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News and Reports 2000 - second half
SCAT Electronic News 26 August 2000 issue 460
Table of Contents
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Triumph and Tragedy at the Junior Free Flight World Champs: - Davis
FAI European Championship 2000 - Kaynes
Entry Level .049 and .061 Engines - Whitesides
Slobat Cries or maybe even Slobbers - Slobat, who else
Orbiteer's Tri-club contest - Booth and Steinmetz
Triumph and Tragedy at the Junior Free Flight World Champs:
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A report from the sidelines.
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Triumph and Tragedy at the Junior Free Flight World Champs: A report from
the sidelines.
Not much has been written about the Junior World Champs yet since it only
ended a week ago but many of you have, no doubt, read that we had some some
really good and really bad news from the contest. I think George Batiuk will
be writing a more comprehensive report so I won't go into much detail but
there are some things that I want to report on and give all of you the
general flavor of the competition. As reported earlier my son Evan had
overweight motors and was disqualified from the contest after the third
round. Needless to say this was a real tragedy to us personally and the rest
of the team as well and it was about as horrible and out of left field as
anything I have ever experienced in life. Like many mistakes and horrible
events in life this one no doubt has a silver lining as well and was
certainly a major learning experience for all of us. I'll explain later what
we think happened as we have tried to reconstruct events but first I want to
talk about all the good news of the trip.
In every respect this was a wonderful trip and competition and both Evan and
I feel honored that we were part of it, no matter what the outcome was.
George Batiuk deserves enormous praise for his efforts and energy in
promoting the Junior Team efforts. Given the complexities of the travels,
the organization, a group of teenage kids, and a motley crew of parents and
supporters I think George did a superb job of juggling lots of competing
priorities and an Adams Family mix of personalities. From my perspective no
one could have done a better job than George did and his efforts certainly
made the trip and the competition the wonderful experience that it was.
George has a great way with the Juniors. They all looked up to him and
clearly gave him the kind of respect he deserved. When he said jump they
pretty well jumped. I thought the camaraderie between George and his Junior
Team was particularly good. Having now seen both junior and open teams in
action together I think it is fair to say that the job of managing a junior
team has to be twice as tough as managing the seniors from a logistics point
of view but probably twice as easy from a personalities perspective.
The Junior Team was a great group of teenagers and I was impressed beyond my
expectations with their dedication, enthusiasm and friendliness. The juniors
all got along great and I have no doubt that some lifelong friendships will
develop from the experience. The group of parents and supporters were
equally great and I have nothing but accolades for all involved. Throwing a
bunch of teenage boys together with a crew of adults who don't know each
other very well for an international trip would be interesting under the
best set of circumstances and this trip came off very well I don't think
things could have gone any better than they did.
A few things really stand out now that I have been home for a week and I
wanted to share some of these with you.
Our chase crew organization and performance was something to behold.
Everyone worked together well and models were picked up quickly and
efficiently. In addition to the all team members' families, we also had help
from Brian and Janna Van Nest and Bob and Connie Pischerio. As an overall
group the chasing effectiveness was top notch and there were a number of
difficult and long chases as well as several tree retrievals. My hat is off
to all of those who participated in the chasing support. A few of the more
interesting chases involved Dallas Parker's F1A glider landing in a pond of
cow manure seepage that was the color of strong coffee and twice as thick
and flowed from a gigantic pile of manure that was commonly referred to as
=B3brown mountain=B2. Father Jim did a delicate job of tip toeing through the
tulips to retrieve it and had to completely dissemble the timer in order to
get the gunk out. It was the only really crappy experience we had. It was
quite amusing listening to the walkie talkie chatter when trying to spot the
models and hear things like , it's just to the left of brown mountain and
maybe past it a bit, or, take a left on brown mountain road and that will
take you to the wheat field and the model is in there somewhere. In the
spirit of doing everything well Austin Gunder stuck a model in the very top
of the largest tree in all of Czech Republic and a concerted group effort
was able to get it down unscathed. If I was a betting man I would have put
the odds at 1 in 100 against getting it back in one piece, I'm glad I was
wrong as was Austin! There were times when we all looked like the Keystone
Cops running and driving around the airfield and the back roads of Czech but
this was one damn good chase crew!
