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News and Reports 2000 - First half
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Table of Contents
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MaxMen 2000 Results
re CIAM Proposals - Ackery
Source for electronic timer
Polyspan Question - Korsgaard
Bear Cup 2000 - Linkosalo
CIAM agenda and RDT - Gregorie and Hidden Edge
Free Flight World Championships - Gustavo
Cleveland Model Supply - Ramrod250
Paul Rowledge-version 2 - Tribe
MaxMen 2000 Results
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Note that because of bad weather on Sunday only one round was flown
that day. The flyoff would was flown as 1 10 minute round on Monday morning.
F1A
ROUND 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 F1 TOTAL PLACE
CONTESTANT COUNTRY
SPENCE, STEVE USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 287 1757 1
KOCHKAREV,MIKHAIL RUS 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 213 1683 2
HINES, LEE USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 202 1672 3
VAN ELDIK,TONY NED 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 196 1666 4
STAMOV,VICTOR UKR 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 189 1659 5
COWLEY,MARTIN USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1470 6
WEILER,RANDY USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 170 1460 7
MAKAROV,SERGEI RUS 210 180 180 160 180 180 180 180 1450 8
BARRON,ANDREW USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 146 1436 9
VAN NEST,BRIAN USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 141 1431 10
RUMPP,STEFAN GER 210 180 180 180 180 180 150 151 1411 11
ARINGER,GERHARD GER 210 180 180 180 180 161 180 139 1410 12
WILLIAMS,JOHN GBR 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 107 1397 13
ABAD,JAVIER ESP 210 180 180 145 180 180 180 141 1396 14
PARKER,DALLAS USA 210 180 180 165 180 180 180 117 1392 15
BREEMAN,CENNY BEL 210 180 180 180 180 127 180 152 1389 16
MARKOS, CHUCK USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 160 111 1381 17
PARKER,JIM USA 210 180 88 180 169 180 180 180 1367 18
ZINK, DON USA 210 180 180 180 127 180 180 126 1363 19
BESCHASNY,VASILY UKR 193 180 180 180 130 180 180 122 1345 20
ALLNUTT,PETER CAN 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 36 1326 21
BRUN,PIERRE USA 210 180 180 164 180 180 180 52 1326 22
SCHLOSBERG,ARAM USA 210 180 180 180 180 140 180 70 1320 23
BUSNELLI,ERNESTO USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 29 1319 24
OLDFIELD,DAVID GBR 185 180 180 180 180 180 180 50 1315 25
SCHULZ,DIETMAR GER 154 180 180 180 180 180 180 79 1313 26
LIMBERGER,RENE LUX 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 27
MAC KENSIE,GORD CAN 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 28
MC KEEVER,MIKE USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 29
SOMERS,JAN NED 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 30
COUSSENS, TOM USA 202 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1282 31
BUDDENBOHM,STAN USA 197 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1277 32
NYHEGN,HENNING DEN 210 180 180 180 180 180 150 DNF 1260 33
BRADLEY,JIM USA 204 170 154 180 180 180 180 DNF 1248 34
ZULIC,DAMJAN SLO 210 180 180 136 180 180 180 DNF 1246 35
SCHODER,HANS SUI 190 179 176 180 180 162 178 DNF 1245 36
CARTER,JOHN GBR 147 180 180 180 180 180 134 49 1230 37
BAUER,KEN USA 210 180 180 108 180 180 180 DNF 1218 38
KULMAKKO,KIMMO FIN 210 127 53 180 180 180 180 106 1216 39
PUHAKKA,RISTO USA 164 130 180 178 180 180 180 22 1214 40
LIVOTTO,JUAN USA 181 126 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1207 41
SOMERS,ANCA NED 189 180 180 180 180 180 117 DNF 1206 42
TERZIAN,FRED USA 115 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1195 43
CUSICK,CRAIG USA 110 172 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1182 44
DIEZ,HECTOR USA 184 180 180 57 180 180 180 40 1181 45
DE BOER,PIETER NED 210 180 180 98 180 121 180 DNF 1149 46
KOZLYUK,DIMTRO USA 62 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1142 47
SMITH,NORM USA 118 180 180 180 120 180 180 DNF 1138 48
KOWAL, KEN USA 158 180 180 66 180 180 178 DNF 1122 49
