SEN 2439 - Deviant flyoff but not at Salonta and SCAT summer fun while not off elsewhere

Table of Contents – SEN 2439

 

Deviant flyoff but not at Salonta and SCAT summer fun while not off elsewhere

 

  1. EQUINOX CUP Fly off in England
  2. More on Salonta
  3. 2018 SCAT BLACK CUP Fun Fly FAI combo Contests

 

EQUINOX CUP Fly off in England

 

From: Frédéric ABERLENC

 

Here is what we can find on the Jury report of Equinox cup:

 

“The strength and direction of the wind at flyoff time would have resulted in models 

flying into trees given an extended maximum time. For that reason a DT flyoff was 

held, this decision was reached after consultation with all flyers participating in the 

flyoff. The DT time was set for 120 seconds, with the final score being the time to the 

ground. For every second over 120 that the model DTed and penalty of 2x the number 

of seconds over 120 that the model DTed was applied.”

 

 

Again and like for the Bern contest, we dont respect the rules of the sporting manual. 

If it is not possible to make a Fly Off we share the first place (like in Salonta 2018) 

but we dont create new rules.

 

 

For the credibility of Free Flight, these Fly Off have to be cancelled.

 

Regards

 

Frederic

 

 

Editors Notes 

 

1. This email was sent to us in 16 May but for some reason we did not get it so Frederic 

sent a follow up.  This is the correct thing to do.  We do not always send out an SEN 

when we get just one but generally hold it until we a few, unless we judge the subject to 

be very important or time sensitive so when you send us something it may not come out 

that day.  But as you can see form this example sometimes we don’t get an email or it is 

over looked so feel free to send a reminder if you think we have forgotten your email.

2. DT fly offs and local rules.  Frederic’s email raises questions on what deviations, if any 

from the sporting code are permitted for World Cup events.  So, for example :

3. Must the event  have official timekeepers ? how many ? 

4. Maximum number of how  contestants per pole? 

5. Requirement for subdividing round time to give each sportsman a fair go?

6. Must have poles ?

7. Can the CD change the max time of regular rounds, other than the first or last?

8. By how much can the CD change the max time?

9. How does the change in max time have to be announced at the event ?

10. Does it have to be in the contest announcement that the CD might change the max, 

including shorten it?

11. Can the CD have a DT fly off ?

12. If so are there rules for how it must be done ? and how it must be announced ?

13. Clearly I think that people would consider a local rule bad, inappropriate, should not be 

done  that for example decreased towline length for flappers, increased towline length 

for wooden models, or similar such rules for other classes.  So what’s OK ?

 

 

Full Salonta results

 

 

For those interested the Full Salonta results are now online.

 

For those who are curious as to why so much interest in the Salonta contests, it is because they 

have very high participation of top level flyers from many countries.  The Russian events also 

have many participants but not so many from outside of Russia.  Salonta is ideally situated in 

central Europe close to many countries that are only a short drive away.  It has a reputation of 

being a “good contest”.

 

Salonta

 

http://www.freeflightnews.org.uk/wcup/WC18/WR18F1SL.HTM

 

Szabó Miklós Memorial

 

http://www.freeflightnews.org.uk/wcup/WC18/WR18F1SZ.HTM

 

 

2018 SCAT BLACK CUP Fun Fly FAI combo Contests

 

 

June 16, Perris, CA. CD: Jim Parker, 818.404.3834 

July 7, Lost Hills,CA. CD: Ed Carroll, 818.489.5039

Aug 04, Perris, CA. CD: Bill Booth, 706,889.3201

Sept 08, Perris, CA. CD :Roger Morrell, 310.483.8776

 

  

Free Flight FAI  Combo Fun Fly- Record Trials .

7 flights, Standard regular round max times. 2 min max prorated to 3 min.  

NEW: Tie breaker- most entertaining flight as judged by  the CD  

$5 entry for as many events as you want to fly.  

7am to Noon.  

Sunday is a reserve day at discretion of the CD.

Self timing allowed.

Valid for  USA Team Selection Program flight time but no self timing. 

 

Single perpetual "Black Cup" awarded.

 

Perris GPS Coordinates (Lat/Long): 33.78000, -117.20000 

Lost Hills: GPS Coordinates (Lat/Long): 35.6648, -119.7981  

  

150 F1A-A2 Glider - Event Classes: (JSO) 

151 F1B Wakefield - Event Classes: (JSO) 

152 F1C Power - Event Classes: (JSO) 

153 F1G Coupe d'Hiver - Event Classes: (JSO) 

154 F1H-A1 Glider - Event Classes: (JSO) 

155 F1J 1/2 A Power - Event Classes: (JSO) 

158 F1P Power - Event Classes: (JSO) 

159 F1Q Electric Power - Event Classes: (JSO) 

166 F1S Electric - Event Classes: (JSO) 

 

Jim Parker, SCAT president

 

Editor’s comment 

For our readers outside of Southern California, while in most places in the world the summer is the best 

time for model flying events, this is not the case at sites like Lost Hills where the temperature can be 

well over 40 C in the summer.  So it is not practical to have major “serious” contests but like everyone 

else we like to get together and fly.  So we don’t get into trouble with Frederic we do point out that 

these are not World or America’s Cup events :)

 

For those wondering about the Black Cup – for this Fun event Jim recycled a trophy and spray painted it 

black, hence the name Black Cup.

 

SCAT members of course go to summer event in other parts of the world.