As far as the flying went I was quite taken with the level of performance
the Juniors showed. The spirit behind the Junior World Champs is that the
juniors prepare and fly their own models and not be proxy flyers for their
parents or the adults. Help was close by when any of our team needed help
but this was a resourceful bunch of young men and without question they all
flew their own contest and did an admirable job! The rest of the competitors
were also a very nice group and, aside from some yelling and screaming from
a few of the other team managers, everyone was in good form.
If anyone ever deserved to be a Junior World Champ it would have to be
Austin Gunder. Putting aside the fact that Austin looks and acts as if he is
18 (I think he is 15) he is simply one of the most level headed, careful,
and attentive model flyers I have ever seen regardless of age, as well as
being a really great guy. His win in F1J was convincing and the next closet
time to his was about a minute and half less. I have to report that Austin
is now learning to fly F1A which means that all of us who fly the event
better tighten up our tow lines as I have no doubt that he will literally be
running circles around us in short order. That won't be much of a problem
for me since I spend more of my towing time flat on the ground than running
but for all you F1A hotshots, Austin will be hot on your heels before long.
David Ellis did a great job in F1B and it is no fluke that he consistently
places high. I peeked over David's' shoulder during practice while he was
getting his model ready and I can tell you that he has a written history of
every single rubber motor he took to the contest and he knew the motors
inside and out. Based in his tests he knew exactly which was his best motor.
David was a focused competitor and a careful flyer and his 3rd place finish
attests to that. I have a feeling that David may be giving Evan some
coaching on the fine art of rubber motor prepping.
I could go on and on about each of the team members but suffice it to say
that we sent a good team with a lot of spirit and spunk and I came home a
lot more optimistic about the future of FAI free flight than before I left.
The ending banquet was terrific fun and the kids from all the countries were
trading T-shirts, playing hackey sack in groups and getting to know each
other. I'm not so great on the running end of a tow line but I manage to
hold my own when it comes to a party. Half way through the evening the
French team decided to bombard the American table with plastic bottle tops
after party animal Dallas Parker sent a bottle top their way using the old
fork & catapult method. The French knew just what to do and it wasn't long
before a full blown bottle cap war erupted. I only reluctantly joined in the
fray after seeing the enthusiasm with which our juniors were going for it
and Jim Parker was not far behind. Jim even managed to pull the Pischerios
into it by covertly pelting Connie with bottle tops and then pointing his
finger at the other tables. Connie tossed a few herself while Bob went about
accumulating a huge pile of the bottle caps for himself. I want to get the
record straight here as at one point Andrew Barron was yelling at me for
acting juvenile (I won't deny that) but while he was busy yelling at me Bob
Pischerio stood up and sent of a huge volley of bottle caps to the shores of
the French table (I think someone needs to yell at Bob too!) This was
clearly a case of things degenerating to the lowest common denominator but
it sure was fun. White flags came out from several tables and the Bottle Cap
War of 2000 came to an end.
Our junior F1b team was nowhere to be found during the bottle cap wars and
after further investigation I found Evan, Arron, and David (all in the 16
&17 year old range) outside the hotel hanging out with a group of the local
Czech kids. My vision was not totally up to par but it seemed to me that the
Czech girls were particularly enamored with our youthful F1B team. The
intense glare from the team made it clear that I was to to leave the
premises as quickly as possible and go back to the banquet, which I promptly
did. It was the first time in my life that I really felt like an old fart.
My wife Margie is telling me to get used to it!
