SEN 1028 - 7 Sep 2006

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SEN 1028 7 September 2006


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Rule Changes to increase participation
combine F1P with F1C
carbon suppliers
Wilbur and Orville Contest Reminder, this weekend at Barron Field


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Rule Changes to increase participation
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Dear Mike [Woodhouse]

Whilst on the subject of international rules and competitive advantage from
radio controlled free flight planes, you alluded, 20/8/06, to concerns
regarding proposals to cut performance had merely resulted in cost increases
and reduced participation in FAI classes.

Interestingly, whilst there were 19 countries at the Junior World Free
Flight Championship this year; there were 63 nations competing for the Youth
Sailing World championship in Weymouth this July. There did not appear to
be any FF competitors from Asia, Africa nor the Middle East at the FF
Worlds. The sailing competitors were sailing one design boats, providing a
cap on equipment costs, whilst heightening the sailing skills.

After pondering your original concerns, I was wondering if the simple
expedient of removing - reducing the significant kinetic force applied to
gliders and rubber at the point of launch might be a starting point for
further discussions. What if for instance the maximum breaking strain of
FIA glider towlines was set at 20 kg. Whilst I can understand the skills
needed to pick lift whilst circle towing, the consequential high energy bunt
launches are somewhat at odds with good airmanship, but closer to rocketry.
It seems pretty pointless to have to spend an additional £400 for an
electronic bunter only to have the towline reduced to 35 metres.

So whilst I personally will concentrate on putting together the UK FF.
development program, is there any chance of a full and open debate regarding
the future direction of FAI classes? These discussions might like to
consider a new strategy of implementing twin goals of capping the cost
equipment and improving global participation in free flight.

It is not unusual for Sports Governing Bodies to recognise problems of
declining interest and to reconsider direction and implement action to
remedy.

regards

Nick


combine F1P with F1C
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Looking at the result sheet of this years Salzland cup in Germany I found
that F1P flying juniors were listed together with the F1C flyers. Not doing
badly, btw!
I do not know wether they did use the standard F1P-rule, or had something
special.
All in all, I do think it is a good idea for two reasons:
a - it gives those people with F1P-planes more chances to fly and compete,
as I have not yet seen a contest offering F1P here in Europe
b - it will allow F1P-flyers to judge the performance of their birds against
the "fully grown" F1C's and maybe thus further interest in both classes
The number of participants in the power classes is (in Europe) so small that
a number of additional participants can not be a problem.

This, of course, is mainly a matter of the contest organizers except for the
fact that a rule by the FAI has to be made on how to allocate World Cup
points (if any).

So, all you world cup contest organizers - how about it?

many participants and lots of maxes to all

Klaus W. Salzer


carbon suppliers
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For those who are interested in the problems in the World supply of carbon.
The knock on for our toys is obvious.

http://www.total-fishing.com/News.asp?Action=View&ID=EFBB030ED5B44DC8A57ED58
8B1278D76

Michael J Woodhouse, Norwich, UK.


[I followed Mike's URL and got to the Web Site
but nott he article, but doing a search on carbon found
the article.]


A place for discussion
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Nick

The Free Flight Forum is looking for papers/presentations. It would be a
useful place to start the debate an get opinions.

I've copied Martin Dilly in on that basis

Mike Woodhouse


Wilbur and Orville Contest Reminder, this weekend at Barron Field
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Free Flighters,

Here I forward an announcement from Art Ellis of the Wilber and Orville
Society contest including the schedule of events. This is a nice chance
for fliers of all ages to fly alongside the enthusiastic youth of the W&O.

If you need directions to the site (near Middletown, New York) or for
Motel info check the website

www.brooklynskyscrapers.org

Thermals!
Andrew Barron

P.S.
I have added additional names to the distribution list, now numbering many
hundreds of free flight flyers. If you are getting info about our
contests for the first time, welcome to the list! If you would rather not
hear about our free flight activities, let me know and I will remove your
name.

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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: ARTHUR ELLIS
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Subject: Wilbur and Orville Contest


Wilbur and Orville Society Contest

National Cup

FAI, NFFS and AMA events

September 9 & 10 , 2006

Barron, Ford, and Shuback Fields

Wawayanda, New York

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FAI Events:

Saturday September 9:

F1G (small rubber), F1H (small glider), F1J (small power). 120 sec maxes.;
F1Q (electric, 20 second motor run, 150 second max).
[Wind speed and direction may necessitate possible max reduction ]

Round 1: 9:30-11:00am

Round 2: 10:30-12:00

Round 3: 11:30- 1:00

Round 4: 12:30- 2:00pm

Round 5: 1:30- 3:00pm

Flyoffs: 3:15pm --

Sunday September 10:

F1A (glider), F1B (wakefield), F1C (power), F1P(power)

Round 1: 7:00- 8:30am Max 180 sec (weather permitting)

Round 2: 8:00- 9:30am

Round 3: 9:00-10:30am

Round 4: 10:00-11:30am

Round 5: 11:00-12:30pm

Round 6: 12:00-1:30pm

Round 7: 1:00-2:30pm

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AMA and NFFS events.


Saturday Sept 9: 9am--4:30pm. [Awards at 4:30pm.]

Hand Launch Glider, 1/2A Gas, ABC Classic,

ABC Nostalgia, Mulvihill, Classic Towline.



Early Sunday, Sept 10:

Dawn Unlimited (Gather with CDs at 6:45am on field

for ground rules). Launch window (7:00 to 7:15am).



Sunday, Sept 10: 8am to 3:30pm. [Awards at 3:30pm.]

Catapult Glider, 1/2 A Classic, 1/2 A Nostalgia,

P-30 Rubber, Pee-Wee 30 Power,

E-36 (the new NFFS electric entry event),



All fliers pay $10

No trophies


..............
Roger Morrell