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SCAT Electronic News 15 October 2004 issue 910


Table of Contnets
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Sierra Cup Results - McKeever
Lectronics for a Luddite - Allnutt
40 and still going strong
under 35 section
F1B and 30 grams of rubber - Pudney
30 vs 35 - Jahnke
30 Grams - Shailor
30g F1B's - Blackam
Rubber Chronicles - Coleman
F1 King ? - King
F1B rubber weight - Martin
Orange Books by Frank Zaic, SAM 35 Yearbook No. 9, 10
Southwest Regionals, Eloy, Arizona January 2005 - Lidberg
Canada Cup - Corrected - Farkas
SKY-SCRAPER ANNUAL this weekend - last weekend
Honda Key and the Finals - Crowley
20th Annual Autumn Cup - Simpson

Sierra Cup Results
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Sierra Cup 2004 Mini Event

EVENT SIERRA CUP SCORING SHEET 2004
F1G
NAME COUNTRY 1 2 3 4 5
Emery, J USA 120 120 120 120 120 240 840 1
Brocks, P USA 120 120 120 120 120 178 778 2
Davis, B USA 120 120 120 120 120 119 719 3
Davis, M USA 120 120 120 120 120 113 713 4
Vanderbeek, B USA 113 120 120 120 120 593 5
Clapp, J USA 120 120 101 120 119 580 6
Schroedter, G USA 85 120 120 120 120 565 7
Ruyter, P NED 120 120 94 120 89 543 8

EVENT SIERRA CUP SCORING SHEET 2004
F1H
NAME COUNTRY 1 2 3 4 5
Van Nest, B USA 120 120 120 120 120 240 300 279 223 1642 1
Beschasny, V UKR 120 120 120 120 120 240 300 279 193 1612 2
Madelin, G GBR 120 120 120 120 120 240 300 224 1364 3
Cooper, J GBR 120 120 120 120 120 232 832 4
Stamov, V UKR 120 120 120 107 120 587 5
McKeever, M USA 120 120 120 120 92 572 6
Kulmakko, K USA 120 120 120 81 120 561 7
Archer, R-Junior USA 120 120 68 113 120 541 8
Smith, N USA 120 120 30 120 120 510 9
Norton, B USA 63 97 120 120 88 488 10
Hines, L USA 120 120 120 120 0 480 11
Carter, J. GBR 120 120 88 120 0 448 12

EVENT SIERRA CUP SCORING SHEET 2004
F1J
NAME COUNTRY 1 2 3 4 5
Oliver, K USA 120 120 120 120 120 300 286 1186 1
Carroll, E USA 120 120 120 120 120 300 211 1111 2
Gutai, B USA 120 120 120 120 120 235 835 3
Menano, G USA 120 120 120 120 120 227 827 4
Shirley, D USA 120 120 120 120 120 205 805 5
Haught, J USA 120 120 120 120 120 199 799 6
Parsons, D USA 120 120 120 120 59 539 7
Muther, J USA 65 37 DNF DNF DNF 102 8



Sierra Cup 2004 Main event

EVENT SIERRA CUP SCORING SHEET 2004
F1A
NAME COUNTRY 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total Place
Parker, J USA 180 180 120 120 120 337 1057 1
Kochkorev, M RUS 180 180 120 120 120 268 988 2
Madelin, G GBR 180 180 120 120 120 215 935 3
Makarov, S RUS 180 180 120 120 120 214 934 4
Hines, L USA 180 180 120 120 120 206 926 5
Stamov, V UKR 180 180 120 120 120 202 922 6
Coussens, T USA 180 180 120 120 120 116 836 7
Allnut, P CAN 180 180 120 120 120 115 835 8
Van Nest, B USA 180 180 120 120 120 107 827 9
Busnelli, E USA 180 180 120 120 120 93 813 10
Cooper, J GBR 180 180 120 120 120 720 11
Smith, N USA 180 180 106 120 120 706 12
Kulmakko, K FIN 180 163 120 120 120 703 13
Brocks, P USA 177 180 120 93 108 678 14
Zink, D USA 180 180 120 58 120 658 15
Carter, J GBR 175 180 120 120 55 650 16
Brun, P USA 180 123 105 120 119 647 17
Bezschasny, V UKR 180 105 120 120 97 622 18
Puhuttka, R USA 180 180 97 0 120 577 19
Archer, Ryan (Junior) USA 114 102 111 108 120 555 20
Abad, J ESP 180 55 64 110 44 453 21