As to the rubber motor fiasco Evan & I have reverse engineered what happened
that led to the problem and it comes down to a simple mistake in zeroing out
the scale before weighing the motors. The scale I have is an old pharmacy
scale with two pans and a sliding weight up to 100 grams and a small 1 gram
slider for tenths. The scale is big and heavy with a leveling screw on both
sides. The first thing we did when we got home was to pull the scale out and
put one of the infamous motors on it, the scale was still set to 34.5 grams
and the motor seemed to be within weight. After putting the weights back to
zero and taking the motor off the pan it became very clear that scale was
not set to zero. The motors were never weighed again after their initial
weighing and cutting and that was certainly a mistake in our system. I was
glad to see that all 50 motors that Evan made for the contest were all
extremely close to the same weight (36 to 36.5 grams) so I at least knew he
did a careful job of weighing them and he and his mom spent over half a day
breaking in and testing the motors. The motors were never checked again (big
mistake) and the rest is history. Life has it's lessons and some are more
painful than others but one thing I am certain of is that Evan will never
ever have an overweight rubber motor as long as he lives. As a parent it was
very tough for me to see this happen and it pained me as much as it did him
but I was proud of how he handled it and after a few hours of agony he was
helping out the team and getting over it.
In closing I have one more story from the contest to tell and this one
really made an impression on Evan (and me as well). After Evan was
disqualified and in shock Pierre Chaussebourg (who was on the jury) came up
to Evan. Pierre was visibly shaken and had tears in his eyes. He grabbed
Evan and told him how sorry he was at what happened and he knew how
devastating this was for him. He then held Evan by both shoulders and
looking him straight in the eyes he asked him to promise him that he would
not give up flying models and that he would continue to fly and compete and
to not let this setback sour the sport for him. It was as heartfelt an
encounter as I have ever experienced and had an enormous impact. Pierre then
said something to the effect that, we all walk as men and when we fall we
must get back up as men and continue on. That message went straight into
Evan's core.
I really thought getting disqualified would probably put an end to FAI
modeling for Evan but that was not the case. By the end of the contest he
had bought a new pair of long F1B wings and is now getting ready to fly in
the open team finals at Lost Hills next month with one of life's tough
experiences carefully tucked under his belt. I thank George for giving of
himself to the Juniors and I thank Pierre for his compassion and honesty
with Evan. I have always loved this sport and it is because of people like
George and Pierre that make me realize what it is about this sport that I
