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SCAT Electronic News 3 March 2005 issue 935
Table of Contents
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Maxmen 2005
Re: lube lore - Andresen et al
USA F1E World Cup and other thoughts - Davis
A Celebrity Amongst Us - Bauer
Address - Brokenspar
F1E Team Selection Finals Results - Leaper
Fwd: Re: Max Men Contest - Ditto
Max Men - Thorkildsen
lost hills FAI challenge - Brun
Sewage Sludge - Gewain
NFFS membership drive - Deloach
New engine 2005 for FAI F2D
2004 F/F Nats available on DVD - Albriss
Back to the future
Max Men Report? - Rozelle
Flying in Michigan - Brokenspar
Maxmen 2005
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F1A
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PARKER, J. USA 2220+287
NYHEGN, J DEN 2220+279
SIFLEET, R USA 2200
SPENCE, S. USA 2169
MC KEEVER, M USA 2158
DIEZ, H USA 2154
BUSNELLI, E USA 2146
STAMOV, V UKR 2143
DAVIS, J USA 2139
FANTHAM, M GBR 2111
EDGE, C GBR 2093
ABAD, J SPA 2069
ALLNUTT, P CAN 2068
ZINK, D USA 2064
BAUER, K. USA 2049
MADELIN, G GBR 2048
FARMER, J. USA 2043
VAN NEST, BRIAN USA 2037
BESCHANSY, V UKR 2030
KOCHKAREV, M RUS 2019
SMITH, N USA 2005
BRUN, P USA 1903
JACK, A GBR 1814
BROCKS, P USA 1768
BALL, P GBR 1753
BARRON, A. USA 1725
BREEMAN, C BEL 1570
TZVETKOV, T USA 1549
ELLIS, A USA 1487
CARTER, J GBR 1462
HINES, L USA 1417
SCHLOSSBERG, A USA 1248
ULM, G. USA 922
TERZIAN, F USA 540
OLDFIELD, D GBR 290
PUHAKKA, R USA 220
F1A Junior
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SECOR, T. USA 2181
VIVCHAR, VUKR 2143
PARKER, D.USA 2136
FARMER, S.USA 2110
COUSSENS, USA 2054
BAUER, B USA 2022
BARRON, P.USA 1941
JONES, K. USA 1097
TETRICK.L USA 1000
F1B
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BURDOV, A RUS 2280+412
RUYTER, P NET 2280+358
EVDOKIMOV RUS 2280+348
RYBCHENKOV RUS 2280+340
BOOTH, B USA 2280+337
JENSEN, B USA 2280+312
BIEDRON, B USA 2280+299
BEN-ITZHAK, IISR 2272
MULLIGAN, M USA 2263
GUNDER, T. USA 2262
GHIO, W USA 2259
JONES, R. USA 2259
ANDRIUKOV, A USA 2257
MORRELL, R USA 2250
HORAK, L CAN 2236
TYMCHEK, B USA 2230
GORBAN, E UKR 2203
KULAKOVSKY, OUKR 2198
CROWLEY, P USA 2190
SHAILOR, P USA 2190
SEIFERT, P. GER 2150
EMERY, J USA 2147
ACKERLEY, C CAN 2141
PISERCHIO, R USA 2115
NELSON, E USA 2115
ULM, A USA 2098
RADZUINAS, S.USA 2064
RAYMOND, A. USA 1979
SCHEIMAN, P USA 1969
WALTONEN, Y FIN 1807
SEIFERT, R. GER 1583
WOOD, D USA 1485
BRADLEY, J USA 807
LUEKEN, J USA 513
ROHRKE, R USA 472
CLAPP, J USA 460
FELIX, R USA 379
IOERGER, T USA 360
SOMERS, J NET 312
RAYMOND, J. USA 301
WOODHOUSE, M GBR 284
VAN MERKESTYNNET 180
ENGELSKIRGER,USA 95
JONES, C. USA 85
F1C
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ARCHER, R USA 2280+420+540
SIMPSON, R USA 2280+420+523
GUNDER, A. USA 2280+420+520
VERBITSKY, E UKR 2280+420+512
WATSON, P GBR 2280+420+452
SHIRLEY, D USA 2280+420+438
PERKINS, D USA 2280+420+430
BABENKO, A UKR 2280+420+420
SCREEN, S GBR 2280+419
MENNANO, G USA 2280+379
KIRILENKO, A USA 2280+356
SERVAITES, B USA 2280+259
GEWAIN, M USA 2252
TARGAMADZE RUS 2211
MORRIS, G USA 2178
MC BURNETT, R USA 2003
NYHEGN, H DEN 1484
GUTAI, R USA 1101
HAPPERSETT, K USA 1060
KERGER, T USA 884
JOHANNES, D USA 552
POTI, N USA 540
CHESSON, D USA 458
F1G
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GORBAN 600+240+360+295
CROWLEY 600+240+360+167
TYMCHEK 600+240+333
RUYTER 600+240+303
BROCKS 600+240+290
BAGALINI 600+405
GHIO 600+207
JONES, R. 600+175
WOOD 600+168
MARKOS 600+120
SHAILOR 600+98
BOOTH 599
EMERY 589
NELSON 579
SEIFERT, D. 572
O'DELL 571
BURDOV 559
CLAPP 557
SEIFERT, T. 549
GANNON 504
RAYMOND 468
VAN NEST, BOB 281
IOERGER 215
F1H
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KOCHKAREV, M 600+240+360+512
STAMOV 600+240+360+506
VAN NEST, BRIAN 600+240+306
JONES, K. 600+240+300
COUSSENS, B 600+240+168
MC KEEVER 600+234
SIFLEET 600+193
BESCHASNY 600+174
HINES 600+152
MADELIN 600+116
ALLNUT 596
DAVIS, J. 579
SMITH 567
YOSHOKA 556
BUSNELLI 497
