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SCAT Electronic News 2 December 2002 issue 761
Table of Conetents
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French FF Team for 2003: - Boutillier
Hollowing Section - Dent
Skyscraper Annual, Results for FAI, AMA, and Nostalgia - Barron
Re: Fly power alert! - Jahnke
Flypower... A question about power boosting substances....
disgusted with rubber and flies and switching to Power ... looking for an engine
Southwest Regionals 2003 - Lidberg
AZFFC November 30th - Dec 1st - Nystedt
Thanks
French FF Team for 2003:
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Good morning Roger,
1) World Champs:
F1A Frederic DUJARDIN, Alain DELASSUS, Francois MOREAU
F1B J.Claude CHENEAU, Guy BUISSON, Serge TEDESCHI
F1C Lucien BRAIRE, Gauthier BRIERE, Laurent POUYADOU
Team Manager Bernard BOUTILLIER
Coach not yet appointed
2) Junior Eurochamps:
F1A Edgar BERNARD, Aurelien LECOMTE, Samuel CESBRON
F1B Benjamin MARQUOIS, Lea MARQUOIS, Stephen JALLET
Team Manager & Coach not yet appointed
The selection contest was scheduled on two days with 14 flights.
We flew on saturday in strong wind. The second day was cancelled
due to wind over 12m/s
[what no F1P or F1J ? ]
Hollowing Section
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Can anyone supply the coords of the "Hollowing" section? The model
was profiled in the NFFS Sympo #34 (2001). I can't find the section
referred to (SKBFW) and blowing up the drawing produces a very
inaccurate ragged line. At least two flying wing enthusiasts in
England would be very grateful!
Dave Dent
Skyscraper Annual, Results for FAI, AMA, and Nostalgia
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The Skyscraper Annual at Barron Field, Wawayanda, New York,
October 19-20, 2002 was again well attended, with participants
in FAI, AMA, Nostalgia, FAC, and Oldtimer. Here I give the
results for FAI, AMA, and Nostalgia events. Both Saturday
and Sunday mornings were delightfully calm and produced some
good performances. Saturday at 10:30am a storm came through
with extreme winds the rest of that day, such that the
completion of Saturday's events was moved to Sunday the 20th.
Picking thermals Sunday afternoon proved to be a special
challenge as they would come through very rapidly with a
very brief window of opportunity to catch the thermals that
would take the planes past the tree-line to the second sod
farm on the other side.
In F1A and F1B the best at handling the conditions were Tzvetan
Tzvetkov and Charlie Jones, respectively, with Bob Sifleet and
(FAI Junior) Sarah Radziunas right behind. Dick Wood was on
course for another fine performance, though his efforts were
cut short by having flights that put both his top models far
off field onto distant black dirt farm fields (made soft by
recent rains). The good news for him is that he found and
retrieved both. Aram Schlossberg had an out-of-sight last
flight (failed DT), which he was fortunate to retrieve many
miles down wind thanks a search by car for the radio-location
signal.
Tom Ioerger and Bob Sifleet won the F1G and F1H mini-events
with fine performances to strengthen their America Cup
positions.
Tom Jones came from Ohio (with his brother Charlie) and
swept the Hand Launch and Catapult events, against some
fine New England competition, strengthening his position in
the National Cup.
In the gas events, Tom Kerr, Bob Geyer, Gene Pailet and Mike
Cook flew especially well.
In AMA rubber events, Dick Ivers showed his P-30 prowess, while
in Mulvihill, yours truely picked up his first rubber win.
Some new families came from Connecticut, as part of Art Ellis'
program at the Eli Whitney Museum, to their first big contest
in support of the efforts by new juniors Richard Swartwout,
Oliver Cai, Kyle Lindell, and Marian Whitney,
while continuing program members Josh Revkin, Nathan Coste,
Ben Thompson, Sarah Radziunas, as well as the Barron and
Rousseau kids, continued to hone their skills.
Thermals!
