SEN 906 - 6 Oct 2004

SCAT Electronic news 6 October 2004 issue 906


Table of Contents
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30th. CALIFORNIA FAI INVITATIONAL - Livotto
San Valeer's upcoming Nostalgia Annual - Thorkildsen
The National Cup Rules - Lorbiecki
Super Sport - Schroedter
F1B and 30 gram motors - King

30th. CALIFORNIA FAI INVITATIONAL
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October 2nd. And 3rd. 2004

F1A

1 COUSSENS, T. 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 540 339 2889
2 COWLEY, M. 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 540 302 2852
3 COOPER, J. 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 540 224 2774
4 VAN NEST, B. 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 406 1996
5 PARKER, J. 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 233 1823
6 BROCKS, P. 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 286 1576
7 BARRON, A. 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 105 1395
8 HINES, L. 210 180 180 180 168 180 180 1278
9 SMITH, N. 210 180 180 180 164 180 180 1274
10 DIEZ, H. 182 180 180 180 180 180 180 1262
11 ZINK, D. 210 180 180 180 180 147 180 1257
12 PARKER, D. 210 180 180 128 180 180 180 1238
13 STAMOV, V. 210 125 180 180 180 180 180 1235
14 BESTCHASNY, V. 210 180 123 180 180 180 180 1233
15 BUSNELLI, E. 151 180 180 180 180 180 180 1231
16 SIFLEET, R. 210 180 180 180 116 180 180 1226
17 BAUER, K. 210 112 180 180 180 180 180 1222
18 TZVETKOV, T. 186 180 180 127 180 180 180 1213
19 LIMBERGER, R. 210 180 180 180 180 93 180 1203
20 McKEEVER, M. 210 180 180 147 112 180 180 1189
21 BRUN, P. 210 180 180 180 78 180 180 1188
22 CUSICK, C. 198 174 80 180 180 180 180 1172
23 WEILER, R. 167 180 180 180 180 91 180 1158
24 TECRICK, L. 152 180 123 180 119 180 158 1092
25 ALLNUTT, P. 210 180 180 180 180 49DNF 979
26 MARKOS, C. 75 85 63 180 180 180 180 943
27 COUSSENS, B. 210 180 180 136 180DNF DNF 886
28 PROTHEROE, D. 66 177 143 180 180 111DNF 857

F1B

1 JENSEN, B. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 368 2408
2 BIEDRON, R. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 308 2348
3 EMERY, J. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 400 2020
4 BRADLEY, J. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 311 1931
5 SCHROEDTER, M. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 231 1551
6 STEPANCHUK, S. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 178 1498
7 BLAZHEVYCH, Y. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 114 1434
8 VANLANDINGHAM,E. 240 180 180 180 162 180 180 1302
9 MULLIGAM, M. 240 180 180 180 180 172 166 1298
10 IOERGER, T. 240 180 170 180 180 180 166 1296
11 PRATT, J. 234 180 180 180 172 180 153 1279
12 ROHRKE, R. 240 180 180 180 127 180 180 1267
13 PISERHIO, B. 240 180 167 138 180 180 180 1265
14 BATIUK, G. 240 180 180 180 180 120 180 1260
15 SCHROEDTER, J. 230 180 180 180 129 180 180 1259
16 RAYMOND, A. 240 180 180 180 180 180 116 1256
17 SCHEMAN, P (Jr) 240 180 180 180 113 180 180 1253
18 JONES, C. 172 180 180 172 180 180 180 1244
19 TYMCHECK, B. 240 180 180 103 180 180 180 1243
20 NELSON, E. 240 180 180 143 180 131 180 1234
21 SCHROEDTER, G. 240 91 180 180 152 180 180 1203
22 CROWLEY, P. 240 169 152 96 180 180 180 1197
23 FELIX, R. 180 180 180 136 119 180 180 1155
24 MORRELL, R. 240 180 125 147 93 179 180 1144
25 CLAPP, J. 165 180 108 180 180 180 135 1128
26 MALKING, J. 105 180 180 180 180 180 88 1093
27 NORVALL, C. 240 180 154 177 180 143DNF 1074
28 ANDRIUKOV, A. 240 180 180 180 163DNF DNF 943