find so wonderful and compelling. My thanks to all of you who helped and
supported the junior team program over the years and at the contest, your
efforts and resources have not gone to waste. Just ask any of the Juniors,
past or present!
Jon Davis
aka Mac the Bigot
[ Sorry to have to tell you this Jon, but not even the 'famous'
baggy rapper pants move you out of the Old Farts Club]
FAI European Championship 2000 in class F1A
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Held at Buzau, Romania from August 19 to 25
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1 Jeno Voros HUN 1290 + 300 + 318
2 Viktor Stamov UKR 1290 + 300 + 306
3 Dusan Fric E/C 1290 + 300 + 302
4 Kari Tuisku FIN 1290 + 300 + 297
5 Bohuslav Ryz CZE 1290 + 300 + 290
6 Stefano Pagnini ITA 1290 + 300 + 276
7 Valeriy Lazarevich UKR 1290 + 300 + 275
8 Antoon van Eldik NED 1290 + 300 + 248
9 Rudolf Holtzleitner AUT 1290 + 300 + 243
10 Peter Williams GBR 1290 + 300 + 220
11 Sebastien Soulard FRA 1290 + 300 + 218
12 Stanislaw Kubit POL 1290 + 300 + 216
13 Vidas Nikolajevas LTU 1290 + 300 + 194
14 Attila Notaros HUN 1290 + 293
15 Libor Starek CZE 1290 + 270
16 Rimas Indrisionis LTU 1290 + 266
17 Sergei Pankov RUS 1290 + 255
18 Czeslaw Ziober POL 1290 + 233
19 Ferenc Kerner HUN 1290 + 230
20 Jari Valo FIN 1290 + 209
21 Ivan Bezak SVK 1290 + 207
22 Ivo Kreetz NED 1290 + 199
22 Miroslav Bucko SVK 1290 + 199
24 Daniel Crintescu ROM 1290 + 180
25 Eyal Galor ISR 1290 + 161
26 Viorel Ciucu ROM 1290 + 157
27 Per Findhal SWE 1290 + 146
28 Irhad Hadzimehmedagic BIH 1290 + 126
29 Mike Cook GBR 1290 + 103
30 Sabrija Limo BIH 1290 + 43
31 Dariusz Stezalski POL 1290 + 35
32 Haris Hadzihajdarevic BIH 210 180 179 180 180 180 180 1289
33 Kristapas Kradevics LAT 208 180 180 180 180 180 180 1288
34 Ivan Treger SVK 207 180 180 180 180 180 180 1287
35 Javier Abad ESP 202 180 180 180 180 180 180 1282
36 Stefan Rumpp GER 197 180 180 180 180 180 180 1277
37 Pieter de Boer NED 210 180 180 180 156 180 180 1266
38 Francois Moreau FRA 177 180 180 180 180 180 180 1257
39 Christoph Bachmann SUI 176 180 180 180 180 180 180 1256
40 Nir Dahan ISR 168 180 180 180 180 180 180 1248
41 Erwin Pacher AUT 165 180 180 180 180 180 180 1245
42 Yossi Fox ISR 210 180 180 130 180 180 180 1240
43 Bostjan Bagari SLO 210 180 180 180 180 180 123 1233
44 Daniel Trumpf SUI 210 180 180 180 180 180 113 1223
45 Grangu Popa ROM 210 180 180 180 180 180 109 1219
46 Heikki Tahkapaa FIN 136 180 180 180 180 180 180 1216
46 Wolfgang Gerlach GER 136 180 180 180 180 180 180 1216
48 Michael Holmbom SWE 179 180 131 180 180 180 180 1210
49 Ertugrul Yasdiman TUR 128 180 180 180 180 180 180 1208
50 Jean-Pierre Challine FRA 123 180 180 180 180 180 180 1203
51 Vittorio Brussolo ITA 210 180 180 180 180 89 180 1199
52 Pavel Russki RUS 174 180 180 122 180 180 180 1196
53 Helmut Fuss AUT 210 180 83 180 180 180 180 1193
54 Werner Burri SUI 191 180 180 180 180 180 101 1192
55 Carlos Ferreira ESP 210 80 180 180 180 180 180 1190
56 Mikhail Kochkarev RUS 166 180 180 94 180 180 180 1160