EVENT SIERRA CUP SCORING SHEET 2004
F1B
NAME COUNTRY 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total Place
Kolich, I YUG 180 180 120 120 120 306 1026 1
Maklin, J NZL 180 180 120 120 120 298 1018 2
Waltonen, Y FIN 180 180 120 120 120 251 971 3
Ruyter, P NED 180 180 120 120 120 227 947 4
Fitch, J USA 180 180 120 120 120 211 931 5
Blazhevych, Y UKR 180 180 120 120 120 190 910 6
Davis, M USA 180 180 120 120 120 184 904 7
Clapp, J USA 180 180 120 120 120 177 897 8
Morrell, R USA 180 180 120 100 120 700 9
Tymchek, B USA 180 154 120 120 120 694 10
Emery, J USA 163 180 120 89 120 672 11
Rohrke, R USA 180 180 94 0 0 454 12
Batuik, G USA 131 180 0 0 0 311 13

EVENT SIERRA CUP SCORING SHEET 2004
F1C
NAME COUNTRY 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total Place
Simpson, Roger USA 180 180 120 120 120 401 1121 1
Carroll, E USA 180 180 120 120 120 369 1089 2
Gutai, R USA 180 180 120 120 120 304 1024 3
Verbitsky, E UKR 180 180 120 120 120 290 1010 4
Screen, S GBR 180 180 120 120 120 285 1005 5
Ghio, W USA 180 180 120 120 120 268 988 6
Menano, G USA 180 180 120 120 120 258 978 7
Shirley, D USA 180 180 120 120 120 250 970 8
Happersett, K USA 180 180 120 120 120 241 961 9
Morris,G USA 180 180 120 0 0 480 10
Galbreath, D USA 180 180 0 0 0 360 11
Halliday, D USA 180 180 0 0 0 360 12



Lectronics for a Luddite
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Peter Allnutt is looking for the old stlye, analog, multi function
Ken Bauer F1A timers. These pre-datae the micro controller based
timers and are programmed in true luddit fashion, with a screw driver -
see Peter on the field or contact SEN

40 and still going strong
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in talking to said Peter this weekend - he qualified for the
Canadian Team for Argentina - 40 years after his
first World Champs - who can beat that ?

under 35 section
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F1B and 30 grams of rubber
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My original point which I obviously didn't make well enough is that modern
F1Bs with 30 grams of rubber Tan SS simply are not as exciting/spectacular
to fly as with 40 grams of Tan 2. Clearly this is partly due to the reduced
power available, but its also due to the power delivery characteristics of
Tan SS, it has a very pronounced "knee" at the conclusion of the burst
similar in fact to the old black/grey FAI. I started flying F1B because the
models are very elegant, and because they were exciting to fly. The fact
that performance is well above the max is almost irrelevant to me, nowadays
the models (well mine at least!!) simply do not get the adrenalin flowing.
I fully acknowledge that as the pinnacle of Free Flight the three major
classes (F1A, F1B, F1C) must be technically and practically challenging, but
I strongly believe that they should also be rewarding and must have a "Wow"
factor that separates them from the Open classes and Vintage etc
On a similar note I find it bizarre that in F1C people are happy to spend
hundreds of dollars to get a competitive motor which is a modern miracle of
design, metallurgy and manufacture and then stop it after 5 seconds!! But
that is opening up a can of worms that I don't want to be responsible for!!
Thermals
Bill Pudney
Adelaide, Australia


30 vs 35
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Roger,

I would like to weigh in on the 30g vs. 35g motor debate. I sense that this
"nostalgia desease" (thanks Hardy) for larger F1B motors is the result of
Tan II stockpiles depleting more than a concern about motor weight. I would
give the rubber manufacturer time to develop Tan Sport further. Look at the
long evolution of Tan and Tan II, which brought on the motor weight
reductions in the first place. I would bet that we will see torque reading
for Tan Sport that rival the best Tan II in one or two more team selection
cycles. Though we could quickly return to 35g, I suggest instead that we put
the dissapointing first round of the Finals out of our heads and take a
longer view of the current rubber situation.