F1C

1 GUTAI, B. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 488 2528
2 CHESSON, D. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 367 2407
3 MORRIS, G. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 307 2347
4 SERVAITES, B. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 137 2177
5 ARCHER, R. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 420 2040
6 ROBNERTS, M. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 1620
7 POTI, N. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 1620
8 SHIRLEY, D. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 284 1604
9 MENANO, G. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 258 1578
10 CARROLL, E. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 254 1574
11 McBURNET, R. 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 160 1480
12 PARKER, F. 238 180 180 180 180 180 180 1318
13 SIMPSON, R. 240 180 180 180 176 180 180 1316
14 HAPPERSETT, K. 240 180 180 150 180 180 180 1290
15 KERGER, T. 240 180 180 134 180 180 180 1274
16 GEWAIN, M. 240 180 180 180 180 180 122 1262
17 VERBITSKY, E. 240 180 180 180 180 180 106 1246
18 JOYCE, D. 240 180 148 180 132 180 180 1240
19 WARREN, J. 240 180 180 180 180DNF DNF 960
20 JOHANNES, D. 240 180 180 0 180DNF 180 960
21 KIRILENKO, A. 240 180 180 180 63DNF DNF 843
22 PERKINS, D. 240 180 180 180 0DNF DNF 780
23 OLIVER, K. 240 180 160DNF DNF DNF DNF 580

F1H

1 McKEEVER, M. 180 120 120 120 120 300 960
2 BESCHASNY, V. 180 120 120 120 120 288 948
3 STAMOV, V. 180 120 120 120 120 230 890
4 ALLNUTT, P. 175 120 120 120 120 655
5 SIFLEET, R. 164 120 120 120 120 644
6 VAN NEST, B. 180 120 120 120 68 608
7 COOPER, J. 121 110 120 120 120 591
8 NORTON, B. 107 120 120 120 120 587
9 SMITH, N. 166 73 85 120 90 534
10 CUSICK, C. 146 120 120 120ATT 506
11 MARKOS, C. 135 120 120 120ATT 495
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F1G

1 JONES, C. 180 120 120 120 120 300 420 540 1920
2 IOERGER, T. 180 120 120 120 120 300 420 201 1581
3 CLAPP, J. 180 120 120 120 120 300 420 144 1524
4 SCHROEDTER, J. 180 120 120 120 120 300 420 129 1509
5 STEFANCHUK, S. 180 120 120 120 120 300 409 1369
6 RAYMOND, A. 180 120 120 120 120 300 114 1074
7 SCHROEDTER, G. 180 120 120 120 120 300 11 971
8 SCHROEDTER, M. 180 120 120 120 120 279 939
9 PRATT, J. 180 120 120 120 120 226 886
10 BROCKS, P. 180 120 120 120 120 198 858
11 COLE, H. 180 120 120 120 120 DNF 660
12 VANLANDINGHAM, E. 180 120 120 112 120 652
13 EMERY, J. 180 120 120 120 109 649
14 ODELL, T. 173 120 120 115 120 648
15 DORSETT, C. 173 120 79 120 120 612
16 VAN NEST, B. 180 120 63 101 100 564
17 NORVALL, L. 180 84DNF DNF DNF 264
18 CROWLEY, P 180 33 DNFDNF DNF 213

F1J

1 SHIRLEY, D. 180 120 120 120 120 244 904
2 GUTAI, B. 180 120 120 120 120 204 864
3 POTI, N. 180 120 120 120 120 196 856
4 ROBERTS, M. 180 120 120 120 120 183 843
5 PARKER, F. 180 120 120 120 120 174 834
6 SERVAITES, B. DNF 120 120 120 120 480
7 OLIVER, K. 180 120DNF DNF DNF 300
8 HAPPERSETT, K. 180 112DNF DNF DNF 292



San Valeer's upcoming Nostalgia Annual
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Hi Roger,

Hope you had as much fun at the FF champs as I did.
What a great weekend for weather. I think that was
about the best I have ever seen it at Lost Hills.

Just want to invite your readers to the San Valeer's
nostalgia annual on Oct 16 & 17th at the Taft flying
field for a slower pace contest. We are giving away
some great prizes as usual.

For any one that wants a fler they can contact me and
I will email them one.

One is also attached to this email.

