SCAT Electronic News 17 Decemeber 2001 issue 657
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SCAT Electronic News 17 Decemeber 2001 issue 657
Table of Contents
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Aringer/Norton Index - Andresen
Bird sections - Ackery
Some F1E info and photo [or out with the Honda and in with the Mule] - Davis
rounds - Wilkinson
Re: F1B-Fins - Salzer
America Cup results - with individual placings
F F infusion - Shirley
2002 NFFS TMOY - Roberts
Prima 2001 - Woodhouse
Aringer/Norton Index
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Roger,
At first glance it would appear that the inequity in sportsman height as
defined by the Aringer/Norton index could be readily corrected by adding
0.01sec engine run for every foot of height that a sportsman gives up to his
competitor.
This overlooks another problem of launching too close to the deck. A couple
of WC's ago, Randy Archer destroyed his #1 model in practice, attributed to
the stab touching down during launch. Brokenspar came to the rescue,
providing a short platform.
This could be an equalizer for all events as the Aringer/Norton index
appeared to correlate in the other events at the WC.
If this comes up short in the CIAM, perhaps that proven method used to award
Scholarships should be employed, ie base the prize on financial need.
H
[Applogies to Gerhard whose message was "Stop the BS and and go and
fly" ]
Bird sections
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For those people interested in bird sections you may like to check out in the
book "The Miracle of Flight", by Stephen Dalton, published by Merrell publisher
s,
ISBN 1 85894 128 8.
This book has many superb photographs of birds (and insects) in flight, and
has a very good anaylsis of the mechanics involved.
Well worth a read.
David Ackery
New Zealand
Some F1E info and photo [or out with the Honda and in with the Mule]
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Hi Roger,
Regarding the purported rumor about some possible F1E flying at the Issacson
contest in February your sluethful sources were indeed correct. Norm
Furutani & I are now discussing how to have an F1E demonstration during the
Isaccson contest weekend and possibly during the week between the Issacson
and the MaxMen contests in February. Norm will be getting more information
out in the coming weeks about it. While I don't want to feed the rumor mill
I will say that I will be bringing a number of Romanian F1E models that I
brought back from the F1E world champs this past September in Poland so
there will be some real hands on flying for those who may want to try out a
wonderful FAI free flight event which is virtually unknown in the USA but
flown with great gusto in Europe. I will be providing some extensive
information about F1E and getting it out on SEN before the February flying
session. Without letting the cat out of the bag I will mention a few tidbits
about why F1E is a compelling event to consider flying. While you can fly
F1E in the relative calm you can also fly it when it is too windy to fly
free flight. Take an F1E along to a Lost Hills contest and if the contest
gets blown out then go up to the hills and fly F1E. For all you Luddites out
there F1E can be a great event. Since the models are not under high stress
or high speeds you can use use just about any traditional model construction
from spruce, balsa and tissue all the way to the high tech carbon and be
competitive with any of them. F1E is the perfect way to use all those old
F1A wings that are now obsolete and are sitting in your garage collecting
dust. It is the ideal FAI event for those who want to build their own models
as well. Lastly and most importantly I want to assure all of you that F1E is
not a fuddy duddy event flown by a bunch of old codgers who can't wind a
rubber motor. Quite to the contrary it is a wild and crazy group (lots of
juniors were flying at the world champs too!) and as proof I have enclosed a
recent photo from my F1E mentor, coach and inspiration who is from Romania.
Dan Petcu, this years F1E world cup champion helped me for a year in
learning about F1E and has taught me everything I could ever want to know
about the event including how to launch a model from a Donkey. Here is a
photo of Dan showing his true enthusiasm for F1E. We won't have any donkey
launch flying in February but I'm open to the idea if anyone will bring a
tame pet donkey with them.
Seriously, F1E is a great event to fly so watch the SEN news over the next
few months for a report on the F1E world champs this past September and lots
of info on how and why to give F1E a try. Here is a heads up for you vicious
competitive types, I was the only American flying F1E at the recent world
champs and it is my goal to have a full USA team for the next F1E world
champs to be held in Romania in 2003. Anybody out there interested in
thinking different and competing for a slot?
Mac the Magnetic Bigot
rounds
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roger.
i think the f a i mini events .
the rounds should be eliminated and the number of
flights should be increased to seven flights.
please see what the rest of the mini event flyers
think of this.
don wilkiinson.