CARTER 360
EDGE 294
F1J
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WATSON 600+240
WARREN 600+240
SPENCE, S. 600+240
SHIRLEY 600+240
SERVAITES 600+240
ROBERTS 600+240
SCHELP 600+240
SCREEN 600+240
POTI 600+240
JOHANNES 600+240
GUTAI 600+240
GUNDER, A. 600+240
HAUGHT 107
F1P
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SECOR, C. USA 1260
ANDREWS,S USA 1136
FERRARIO, USA 232
Re: lube lore
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Roger,
Here's a sobering report from the indoor group.
Wonder if same effect on outdoor rubber?
50yr old Mark's Handbook implied water storage was beneficial. Best
to wash off talc first.
Probably better to "can it" like fruit with boiling water etc if
oxygen/ozone are as fast acting as reported here.
Anyone have experience with storage in silicone oil?
H
--- In This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., "Alan Cohen" wrote:
I don't know about green soap/glycerin, but I just discovered that
those ozone producing air purifiers are really bad for rubber. I
have a Fresh Air by Ecoquest. It's a great machine and does a
miraculous job and cleaning the air, even killing molds and mildews,
but after flying my little pistachio phantom flash around the living
room one night, I came downstairs the next morning to find both the
motor and rubber that holds the wing on dissinegrated into dozens of
pieces and lying under the plane. I thought it was some 8/93 I had
laying around so I thought it might have been do to the age of the
rubber, so I tried some 7/02 and the same thing happened!
Conclusion, these machines will destroy a batch or rubber in a few
days! I hope mine is safe in the fridge, but I sure not going to
take it out on the coffee table for a stripping session!
Alan
"Mark Bennett" wrote:
>
>
> Anyone know of hard evidence that glycerin-green soap type rubber
> lubes somehow degrade rubber quality if lubed motor is stored
without
> washing off? I know it's been handed down as lore for years, but
> what component supposedly hurts rubber? (I've had no apparent
> problems with silicone or urethane lubes on motors for year or
two.)
> YBM
USA F1E World Cup and other thoughts
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Hello F1E enthusiasts,
Kudos to all of you who have helped make F1E a reality in the USA. I
think we are on to something fun and the tie in with the Max-Men and
now a World Cup contest are both great steps in getting a larger F1E
community. I have no doubt that next year we will double the F1E
attendance again. Would any of you be willing to come to the Denver
early July America's cup contest and fly F1E if we can get the right
site? Last year a few of us flew F1E at the 14 round FAI contest. I
think there are several Denver flyers who would fly if we had a real
contest? Peter Brocks and I are also exploring a possible F1E summer or
fall contest in Norther Arizona roughly half way between Phoenix and
Albuquerque. And as the latest in a string of wild hairs would there be
any interest in having a F1E contest in Albuquerque during the
International Balloon Fiesta which takes place the first 10 days of
October? The weather here that time of year is normally beautiful and
perfect, in spite of the one finals that was held in ABQ many years ago
and had wind and rain. Lost Hills has a bad hair day just as often as
we do so don't have a knee jerk reaction and right it off. Any other
thoughts about F1E activity in the coming months and years??
Jon Davis
A Celebrity Amongst Us
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We don't need to watch TV or view the Academy Awards to observe famous
people as I've just discovered there is one in our midst. At the recent
Maxmen banquet I purchased one of the very nice photos that Jon Davis
had produced to support the Jr team. This particular one featured Jon
holding his beautiful Maxine Wakefield standing next to Tom Koster many
years ago, somewhere in Europe I presume.