Thermals,

Terry Thorkildsen



SAN VALEERS 17th ALL NOSTALGIA ANNUAL
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TAFT, CALIFORNIA* OCTOBER 16-17, 2004
C.D. Terry Thorkildsen 805/495-6135; Co C.D. Tom Laird 310/544-7606
CAT 3– 2 MIN. MAX. THIS IS A NFFS NATIONAL CUP CONTEST
SATURDAY SUNDAY BOTH DAYS
8:15AM - 5PM 8:15AM - 3PM
1/4 A NOSTALGIA A NOSTALGIA NOSTALGIA CABIN combined
Small .001-.15 Large .16-.65
Must Have Front Windshield
1/2 A NOSTALGIA B NOSTALGIA 1 DESIGN EVENT:
1/2A Zero with legal Nostalgia
Eng.

C NOSTALGIA 1/2 A EARLY BIRD NOST RUBBER/WAKEFIELD

NOSTALGIA GLIDER (see prize comments below) (A1/A2) Proxy Towing OK

NIGHT NOSTALGIA GAS
(Flight limits & flight hours will be announced on field weather
permitting (calm enough) by CD)

DAWN PATROL HOURS:
7AM - 8:15AM 7AM - 8:15AM
(Small Gas .001-051/ (Small Gas .001-051/
Large Gas .052-.65) Large Gas .052-.65)
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Frisco Kidde kit & Max III .35 given for winner of event with highest no of entries
EVENT PRIZES WILL BE: MERCHANDISE * ENGINES*KITS*BALSA*ETC.
ALL MODELS CHECKED AND WEIGHED LESS FUEL, BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT
(Except 1/4 A & 1/2 A)

DAWN PATROL ENTRY FEE $1.00 PER FLIGHT. Winner is highest 2 flight total. Two models
per class permitted but only 1 model in air on official flight allowed. Official
flight is timed to the ground before another official flight can be scored. Flights
must be posted after each official flight. Failure to post an official flight will
negate all succeeding flights.

ONE DESIGN EVENT PRIZES & prizes if using Lil Dip, Ghost, or Jetstream in A-1: $45 FOR
1ST, $30 FOR 2ND, $15 FOR 3rd

NOSTALGIA RUBBER: Designs from 1943-1956, 3 flights 2 min max and plus 1 min on each
flyoff flight

ENGINE RUNS ALL EVENTS & 1 DESIGN: First 3 Flights 9 Seconds Hand Launch,
all Flyoff Flights will be 6 Seconds Hand Launch, per NFFS Rulebook No. 8
for CAT 3. DAWN PATROL no max, timed to the ground.

NFFS RULES LIST NO. 8. BUILDER OF THE MODEL RULES APPLY. NO RE-ENTRY.
Entry fees: Registration $5.00, SR. & OPEN: $5.00 per event,
Jr’s: $1.00 All EVENTS ARE JSO










The National Cup Rules
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OK, how about this. You have 15 seconds total. If you can start your engine in
1 second and launch in 1 second, you get a 13 second engine run. I can now see
our F1J at 10,000 feet!

Nah, we have a hard enough time getting it trimmed for 7 seconds........

John Lorbiecki





Super Sport
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Bill Pudney:

FYI: I just received a call from my son Martin. He is up at Lost Hills
preparing for the Team Finals competition. At a few minutes before 8
a.m. he had a flight that DT'd at 5:30. He said the model may have done
6 minutes had it glided in. He was using the April '04 batch of Super
Sport! The model was the latest from Igor Vivchar.

I personally have found both that batch and the Oct.'03 batch to be
fully competitive.

George Schroedter



F1B and 30 gram motors
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F1B and 30 gram motors - Pudney

Good point Bill, I haven't tried Tan super sprot yet (and I don't have
stores of Tan 2 stored either)
I also felt the 30gm rule was a bit of a knee jerk reaction. I will stick my
neck out and say I think we should go back to maybe 35gms. I also miss the
sight of the 40gm models but realise that, with best Tan 2, they were rather
too good for our flying fields etc. I rather expect the rules will never be
changed back, but I would like to see it happen. I think a strong point in
favour of it is the fact that F1B performance reached a plateau about five plus

years ago and there is not much chance of any really new developments with the

long standing static rules. Who else, if anyone agrees with say a return to
35gms?



Peter King




.....................
Roger Morrell