Re: F1B-Fins
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All moving, lifting fins:
Since I want the lift of the fin to the left (= right turn) I put the flat
side to the right.
Looking at an average polar diagram the drag should be higher, if you try to
get that lift through a lot of negative incidence.
( See: I still think about drag, even using box fuselages, constand chord
wings and ... :-))
furthermore: all my fins have turbulators.
and: all fins are hinged on a 0.8mm piano wire, nothing thicker. In a crash,
this just slides out of the fuselage tubing, few breaks!
Regards
Klaus
PS: got the issue 653 of Dec 10 twice, the second time even doubled up (Text
twice in the issue). What went wrong?
[Brain fade in the production department]
America Cup results - with individual placings
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Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 15 W
MM 36 W
SCA 18 W
EFF 10 E
SCT 4 C
NCA 13 W
FFA -X- C
Sky 10 E
BAl 16 W
TCC 5 C
McL 1 C
IFA 5 C
MMM 6 C
HC 13 E
USO 31 C
NWF 7 W
ESF 8 C
AFA 7 C
CIA 10 C
WFA 2 W
DC 2 C
CFA 27 W
SC 12 W
SWC 15 W
Ska 10 E
ACT 6 C
USF 17 W
PC 17 W
KOI 0 E
F1A
1 VanNest, Brian 111 SWR-1 MM-2* NCA-1 Sky-3* BAl-1 USO-2 SC-3* USF-3*
2 Hines, Lee 110 MM-4* TCC-1 MMM-1 USO-1 NWF-2* CFA-2* USF-5* PC-1
3 Parker, Jim 107 MM-1 SCA-3 HC-1 USO-4* NWF-5* SWC-1 PC-3*
4 Erguner, Omer 96 EFF-2 Sky-1 ESF-2 AFA-4* CIA-1 Ska-5*
5 Barron, Andrew 95 SWR-2 MM-3* EFF-1 HC-4* AFA-3* CIA-5* SC-2 Ska-2
6 Tzvetkov,Tzvetan 80 Sky-4* IFA-2 ESF-4* AFA-2 CIA-2 Ska-3
7 Spence, Steve 76 SCT-2 TCC-4 USO-3 ACT-1
8 Coussens, Tom 75 SWR-3 NCA-5 CFA-4 SWC-5 USF-4* PC-2
9 Fedor, Mike 72 SCT-4 TCC-2 MMM-3 ACT-2
10 Brocks, K Peter 61 SWR-5 MMM-4 NWF-3 DC-1
11 Markos, Chuck 59 Sky-2 IFA-3 HC-2
12 Allnutt, Peter 58 SCA-2 NCA-4 CFA-3
13 McKever, Mike 57 SCA-5 BAl-3 SC-1 PC-5*
13 Sifleet, Bob 57 IFA-5 ESF-1 AFA-1
15 Brun, Pierre 53 NCA-3 BAl-2 NWF-4
16 Parker, Dallas (Jr) 50 NWF-1 SWC-2
17 Zink, Don 49 SCA-1 SWC-3
18 Avollone, Michael(Jr) 44 SWR-4 MM-5 IFA-4 USO-5
19 Kozlyuk, Dimitro 43 SCA-4 BAl-4 SWC-4
20 Schelp, Jon(Jr) 40 SCT-1 TCC-3
21 Sheffer, Jackie 36 SCT-2 ACT-3
22 Barron, Peter (Jr) 33 EFF-3 CIA-3
23 Barron,John (Jr) 30 EFF-4 Sky-5 Ska-4
23 Coussens, Ben(Jr) 30 CFA-1
25 Busnelli, Ernesto 29 USF-1
26 Revkin, Josh(Jr) 27 Ska-1
27 Smitz, Willard 26 MMM-5 DC-2
28 Bradley, Jim 25 McL-1
28 Lane, Robert 25 WFA-1
28 Thornbery, Jim 25 IFA-1
31 Joyce, Kate 24 USF-2
32 Cowley, Martyn 23 CFA-5 SC-4
32 Davis, Jon 23 NCA-2
34 Diez, Hector 22 SC-5 PC-4
34 Fags, Kevork 22 EFF-5 ESF-3
36 McQuade, Pete 21 MMM-2
37 Smith,Norm 20 WFA-2
38 Lenartowicz, C 18 HC-3
