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Table of Contents
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2005 World Champs results
WC chase stories - Bauer
The 2005 FreeFlight Forums are in!! - Stalick
Zaic - Mate
Nats Help - Lorbiecki
Re: Model - Mate et al
F1J for sale
World Champ Results and May 28-29 and June 11-12 Contests at Wawayanda - Barron
walston retreval system
Re: Top Banana Plans
Re: Zeeks
Haddock Bobtail - Dana
Drawing 3 views - Lidberg
Sam Casey - Ray
Jim Bradley Medical Update - Bradley
Old F1A Wings wanted - Grigsby
2005 World Champs results
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F1A
1 Mike Mckeever USA 1260 60e 300 295
2 Roland Koglot SLO 1260 60e 300 282
3 Francois Moreau FRA 1260 60e 300 275
4 Vladislav Lazarevich UKR 1260 60e 300 266
4 Victor Stamov UKR 1260 60e 300 266
6 Urmas Kokk EST 1260 60e 300 256
7 Sergey Makarov RUS 1260 60e 300 250
8 Max Herwig GER 1260 60e 300 236
9 Gerhard Aringer AUT 1260 60e 300 232
10 Michal Dvorak CZE 1260 60e 300 231
11 Diego Bovari ARG 1260 60e 251
12 Jim Parker USA 1260 60e 217
13 Joseph Fox ISR 1260 60e 207
14 Igor Yablonovsky UKR 1260 60e 13
15 Anders Persson SWE 1260 60e
16 John Carter GBR 1260 40e
17 Martin Williams AUS 1260 3e
18 Robert Hellgren W/C 240 180 180 178 180 180 180 1258
19 Peter Buchwald DEN 240 177 180 180 180 180 180 1257
20 Jorge Bovio ARG 240 180 180 170 180 180 180 1250
21 Ivan Bezak SVK 240 180 180 180 155 180 180 1235
22 Matti Lihtamo FIN 240 153 180 180 180 180 180 1233
23 Mikael Holmbom SWE 240 180 180 180 180 180 148 1228
24 Bill Colledge GBR 147 180 180 180 180 180 180 1227
25 Mikhail Kochkarev RUS 240 180 180 180 145 180 180 1225 60e
25 Phil Mitchell AUS 240 180 145 180 180 180 180 1225 60e
27 Henning Nyhegn DEN 240 180 180 180 180 180 143 1223
28 Shigeki Miyamoto JPN 240 180 136 180 180 180 180 1216
29 Anibal Arigos FAI 240 156 180 180 180 180 153 1209 60e
29 Cunzhi Lu CHN 240 180 180 129 180 180 180 1209 60e
31 Ardo Parna EST 240 169 133 180 180 180 180 1202
32 Mitsunobu Wada JPN 240 180 121 180 180 180 180 1201
33 Fernando Abarca CHI 240 180 180 109 180 180 180 1189
34 Vincent Croguennec FRA 240 180 180 180 180 100 180 1180
35 Hernan Alarcon CHI 240 180 180 180 140 180 135 1175
36 Per Findahl SWE 240 123 180 151 180 180 180 1174 60e
36 Danijel Terlep SLO 240 180 94 180 180 180 180 1174 60e
38 Helmut Fuss AUT 240 180 180 91 180 180 180 1171 60e
38 Shoji Shirai JPN 240 167 180 104 180 180 180 1171 60e
40 Mike Fantham GBR 240 180 180 89 180 180 180 1169 60e
40 Sergey Pankow RUS 240 89 180 180 180 180 180 1169 60e
42 Claudio Bognolo ITA 240 180 180 123 180 163 162 1168
43 Dusan Ibehej CZE 138 180 180 180 180 128 180 1166
44 Kimmo Kulmakko FIN 240 180 180 180 180 180 81 1161
45 Eyal Zvi galor ISR 240 166 180 180 180 180 94 1160
46 Ants Selgoja EST 145 180 111 180 180 180 180 1156
47 Antoon van Eldick NED 240 180 180 180 68 180 180 1148
48 Thierry Marilier FRA 240 162 153 180 180 95 180 1130
49 Bohuslav Ryz CZE 240 84 143 180 180 180 180 1127
50 Craig King NZL 240 180 180 49 174 180 180 1123 60e
50 Fan Sun CHN 240 132 91 180 180 180 180 1123 60e
52 Ken Bauer USA 240 162 113 115 180 180 180 1110
53 Eduardo Buchard ARG 240 180 97 180 104 180 180 1101 60e
53 Jari Valo FIN 240 180 180 180 180 180 21 1101 60e
55 Gottfried Bachmann SUI 230 180 130 135 109 180 180 1094
56 Ingolf Steffensen NOR 240 180 180 180 180 180 12 1092
57 Pieter de Boer NED 240 180 180 180 180 10 180 1090
58 Vin Morgan AUS 183 180 180 180 180 95 88 1083
59 Franz Wutzl AUT 240 180 180 41 140 180 180 1081
60 Dalong Sun CHN 240 180 180 180 180 180 0 1080
61 Dirk Halbmeier GER 240 108 180 142 180 180 80 1050
62 Wojciech Siodmok POL 240 180 143 0 180 180 180 1043
63 Stefano Pagnini ITA 240 180 62 165 80 180 180 1027
64 Jorg Schellhase GER 240 180 127 180 78 180 95 1020
65 Roberto Rojas CHI 145 180 159 0 180 173 180 1017
66 Avi Romi ISR 240 180 180 21 94 180 180 1015
67 Vegar Nereng NOR 199 180 180 180 49 86 148 1003
68 Benito Bertolani ITA 228 180 180 24 78 180 180 1002
69 Chris Murphy NZL 212 164 143 143 180 81 108 999
70 Javier Abad ESP 240 180 58 89 180 180 114 981
71 Bostjan Bagari SLO 240 0 180 180 71 180 180 971
72 Antony Koerbin NZL 240 180 0 180 69 180 180 969
73 Win Bellen NED 240 180 180 140 75 180 28 963