When I got home I stuck the picture up on a cabinet and then a few days
later my 11 year old daughter, who loves the old TV shows from the 70's
walks in all excited and says, "Dad, that's Greg Brady in that picture,
you know, from the Brady Bunch!" I took a look and sure enough she was
right. Jon's dark curly hair and big smile are the spit'n image of the
old Brady Bunch TV star. So it was apparantly not Barry Williams who
played Greg Brady, but our very own Jon Davis, or Mac the Greg Brady
Bigot. Amazing how he kept it secret all these years.
-Ken
Address
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...looking for current address for Andy Bauer.
( found interesting old files..help identify author )
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F1E Team Selection Finals Results
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All,
It was my pleasure to assist the fliers as CD of the just completed F1E Finals.
I want especially recognise and thank Mike Fantham for doing all scorecard
recordingas well as jury membership on short notice.
Scoring results of the first F1E Team Selection Finals.
Venue: approx 9 miles west of Lost Hills, CA
Date: 15 Feb, 2005
Place & flier Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 score
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Max 150 150 150 180 180 120 180
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1. Tom Ioerger 133 150 180 180 113 22 180
[100%] [100%] [100%] [100%] [72%] [22.2%] [100%] 594.2
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2. Vince Croghan118 150 137 123 157 81 95
[88.7%] [100%] [76.1%] [68.3%] [100%] [81.8%] [52.8%] 567.7
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3. Peter Brocks 128 150 63 126 115 99 162
[96.2%] [100%] [35%] [70%] [73.2%] [100%] [90%] 564.4
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4. Ken Bauer 97 150 165 120 125 86 94
[72.9%] [100%] [91.7%] [66,7%] [79.6%] [86.9%] [52.2%] 550.0
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5. Walt Ghio 108 150 125 100 120 73 140
[81.2%] [100%] [69.4%] [55.6%] [76.4%] [73.7%] [77.8%] 534
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6. Jon Davis 132 127 121 129 117 67 65
[99.2%] [84.7%] [67.2%] [71.7%] [74.5%] [67.7%] [36.1%] 501.1
Note: The competition was terminated after 7 rounds due to treacherous, muddy,
retrieval conditions.
Several rain squalls made the gypsum pits & roads very slippery. We left as an
other squall was coming in.
Lee R Hines, CD, #7334
Fwd: Re: Max Men Contest
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Hi Bill,
Yes, I was there, it happened, even with some slippery mud on access
roads, as well as wind on Saturday causing last 2 rds to be scrubbed.
Results as I recall:
F1A: Jim Parker over Jes Nyhegn [only 2 maxouts over the 12 rds]
F1B: Andrei Burdov over Pym Ruyter[perrenial bride's maid!]
F1C: Randy Archer[who else?] over ? [I don't know}
It started raining during last FOs, so many were hustling to pack and
get off field while the getting was still good!
So I can't recall or know who did well in the minis.
For example, many came unstuck in the Sat winds...broken wings or blown
and damaged after landing 3 K north.
I screwed up my DT setting and it popped at 125s to land at 198s.
I had no chase motobike, was bushed and rt leg hurt some, so called it a
day.
Sunday was nice and I flew all 7 rds without trouble.
Chases on my mntn bike were easy.
Mike Fantham shared the whole 10 day experience with me.
We drove back south Monday AM and had to use CA58 to CA14 to I5
alternate route, since a mudslide closed I5 south of Gorman again.
That added some 50-60miles, but we were luckily in no hurry to drop
Mike at LAX for his return flt back to GB.
That's about all I can think of, except Phil Ball and I had a CLG
Challenge comp Sunday PM. I beat his time 4 of 5 flts.
Later he said he got his going better and wanted another go!
I know when to take my victory and resist being baited, so demurred
while ahead!
Ciao,
Leeper
PS: If you want, you can share this with your MMM bods and mag/rag.
L
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Hi Lee,
I've been waiting on an account of the Max Men Contest on SEN but there has
been none. I'm beginning to wonder if the contest even happened, with the rain
and all. Were you there or have you heard anything?
Bill Lovins
Max Men
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Hi Roger,
So what happened with the max men contest? Did it get
rained out like the rest of the west coast?
Terry Thorkildsen
.... a great contest Terry - as usual
lost hills FAI challenge
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This is to inform you all,that the lost hills FAI challenge will not take place
this year.
Sorry but it will not fit in my schedule bin Easter.I will be in Oregon.