39 Schlosberg, Aram 12 CIA-4
40 Avila, George 11 TCC-5 ACT-5
40 Reeve, Mike 11 ACT-4
42 Mitchell, Phil 9 SWC-5
42 Terzian, Fred 9 BAl-5
44 Farkas, Leslie 8 HC-5
45 Scharb, Bill 6 AFA-5
45 Thomson, Ben(Jr) 6 ESF-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 13 W
MM 42 W
SCA 17 W
EFF 9 E
SCT 2 C
NCA 9 W
FFA -X- C
Sky 9 E
BAl 19 W
TCC 4 C
McL 4 C
IFA 14 C
MMM 10 C
HC 9 E
USO 38 C
NWF 5 W
ESF 9 C
AFA 17 C
CIA 4 C
WFA 4 W
DC 2 C
CFA 31 W
SC 13 W
SWC 14 W
ska 5 E
ACT 3 C
USF 9 W
PC 20 W
KOI 0 E
F1B
1 Crowley, Paul 102 SWR-1 Sky-1 IFA-3 AFA-1
2 Wood, Dick 97 SCA-4* EFF-2 SCT-2* NCA-5* TCC-2* McL-2* IFA-1 MMM-3* HC-5* ESF-2 CIA-1 WFA-2* DC-1* ACT-3*
2 Booth, Bill 97 SWR-2 SCA-1 NCA-3* SWC-3 USF-1
4 Ghio, Walt 94 MM-1 NCA-2 HC-3 CFA-5* PC-2
5 Batiuk, George 93 BAl-2 MMM-1 SC-3 SWC-2
6 Andriukov, Alex 83 MM-2 BAl-3* CFA-1 SC-1 USF-4*
7 Pearce, Fred 75 SCT-1 TCC-1 ACT-1
8 Fitch, Jerry 70 MM-3* NCA-1 SC-2 PC-3
9 Tymchek, Bob 66 SCA-3 NCA-4 SWC-1 USF-5
10 McGlashan, Jerry 61 EFF-4 Sky-5* IFA-5* MMM-2 ESF-4 ska-3
11 Wang, Lee (Jr) 57 ESF-1 CIA-4 ska-2
12 Piserchio, Bob 55 SCA-5* CFA-2 PC-1
13 Avollone,Eddie(Jr) 53 BAl-4 McL-1 IFA-4
14 Norvall, Larry 52 SWR-4 MM-4 SCA-2
14 Pratt, John 52 HC-1 NWF-1
16 Guinder, Taylor(Jr) 47 EFF-1 CIA-2
16 Sessums, John 47 BAl-1 USF-3
18 Ellis, Dave 46 USO-5 ESF-3 AFA-4 ska-5
19 Simon, Greg* 42 IFA-2 AFA-3
20 Clapp, John 41 Sky-4 HC-2 ESF-5
21 Avollone,Anthony 39 McL-3 AFA-2
22 Horak, Ladi 37 HC-4 ska-1
22 VanNest, Brian 37 USO-4 USF-2
24 Wiley, Ed 35 TCC-3 ACT-2
25 Cooney, Ralph 33 SWR-3 WFA-3
25 Jensen, Blake 33 CFA-3 SC-4
27 Sifleet, Bob 30 USO-1
28 Morrell, Roger 28 MM-5 SWC-5 PC-5
29 Brooks, Jim 25 USO-2
29 Tracey, Dan 25 WFA-1
31 Felix, Ron 22 Sky-2
31 OReilly, Jim 22 TCC-4 MMM-4
33 Rohrke, Rich 21 SWR-5 SWC-4
34 Laird. Tom 20 USO-3
34 Sessums, Herb 20 NWF-2
36 Blom, Fred 17 EFF-3
36 Nippert, Vic 17 Sky-3
38 Dorsett, Chuck 15 NWF-3
38 Schroeder, Lee 15 NWF-5 WFA-4
38 Schroedter, George 15 CFA-4
38 Barron, John (jr) 15 CIA-3
38 Luken, Jim 15 PC-4
43 Hinson, Rex 10 McL-4
43 Kendy, Len 10 NWF-4
43 Nelso, Elmer* 10 BAl-5
43 Laffler, Red 10 ska-4
47 Jones, Ryan(Jr) 9 AFA-5
48 Davis, Mike 8 SC-5
49 Iorger, Tom 7 EFF-5
49 Jones, Darold 7 MMM-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 3 W
MM 26 W
SCA 8 W
EFF 1 E
SCT 3 C
NCA 4 W
FFA -X- C
Sky 3 E
BAl 10 W
TCC 2 C
McL 1 C
IFA 8 C
MMM 1 C
HC 5 E
USO 13 C
NWF 2 W
ESF 5 C
AFA 8 C
CIA 4 C
WFA 1 W
DC -X- C
CFA 20 W
SC 13 W
SWC 1 W
ska -X- E
ACT 4 C
USF 7 W
PC 9 W
KOI 0 E
F1C
1 Gutai, Bob 101 SWR-1 Sky-3* IFA-5* HC-3* USO-2 ESF-1 AFA-2* SC-1 USF-2*
2 Kirilenko, Andrei 96 EFF-1 Sky-2* IFA-1 HC-1* ESF-2 CIA-1 CFA-5*