74 Christoph Bachmann SUI 240 180 180 180 0 0 0 720
75 Peter Allnut CAN 240 180 100 38 0 0 0 498
Number of basic maxes 71 60 55 52 57 64 56
Number of maximums 64 60 55 52 57 64 56
Number of full score 64 50 39 28 23 21 15
Team Results
Country Abbreviation TotalTeam membeplaces
1 Ukraine UKR 3780 4 4 14
2 Sweden SWE 3662 15 23 36
3 Great Britain GBR 3656 16 24 40
4 Russia RUS 3654 7 25 40
5 USA USA 3630 1 12 52
6 Estonia EST 3618 6 31 46
7 Argentina ARG 3611 11 20 53
8 Japan JPN 3588 28 32 38
9 France FRA 3570 3 34 48
10 Australia AUS 3568 17 25 58
11 Czech CZE 3553 10 43 49
12 Austria AUT 3512 9 38 59
13 Finland FIN 3495 22 44 53
14 Israel ISR 3435 13 45 66
15 China CHN 3412 29 50 60
16 Slovenia SLO 3405 2 36 71
17 Chile CHI 3381 33 35 65
18 Germany GER 3330 8 61 64
19 Netherlands NED 3201 47 57 73
20 Italy ITA 3197 42 63 68
21 New Zealand NZL 3091 50 69 72
22 Denmark DEN 2480 19 27
23 Norway NOR 2095 56 67
24 Switzerland SUI 1814 55 74
25 Slovakia SVK 1235 21
26 Uruguay FAI FAI 1209 29
27 Poland POL 1043 62
28 Spain ESP 981 70
29 Canada CAN 498 75
F1B
1 Oleg Kulakovsky UKR 1260120e 376
2 Volodymyr Vivchar UKR 1260120e 363
3 Alex Andriukov USA 1260120e 360
4 Vladimir Komarov RUS 1260120e 350
5 Ray Jones GBR 1260120e 346
6 Bob Tymchek USA 1260120e 328
7 Roger Morrell USA 1260120e 326
8 Richard Blackam AUS 1260120e 325
9 Thomas Wiesiolek GER 1260120e 310
10 Tomaz Hribar SLO 1260120e 288
11 Feng Yang CHN 1260120e 286
12 Klaus Salzer AUT 1260114e
13 Henk van Hoorn NED 1260110e
14 Abraham Baruch ISR 1260 87e
15 Horst Wagner AUT 1260 81e
16 Remo Bovio ARG 1260 57e
17 Koei Tsuda JPN 1260 52e
18 Michael Dahlin SWE 300 180 180 178 180 180 180 1258120e
19 Alan Mcdonald NZL 236 180 180 180 178 180 180 1258 56e
20 Anatoly Rybchenkov RUS 300 180 180 180 180 177 180 1257
21 Wei Yuan CHN 300 180 165 180 180 180 180 1245
22 Stepan Stefanchuk W/C 300 180 180 155 180 180 180 1235120e
22 Vladislav Urban CZE 300 180 180 171 164 180 180 1235120e
24 Minoru Nishizawa JPN 300 146 180 180 180 180 180 1226120e
25 Igor Vivchar UKR 168 180 180 158 180 180 180 1226
26 Pim Ruyter NED 300 180 180 164 161 180 180 1225120e
27 Leigh Morgan AUS 222 180 169 180 156 180 180 1225 42e
28 Josef Petras SVK 283 180 136 180 180 180 180 1216
29 Nikolay Mikheyev RUS 300 180 180 180 145 168 180 1213
30 Terry Bond AUS 300 180 180 180 180 180 131 1211120e
31 Andreas Gey GER 254 180 180 180 131 180 180 1211 74e
32 Hongjun Zhang CHN 300 180 180 180 180 130 180 1210
33 Yrjo Waltonen FIN 300 180 151 180 154 180 173 1198
34 Stas Stankovic SLO 266 180 180 180 180 180 114 1194
35 Gunnar Wivardsson SWE 300 180 180 164 180 180 127 1191
36 Daniel Billam GBR 298 180 180 180 155 180 129 1184118e
37 Miguel Angel Gordillo ESP 185 180 180 180 180 180 104 1184 5e
38 Ramon Durendez ESP 227 180 180 101 180 180 180 1181
39 Francois Ducassou FRA 190 180 180 91 180 180 180 1171
40 Bror Eimar SWE 300 180 180 180 180 89 180 1169
41 Markku Kiiskinen FIN 163 164 180 180 180 113 180 1160
42 Tor Bortne NOR 280 180 180 180 180 146 104 1150
43 Bryan Spooner GBR 283 180 180 180 145 180 93 1138
44 Jan Cihak CZE 279 180 165 180 180 68 180 1133 99e
45 Mirsad Kapetanovic BIH 213 180 180 180 86 147 180 1133 33e
46 Ladislav Horak CAN 300 180 180 180 149 176 86 1131
47 Herald Meusburger AUT 267 180 180 180 167 180 63 1130
48 Tiit Lilloveer EST 235 112 180 180 180 149 146 1127
49 Guy Buisson FRA 280 180 165 131 110 180 180 1126
50 Anselmo Zeri NED 300 180 180 180 91 134 180 1125
51 Kenan Jusufbasic BIH 300 180 180 180 180 117 103 1120120e
52 Ole Torgersen NOR 250 180 180 107 113 180 180 1120 70e
53 Gil Mitzmacher ISR 223 141 157 180 180 180 99 1117
54 Jose Lorenzo FAI 186 180 180 129 87 180 180 1116
55 Ben Itzhak Itzik ISR 300 180 180 180 180 33 180 1113
56 Mario Lovato ITA 236 180 180 111 95 180 180 1106
57 Wilfrid Czincel GER 284 180 180 180 65 131 180 1096
58 Janne Isotalo FIN 35 180 180 160 180 180 180 1095
59 Indrek Harjo EST 185 180 180 123 139 180 112 1094
60 Horacio Ortiz ARG 270 180 147 159 180 122 122 1090
61 Stephen Jallet FRA 216 175 180 180 113 81 180 1089
62 Juan Giol ARG 274 180 180 123 85 180 152 1080
63 David Ackery NZL 173 180 131 124 180 102 180 1070
64 Bohuslav Ryz CZE 280 180 153 180 180 93 103 1069
65 Mario Kusterle ITA 242 180 180 180 130 100 103 1053