57 Andreas Rink GER 183 180 180 72 180 180 180 1155
57 Robertas Seinauskas LTU 75 180 180 180 180 180 180 1155
59 Jan Beyer CZE 186 180 180 180 67 180 180 1153
60 Viktor Chop UKR 159 180 180 127 90 180 180 1096
61 Baki Can TUR 114 180 180 125 180 106 180 1065
62 Jivko Nikolovski MKD 130 180 99 180 180 180 110 1059
63 Giorgio Sacchi ITA 116 180 180 180 158 63 180 1057
64 Brivnieks Robrts LAT 60 180 180 180 134 141 180 1055
64 Tamer Ekinci TUR 110 174 180 180 180 51 180 1055
66 Matej Nardin SLO 143 68 180 180 117 180 180 1048
67 Herbert Hartmann SWE 174 56 180 77 180 180 180 1027
68 Doug Bartle GBR 195 44 180 96 180 47 180 922
69 Dejan Gomboc SLO 102 180 161 180 180 44 66 913
Number of maximums 40 64 64 61 63 62 63
Number of full scores 40 39 37 36 35 34 31
Team Results
Country Abbreviation Total Team member places
1 Hungary HUN 3870 1 14 19
2 Poland POL 3870 12 18 31
3 Bosnia Herzigovina BIH 3869 28 30 32
4 Slovakia SVK 3867 21 22 34
5 Netherlands NED 3846 8 22 37
6 Romania ROM 3799 24 26 45
7 Finland FIN 3796 4 20 46
8 Israel ISR 3778 25 40 42
9 France FRA 3750 11 38 50
10 Lithuania LTU 3735 13 16 57
11 Czech Republic CZE 3733 5 15 59
12 Austria AUT 3728 9 41 53
13 Ukraine UKR 3676 2 7 60
14 Switzerland SUI 3671 39 44 54
15 Germany GER 3648 36 46 57
16 Russia RUS 3646 17 52 56
17 Italy ITA 3546 6 51 63
18 Sweden SWE 3527 27 48 67
19 Great Britain GBR 3502 10 29 68
20 Turkey TUR 3328 49 61 64
21 Slovenia SLO 3194 43 66 69
22 Spain ESP 2472 35 55
23 Latvia LAT 2343 33 64
24 Macedonia MKD 1059 62
Results produced by Ian Kaynes
FAI European Championship 2000 in class F1B
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Held at Buzau, Romania from August 19 to 25
1 Oleg Kulakovskiy UKR 1290 + 300 + 420 + 389
2 Antonio Sanavio ITA 1290 + 300 + 420 + 321
3 Alexander Andriukov E/C 1290 + 300 + 420 + 234
4 Josef Kosciarz POL 1290 + 300 + 388
5 Geoff Stringer GBR 1290 + 300 + 379
5 Piero Pecchioli ITA 1290 + 300 + 379
7 Abraham Baruch ISR 1290 + 300 + 355
8 Malik Cabaravdic BIH 1290 + 300 + 352
8 Mario Lovato ITA 1290 + 300 + 352
10 Vladislav Urban CZE 1290 + 300 + 350
11 Gunnar Wivardsson SWE 1290 + 300 + 344
12 Anselmo Zeri NED 1290 + 300 + 343
13 Radik Khouziev RUS 1290 + 300 + 342
14 Ari Kutvonen FIN 1290 + 300 + 337
15 Russell Peers GBR 1290 + 300 + 335
16 Sandis Rossonokos LAT 1290 + 300 + 334
17 Nils Erik Hollander SWE 1290 + 300 + 316
18 Mirza Halilovic BIH 1290 + 300 + 313
19 Igor Vivchar UKR 1290 + 300 + 311
20 Dirk Drelse GER 1290 + 300 + 307
21 Harald Meuseburger AUT 1290 + 300 + 297
22 Istvan Kocsis HUN 1290 + 300 + 253
23 Ismet Yurtseven TUR 1290 + 300 + 150
24 Rainer Lotz GER 1290 + 286
25 Marjan Klenovsek SLO 1290 + 272
26 Hakan Broberg SWE 1290 + 263
27 Stanislaw Skibicki POL 1290 + 222
28 Kenan Jusufbasic BIH 1290 + 211
29 Giora Herzberg ISR 1290 + 0
30 Viktors Rossonokos LAT 208 180 180 180 180 180 180 1288
31 Rolandas Mackus LTU 210 180 177 180 180 180 180 1287
32 Tapio Linkosalo FIN 206 180 180 180 180 180 180 1286
33 Karoly Toth HUN 205 180 180 180 180 180 180 1285