3 Parker, Faust 90 SWR-2 SCT-2 TCC-1 McL-1 ACT-2*
4 Archer, Randy 89 SWR-3 SCA-1 BAl-4* CFA-1 SC-3
5 Johannes, Bob 87 IFA-4 USO-1 AFA-4* CFA-2 SC-2
6 Joyce, Doug 83 SCA-5* NCA-3 BAl-1 CFA-4* SC-5* SWC-1 USF-3 PC-5*
7 Morris, Gil 77 MM-3 Sky-1 IFA-3 USO-5* AFA-3
8 Keck, Ed 63 MM-4 HC-2 USO-4 ESF-3
9 Spence, Henry 60 MM-5 SCT-1 ACT-1
10 Poti, Norm 54 NCA-4 USO-3 AFA-1
11 Simpson, Roger 52 NCA-1 PC-1
12 Sifleet, Bob 51 IFA-2 HC-5 ESF-5 CIA-2
13 Roberts, Mike 50 NWF-1 WFA-1
14 Kerger, Terry 48 SCA-2* BAl-2* CFA-3* USF-1 PC-2
15 Happersett, Ken 47 MM-1 BAl-3 PC-4*
16 Simpson, Reid 35 TCC-2 ACT-3
17 Oliver, Ken 30 SCA-4 SC-4 USF-4
18 Carroll, Ed 27 NCA-2 BAl-5
19 McCormick, W.D. 25 MM-2
19 Solomon, Rolond 25 MMM-1
21 Warren, John 23 USF-4 PC-3
22 Mc Burnett, Ron 20 NWF-2
22 Schlachta, Frank 20 HC-4 ESF-4
24 Mennano, Guy 16 SCA-3
25 Chesson, Don 15 SCT-3
25 Wagner, Joe 15 CIA-3
27 Kerr, Tom 10 CIA-4
27 Troutman, Mark 10 ACT-4
29 Perkins, Daryl 6 USF-4
29 Servaites, Bucky* 6 AFA-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 16 W
MM 25 W
SCA 14 W
EFF 8 E
SCT 6 C
NCA 10 W
FFA 8 C
Sky 8 E
BAl 14 W
TCC 7 C
McL 9 C
IFA 14 C
MMM 8 C
HC 7 E
USO 57 C
NWF 7 W
ESF 7 C
AFA 14 C
CIA 5 C
WFA 3 W
DC 4 C
CFA 15 W
SC 6 W
SWC 11 W
ska 6 E
ACT 5 C
USF 7 W
PC 12 W
KOI 0 E
F1G
1 White, Bob 113 SWR-1 MM-1 SCA-1 NWF-1
2 Wood, Dick 109 SCA-4* EFF-1 SCT-3* NCA-3* FFA-2* Sky-3* BAl-5* TCC-2* McL-1 IFA-1 HC-3* ESF-5* AFA-5* CIA-4* WFA-1* DC-1* SC-3* ACT-5* PC-1
3 Cooney, Ralph 95 SWR-3* MM-2 MMM-2 NWF-3* WFA-2 CFA-1
4 Cole, Hank 93 SCA-3 NCA-1 BAl-1 NWF-2
5 Brocks, Peter 85 SCA-5* MMM-1 NWF-5* DC-3 SC-1 PC-3
6 Booth, Bill 83 USO-3 CFA-2 SWC-2 USF-3 PC-5*
6 Pelatowski, Larry 83 EFF-4 ESF-1 CIA-1 ska-2
8 Ivers, Dick * 72 Sky-1 CIA-2 ska-1
9 Morrell, Roger 67 EFF-3 SWC-1 PC-2
10 Pratt, John 65 MM-3 NCA-2 BAl-4 NWF-4
11 Vanlandingham, Ed 59 SCT-1 TCC-4 McL-2
12 Wiley, Ed 57 TCC-1 MMM-3 ACT-3
13 Crowley, Paul 55 SWR-2 HC-2 USO-5
14 Emery, Jack 50 SWR-5 NCA-4 SWC-3 USF-4
15 Tymchek, Bob 49 SCA-2 USF-1
16 Blom, Fred 46 IFA-2 AFA-2
17 Vargo, Edward 44 FFA-1 IFA-3
18 Nippert, Vic 42 Sky-2 ESF-2
19 Clapp, John 39 EFF-5 Sky-4 HC-5 ESF-3
19 Scheiman, Phil (jr) 39 NCA-5 SC-4 USF-2
21 Hatschek, Bob 38 EFF-2 Sky-5 ska-4
22 Norvall, Larry 32 BAl-2 CFA-5
22 Schroedter, G 32 CFA-3 SWC-4
24 Buss, Bill 31 USO-4 ska-3
24 Konefes, Ed 31 FFA-5 USO-2
24 Parmenter, Frank 31 SCT-5 ACT-1
27 Williams, Joseph 30 USO-1
28 Ioeger, Tom 29 ESF-4 AFA-3
29 Jones, Charlie* 28 AFA-1
29 O Dwyer, John 28 SCT-4 McL-5 ACT-4
31 Sayer, Leo 26 HC-1
31 Vanderbeck, Bill 26 SC-5 ACT-2
33 Davis, Bill 21 SC-2
33 Murphy, Jerry 21 MMM-4 DC-4