66 Walter Liberatore ITA 290 180 180 180 142 180 0 1042
67 Dragan Stankovic SLO 272 180 180 115 180 0 180 1015
68 Toshio Sakamaki JPN 180 180 180 180 88 150 0 958
69 Tarik Jusufbasic BIH 227 180 180 180 180 0 0 900
70 Lincoln Vincent NZL 212 180 180 180 4 2 0 726
71 Ivan Kolic SCG 295 0 0 0 0 0 0 180
Number of basic maxes 67 65 60 52 45 47 48
Number of maximums 28 65 60 52 45 47 48
Number of full score 28 27 25 20 17 12 11
Team Results
Country Abbreviation TotalTeam membeplaces
1 USA USA 3780 3 6 7
2 Ukraine UKR 3746 1 2 25
3 Russia RUS 3730 4 20 29
4 China CHN 3715 11 21 32
5 Australia AUS 3696 8 27 30
6 Austria AUT 3650 12 15 47
7 Sweden SWE 3618 18 35 40
8 Netherlands NED 3610 13 26 50
9 Great Britain 3582 5 36 43
10 Germany GER 3567 9 31 57
11 Israel ISR 3490 14 53 55
12 Slovenia SLO 3469 10 34 67
13 Finland FIN 3453 33 41 58
14 Japan JPN 3444 17 24 68
15 Czech Republic 3437 22 44 64
16 Argentina ARG 3430 16 60 62
17 France FRA 3386 39 49 61
18 Italy ITA 3201 56 65 66
19 Bosnia Herzigovina 3153 45 51 69
20 New Zealand 3054 19 63 70
21 Spain ESP 2365 37 38
22 Norway NOR 2270 42 52
23 Estonia EST 2221 48 59
24 Slovakia SVK 1216 28
25 Canada CAN 1131 46
26 Uruguay as FAI FAI 1116 54
27 Serbia and MonteSCG 180 71
F1C
1 Shigeru Kanegawa JPN 1260120e 300 420 488
2 Randy Archer USA 1260120e 300 420 430
3 Yevhen Verbytsky UKR 1260120e 300 420 410
4 Timo Niiranen FIN 1260120e 300 420 289
5 Leonid Fuzeyev RUS 1260120e 300 420
6 Kenny Happersett USA 1260120e 300 413
7 Viktor Semenyaga UKR 1260120e 300 408
7 Peter Watson GBR 1260120e 300 408
9 Reinhard Truppe AUT 1260120e 300 389
10 John Warren USA 1260120e 300 382
11 Artem Babenko UKR 1260120e 300 350
12 Ge Wei CHN 1260120e 300 267
13 Waechtler Peter GER 1260101e
14 Bill East AUS 1260 82e
15 Alain Roux FRA 1260 81e
16 Michel Reverault FRA 1260 66e
17 John Cuthbert GBR 300 180 180 178 180 180 178 1256
18 Mauricio Zito ARG 246 180 171 180 180 180 180 1251
19 Juri Roots EST 271 180 180 180 168 180 180 1248
20 Bruno Fiegl ITA 300 180 180 164 180 180 180 1244
21 Gerhard Aringer AUT 300 180 180 180 157 180 180 1237
22 Jury Opevalov RUS 300 180 180 180 167 169 180 1236
23 Kazumasa Sekizawa JPN 188 180 180 180 151 180 180 1231
24 Kenan Mandra BIH 150 180 180 180 180 180 180 1230
25 Uwe Glissman GER 220 180 180 180 148 180 180 1228
26 Jiongyu Zou CHN 300 180 180 147 180 180 180 1227
27 Stafford Screen GBR 300 180 180 139 180 180 180 1219
28 Bernard Boutillier FRA 237 180 180 138 180 180 180 1218
29 Giorgio Venuti ITA 260 180 180 134 180 180 180 1214
30 Raimond Naaber EST 212 180 180 180 180 180 127 1207
31 Dittmar Meissnest GER 126 180 176 180 180 180 180 1202
32 Alexander Miskhailenko RUS 110 180 180 180 180 180 180 1190
33 Yungfeng Jing CHN 300 180 180 179 145 180 144 1188
34 Franco Gradi ITA 300 131 180 180 180 180 138 1169
35 Robert Hegenbart AUT 249 180 180 180 120 145 180 1165
36 Roy Summersby AUS 294 180 180 158 155 180 127 1160114e
37 Jon Fletcher AUS 250 180 180 146 136 158 180 1160 70e
38 Fernando Zito ARG 300 180 99 153 165 180 180 1137
39 Gabor Zsengeller HUN 222 112 180 180 100 180 180 1112
40 Kenan Jusufbasic BIH 300 180 180 29 180 180 180 1109
41 Tarik Jusufbasic BIH 290 180 180 15 134 180 180 1049
42 Eduardo Furferi ARG 166 79 165 180 139 136 180 1045
43 Henning Nyhegn DEN 152 40 158 180 84 180 159 953
Number of basic maxes 38 39 38 31 29 39 37
Number of maximums 22 39 38 31 29 39 37
Number of full score 22 21 20 14 12 12 12
Team Results
Country Abbreviation TotalTeam membeplaces
1 USA USA 3780 2 6 10
2 Ukraine UKR 3780 3 7 11
3 France FRA 3738 15 16 28
4 Great Britain 3735 7 17 27
5 Germany GER 3690 13 25 31
6 Russia RUS 3686 5 22 32
7 China CHN 3675 12 26 33
8 Austria AUT 3662 9 21 35
9 Italy ITA 3627 20 29 34
10 Australia AUS 3580 14 36 37
11 Argentina ARG 3433 18 38 42
12 Bosnia Herzigovina 3388 24 40 41
13 Japan JPN 2491 1 23
14 Estonia EST 2455 19 30
15 Finland FIN 1260 4
16 Hungary HUN 1112 39
17 Denmark DEN 953 43
WC chase stories
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Chasing models during the 2005 World Champs in Argentina provided lots
of fun and adventure. The weather seemed somewhat unpredictable as the
wind blew a different direction every day. On F1A day it was blowing