34 Antti Mantere FIN 210 167 180 180 180 180 180 1277
35 Mike Woolner GBR 193 180 180 180 180 180 180 1273
35 Aurimas Peciukaitis LTU 210 163 180 180 180 180 180 1273
37 Pim Ruyter NED 210 180 180 180 180 154 180 1264
38 Rudolf Trumpf SUI 210 180 180 180 180 146 180 1256
39 Giuro Gaberschak MKD 210 180 180 180 180 143 180 1253
40 Eugeniusz Cofalik POL 210 180 180 141 180 180 180 1251
41 Evgeniy Gorban UKR 210 180 135 180 180 180 180 1245
42 Constantin Popa ROM 178 180 180 178 180 161 180 1237
42 Ivan Treger SVK 157 180 180 180 180 180 180 1237
44 Andrey Burdov RUS 210 180 124 180 180 180 180 1234
45 Didier Barberis FRA 210 118 180 180 180 180 180 1228
46 Henk van Hoorn NED 210 180 113 180 180 180 180 1223
47 Peter Moenninghoff GER 210 180 180 112 178 180 180 1220
48 Laurie Bureau FRA 210 180 180 173 109 180 180 1212
49 Jozef Petras SVK 210 180 96 180 180 180 180 1206
50 Radovan Kolar CZE 210 157 180 180 117 180 180 1204
51 Peter Magdolen SVK 171 180 180 180 129 180 180 1200
52 Miguel Gordillo ESP 210 180 116 180 180 180 152 1198
53 Vladimir Mironenko RUS 112 180 180 180 180 180 180 1192
54 Horst Wagner AUT 135 180 180 180 137 180 180 1172
55 Crangu Popa ROM 165 136 180 136 180 180 180 1157
56 Tomaz Htribar SLO 210 180 180 180 180 15 180 1125
57 Georges Matherat FRA 172 176 148 85 180 180 180 1121
58 Vadims Racko LAT 196 180 180 142 143 180 98 1119
59 Dietmar Piber AUT 172 176 120 180 180 108 180 1116
60 Romas Brazenas LTU 210 85 118 163 180 180 151 1087
61 Ramon Durendez ESP 115 143 180 180 103 180 180 1081
62 Tuvia Faibishi ISR 210 180 180 180 6 133 180 1069
63 Pavel Feit CZE 210 180 99 180 180 180 0 1029
64 Nicolae Popa ROM 161 131 180 172 180 127 0 951
65 Dieter Siebenmann SUI 155 172 135 0 0 0 0 462
Number of maximums 49 54 54 55 56 56 59
Number of full scores 49 44 37 34 33 29 29
Team Results
Country Abbreviation Total Team member places
1 Italy ITA 3870 2 5 8
2 Bosnia Herzigovina BIH 3870 8 18 28
3 Sweden SWE 3870 11 17 26
4 Great Britain GBR 3853 5 15 35
5 Finland FIN 3853 14 32 34
6 Poland POL 3831 4 27 40
7 Ukraine UKR 3825 1 19 41
8 Germany GER 3800 20 24 47
9 Netherlands NED 3777 12 37 46
10 Russia RUS 3716 13 44 53
11 Latvia LAT 3697 16 30 58
12 Israel ISR 3649 7 29 62
13 Lithuania LTU 3647 31 35 60
14 Slovakia SVK 3643 42 49 51
15 Austria AUT 3578 21 54 59
16 France FRA 3561 45 48 57
17 Czech Republic CZE 3523 10 50 63
18 Romania ROM 3345 42 55 64
19 Hungary HUN 2575 22 33
20 Slovenia SLO 2415 25 56
21 Spain ESP 2279 52 61
22 Switzerland SUI 1718 38 65
23 Turkey TUR 1290 23
24 Macedonia MKD 1253 39
Results produced by Ian Kaynes
FAI European Championship 2000 in class F1C
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Held at Buzau, Romania from August 19 to 25
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1 Edin Sahinovic BIH 1320
2 Evgeniy Verbitskiy UKR 240 170 180 180 180 180 180 1310
3 Marek Roman POL 240 180 180 168 180 180 180 1308
4 Cl-Peter Waechtler GER 240 180 180 180 180 165 180 1305
5 Phil Ball GBR 240 160 164 180 176 180 180 1280
6 Giorgio Venuti ITA 199 180 180 180 180 180 180 1279