DAVIS,JON USA 163 180 180 41 180 180 180 DNF 1104 50
BARRON,PETER USA 83 104 180 180 180 0 180 180 1087 51
TZVETKOV,TZVETAN USA 97 180 180 90 180 180 180 DNF 1087 52
COUSSENS, STEPHAN USA 192 118 180 140 62 180 180 DNF 1052 53
BROCKS,PETER USA 108 120 180 138 96 62 121 DNF 825 54
F1B
ROUND 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 F1 TOTAL PLACE
CONTESTANT COUNTRY
KOBORI,MITSUO JPN 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 347 1817 1
ZULIC,DAMJAN SLO 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 339 1809 2
MORRELL,ROGER USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 303 1773 3
CROWLEY,PAUL USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 298 1768 4
MC GLASHAN,JERRY USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 297 1767 5
RUYTER,PIM NED 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 293 1763 6
GHIO,WALT USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 289 1759 7
TYMCHEK, BOB USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 280 1750 8
HRIBAR,TOMAZ SLO 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 257 1727 9
VIVCHAR,IGOR UKR 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 254 1724 10
JENSEN,BLAKE USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 155 1625 11
ANDRIUKOV,VLAD USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1470 12
BEN-ITZHAK,ITZIK ISR 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1470 13
BROOKS,JIM CAN 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1470 14
EWING,RICK USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1470 15
HANNAH,BRUCE USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1470 16
HORAK,LADI CAN 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1470 17
ROWSELL,DOUG CAN 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1470 18
KURSHUDIAN,ALBERT USA 210 180 170 180 180 180 180 180 1460 19
JENSEN,DANE USA 210 180 180 171 180 177 180 180 1458 20
ELLIS, DAVID USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 165 1455 21
HATAZAWA,TOSHI USA 210 180 165 180 180 180 180 180 1455 22
MEUSBURGER,HAROLD AUT 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 165 1455 23
CRITCHLOW,BOB USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 147 1437 24
FITCH,JERRY USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 147 1437 25
WOODHOUSE,MIKE GBR 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 146 1436 26
TRACY,DAN USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 145 1435 27
BURDOV,ANDREY RUS 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 144 1434 28
PISERCHIO,BOB USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 143 1433 29
FELIX,RON USA 210 180 180 180 180 170 180 140 1420 30
SESSUMS,JOHN USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 125 1415 31
BRUSH,ALLEN USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 120 1410 32
ASLETT,BERNARD GBR 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 97 1387 33
BOOTH,BILL USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 46 180 1336 34
WILEY, ED USA 210 180 161 180 180 132 180 105 1328 35
ANDRIUKOV,ALEX USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 0 1290 36
DAVIS,EVAN USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 37
DORSETT,CHUCK USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 38
LUEKEN, JIM USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 39
MULLIGAN,MIKE USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 40
PRATT,JOHN USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1290 41
VAN MERKESTYN,PIETERNED 210 180 175 180 180 180 180 DNF 1285 42
SESSUMS,HERB USA 210 180 180 180 180 167 180 DNF 1277 43
BENEDINI,HUGO ARG 210 180 180 180 180 165 180 DNF 1275 44
CLAPP,JOHN USA 210 180 180 164 180 180 180 DNF 1274 45
MEYERS,DICK USA 210 180 164 180 180 180 180 DNF 1274 46
FURUTANI,NORM USA 210 180 180 180 180 163 180 DNF 1273 47
COONEY,RALPH USA 163 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1243 48
JENSEN,GENE USA 210 180 124 180 180 180 180 DNF 1234 49
GIBBONS,BILL USA 191 180 180 180 180 180 142 DNF 1233 50
LACEY,DAVID USA 160 162 180 180 144 129 152 119 1226 51
PEERS,RUSSELL GBR 210 180 180 180 180 180 112 DNF 1222 52