directly towards the lake and there were reports of models landing close
to the water and in and around the nuclear power plant next to the lake.
The flightline was moved to prevent models from getting wet, but there
was one report of a glider that flew away with the towline attached in a
thermal. It flew over the whole lake and was later recovered on the dry
ground on the other side!
The fun for me started on F1B day as I was chasing Roger's model. The
wind was blowing pretty good, around 8m/s, away from the lake and
towards open fields and farms. Thanks to Hector Diaz, the US team had
the assistance of a couple of local Argentinian motorcycle riders to
help chasing. We rode on the back of their bikes while telling them
where to go by either pointing or using newly learned Spanish words.
Although they didn't smell really great, didn't speak english, and one
guy was missing most of his teeth, they quickly figured out how to get
us downwind quickly under the models.
Roger insisted on picking huge thermals, and his flights were drifting
downwind a couple miles at least. About the 3rd round he landed in the
middle of an uncut cornfield. It took about 20 minutes to track it down
with using the radio beacon. Then the next round he overflew the
cornfield but unfortunately the wind caused the model to tumble on the
ground and the tailboom broke. Should have landed in the corn again.
Then the next round he went even further yet into another field.
Straight line chasing was impossible so radio tracking at the end guided
me to the model. It was in a field with a bunch of cows on the other
side of a canal. After searching the canal for a spot where I could
jump over, I noticed the model was sitting about 30 feet from a cow with
horns, which turned out to be a bull. An Australian flyer walking by
confirmed it, "that's a bull!". The bull was looking right at me, and I
was looking right at him. I figured I would just slowly walk up to the
model, and if the bull moved towards me I would run for the canal and
jump in. Fortunately I had left my red team jacket behind this flight.
So as I walked up to the model the bull stared at me the whole time, but
never moved. I wanted to get out of there quickly, but the stab on
Roger's model had come loose and wasn't seated right. I started messing
with it to put it back on while watching the bull at the same time, but
was flustered and nervous so I decided it would be easier to just take
it off. With the stab removed I walked back towards the canal and
fortunately the bull stayed right where he was. Oh, and I forgot to say
that each chase required climbing over a couple barbed wire fences too.
The next day the weather looked nicer and we were chasing for the F1C
guys. In the first round it turns out that the drift in the air is
exactly opposite the drift indications on the ground, and the models are
drifting directly towards the road, power lines, and hills next to the
field. I'm chasing Kenny Happerset's model, which then lands in a tree
about 100 feet up on top of this hill which is covered with dense brush.
Lucky me. Crossing more barbed wire fences I thrash my way through the
brush and up the hill hoping there are no snakes in the grass. My
Argentine motorcycle friend joins in and actually reaches the model
before me. The tree is fortunately not too big, and the model is
dangling by the stab within reach. We carefully get it out with only a
few scratches on the wing. The tough part is then hiking back down
without the model getting caught in the trees and brush, but my friend
helps hack out a pathway.
The rest of the day goes pretty smooth with easy chases, and the
american models land in and around the power lines, power poles, and
fences but miraculously never hit them. I end up chasing John Warren's
model in the flyoff. The 7 min round is flown near dusk around 5:50pm.
John has an overrun and has to launch a 2nd model. I chase the first
model but nobody was available to chase his second flight so it is still
sitting out on the field and the sun is going down. I get the radio
retrieval gear, get Hector and our rental car, and start driving across
the corn fields to a spot near where the model came down. (large
amounts of corn stalks were later pulled from the bottom of the car!)