33 Pearce, Fred 21 SCT-2
36 DeLoach 20 DC-2
37 Davis, Mike 18 BAl-3
38 Juhl, Jim 17 McL-3
39 Avallone, Eddie 16 FFA-3
39 Wernicke, Ken 16 TCC-3
41 Kamla, John 15 WFA-3
41 Myers, Dick 15 MM-4
41 Pelatowski, Ed 15 CIA-3
44 Mulligam, M 14 CFA-4
44 Peterson. Alan 14 SWR-4
46 Stewart, Oval 13 AFA-4
46 Wilson, Dale 13 IFA-4
48 Jahnke, Ross 12 McL-4
48 Luken, Jim 12 PC-4
50 Brooks, Jim 11 HC-4
50 Markos, Chuck 11 FFA-4
52 Critchlow, Bob 10 MM-5
53 Jones, Ryan(Jr)* 8 IFA-5
53 Zeisloft, Jon 8 SWC-5
55 Nelson, Elmer 6 MMM-5
55 O Reilly, Jim 6 TCC-5
55 Rousseau, Ron 6 ska-5
55 Seivwright, Don* 6 USF-5
59 Ivers, Rich * 5 CIA-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 5 W
MM 10 W
SCA 8 W
EFF 6 E
SCT 3 C
NCA 10 W
FFA 5 C
Sky 7 E
BAl 13 W
TCC 3 C
McL 5 C
IFA 4 C
MMM 5 C
HC 2 E
USO 21 C
NWF 4 W
ESF 5 C
AFA 5 C
CIA 7 C
WFA 2 W
DC 1 C
CFA 8 W
SC 12 W
SWC 10 W
ska 6 E
ACT 6 C
USF 8 W
PC 9 W
KOI 0 E
F1H
1 Cowley,Martyn 101 SWR-3* MM-2 SCA-2* NCA-1 CFA-1 SWC-1 USF-4*
2 Sifleet, Bob 97 IFA-1 USO-5* ESF-1 AFA-5* CIA-1 ska-2
2 Hines,Lee 97 NCA-2 BAl-5* TCC-1 MMM-1 USO-2 NWF-2* USF-3* PC-3*
4 Smith, Norm 95 SWR-1 MM-4* USO-3 NWF-1 WFA-1 SWC-4* USF-5*
5 VanNest, Brian 89 SWR-2 MM-1 NCA-5* Sky-3* BAl-3* USO-4* CFA-2* SC-4* SWC-3 USF-1 PC-4*
6 Fedor, Mike 86 SCT-1 TCC-3 MMM-2 ACT-1
7 Markos, Chuck 82 SWR-4* FFA-2 Sky-2 IFA-4* HC-1 CFA-3
8 McKever, Mike 75 MM-3 SCA-4* NCA-4 BAl-1 SC-3 PC-5*
9 Busnelli, Ernesto 74 SCA-1 NCA-3 BAl-2 SC-5 USF-2* PC-2*
10 Brun, Pierre 69 SCA-3 USO-1 SC-2
11 Parker, Dallas (Jr) 63 NWF-3 SWC-2 PC-1
12 Spence, Steve 61 SCT-2 TCC-2 ACT-2
13 Avollone,Michael(Jr) 60 SWR-5 FFA-3 McL-2 IFA-2 AFA-4*
14 Pailet, Jean 56 FFA-4* McL-3 IFA-3 ESF-5* AFA-3 CIA-4* ska-4
15 Nippert, Vic 52 EFF-5 Sky-1 ESF-2
16 Smitz, Willard 40 MMM-3 DC-1
17 Pelatowski, Larry 38 EFF-3 Sky-5 ska-3
18 Lane, Robert 30 NWF-4 WFA-2
18 Thomson, Ben(Jr) 30 ESF-3 CIA-3
20 Zink, Don 28 SC-1
21 Pelatowski, Ed 26 EFF-1
21 Radziunas, Sarah 26 CIA-2 ska-5
21 Ivers, Rich 26 ska-1
21 Sheffer, Jackie 26 SCT-3 ACT-4
25 Grabski, Paul 25 McL-1
25 Jones, Tom 25 FFA-1
25 Matsuno, Chris 25 AFA-1
25 Schlarb, Bill 25 McL-5 AFA-2
29 Coeyman, Charles 21 EFF-2
29 Crogan, Vince 21 EFF-4 ESF-4
31 CoussensTom* 19 BAl-4 SWC-5
32 Revkin, Josh (Jr) 16 Sky-4 CIA-5
32 Reeve, Mike 16 ACT-3
34 Avallone, Eddie 15 FFA-5 McL-4
35 Davis, Jon 13 MM-5 SCA-5
36 Pangell, Cass* 10 MMM-4
37 Buddenbohm, Stan 6 CFA-4
37 Avila, George* 6 ACT-5
39 Hardin, Ed * 5 McL-5
39 Pangell, Rick* 5 MMM-5
Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 4 W
MM 16 W
SCA 4 W
EFF 5 E
SCT 12 C
NCA 5 W
FFA 3 C
Sky 4 E
BAl 10 W
TCC 2 C
McL 3 C
IFA 7 C
MMM 1 C