WOOD,DICK USA 210 180 180 180 168 180 114 DNF 1212 53
JOYNER,LOUIS USA 210 180 176 180 87 180 180 DNF 1193 54
KENT,GEOFF GBR 199 180 180 180 180 180 90 DNF 1189 55
DAVIS,MIKE USA 210 180 180 180 60 180 180 DNF 1170 56
ULM, AL USA 195 180 180 65 180 180 180 DNF 1160 57
LAIRD,TOM USA 210 180 180 180 31 180 180 DNF 1141 58
ROHRKE,RICH USA 210 180 25 180 180 180 180 DNF 1135 59
MC GUCKIN,DEREK USA 210 180 180 180 180 180 2 DNF 1112 60
ACKERLEY,CAMERON CAN 32 180 161 180 180 180 180 DNF 1093 61
VINCENT,LINCOLN NZL 208 180 180 129 108 122 165 DNF 1092 62
HINSON,REX USA 210 180 180 180 59 180 40 DNF 1029 63
MATTERN,STEVE USA 136 144 169 99 180 84 95 DNF 907 64
MAVES,ROGER USA 210 180 180 9 DNF DNF DNF DNF 579 65
FRIEBIS,JOE USA 6 6 66
FIC
ROUND 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 F1 TOTAL PLACE
CONTESTANT COUNTRY
SCREEN,STAFFORD GBR 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 370 1870 1
GUTAI, BOB USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 363 1863 2
SPENCE, HENRY USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 324 1824 3
POTI,NORM USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 314 1814 4
SCHLACHTA,FRANK CAN 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 308 1808 5
VERBITSKY,EUGENE UKR 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 278 1778 6
PARKER,FAUST USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 227 1727 7
SIMPSON,ROGER USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 218 1718 8
ARINGER,GERHARD GER 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 200 1700 9
STILES, CHARLIE USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 159 1659 10
JOHANNES,BOB USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 180 0 1500 11
TRUPPE,REINHARD AUT 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 174 1494 12
ARCHER,RANDY USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 172 1492 13
JOYCE,DOUG USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 163 1483 14
KIRILENKO,ANDREI USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 162 1482 15
BABENKO,ARTEM UKR 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 0 1320 16
GALBREATH,DOUG USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 17
HAPPERSETT,KEN USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 18
KECK,ED USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 19
KERGER,TERRY USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 20
MC BURNETT,RON USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 0 1320 21
MORRIS,GIL USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 22
PERKINS,DARYL USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 23
ROBERTS,MIKE USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 24
SAHLBERG,PETER USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 25
SUGDEN,DAVE CAN 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 26
WARREN,JOHN USA 240 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1320 27
SUMMERSBY,ROY AUS 214 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1294 28
WATSON,PETER GBR 240 180 180 180 180 180 154 DNF 1294 29
OLIVER,KEN USA 142 180 180 180 180 180 180 DNF 1222 30
F1G
ROUND 1 2 3 4 5 f1 f2 TOTALPLACE
CONTESTANT COUNTRY
BURDOV,ANDREY RUS 120 120 120 120 120 180 300 1080 1
MORRELL,ROGER USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 280 1060 2
TYMCHEK,BOB USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 183 963 3
JENSEN,GENE USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 171 951 4
CRITCHLOW,BOB USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 108 888 5
CROWLEY,PAUL USA 120 120 120 120 120 157 757 6
DAVIS,BILL USA 120 120 120 120 120 135 735 7
EMERY,JACK USA 120 120 120 120 120 106 706 8
KAMLA,JOHN USA 118 120 120 120 120 598 9
COLE,HANK USA 120 120 120 120 107 587 10
WHITE,BOB USA 120 120 120 95 120 575 12
BROCKS,PETER USA 120 120 120 86 120 566 13
DAVIS,MIKE USA 120 120 120 85 120 565 14
VIVCHAR,IGOR UKR 120 120 120 83 120 563 15
WOOD,DICK USA 120 120 120 120 75 555 16
CLAPP,JOHN USA 120 120 120 120 67 547 17
MEYERS,DICK USA 120 120 120 78 103 541 18
WILLIAMS,JOE USA 93 98 120 108 120 539 19
MC GUCKIN,DERER USA 70 120 95 120 120 525 20