The radio signal tells me the model is on the other side of a good sized
canal. Jim Parker and Mike Mckeever are crossing this same canal with
Archer's and Happerset's models, so I get Jim's help in finding the
canal crossing spot, which is tough because the canal is surrounded with
four foot high thick brush. Jim and I get across the canal and continue
following the radio signal in the near darkness. Blake Jensen meets up
with us as well from another direction. The radio tracker points
towards another canal surrounded by thick brush, but fortunately this
canal is dry. After some fooling about, several radio lines point
towards a spot in this dry canal. I slowly move in and at the same time
Jim is moving in from the other side of the canal and at almost the same
time we see the model sitting in a low spot down in the brush. Just in
time because about 10 minutes later it is totally dark. Fortunately
Tiffany is close with their car because getting back to where Hector and
I started would have been very hard. We would never have found that
model without the radio.
Chasing was just one part of the World Champs, but was lots of fun for
me. Best part of all is spending time with friends from around the
world. Thanks to all who made this trip possible for the US team, and
others around the world.
Ken Bauer
The 2005 FreeFlight Forums are in!!
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Bob Stalick, NFFS Publications Services at
The 2005 BFMA Free Flight Forums have finally arrived. These books,
which are the British equivalent to the NFFS Symposium publications, are
available from NFFS Publications. The contents of the new Forum should
appeal to just
about every indoor and outdoor free flighter in the US. Here is a partial
listing:
* Further Developments on Discus gliders.
* The Influences of Gyorgy Benedek
* Electric Indoor Free Flight
* Low Aspect Ratio F1As
* Mini-Vintage Models
* Current State of F1D
* Turbulators and Invigorators
* Measuring Rubber Density
* Buy or Build?
* Better Shell Mouldings
* Getting More out of Rubber
* Propeller Efficiency
These books are available now and can be ordered directly from NFFS
Publications for $25.00 plus postage of $4.00. I still have several copies
of the
2004 FF Forum available on a first come, first served basis. These are also
available at $25.00 each. If you want both books, they can be shipped at 2 for
$4.00 anywhere in the US. Foreign shipping is usually $9.00.
Send to NFFS Publications Services, PO Box 1775, Albany, OR 97321.
Contact via email at
Zaic
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Indeed Norm We have. Very well stated. Zaic will never be replaced,
unfortuneately.
Franc Zaic
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Those with larger mailing lists might want to pass this on.
Another passing of a great one. I spent more time pondering Frank's books
than he did writing them!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Slobodan Midic"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:17 AM
Subject: [xfoil] Franc Zaic
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dr. Julio Quevedo
> To: FAI - Max Bishop ; A.W. Greenfield
> ; Dave Brown
> Cc: Delegates List CIAM ; Dick Bertrand
>
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 5:51 AM
> Subject: [ciam-com-l] Fw: Frank Zaic
>
>
> Dear friends:
> It is with deep sorrow that I inform you that Frank Zaic, recipient of a
FAI
> Gold Medal Award for his
> enormous contributions to the advancement of model aviation, at the
request
> of the Academy of
> Model Aeronautics (AMA) from the United States, died yesterday, at age 92.
> He was born in Yugoslavia August 1, 1912. He received N.A.A. license 149
> (the NAC of the USA)
> on June 9, 1933, and the license was signed by Orville Wright. He married
> Carmen, a citizen of
> Guatemala, about 55 years ago. In his old age he moved to Guatemala, where
> he enjoyed the loving
> care of all the menbers of Carmen's family. The funeral was held today.
>
> Any condolences to Carmen can be sent to my e-mail address, and I will
pass
> them to her.
>
> Sincerely
> Dr. Julio Quevedo E.
> Secretary - Treasurer
> Asociación Guatemalteca de Deportes Aéreos
> A. G. D. A.
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>
NATS Help...
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Hi all....
Because of unforeseen circumstances, I have lost the F1C and F1A event director
s for the NATS. So, I am looking for a couple of individuals that would be will
ing to run these two events. It takes a "special" person to run these events (y
a got to be able to handle Gutai!!) and am going to my FAI friends....
Also, congrats to the USA Team. Looks like the juniors opened the door and the
big boys walked on thru.....
If you can help, contact me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or 262-628-4296.....
John Lorbiecki
Re: Model
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Very disappointed with the Chicago design Ralph sent you as published.
Looks nothing like my airplane that I swear was a design of the same
club The Chicago Prop Nutz. More disappointing is that it looks like my
archrival Don Alberts' SWAT. We flew together when I was in the Army in
ElPaso,Texas in ' 54. He designed the SWAT much later. He was a great
ffer but a spoiled brat at the time. About 16-17, I was 21. Very hard to
get along with for me anyway. But maybe it was me. Have not met too many
ffers that fit that description though. Is he still around. I know his
older mentor buddy Jim Taylor recently died.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Model
Ed,
Go to the NFFS website and download the Nostalgia Design Approval
Form. Fill it out and send it to me with a dated full size plan. The big
thing is to find dated photos for proof that the plane was designed and
flown before January 1957. Magazine and newspaper articles are fine too.
Keith Fulmer
F1J for sale
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Hi Roger,
Would you like to publish the next ad:
"F1J for sale
Covered wing + stab by Stoev.
fuselage + parts + engine by Maximov."
I can send pictures of the model.
Itay Levi,
Israel
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World Champ Results and May 28-29 and June 11-12 Contests at Wawayanda
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Fellow Free Flighters,
This week in Argentina the US F1B Wakefield team (Morrell, Tymchek, and
Andriukov) has finished as the World Champion team, while in F1A Glider
former Glastonbury Connecticut resident Mike McKeever finishes as the
individual World Champion. Congratulations to Mike, Roger, Bob, and Alex!