How easily we forget the day when vintners and tire companies dictated the
quality of our rubber supply. John Clapp and the late Ed Dolby have spoiled
us.

Ross Jahnke



30 Grams
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30 Grams
The problem many overlook is that a reduction in motor weight compels folk
who like to build their own models, even if only components, to buy models
made in factories. This, coupled with a "Super Max" leads those who don't
want to buy a model to be un-competitive form the start of a contest.
I like performance. I always have. The higher, the better!
Bill




30g F1B's
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It's interesting to see all the discussions about the 30g rubber weight
in the current pre-post FAI Tan II days. It seems to me that the
discussion is somewhat off the track. Most people are talking about
whether their ship does 5 or 6 or 7 minutes in dead air or whether they
are faced with using Super Sport against someone else's hoarded stocks
of Tan II.

There's no doubt that SS is well down in practical performance compared
with Tan II. This is partly due to the 10-15% less overall energy and
partly due to the different shape of the energy release curve. However,
as I see it, the problem has little to do with the points I mentioned
above, but rather something more fundamental. That is the fact (an
undeniable fact) that we are losing fliers because they find the class
is no longer fun or has become too hard.

Now, before you super-motivated achievers start saying that if it's too
hard then they ought to play tiddleywinks, hear me out. These fliers
are not the hotshots at the top of the tree, who for the most part take
all rule changes in their stride. They are folks who make average
models and fill out the events, occasionally getting lucky with a place
or win. They often don't fly or buy the best models, they do it for
fun, which is their right. Unfortunately, if you had an average
right-left trimmed F1B which could do 3 1/2 minutes on Tan II, it's
starting to look pretty tired on SS.

Keep with me please, folks, while I paint a picture of wakefield in
Australia over the past 20 years.

Wakefield was declining in participation in this country in the 80's.
In our major events, F1A was always the most popular (as it is in many
places) but F1B was a long way behind. Then along came two events. The
first was the availability of good 'critical' hardware. Primarily I
mean commercial prop blades and hubs. The second was the advent of Tan
II.

In this period (from the early 90's on) we experienced nothing short of
a renaissance in F1B in Australia, with many fliers switching from
other classes, new people starting up and existing fliers being
revitalised. So much so that F1B comps started to show more competitors
than any of the other FAI classes.

When rubber weight was reduced from 40 to 35g it was of some concern
but most people coped with this change. However, when the FAI dictated
a 30g motor weight and at the same time increased the suggested first
round max to 5 minutes you could hear a collective groan. When Tan II
died at more or less the same time so did their hopes of doing well at
any decent competition. I know people who could (when it all went just
right) make the 3 1/2 minute max with 35g and then go on to have a
chance of maxing out. For these people, maxing out is a BIG thing.
These folks basically have NO hope of maxing out under the current
rules, so not surprisingly many have moved on to other things.

This is the crux of the biscuit folks. The grass roots fliers ARE Free
Flight. While we laud the 'gods' and some of us even aspire to their
heights, it will mean nothing if there is no-one left when we turn
around to look down from our lofty heights of 'achievement'.

I personally believe that the rubber weight should be increased by some
amount, 5 or 10g. If the price to pay is more performance by the top
end of town then so be it. Find another way to deal with the large
flyoff in that one contest every year. For the rest of the contests I
would like to see more people making the cut anyway. That WILL
encourage them to keep coming back.




Rubber Chronicles
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This is my thought on the quality of today's F1B rubber. I am a power
flyer,
but understand what folks are saying about competing with rubber that is
not as good as the stuff some flyers still have.
In F1C I cannot use nitro methane fuel, even though I have it. I think the
rule change we should be looking at is NO TAN II in F1B unless the event
director can supply the same for all contestants. This may not be easy to
control, but time itself will eliminate the amount of Tan II available,
while also reducing the affectivity of Tan II.
Roger C



F1 King ?
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To Jim and Klaus
Peter King