KENT,GEOFF GBR 120 90 120 90 95 515 21
FUNK,WES USA 66 120 120 85 120 511 22
VINCENT,LINCOLN NZL 73 93 59 120 72 417 23
COONEY,RALPH USA 120 120 120 DNF DNF 360 24
VAN NEST, BOB USA 120 115 DNF DNF DNF 235 25
BOOTH,BILL USA DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF 0 26
F1H
ROUND 1 2 3 4 5 f1 f2 f3 TOTALPLACE
CONTESTANT COUNTRY
KOCHKAREV,MIKHAIL RUS 120 120 120 120 120 180 300 238 1318 1
VAN NEST,BRIAN USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 300 219 1299 2
COWLEY,MARTIN USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 300 205 1285 3
BUSHNELLI,ERNESTO USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 300 167 1247 4
ZINK,DON USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 300 145 1225 5
NORTON,BOB USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 300 119 1199 6
MARKOS, CHUCK USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 300 113 1193 7
CARTER,JOHN GBR 120 120 120 120 120 179 779 8
BUDDENBOHM,STAN USA 120 120 120 120 120 123 723 9
GHIO,WALT USA 120 120 120 120 120 92 692 10
ZULIC,DAMJAN SLO 120 120 120 119 120 599 11
VINCENT,MOIRA NZL 120 116 120 120 120 596 12
HINES,LEE USA 120 120 111 120 120 591 13
BRUNN,PIERRE USA 120 120 102 120 120 582 14
STAMOV,VICTOR UKR 120 120 120 104 115 579 15
SMITH,NORM USA 84 120 120 120 103 547 16
F1J
ROUND 1 2 3 4 5 f1 f2 TOTALPLACE
CONTESTANT COUNTRY
PARKER,FAUST USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 344 1124 1
ROBERTS,MIKE USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 321 1101 2
WARREN,JOHN USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 316 1096 3
SERVAITES,BUCKY USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 134 914 4
GUTAI,BOB USA 120 120 120 120 120 180 48 828 5
PARSONS,DAVE USA 120 120 120 120 120 165 765 6
PERKINS,BOB USA 120 120 120 120 120 138 738 7
SPENCE, STEVE USA 120 120 120 120 120 137 737 8
JOHANNES,BOB USA 120 120 120 120 120 57 657 9
KERGER,TERRY USA 120 120 120 116 120 596 10
SAHLBERG,RAY USA 98 129 120 120 107 574 11
SPENCE, HENRY USA 120 120 120 120 59 539 12
LAIRD,TOM USA 113 43 120 85 120 481 13
AUGUSTUS,BRUCE USA DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF 0 14
re CIAM Proposals
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There are lots of proposals there, some you like, some you don't.
Here are some of my thoughts on just two issues.
RCDT
I really do not like this. We do not need it.
Yes I agree that it would be really nice to have, there are lots of neat =
things it can do for you.
But at the same time we see lots of proposals to the same meeting for =
ways to make models simpler.
This is in response to the spiralling technology, complexity, cost and =
performance of our models. This is putting the classes beyond the reach =
of more people that it attracts, and numbers are dwindling, not =
increasing.
RCDT will confer enormous tactical advantages to those who have it, and =
it will become essential to have this one more toy to stay competitive.
It will add weight, complexity and cost to our models, and put people =
off. We do not need this.
And the other reason I do not like it is that it is not free flight. To =
be free flight the model needs to be free.
If you can control it by radio then it is not free flight, not for me =
anyway. I fly R/C sometimes, and appreciate the differences, that is why =
I like free flight better.=20
This is a philosophical argument but it IS important.=20
What is the next step ?, why cannot we allow RC assist to steer the =
model back to the flight line AFTER it has maxed. And on and on. There =
are other contest classes for this but it not free flight.
I vote no, we do not need RCDT.
Fuel tube engine run
I find this Italian proposal intriguing. No reason or explanation is =
given.=20
But my analysis of the effect, and the reason is as follows.
This change would allow existing aircraft to continue to be used, while =
at the same time inducing a paradigm shift in the way power models =
operate.
Changes to existing models would be,=20
1 reduced performance due to lack of fuel pressure (suction only)
2 no problem timing engine runs, timing no longer required, no over runs =
!!!