Andrew Barron
F1A (Glider) MAX 180+60 180 180 180 180 180 180 Total
1. Tzvetan Tzvetkov 180+60 180 180 151 180 180 180 1231
2. Bob Sifleet 180+60 180 180 180 123 180 132 1155
3. Andrew Barron 180+60 180 167 169 125 180 93 1094
4. Omer Erguner 180+28 180 180 119 105 180 64 1044
5. Aram Schlossberg 180+23 180 0 180 50 180 180 950
6. Igor Fradkin 180+ 7 174 67 150 92 146 91 900
7. Peter Barron (J) 180+36 180 180 123 121 80 0 864
8. Josh Revkin (J) 18 62 98 180 75 59 180 672
9. Nathan Coste (J) 107 60 16 57 38 180 56 514
10.Richard Swartwout (J) 0 95 51 61 108 60 80 455
11.Mathhew Gagliano 178 178
12.Dick Ivers 118 118
13.Ben Thomson (J) 0 0 57 57
F1B (Wakefield) MAX 180+60 180 180 180 180 180 180 Total
1. Charles Jones 180+60 180 180 158 180 176 180 1225
2. Sarah Radziunas (J) 180+35 180 180 128 150 131 180 1129
3. Dick Wood 178 180 170 176 180 884
4. Jerry McGlashan 180+32 180 180 143 683
5. Ron Felix 180+13 180 180 540
6. J Friebis 180+ 7 137 45 362
7. Dave Lacey 117 103 220
F1C (Power) MAX Total
1. Andrei Kirilenko 180+60 180 180 56 131 66 793
F1G (Small Rubber) MAX 120 120 105 120 120 Total
1. Tom Ioerger 120 120 105 120 120 585
2. Larry Pelatowski 120 120 85 120 120 565
3. Dick Ivers 120 92 105 120 120 557
4. Bob Hatschek 87 118 94 118 129 537
5. Dick Wood 120 83 93 120 120 536
6. Don Rousseau 100 120 105 102 90 517
7. Thomas Jones 106 113 105 324
8. Charlie Jones 110 111 221
9. Dave Lacey 70 74 69 213
F1H (Small Glider) MAX 120 120 105 120 120
1. Bob Sifleet 120 120 101 120 120 581
2. Vic Nippert 93 87 41 120 69 410
3. Ben Thomson (J) 120 81 105 67 0 373
4. Kyle Lindell (J) 46 48 37 44 43 218
5. Rich Ivers 88 67 155
6. Jean Pailet 33 41 74
7. Marian Whitney (J) 46 46
F1J (Small Power) MAX 120 120 105 120 120 Flyoff Total
1. Tom Kerr 120 120 105 120 120 300 885
2. Jean Pailet 120 120 105 120 120 242 827
3. Keiichi Kibiki 120 0 105 0 120 345
Hand Launch Glider Total
1. Thomas Jones *79 42 46 *82 26 *50 211
2. Larry Pelatowski *47 2 *52 *56 24 28 155
3. Victor Gagliano 24 *53 *57 25 *31 25 141
4. Eddie Pelatowski 30 *49 38 *40 *49 30 138
5. Charles Jones 6 *22 14 *31 13 *22 75
6. Peter Barron (J.1) *24 19 20 *22 *26 12 72
7. Tim Rousseau (J.2) 17 *31 15 13 *18 *20 69
8. Marian Whitney(J.3) *12 *17 29
Catapult Glider Total
1. Thomas Jones 4 42 120 120 282
2. Al Volmer 51 120 35 31 29 23 206
3. Larry Pelatowski 49 37 79 24 45 24 173
4. Eddie Pelatowski 43 30 39 51 31 36 133
5. Charles Jones 29 16 86 131
6. Peter Barron (J.1) 26 18 18 20 64
7. Tom Kerr 26 26
P-30 (Rubber) Total
1. Dick Ivers 120 120 120 360
2. [Tie] Don Rousseau 53 83 98 234
2. [Tie] Matt Rousseau (J.1) 71 80 83 234
4. [Tie] Tim Rousseau (J.2) 59 48 67 174
4. [Tie] Michelle Barron (J.2) 73 53 49 174
6. Red Laufler 46 96 8 150
7. Larry Pelatowski 86 86
Mulvihill (Rubber) Total
1. Andrew Barron 120 120 240
2. Matthew Rousseau (J.1) 71 65 75 211
3. Timothy Barron (J.2) 43 76 67 186
4. [Tie] Michelle Barron (J.3) 44 48 24 116
4. [Tie] Oliver Cai (J.3) 36 26 54 116
ABC Classic Total
1. Bob Geyer 101 109 65 275
2. Dan Belieff 79 82 90 251
3. Alan Abriss 95 120 0 215
ABC Nostalgia Total
1. Bob Geyer 120 120 120 360
2. Bill Harris 96 120 54 270
proxy flown by Dan Belieff
1/2-A Classic Total
1. Tom Kerr 120 106 98 324
AMA 1/2-A Gas Total
1. Jean Pailet 120 120 110 340
AMA ABC Gas Total
1. Tom Kerr 120 120 30 270
Pee Wee 30
1. Mike Cook 14/120 13/120 13/120
2. Alan Abriss 11/36 15/79
Re: Fly power alert!
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Alert!!
The special sh-t used to feed high performance flies (a special US
government byproduct) has been taken off the civilian market. This is
apparently linked to the administartions decision to withhold 1% of pay
raises for civilian employees due to the current terrorist threat.
Efforts by the distributor, FAI Fly Supply (www.faiflysupply.com) to find,
another domestic supplier have (surprisingly) failed. Overseas suppliers
have been ruled out do to problems with high handling costs. Some of this
sh-t is already showing up on E-bay.