Pierre Brun CD
Sewage Sludge
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This evening on the Bakersfield news there was representative of
Holloway mining saying that they have applied for a permit to fill the
pits they have dug next to our Lost Hills flying field with sewage
sludge. If their permit is approved the sewage dumping could begin
before the end of the year. The fill would be 50% sewage sludge and
50% soil and then each pit would be capped with 5 feet of soil.
[ ... more brown material ???]
NFFS membership drive
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There are more than 4000 free flighters in the United States, yet
incredibly, less than half that number are NFFS members.
NFFS is the central voice for FF in North America. The benefits of
membership are many:
--Ten issues per year of 'Free Flight", the award-winning monthly
journal of NFFS. Each issue is jam-packed with plans, expert advice,
building tips, detailed photos of models and modelers, and information
on competitions
--Thousands of dollars each year are awarded to deserving college-bound
free-flighters through the NFFS scholarship program
--Reduced entry fees at major contests such as the NATS
--NFFS volunteers produce the annual Symposium, the premier FF
sourcebook for nearly forty years
--Discounts on free flight book orders, CDs, videos, plans, wearables,
and a host of other products from the NFFS store
To help strengthen our numbers NFFS has launched a membership drive for
2005. New members or those who have let their membership lapse a year or
more may take advantage of it. The deal is simple: sign up for a year
and receive a $10 voucher from NFFS plans. Or, sign up for two years and
you'll receive a $20 voucher. The choice of plans is entirely up to you
and it is valid until 12/31/05.
For more details or to sign up for this exciting offer please visit
www.freeflight.org/jlf/NewMembers.htm.
You must hurry as this offer won't last long. A limited number of free
plan certificates have been printed and when they are gone the offer
will cease.
Thermals,
Don DeLoach
NFFS Publicity Chairman
P.S. Attention newsletter editors, Club presidents, and FF webmasters:
please copy this annoucement and distribute to your club members. Thanks!
New engine 2005 for FAI F2D
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www.cyclonengines.narod.ru
phone/fax +7 3832 793771
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2004 F/F Nats available on DVD
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I now have the 2004 F/F Nats available on DVD.
It can be ordered from my website:
http://www.homegrowntv.com/catalog.html
Regards,
Alan Abriss
Http://www.homegrowntv.com
Free Flight Videos now has secure internet credit card facilities.
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My Plane of Thought is miles above!
Back to the future
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Back to the Future..can you afford a Ford or a
Ferrari?Back when I was a small boy I remember
attending the Wakefield World Championships held at
Teterboro Airport.I saw Al Casano kneeling and start
the watch on Dick Korda"s Historic flight.The world
was a larger place then and many modelers who could
not afford to attend would send their model with
complete instructions to have it flown by a proxy
flyer.In fact, the Skyscrapers Jack Manasian was one
of those appointed flyers.Now times and rules have
changed and WE are the Proxy Flyers but now refer to
these models as our own!We can purchase a
ready-to-fly model from a former world champion,
completely adjusted with flying instructions.The only
skill involved was being able to write (a fat chck
that is!)What has happened to this great hobby that
developed the talents of so many famous contributors
in the Aviation Industry.Marguardt,Ruttan and the
like..where would aviation be if these guys were
buying models?Has our abilities,skills and thinking
boiled down to dollars and cents?????
I witnessed one of our well-known scholarship winning
junior flyers become destroyed since he had some
minor,minor stab damage he could not repair..He was
also not allowed to fly his models until they were
adjusted for him since they were so expensive.A long
way from my first days with a ten cent kit and a
corked bottle of banana oil, but I always could repair
my own stabs.
Is it just me, or have we totally lost something
here?I felt model building helped build my interest in
math,help develop-eye-to-hand skills.mechanical
drawing and of course most important of all the
ability to think and solve problems at a very early
age.I also feel it helped me recieve a college
scholarship highly based on my acquired skills from
model building since it was to Pratt in the school of
Advertising and Industrial Design.
I realize that we are tired and fellow modelers like
Bob Hatschek,myself and other proponents of "The
builder of the model rule"are waving our arms in vain
but we surely lived through the greatest era of the
hobby..I guess someday it will be compared to serving
in the Revolutionary Army!!!!!
respectfully submitted: Red Laffler AMA 859
--- SCAT user wrote:
Max Men Report?
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Hello Roger,
Have I missed an SEN? I cannot find the issue containing round-by-round
scores from Max Men. Am I merely impatient?
Thanks,
Walt Rozelle
Flying in Michigan
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...an engineer
The snow falls
from time to time
providing a little cap
on the little round heads
of the summers' cone flowers
The question is, of course
are they parabolic
or elliptic
.............
Roger Morrell