3 length of engine run would be ?? longer?? shorter??
And in the future
1 promote a shift to slower climbing models, requiring less gadgets
2 promote the use of more fuel efficient engines (diesels. spark ign ?)
3 as development happens it is easy to cut back the fuel allowance
But what I really want to know is some feedback and information from the =
Italian power fliers, and whoever drafted this proposal. What is the =
intention of this proposal ?, has it being trialed ?, have they tried a =
fast (current) model, and a slow (fuel efficient) model, what was the =
result ?.
Somebody likes this idea, please, tell us why.
David Ackery
New Zealand
Source for electronic timer
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ST2 is a full-featured electronic timer for F-1-A class gliders.
Main Features:
-controls up to two servos;
-maximum 10 steps (commands) of program are available. The times (time
delays) and the servo positions for each step are programmable;
-maximum time value is 999 seconds (more then 16 minutes) with minimum
increment of 0.1 sec.;
-the servo position range is from 0 to 250 units;
-servo positions for three hook states may be programmed for towing;
-servo positioning in real time;
-two DT (Dethermalize) sets are available. The time and servo positions
for each DT set may be programmed. The DIP switch selects desired DT =
set;
-SLEEP mode for power saving. The servo power is completely turned OFF
while in the SLEEP mode.
Fail Safe functions. Fixes the servos at selected DT position when =
accident
situations are detected:
-power fails (against brownout events during free flight);
-the towline is lost or breaks down (against flyaway);
-acceleration time is longer then the preprogrammed time;
-an external signal presents at the interrupt input longer then the
preprogrammed time (this may be used against diving and/or for remote =
landing...).
Other functions:
-confirm acoustic signals;
-acoustic beacon for location of the model. The beacon may be switched
ON or OFF by the DIPswitch at any time;
-unused servo skipping;
-pause/resume functions;
-auto stopwatch function ready.
All the programmed data are stored in EEPROM.
Firmware upgradable.
An expensive computer and corresponding software is not requested for
programming. Only a simple console is used for programming/checking. The =
console does not
need for an additional battery.
Size, mm: 34 x 29.5 x 13
Weight w/o battery, buzzer, sensors and servos: 6 gram
Voltage: 3 - 6 VDC (4 x NiCd)
All further information are available upon inquiry.
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Polyspan Question
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Dear Roger and friends,
I do hope that you and all the competitors participating in these
Californian Free Flight Days have had a very nice time.
Not being there I used the weekend to cover a pair of F1B wings
with the well-known Polyspan/Klaus Salzer Vlies for the first time ever. I
normally use Mylar for this purpose - no problems.
The Polyspan went on very easily using dope as an adhesive just like
covering with jap paper in the good old days. The material adhered to the
bare carbon structure very good. Then I gave the covering four times thinned
dope 50/50 and it became tight. A water spray confirmed that the dope had
also made it waterproof.
But the surface is still full of fluffies or fuzzies. I tried to
sand them off but it nearly made it worse.
Now my question is: Should I live with these built in
turbulators/invigorators or does anyone know a trick to make the surface a
little more smooth?
I would be very grateful to hear anything on this subject.
Best regards
Jorgen Korsgaard
Ahornweg 5, Ellund
D-24983 Handewitt
Germany
Bear Cup 2000
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Bear Cup 2000
This year we had probably the best conditions ever. Temperatures a few
degrees C below zero, wind from calm to 3m/s, and overcast. 50cm of solid
steel ice (if you had had a road to the lake, you could have drown a car
on it), with 10cm of fresh, soft powder snow on top. Easy to walk on,
excellent for skiing.
The fly-offs went straight into 7 minutes. In glider 6 made it to the
fly-off, with the Finns (Kari Tuisku, Kim Henrikkson and Heikki
Salminen) taking a triple. In F1B, Michael Seifert took victory, followed
by Alexander Shelepov and Janne Isotalo. In F1C Jyri Roots won once again,
Timo Niiranen was the second, and Kaarle Kuukka third.