Look to www.argentina2005.com for updates on the F1B flyoffs and the F1C
results as their flying continues.
Closer to home, this weekend (Saturday and Sunday) is our Skyscraper
Challenge at Barron Field in New York, an America's Cup and National Cup
contest with a wide range of events in FAI, AMA, NFFS, FAC, and some SAM.
Details are given below. The weather looks good: pleasant temperatures,
light wind, only occasional showers.
In addition to this May 28-29 meet we call your attention also to the
June 11-12 Wilber and Orville Contest at Barron Field. CD Art Ellis tells
me that the W&O, which he runs with help from Connecticut Juniors from their
Eli Whitney Museum based-club, has all the same FAI, AMA, NFFS, and SAM
events as our gathering this weekend (except they won't have any official
FAC events at their June meet this time). The W&O is for all age groups.
Jim Parker (who also maxed out in F1A at the World Champs this week) asked
me to get the word out that the W&O contest is an America's Cup Plus contest,
meaning that it counts just as much as America's Cup contests for Junior Team
Selection purposes.
Come participate this weekend and in a couple of weeks!
For other Barron Field contests this year check out
www.brooklynskyscrapers.org
Thermals,
Andrew Barron
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SKYSCRAPERS CHALLENGE
America's Cup and National Cup
FAI, AMA, Nostalgia, SAM, FAC
May 28-29, 2005
Barron, Ford, and Shuback Fields
Wawayanda, New York
FAI EVENTS:
Saturday May 28:
F1G (small rubber), F1H (small glider), F1J (small power).
120 second maxes. America's Cup Competition
Round 1: 9:30-11:00am
Round 2: 10:30-12:00
Round 3: 11:30- 1:00
Round 4: 12:30- 2:00pm
Round 5: 1:30- 3:00pm
Flyoffs: 3:15pm --
Mini-FAI Awards at end of rounds for events complete at that time.
FAI events: F1A (glider), F1B (wakefield), F1C/P* (power), plus F1Q*.
America's Cup competition
Sunday Morning May 29:
Round 1: 7:00- 8:30am Max 240 sec (weather permitting)
Round 2: 8:00- 9:30am Max 180 sec
Round 3: 9:00-10:30am Max TBA
Round 4: 10:00-11:30am
Round 5: 11:00-12:30pm
Round 6: 12:00-1:30pm
Round 7: 1:00-2:30pm
*Note that F1P and F1Q will fly 7 rounds alonside F1A/B/C, with same max.
F1P motor run will be 10 seconds, weather permitting.
F1Q is the new FAI electric free flight event (not yet America's Cup)
FAI director: Aram Schlosberg (718) 479-0478
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Assistant FAI Director: Andrew Barron or Art Ellis
FAI fliers enter at SkyScraper table before first flight.
Turn in scores between each flight (at the table or to an
FAI CD at the flight line.)
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AMA, NFFS, AND SAM EVENTS
National Cup Competition: (Note, all junior national cup events
are included as separate sanctioned events, and results will be
reported as such. Likewise for the various classic and nostalgia open
events. The event combinations shown below are for local award purposes.)
Saturday May 28: 9am--5:00pm. [Awards at 5:00pm.]
Hand Launch Glider, 1/2A Gas, ABC Classic, ABC Nostalgia, Mulvihill,
AB Electric, Classic Towline.
Nostalgia Wake/Rubber and SAM Old-time Rubber (combined).
Early Sunday:
Dawn Unlimited (Gather with CDs at 6:45am on field for ground rules).
Launch Window 7:00-7:30am.
Sunday May 29: 8am to 3:30pm. [Awards at 3:30pm.]
Catapult Glider, 1/2 A Classic, 1/2 A Nostalgia, P-30 Rubber,
Pee-Wee 30 Power.
SAM Old Time Gas (all SAM Gas classes combined).
AMA and NFFS Contest Director:
Thomas Fennell (437 North Delaware Ave, Lindenhurst, NY 11757-3410)
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SAM Consultant:
John Stott 203-426-5190, Mal MacLean 631-499-7917, or Al Vollmer.
Open fliers pay $25 ($10 field use fee, plus $15 entry which
covers unlimited number of AMA, NOS, SAM, and FAI events).
Juniors and Seniors pay $15 total ($10 field use plus $5 entry).
Awards:
One wood plaque per sufficiently high finishing contestant.
Labeled plates which adhere to the plaque are awarded
for each finish in the top three in an event,
and to best finishing Junior or Senior in each event flown.
Bryton Barron trophy for best junior performance by a model
of the junior's own construction.
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FLYING ACES EVENTS (Sponsored by the Glastonbury modelers):
Saturday May 28: (9am-5pm)
Peanut Scale (GHQ Scoring),
Embryo,
WW I Mass Launch,
Golden Age Civilian,
No-Cal Scale,
Jumbo-Giant Scale Combined
Scale Judging Saturday. Flights can be made either day.
Sunday May 29: (9am-3pm)
FAC Scale
Dime Scale (bring your plans)
WW II Mass Launch,
Thompson-Greve Mass Launch
O.T. Gas Replica
Flying Horde
FAC Event Director:
Ed Pelatowski (5 Belleview Ter., Ansonia, Conn. 06401
Phone 203-735-9494
Show AMA Membership, sign the Event Participation List, and provide
$10 field use fee (which covers both days).