The US representative on the FAI rules making subcommittee has been alerted
and is proposing several rule changes. His concern is that young modelers
have not had a chance to collect flies of sufficient quality and qiantity as
those of us who have been collecting them for years.
The proposed rule changes include:
1. A reduction in fly weight to .3g (as proposed by Peter King).
2. A return to all balsa, non-auto surface fly powered models or "Nos-Fly".
3. Allow flies fed on dog poop only (hard to verify at the field).
The Brazilian representative is proposing a change to mosquito power
however, concerns by countries affected by the West Nile Virus are likely to
veto this proposal. There is also concern that those of use with an
extensive collection of flies will not be able to get rid of them.
Clearly this is the end of free fly-t as we know it. I for one have started
to fly "indoor butterfly" using a new sub-micro R/C unit.
Ross Jahnke
Flypower... A question about power boosting substances....
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I seem to recall that my father's story about Fly Powered
Aircraft included a bit of info about boosting output of the
powerplant. In the '20's or '30's, this was done by putting a
drop of Turpentine on the hindquarters of the powerplant. The
2k3 equivalent might result in use of metabolic steroids during
training and then methamphetemines. Therefore, I urge the AMA
and CIAM to be alert for such fly abuse and make haste with
rules and a thorough urine testing program. Thermals, Steve
disgusted with rubber and flies and switching to Power ... looking for an engine
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With my burning passion for F1B and Jimmy Allen now thoroughly squelched by
the daunting prospect of cutting rubber strips from old inner tubes I have
decided to give FAI Power a college try.
Please! Is there a financially distressed F1C flyer -- surfeited with
superfluous Stroker Galbreathed side port Nelsonian engines in top shape --
willing to part with one at a bargain rate so I can afford to see what all
the noise is about?
with a frozen smile of anticipation -- and syringe in hand -- I eagerly
await the needed solution to my desperate craving.
Billious Gieskieng, AKA This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. 1- 866 203 5026
(on my nickel... home mornings)
Southwest Regionals 2003
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Roger - please post this on SCAT newsletter:
Thanksgiving weekend is traditionally when people begin to call about the
Southwest Regionals, so it seems reasonable to put a reminder here.
53rd annual SWR: 18,19, 20 January 2003; Eloy, Arizona; 3 contests at the
same time/same site + a MECA Collecto.
-AMA/FAC/NFFS/SAM Free Flight 26 events [18&19, Saturday & Sunday] National
Cup
-FAI Free Flight 6 events [18&19] America's Cup
-SAM RC Old Timers 17 events [18,19&20]
-MECA Collecto [at Casa Grande, AZ on 18th]
See:
http://www.aalmps.com/swrintro.htm
for reports and pictures of recent SWRs and info on 2003, including event
listings, entry forms, contact info for each area, maps and places to stay.
AL
A. A. Lidberg model plan service
ff/rc kits and plans
www.aalmps.com
now with on-line ordering through PayPal
AZFFC November 30th - Dec 1st
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Round
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Totals
FIA
Mike McKeever 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 294 1554
Martyn Cowley 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 293 1553
Lee Hines 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1260
Don Zink 180 180 180 170 180 180 180 1250
Brian VanNest 180 134 180 180 179 180 180 1213
Peter Brocks 144 180 146 180 180 180 180 1190
Dean Clark 180 180 180 180 87 180 180 1167
Pierre Brun 180 180 162 180 102 180 180 1164
Tzvetan Tzvetko 116 158 180 180 118 180 180 1112
F1B
Jozef Kosciarz 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1260
Bob Tymchek 160 180 180 180 180 180 180 1240
Dick Wood 180 124 180 180 138 132 180 1114
Alan Peterson 102 50 180 180 158 180 180 1030
Marianna Myszka 5 139 180 140 180 180 180 1004
Elmer Nelson 0 180 180 180 DNF DNF DNF 540
FIC
Randy Archer 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 1260
F1G
Alan Peterson 120 120 120 120 120 290 890
Bob Tymchek 120 120 120 120 120 147 747
Dick Wood 120 120 120 120 119 599
Taylor Burrows 120 120 120 120 90 570
Alex Rogers 120 120 120 75 120 555
Peter Brocks 120 120 120 58 120 538
Willard Smitz 102 82 61 120 119 484
Elmer Nelson 112 119 120 DNF DNF 351
Dick Strang 110 DNF DNF DNF DNF 110
F1H
Martyn Cowley 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 300 1320
Mike McKeever 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 234 1254
Ryan Archer 120 120 120 120 120 180 240 73 1093
Lee Hines 120 120 120 120 120 180 140 920
Brian VanNest 120 120 120 120 120 178 778
F1J
No Entries
Thanks
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Thanks to Vasily Beschasny of Karkov and Loma Linda for his donation in
support of SEN
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Roger Morrell