=20
F1A 1 2 3 4 5 TOT
1 Tuisku Kari FIN 930+ 420 - - - 1350
2 Henrikson Kim FIN 930+ 390 - - - 1320
3 Salminen Heikki FIN 930+ 365 - - - 1295
4 Findahl Per SWE 930+ 277 - - - 1207
5 Ronkanen Pekka FIN 930+ 263 - - - 1193
6 Hellgren Robert SWE 930+ 134 - - - 1064
7 Poliayev Valeri RUS 208 180 180 180 180 928
8 Isotalo Tommi FIN 210 177 180 180 180 927
9 Lihtamo Matti FIN 210 180 180 175 180 925
10 Valo Jari FIN 210 180 180 180 173 923
11 Tahka Jyri FIN 210 180 175 180 153 898
12 Selgoja Ants EST 210 180 180 142 180 892
13 Pajunen Timo FIN 181 180 180 180 164 885
14 Tahkapaa Heikki FIN 210 131 180 180 180 881
15 Laaksonen Jori FIN 156 180 180 180 180 876
16 Varuskivi Vesa FIN 208 180 180 126 160 854
17 Kutvonen Ari FIN 210 173 120 167 180 850
18 Sillgren Jukka FIN 151 180 122 180 180 813
19 Kankaanranta Olli FIN 164 169 137 175 146 791
20 Rahkala Pekka FIN 118 180 180 114 180 772
21 Parna Ardo EST 166 180 108 118 180 752
22 Leino Laura FIN 163 134 180 140 132 749
23 Kuningas Juhani FIN 147 100 146 172 150 715
24 Keto-tokoi Jyrki FIN 163 128 140 132 100 663
25 Munnukka Niilo FIN 27 180 134 133 180 654
26 Kiljunen Harri FIN 103 73 130 174 126 606
27 Tchop Victor UKR 159 180 - - - 339
28 Runnari Valve FIN 54 39 91 153 - 337
F1B 1 2 3 4 5 TOT
1 Seifert Michael GER 930+ 420 - - - 1350
2 Shelepov Alexsander RUS 930+ 373 - - - 1303
3 Isotalo Janne FIN 930+ 363 - - - 1293
4 Rosonoks Viktors LAT 930+ 340 - - - 1270
5 Waltonen Yrja FIN 930+ 338 - - - 1268
6 Kutvonen Ari FIN 930+ 200 - - - 1130
7 Seifert Rolf GER 200 180 180 180 180 920
8 Isotalo Juhani FIN 197 180 180 180 176 913
9 Linkosalo Tapio FIN 208 180 180 159 180 907
10 Mantere Antti FIN 175 180 180 180 180 895
11 Kilpelainen Ossi FIN 182 170 180 180 180 892
12 Posa Riku FIN 190 175 180 180 167 892
13 Saari Pekka FIN 155 180 180 170 143 828
14 Pakarinen Teuvo FIN 119 130 164 168 154 735
15 Kiiskinen Markku FIN 47 60 180 180 180 647
16 Henrikson Jari FIN 149 91 156 102 83 581
17 Solodov Maxim RUS 210 180 23 - - 413
18 Hanhilammi Tapio FIN 55 53 54 62 84 308
F1C 1 2 3 4 5 TOT
1 Roots Jyri EST 960+ 294 - - - 1254
2 Niiranen Timo FIN 960+ 98 - - - 1058
3 Kuukka Kaarle FIN 210 180 180 180 180 930
4 Korban Sergei RUS - 168 174 180 180 702
CIAM agenda and RDT
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Roger,
Chris Edge asked me to forward this to SEN to help the RDT rules change
discussion along. It looks pretty sensible to me. The initial part was
originally sent to John Barker. John is chairman of the FFTC, which runs
Free Flight in the UK.
Martin
Chris writes:
> "There are many options for the use of radio D/T in competition.
> Whatever is eventually allowed at international FAI level will come in
>
> to force in the UK at some time. I understand that there are three main
> functions, instant D/T, extend D/T and "go to".