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The field is on Orange County Route 12, in Wawayanda, six miles
south of Route 17M near Middletown, NY. Nearby airports include
Newburg, NY (30 min from field) or White Plains, NY; Hartford, CT;
LaGuardia, NY; Albany, NY; Newark, NJ; or Wilks-Barre-Scranton, PA
(all of which are less than 2 hours from the field).
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MOTORIZED VEHICHLES: Cars permitted on farm roads, motorcycles on
Dean Ford Grass and at edge of each commercial strip of Barron Field
sod (within 3 or 4 feet of ditch, if ground is firm enough).
No motorized vehicles on the foot bridges. No motorized vehicles
in the corn fields and no motorized vehicles on the Lois Ford
fields and paths to the southwest.
Golf carts are permitted anywhere on commercial sod or
farm roads or grass areas, but not on foot bridges.
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DIRECTIONS:
On Mapquest website, check Gardnersville and Pine Island, NY.
Field is open space between those two points.
*From New York city, take I-87 to Highway 17 to exit 123 (labeled
Middletown), west on 17M for 3.5 miles, to Orange County Route 12
(at the New Hampton, Town of Wawayanda sign), then turn left,
heading south 6.3 miles. After Gardnersville Road, the Barron
and Ford fields are on the left at the Grain Silo.
[This takes about one hour from the Tappan Zee bridge.]
*From New England and from upper New York, take I-84 to exit 3,
Rt. 17M, go east 1.5 miles, then south (right) on County. Rt. 12
for 6.3 miles. Field is on the left. [About thirty minutes from
Newburg.]
*From Western New York take Route 17 to I-84, south 3 miles to
exit 3, Route 17M, go east 1.5 miles, then south on County. Rt. 12
for 6.3 miles. Field is on the left.
*From Pennsylvania and points south, take I-84 to exit 2, turn left
off the ramp and then go one mile to the northeast on Route 6, turn
right at the sign pointing toward Pine Island (onto County Route 1),
go six miles east on County Route 1 (through Westtown), then veer
left at the sign for New Hampton onto County Route 12. Go one mile
north on County Route 12. The field is on the right at the Grain
Silo.
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Check the following web site for other relevant matters.
http://www.brooklynskyscrapers.org
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CAMPING ON FIELD IS ENCOURAGED
Tents on soft grass, or sleep in one of the two sheds, or
camp in the vehicle of your choice.
HOTELS:
In approximate order of distance from field:
Days Inn on 17M in Middletown, exit 3, east, off I-84.
845-374-2411. Price $70-80. Good quality. Closest to the field.
Global Budget Inn of America on 17M, also exit 3 off I-84.
845-374-3020. Price approximately $70.
Credit card does not guarantee room with late arrival.
Super 8 at exit 120 off Highway 17 (exit 4, west, off I-84).
845-692-5828. Price around $70-80.
Middletown Motel on Rt. 211, exit 120 off HWY 17 (exit 4W, I-84).
845-342-2535. Price around $70-80.
Howard Johnsons, Rt. 211, exit 120 off HWY 17 (exit 4W, I-84).
845-342-5822. Price around $80-90.
Chateau Hathorn, where Rt. 1A ends at Rt. 94, Warwick.
About 10 miles east of field (drive through Pine Island on
Rt. 1A and continue to Warwick). 845-986-6099
www.chateauharthorn.com Price $115 inc. tax, Jacusi in each room.
Fancy B&B. Same price but nicer than Holiday or Hampton.
Holiday Inn at exit 4, east, off I-84, exit 122 off Highway 17.
845-343-1474. Price around $110-125.
Hampton Inn at exit 4, east, off I-84, exit 122 off Highway 17.
845-343-3400. Price around $115-126.
Courtyard Marriot at exit 4, east, off I-84, exit 122 off HW 17.
845-695-0606. Price around $139.
Super 8, exit 5 off I-84. 13 miles northeast of Middletown.
Several Hotels at exit 6 off I-84, Route 17K.
18 miles northeast of Middeltown. Including:
Clarion, Howard Johnson, Courtyard Marriot, Days Inn,
Comfort Inn.
There are also several Hotels at exit 1 off I-84 to the
southwest (Port Jervis) about 30 minutes from the field.
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walston retreval system
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roger.
i have a walston retreval system for sale.
this uses three batterys.
has a new antenna and is in perfect condition.
thx don.
Re: Top Banana Plans
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Thanks Terry,
I sent this to Tony. Apparently his plan states the design as 1951 but
that is not sufficient. The kit or publication date governs. Has anyone
we know of proof of purchase of the kit or a published picture or
drawing that is dated 1951. Another possibility is that the design date
on the drawing is actually the kit date also. Can Jim Rhoades or Jay
Jackson answer these questions? Lets try to help this poor guy out.
Thank God Lew Mahieu is still around and has answered my Zeek questions.
And thanks to all you guys that came up with drawings of the beloved
Zeek. Has anyone else named their aircraft design after a girlfriend?
Ed Mate
From: Terry Thorkildsen
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Cc: Jim Rhoades
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:37 PM
Subject: Top Banana Plans
Hi Ed,
Read in the scat newsletter where Tony is trying to
get ahold of Jay Jackson for info on Kitting or
advertisement of the Top Banana to see if it is legal
for vintage in england(i.e. before 1951 kitted or
such)
I know some of them were kitted but don't know when.
Jays phone number is (801) 485-0314
Jim Rhoades who is a member of the same club and a
good friend of Jay Jackson may be able to help or may
be able to get the info you need. I have copied him
on this email.
