

Just want to make sure you gents are upto date and know you
where you can find The Western States Regional FF Contest Calendar.
Roger: please put mention of this info on SEN.  

THX, Leeper

Subject: RE: FINAL DRAFT 2009 FF Contest Schedule

Hi All,

I added all the California contests to the monthly listings in the Lost Hills website, plus important events out of state.
Didn't want to slight any of the member clubs by omitting their events.  There is also a link to the 2009 Western States Regional FF Contest Schedule pdf file on the main Upcoming Events page.

Event flyers would be appreciated. If there was already a flyer from 2008 I just referenced that file. Hopefully the various CDs will send me updated info for this year's activities.

Membership lists are up to date per the last information I received from the Secretary earlier this month..
To All CD's and Sponsor's: We can publish your contest flyers on our LH Web Site, email your flyer
to me, John Riese at  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
 John Riese, LHFFMAA Webmaster

A Gathering of the Now  Famous.

When l founded the Thunderbirds  model club in 1954 in my Mom's Basement who would ever think one small organization would produce so many outstanding and famous members of the freeflight community. The death of Bill Hartill has truly saddened me at this writing since we were also friends and neighbors. l never saw anyone use more sticks in a model than Bill and his undying love for the GOT 342! But also enjoying some of Mom's homemade cake were Frank Ehling,Sal Cannizzo,Al Casano (went to school with his daughter Peggy)Jack Florenzie, Jack Fisher, Ed Franklin,and many ,many other well know contributors to our hobby and later on included Vic Nippert and Dick Gildesleve.We were the first Club to ever have two members on FAI teams and our arch competitors were the Skyscrapers with Hatscheck and Dunwoody and the What i wouldn't give to see this gathering of Eagles one more time!

Krine "Red"Laffler AMA859

PS  and should also mention Don Garafola,Joe  Nuzzer ,Harry Tcheck, George Be Block, Hank Cox, and George Hoza

Success is more due to getting the best out of what you have.
John's piece about F1J makes a load of sense. Although I'm an F1B flyer, I think what he says is very true and applies to all the FAI classes.  If I thought the only way to be competitive is to buy expensive models, I'd have given up long ago, due to lack of funds.  It's good for those who can afford it to get a good start by buying complete models but I don't understand why you cannot still be competitive making your own.  He's so right about the importance of being able to fly  what ever you have well and pick good air.  A brand new Andriukov F1B or Verbitsky F1C or F1JH will not guarantee success if you don't know how to use it properly.
We have a huge range of specialized parts available when we need them (VP DPR Props and Geared motors for example), but providing you can make a reasonably well constructed high tec model yourself using a few hard to make items like these, there's no reason why you can't still be competitive, without spending a fortune.  If I could afford it I would certainly buy a model or two, but I would try to learn from them and then maybe improve on them.  Surely it worked  pretty well for Jerry Fitch! and many others who still fly mostly their own designs.
Peter King. 

Roger Morrell