HC 2 E
USO 22 C
NWF 3 W
ESF 4 C
AFA 6 C
CIA -X- C
WFA 1 W
DC -X- C
CFA 12 W
SC 10 W
SWC 3 W
ska -X- E
ACT 9 C
USF 5 W
PC 5 W
KOI 0 E
F1J
1 Parker, Faust 108 SWR-1* MM-1 SCT-1 TCC-1* McL-1 SC-2* ACT-1
2 Gutai, Bob 104 SWR-2* Sky-1 IFA-3* HC-1 USO-2* ESF-2* AFA-1 CFA-1 USF-1* PC-2*
3 Roberts, Mike 101 MM-2 BAl-1 NWF-1 WFA-1 CFA-3*
4 Gunder, Austin (Jr) 100 MM-3* EFF-1 Sky-2 IFA-4* USO-1 ESF-1 AFA-3* CFA-4*
5 Pailet, Jean 88 EFF-2 FFA-1 Sky-4* McL-2 IFA-2 ESF-4* AFA-5*
6 Poti, Norm 83 MM-4 NCA-5* IFA-5* USO-3 CFA-2 SC-1
7 Augustus, Bruce 77 MM-5* SCA-1 NCA-4* BAl-3 NWF-2 SWC-3
8 Robertson, Tony* 60 SWR-4 SCA-2 SWC-2 PC-4
9 Morris, Gil 56 FFA-3 Sky-3 IFA-1
10 Haught, Jim 52 NCA-1 FFA-2 SC-5
11 Keck, Ed 45 HC-2 USO-5 ESF-3
12 Johannes, Bob 39 BAl-4 USO-4 SC-4
13 Mennano, Guy 37 SCA-3 BAl-2 PC-3*
14 Sheffer, Jackie 29 SCT-3 ACT-4
15 Menanno, Frank* 25 MMM-1
15 Berry, Dan 25 SWC-1
15 Warren, John 25 PC-1
18 Carroll, Ed 24 CFA-5 SC-3
18 Snyder, Russ 24 SCT-5 ACT-3
20 Carstens, Fred* 23 SCT-2
21 Marsh, Jack 21 AFA-2
21 Fedor, Mike 21 ACT-2
23 Greer, Jason 20 TCC-2
23 Simpson, Roger 20 NCA-2
23 Lynch, Bill 20 USF-2
26 Irwin, John 19 SCT-4 ACT-5
27 Avollone,Eddie(Jr) 15 SWR-3
27 Heinrich, Don * 15 NCA-3
27 Parsons, Dave 15 NWF-3
27 Roundsaville,Dave 15 EFF-3
27 Wilkinson, Don * 15 McL-3
27 Shirley, David* 15 USF-3
33 Lorbiecki, John (Jr) 11 AFA-4
34 Kerr, Tom 10 EFF-4
34 Laird, Tom 10 SCA-4
34 Thompson, Mike* 10 USF-4
37 Johannes, David 7 BAl-5
38 Higgs, Adam (jr) 5 EFF-5
38 Hernandez, Ron 5 PC-5
38 Adams, Del 5 USF-5
F F infusion
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I'm pretty new to freeflight (less than a year) however I have been
involved in aeromodeling most of my life. The letters that I have been
reading about raising interest at events are some what puzzling.First
adding money to winnings, every time I have seen this done it does not
bring new people in. It does seem to eliminate the competitors who were
in it for sport and sorry to say people will cheat more often when there
is any money involved.Changing the rules to make the airplanes more
affordable isn't likely to help simply because more stringent rules
usually means more sofistication which means more money.weve all seen
this in any form of auto racing.
now for the new guys oppinion for what I think will help. try thinking
in this manner,if you have ever tried to catch a fish wouldnt it help to
ask the fish what would make him interested. what I mean by this is talk
to peaple at hobby shops most dont even now freeflight exists anymore. I
live near sacramento ca. and had no idea that wagel field was a free