7 Bruno Fiegl ITA 240 137 180 180 180 180 180 1277
8 Peter Watson GBR 196 180 180 180 180 180 180 1276
9 Roberto Guadagno ITA 240 180 180 180 153 155 180 1268
10 Piotr Plachetka POL 240 180 127 180 180 180 180 1267
11 Artem Babenko UKR 178 180 171 180 180 180 180 1249
12 Leonid Fuzeyev RUS 227 164 164 180 180 148 180 1243
13 Andreas Lindner GER 240 180 107 180 161 180 180 1228
14 Alexander Molchanov UKR 190 141 175 180 180 180 180 1226
15 Crangu Popa ROM 215 180 158 180 180 128 180 1221
16 Bernard Boutillier FRA 240 128 180 180 163 180 149 1220
17 Gunnar Agren SWE 240 166 180 180 85 180 180 1211
18 Kosta Stoianovski MKD 240 129 180 180 120 180 180 1209
19 Kenan Jusufbasic BIH 240 180 140 180 135 180 153 1208
20 Uwe Glissmann GER 240 99 180 180 142 180 180 1201
21 Mustafa Serdarevic BIH 240 180 103 122 180 180 180 1185
22 Roman Czerwinski POL 240 180 180 180 180 75 129 1164
23 Reinhard Truppe AUT 240 180 75 127 180 180 180 1162
24 Alex Mikhailenko RUS 240 180 180 180 147 33 180 1140
25 Anatoly Kislovsky RUS 205 175 117 167 81 180 180 1105
26 Danas Babenskas LTU 100 180 180 179 80 180 180 1079
27 John Cuthbert GBR 28 180 125 180 123 180 121 937
28 Alain Roux FRA 160 98 123 180 44 151 180 936
29 Robertas Seinauskas LTU 204 157 55 128 0 180 180 904
30 Alex Trayakovski MKD 72 141 180 180 62 76 180 891
31 Roberts Brivnieks LAT 197 38 91 180 0 180 180 866
32 Robertas Kiburtas LTU 139 180 180 0 93 122 121 835
33 Michel Reverault FRA 240 57 123 0 62 180 136 798
34 Marian Popescu ROM 183 48 34 85 65 88 180 683
35 Mircea Radu ROM 160 0 180 180 0 0 0 520
36 Jury Roots EST 240 90 104 0 0 0 0 434
Number of maximums 20 18 18 26 15 24 28
Number of full scores 20 11 6 5 3 1 1
Team Results
Country Abbreviation Total Team member places
1 Italy ITA 3824 6 7 9
2 Ukraine UKR 3785 2 11 14
3 Poland POL 3739 3 10 22
4 Germany GER 3734 4 13 20
5 Bosnia Herzigovina BIH 3713 1 19 21
6 Great Britain GBR 3493 5 8 27
7 Russia RUS 3488 12 24 25
8 France FRA 2954 16 28 33
9 Lithuania LTU 2818 26 29 32
10 Romania ROM 2424 15 34 35
11 Macedonia MKD 2100 18 30
12 Sweden SWE 1211 17
13 Austria AUT 1162 23
14 Latvia LAT 866 31
15 Estonia EST 434 36
Results produced by Ian Kaynes
Entry Level .049 and .061 Engines
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In response to the question posed by Mazzocco:
1. Choices in .049 are probably restricted to two:
a. Cyclon - expensive at $150 apiece.
b. VA II - not so bad at $60+ Gil Morris was using VA II (at least last
year) in 1/2 A. Not sure of continued availability. A combat flyer in Texas
was importing them.
I have not heard of anyone having very good luck with AME .049 in its
original configuration. Perhaps some of the new "Revlite" pieces will
improve its performance.
You can go the Cox TD route by picking up a good one at swap meet - then
change the needle valve and head with parts from Kustom Kraftsmanship. Head
then uses Nelson plugs. Engine is more reliable and more powerful. New TD
plus parts is probably more expensive than VA II.