>
> My view is simple; allow instant D/T to be used after the maximum time
>
> has been scored or the model goes out of sight and is no longer being
> timed. Any use of the instant D/T function before the max would result
>
> in disqualification. Any use of extend D/T before the max should be
> allowed as the only advantage can be to miss trees, crops, villages
> etc. This latter point allows us to be seen to be concerned about the
> environment and property - of course you can extend a D/T by just
> setting it longer before release so the "advantage" has always been
> there. Note that this should not be allowed in Open when an extend
> function in a flyoff would be a positive advantage ! Finally there are
>
> functions that allow a "go to" mode. Often this is used in F1C to cut
> the engine and go to glide. This can be an advantage in low cloud to
> cut the run on a F1C or in F1A to abort a poor bunt; this should be
> outlawed as again it represents an advantage.
>
> So, in summary :-
>
> Extend flight function Allowed at any time in flight
> Instant D/T Allowed after max or when OOS
> "Go to" function Not allowed
>
> How you could possibly police such rules is another matter but then
> trust is something that is an integral part of free flight."
>
>
> As you can see my ideas are a little different from the Danish and
> Germans in that you can't use the instant D/T until the flight has been
> completed (max or OOS) however you can extend the flight time to avoid
>
> problem areas. I think FF should be seen to care about how we fly but
> shouldn't allow an advantage by D/T'ing early before the max. There
> would have to be something about attempts to stop the early D/T when
> you've had an overrun as officially the flight stops at that point but
>
> I didn't convey that unfortunately. In this latter case I think the
> German suggestion is better but difficult to enforce - guess though
> you
> can assume that if you are called an overrun then it D/T's then it
> must
> be radio activated !
>
> CHE
>
>
CIAM rules II
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Roger,
Sorry this stuff is coming through somewhat piecemeal, but CHE and I have
also been discussing the Italian rules and here are some points that haven't
been aired recently, if at all, in SEN. You may want to edit this onto the
end of the previous e-mail.
Martin
I sent the following to Chris Edge in discussions on the Italian rule
proposals:
"The 5 minute launch window rule is a big problem with the Italian
proposals. I think its a bit much to ask a timekeeper to time 5 minutes on
one watch and still correctly start the flight time watch on launch. I have
visions of Gordon Speedie here (old NZ clubmate) who was practising HLG one
day, got distracted and threw the watch while clicking the glider."
Here is his response (I was at the same contest he's talking about and saw
it too):
>
> "As for the 5 minute rule, it is open to abuse. I remember at Maniago
> one year when they flew that rule that a local (Italian) was allowed
> about 15 minutes to tow with the timekeeper looking at the watch and
> scowling but not disqualifying. The flight maxed well outside of 5
> minutes and he flew off. You then get in to problem of how you time it
>
> all, especially difficult if the guy launches right at the end of the
> period. I don't see any advantage only more disputes.
>
> The better idea is the longer max although I balk at doing 4 minutes
> in
> F1A (extremely unlikely in most cases) compared to 5 minutes in F1C
> (extremely likely in most case). For parity I would suggest 7 minutes
> in power - why is glider always penalised ? I expect that the longer
> first round max will come in though. As for extending other rounds,
> unless you fly off a frozen lake how many contests have you flown in
> recently where an entire round could have flown an extended max ?"
>
My response to these objections to the longer max is that we don't often get
suitable conditions in the UK but that a longer max would be very useful
when such conditions do crop up, e.g. the last UK Nats, most days at
Maniago, the 1998 Poitou event and even on some days at Lost Hills.
Thermals,
> Martin
>
>
Free Flight World Championships
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Dear Roger
Dear Free Flight lovers all over the world
Considering the news about the unavailability of Australia to host 2001
World Champ.for Free Flight, the Portuguese Aeromodelling Federation is
considering the possibility of proposing Portugal as organiser of the
event.
We will give you further news about that in a short time.
Best regards
Jorge Gustavo
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[ At the MaxMen there was discussion about a number
of countries offering to host the 2001 Champs - but
nothing definative]
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Cleveland Model and Supply was sold to a gentleman in Indianapolis:
Box 55962AA
Indianapolis IN 46205-0962
(317) 257-7878
Catalog is $5 domestic, $10 foreign.
See ad p. 40, March 2000 Model Aviation.
Paul Rowledge-version 2
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I will try to get Pauls E-mail address correct at the second attempt:-
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regards, Peter Tribe.
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Roger Morrell