Just to set the record straight, in spite of what I said begore, I agree with
both Jim's and Klaus' remarks about F1B and will always do my best to be
competetive what ever the rules. That doesn't include retrograde ideas like
returning to a cross section rule, ROG etc that some of the Vintage oriented gu
ys
would like to see though. I am happy with the idea of rising to the challenge

of 30gms but also have a lot of sympathy with those who feel 35gms would
probably be about right with today's rubber. I must admit I do miss the awesom
e
performance of the old heated 40gm models even though they were becoming far to

good for the 3min max. However, I always have F1 grand Prix in mind when I
think of rule changes. It is amazing to see those guys have half their downfor
ce
removed or similar, increasing lap times by up to 2/3 secs and then watch as
the cars are developed during the season to end up going faster than the year

before!
FIA should be like that, the cutting edge of the hobby and as the F1 guys
say. Just give me the rules and I will still beat the rest of the teams. For a

bit of fun, can you imagine where we would be now if FAI, Bridgestone and
Michelin were developing rubber for us.. We would be using stuff giving out
10,000 ft/lbs/lb by now !! Anyone want to sponsor an F1B flyer to the tune
of
a few hundred million dollars a season? Bung in another $100,000,000 and I
could have my own dedicated wind tunnel working 24/7 and a simulation rig that

models every climatic condition at every major flying site, word wide. Don't
think that would go down very well with the bring back the BOM rule guys though

! Mind you F1 has it's own BOM rule, come to think of it. You have to
design and build your own car to comply with the FIA specs.
Peter King




F1B rubber weight
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Dear Roger,

I am not convinced by any of the arguments so far for a return to 35 or
40g of rubber
for F1B. Perhaps the models were more exciting and the fly-offs were
bigger with
more rubber, but that is hardly the point of the contest! The fly-off
has always been
the exception to the rule in FAI, and I have always had most enjoyment
from contests
where people are dropping time and the placings evolve over 7 flights.
With 40g, F1B
was becoming like the UK Open Rubber or US Mulvihill - The maxes were a
formality
and the real contest was the flyoff. This situation has led some to
believe that maxes
should be abandoned completely and we have a flyoff only! Why turn F1B
into a
more advanced form of Open Rubber?!

Even if rubber weight were to decrease still further, each competitor is
competing to the
same rules, thus the contest begins on an equal footing (notwithstanding
rubber quality)
and is perfectly 'respectable'. The introduction of motor heaters
merely meant that
everyone used a motor heater, thus cancelling any competitive advantage,
so they were
rightly banned. Anything that involves more time and expense with no
competitive
advantage i.e. buying and making-up large rubber motors, similarly makes
no sense.
The modern F1Bs are perfectly capable of 3 minutes, provided that the
air is not poor,
so what is the point of turning them into 6 and 7 minute missiles? If
the point of free
flight was thrills, we would all fly 10cc power models or model rockets.

Finally, I think that Phil Ball's idea of coloured rubber is perhaps
practically a bit tricky,
but in theory is a good idea for 'levelling the playing field' and
having a contest based
on model design/trimming and thermal detection skill.

All the best,

Peter Martin






Orange Books by Frank Zaic, SAM 35 Yearbook No. 9, 10
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Hello,
I came across your website while trying to find more seller/buyer info for
the "Yearbooks" by Frank Zaic...Do you happen to know of any buyers for
these books? I have inherited them, in a sense, and want them to go to
someone who will truly enjoy them..seems to be somewhat of an underground
legend type of series..no real access to sell them on Amazon or other online
book marketplaces.
Thanks for your time,

Angela



Southwest Regionals, Eloy, Arizona January 2005
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Make your travel plans now for the Southwest Regionals, 15-16-17 JAN 05 at
Eloy, Arizona!

Three contests - same weekend, same site:
AMA/SAM/NFFS Free Fllight
FAI Free Flight
SAM RC Old Timers
plus
MECA [Model Engine Collectors Assoc.] Collecto.

Check out reports of past SWRs with pics and results, plus a link to 2005
sign up info with maps, full event listings, accommodations, etc at:

www.aalmps.com/swrinto.htm

or, go direct to 2005 sign up at:

www.aalmps.com/05info.htm

We'd like to see YOU here!

AL
A. A. Lidberg model plan service
ff/rc kits and plans
www.aalmps.com


Canada Cup - Corrected
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Dear Roger,

There was a mistake in the previously published results of Canada Cup
2004 in F1A.
Here below is the corrected list. I have to talk to the contest
director. Probably the goulash was too strong for him or he dropped his
calculator in the soup.