2. Choices in .061 are wider:
a. Cyclon- expensive
b. MP-Jet - Factory Racing model at $95. Importer is Carlson. Ads show
diesels, but the glow version is a good engine. Galbreath was offering a
modified MP Jet at around $115.
c. AME - .061 has been successful for Gil Morris who runs it on his
current F1J and for Austin Gunder who flew primarily AME's on modified
Mavericks to qualify for Junior World Championship Team. I think his father,
Craig, and possibly Galbreath had worked the engines over quite
significantly. Craig Gunder may have some tips - find him at the Hoosier Cup
at Muncie in mid-September. (He won with Cyclon powered Achterberg Odyssey
models - one of the current best combinations at the top of F1J. Any AME
engine requires the Freedom XL head/plug combination to run right, in my
experience. Galbreath also makes a Nelson plug head for the AME, and a
needle valve. The stock needle valve is not very good, but I have had one
engine run fairly well with stock setup. I understand from Ed Stevens at
Norvel that high nitro may lead to plating failure in the bore. I have had
one lock up after a hot run, but seemed OK after a field disassembly. Revlite
parts may be an improvement.
d. Limited number specials: extensively reworked CS (also .049),
Shuriken, and others, particularly Russian engines, sometimes are on the
market, but usually traded amongst a fairly small number of people. Usually
not cheap.
I don't know if this helps. My recommendation is to get a Cox TD .049 and
AME .061 and Kustom Kraftsmanship and/or Galbreath heads/Nelson plugs and
needles and build some models to fly them on. But fly a lot. There is
nothing more important than making a lot of flights to be comfortable with
procedures - which become more important with technical models with several
functions. When flying is very comfortable and you are ready to build a
third generation of models (first and second hopefully still in use), then
look for more horsepower.
Take a look at Bill Lynch's designs, and his components. The components and
Oliver fuselage components make construction of a high performance model much
easier. There are other ways, but the research may be lengthy. Achterberg
sells components, but his supply chain has not proved to be adequate to the
demand.
APC props, several sizes/pitches, on everything until you are ready for the
very high level and then look for folders. They are a market of their own and
they market is very fluid, so any recommendation now is likely not to be of
much use in the future. Check out who is using what on the field at Muncie.
There should be more responses from recognized experts, which I am not, but
they must all be busy.
Best Regards,
Robert Whitesides
Slobat Cries or maybe even Slobbers
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"George &/or Judi Batiuk"
Hi Roger. I had a few volunteers to time at the Finals as a result of our
last plea, but I am still far short. Do you think we could make another
slobbering plea, even cry if we have to. Thanks, GB
[ .. and I thought the the slo reference was geographical not biological.
That is if I'm permiited to make editorial comments to his postings ]
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Roger
I sent some suggestions to Harry Stienmetz, the "FAI CD" for next weekend
regarding the format of the FAI events. He asked that I pass along his
response to the SWP readers
Thanks, Bill Booth
Bill, Thanks for stirring the pot, and suggesting some answers.
Would you please post the following on the SCAT and FF web sites? I'll
try to get the class on how to this term.
To all thinking of attending the Tri-Club meet over Labor Day weekend.
F1H will be offered on Saturday. The mini FAI events could be offered
in rounds next year if there is general interest. Just let the CD know
your wishes.
Fly-offs for the major FAI events will be determined on cite by the
weather at the decision of the CD. If the weather and the thermals are
good at 4 o'clock, the fly-off will be moved to 6:45 the next morning
and one flight to the ground will determine the winner. If the thermal
activity is diminishing, and the consensus of the eligible flyers is to
proceed with the published plan we will. The CD is disinclined to
jeopardize any planes a month before the Team Trials. F1B and F1C will
fly from different flight lines. Launch stations will change each
round. Hope you will join us for a great meet. Harry Steinmetz FAI
CD.
Bill feel free to edit if you feel the need, just don't alter the
essence. Thanks HLS
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Roger Morrell