Would have sent this directly to Tony but didn't see
his email address in the Scat newsletter.
thermals,
terry Thorkildsen
Re: Zeeks
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Hi Bill,
Thanks! Yes I have over a dozen different plans of Zeeks in my computer
made mostly from kit plans. Some from Murf's Cronicles, but he was off
on dimensions. I have verified the discrepencys. As I understand it for
the limy's just a plan doesn't work. It must be the original kit or
publication date. A Pond plan will not suffice unless he verifies the
original date of the source. I think he, Tony Shepherd, is ok on the
Zeek now with what I gave him but now the problem is with the Top
Banana. He has a half A Banana that at this point he can't fly in
competition. Ed Mate
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 7:26 AM
Subject: Zeeks
Hi Ed,
I think that the "John Pond" plans, sold by AMA will be from the
original kits. There are many CAD plans available which are not faithful
copies.
Bill Lovins (Denver)
Haddock Bobtail
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Subject : Re: SCAT Electrinic Nes 22 May 2005 issue 948 - Embalse Hotel 4
GENTLEMEN: Perhaps one of your readers can help me- I've had no luck with the
A.M.A or S.A.M.: In 1981 I submitted a model to the late (and great) John Pond
for SAM approval; the HALLOCK 'BOBTAIL', a tailless free flight design powered
by a Phantom '.27'.
This airplane, designed by Bruce K. Hallock, then of Medina, Oh, won the
original design event at the 1939 Scripps-Howard Nationals. The model was
approved by SAM as an 'Old Timer', but I don't think any have been built and
flown in any SAM event.
One of Mr. Hallock's sons is writing a book about his father's modeling days
as a member of the old CLEVELAND 'BALSA BUTCHERS', and is searching for any
books or magazine issues that covered the 1939 contest, especially the
original design event. We know that a newsreel was made of the contest,
probably by the SCRIPPS-HOWARD crew, but have no idea how to get a copy.
Also,
were the AMA Nationals and Scripps-Howard Nats the same contest, or were
the different events?
Thank you for your assistance in our search, and HAPPY FLYING!
John G. Dana, Austin, Texas.
Drawing 3 views
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Background: WW I Aero/Skyways magazine sells a US $100 program on disk for
DOS that can help draw a 3 view from a photograph. The program requires
digitizing many points from the photo and it looks like a digitizing tablet mig
ht work
best. I understand it's a tedious process, but is offered as a solution for
drawings that do not now exist.
Last week, Hometime, a PBS home improvement show, displayed a new way to
measure for countertops. Instead of making a scrap wood template, they placed
small, specially marked, circular disks on key points like corners of the base
framework, and then photographed the layout with a digital camera. Back at the
office, the photos are used to create drawings and then through CAD/CAM, make
the countertops. The product Corian-stuff countertop fit exactly where it shoul
d
- most impressive! I'm wondering if this process lends itself to making 3
views, even tho the home-oriented application is only working in 2 dimensions.
Actually, when you think about it, the view from the camera is looking at a 3
dim picture. Anyone have any specifics on a process like this?
Just an hour ago, I though about writing this note and knowing that Carlo
Godel would respond! We're going to miss him. I had the pleasure of knowing him
for a few hours each year at the January SW Regionals contest at Eloy, Arizona.
Carlo would come to the contest to fly Rapier models - some constructed on
the spot! He was a 'good guy' !
AL
2005 Southwest Regionals contest web report: www.aalmps.com/2005swr.htm
A. A. Lidberg model plan service
http://www.aalmps.com/
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Sam Casey
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Roger,
I am trying to reach a gentleman named Sam Casey. I believe that
He lives in Florida. Does anyone know him?
Ralph
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619-766-4650
Jim Bradley Medical Update
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Roger,
Please post.
I would like to thank all of the you who sent get well cards, letters,
E-mails, or called me while I was in the Hospital recently. It was very encour
aging
to me each night when my wife would bring be a handful of cards and E-mail.
We are indeed a small but close nit community.
I was released from the hospital last Friday, May 13th, after a 3 1/2 week
stay to treat an internal infection which also led to having a heart valve
replace. I am now home and on the road to recovery. It is going to be a slowe
r
recovery that I had hoped for and I likely will not be fully up to fly F1B's
again till late July or August. I am really looking forward to getting back to
flying and attending contest again, but in the meantime it will give me a
chance to work on my F1B's at home.
Once again I am very grateful to for all you for the interest shown to me
while I was in the hospital. You kindness was really appreciated.
Jim Bradley
Old F1A Wings wanted
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If anyone has a set of F1-A wings for sale, please let us know. They don't
have to be up-to-date-competitive, or anything like that. They can be
covered or not, and they can be in a repairable state. What got ol' Tom
Protheroe, & I, to thinking about this is; we've got to the point where
towing & chasing, etc., is pretty much out of the realm of what we can
handle, but we still enjoy seeing a model high in a thermal. Hence we are
flying electric motor-gliders.
We used to compete in an annual cross-country distant event, out in Baker,
CA,
and the last one that ran had an electric event, for which I adapted a F1-B
rig.
Owing to the wind on the day of the event, I only made 32.5 miles. Anyway I
still have the model, (flew it today), but it gets a little hard to see, and
it occurred to us that an F1-A version might show up a little better.
As usual, I told you mare than you wanted to know, but if you've got some
old, cob-web magnet wings, let us know!
Roger Grigsby.
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Roger Morrell