flight site untill my dad asked me to meet him at a contest. so put up
info sheets(when and where the contests are). if possible maybe a video
of free flight planes being launched could be played ocassionally behind
the counter.(FIC'S being launched are impressive to new peaple)
basically stop being invisible.Another thing that might help, publish a
list of where to get parts. I have been helped to live near guys like
galbreath, oliver and roger simpson who have been a great help, but
still trying to find the parts to build with is extremely difficult.who
has props ,wings, fuselages booms etc. I know it might be a tough sell
since nffs normally charge for ads. but if every one is on the list who
could complain. and if might help freeflight in general.
Yes I do realize I may not know what I'm talking about but think about
what new people would be interested in not the experienced.
dave shirley jr.
2002 NFFS TMOY
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From: Mike and Celeste
Fellow Modelers
The 2002 NFFS TMOY (ten models of the year) Committee is looking for
Christmas presents. Please consider nominating a free flight design to
be considered for inclusion in TMOY portion of the NFFS Symposium.
Nominations are due no later that February 1st 2002. It must include a
one page description of the model design and competition record, or
unique contribution for a component, tool or material. A resume of the
modeler/designer or inventor, a one page three view with dimensions and
a photograph of the nominated item, modeler or inventor. General
categories are, glider, rubber, power, indoor, scale and/or cool, nifty,
gotta have, component, tool or material.
I will copy the materials sent and distribute to our very talented
committee members who will vote on the best 2002 submissions. More
specifics are available on the NFFS web site or feel free to contact me.
I will continue to ask until our committee tree has a satisfactory
number of presents for all members to unwrap (I know we have all been
good).
Thanks
Mike Roberts (Chair TMOY)
2435 53rd SW.
Seattle, WA. 98116
PH 206-937-2740
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Prima 2001
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Guys
I made a promise that I would sort out a page with pictures and results with
respect to the Prima contests that we ran a month or so back. I have put
the details on my site. The specfic page is:
http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/prima.htm
Take a look.
Michael J Woodhouse, Norwich, UK
All mail to: -
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Roger Morrell