Best regards,
Leslie


Canada Cup Sept. 4th - 5th. 2004

F1A
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 Total
1. C.Lenartowicz 180 180 237 180 180 140 180 95 180 150 150 150 2002
2. T.Tzvetkov 180 97 240 180 179 180 142 180 67 150 143 150 1888
3. V. Nikolajevas 180 180 220 69 180 180 124 180 180 123 95 150 1861
4. M. Levy (Jr) 180 180 204 180 180 180 60 180 180 112 134 71 1841
5. A. Schlosberg 180 132 240 180 141 180 151 85 106 136 110 150 1781
6. I. Fradkin 118 180 166 180 104 147 165 180 180 150 81 127 1778
7. R. Sifleet 180 180 240 156 180 180 180 134 93 26 150 77 1776
8. P. Allnutt 180 86 233 175 126 180 143 180 59 150 115 137 1764
9. J. Horak 180 180 64 177 180 180 119 95 180 150 86 130 1721
10. V. Sokolov 120 77 88 101 58 180 180 180 50 136 150 138 1458
11. L. Farkas 133 180 207 180 158 167 57 80 80 58 150 0 1450
12. K. Binns 56 180 132 145 53 180 180 43 107 146 0 0 1222
13. K Pecherskaya Jr. 0 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15

F1B
1. L. Horak 180 180 300 180 180 180 180 180 180 150 150 150 2190
2. R. Felix 180 180 282 180 180 180 180 180 180 150 124 150 2146
3. J. McGlashan 180 145 246 180 180 180 180 180 131 150 150 150 2052
4. T. Linkosalo 180 180 198 180 180 180 180 141 180 150 99 131 1979
5. T. Iorger 180 180 255 180 118 39 180 0 0 0 0 0 1234
6. D. Rowsell 0 0 0 0 0 180 0 156 0 0 0 0 336

F1C
1. R.Gutai 180 180 300 180 180 180 180 180 180 150 150 150 2190
2. E. Condon 180 180 300 180 180 180 180 147 180 150 113 150 2120
3. M.McMahon 180 173 204 180 150 111 180 180 180 150 150 150 1988
4. F. Schlachta 133 123 300 180 180 180 128 142 127 150 150 150 1943
5. R. Pecherski 0 24 0 87 82 139 120 130 131 134 132 96 1075
6. S. Arambasic 98 145 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 243

F1H
1. M. Levy Jr. 109 120 120 120 120 589
2. B. Sifleet 120 74 111 120 120 545
3. T. Linkosalo 120 120 0 120 120 480
4. P. Allnutt 0 0 0 0 0 0

F1G.
1. T. Iorger 120 120 45 0 0 285

F1J
1. B. Gutai 85 120 120 120 120 565

Leslie Farkas




20th Annual Autumn Cup
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Everyone is invited to the 20th Annual Autumn Cup, the first weekend of
November.



EVENT Autumn Cup (An American Cup and Texas Cup Contest)

DATE November 6-7, 2004

PLACE Seguin Texas, USAF Auxiliary Field (Gate opens at 7:00 AM)

Located on US 90 Alternate, approx. 1.5 miles east of Hwy 123 bypass



SPONSOR Tri-City Flyers MAC 830



CONTEST DIRECTOR Reid Simpson (903) 677-8525

115 Trailridge Dr.

Athens, TX 75751

E-mail (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.)



EVENTS Saturday

F1A, F1B, F1C, Open Gas, 7 one hour rounds, start - 9:00 AM

(No Super Max)

P-30, not flown by rounds



EVENTS Sunday

F1G, F1H, F1J, F1P, 5 one hour rounds, start 8:00 AM

NFFS Special event, (Starduster-X/Zero), must finish flights by end of
5th mini event round.



SOCIAL TIME A social time will be held at the El Ranchito
Restaurant at 7:30 Saturday evening.



AWARDS PRESENTATION

The awards for the Saturday events
will be presented at the social time if the events are finished, or else
at the end of the contest Sunday.



ENTRY FEES Open entries - 1 event $15.00, 2 or more $20.00

Sr. entries 1 event $ 7.00, 2 or more $10.00

Jr. entries no charge





SKY-SCRAPER ANNUAL this weekend - last weekend
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we pushed this because we got it - but too late to go out


Dear Free Flighters,

The weather forcasts for this weekend are considerably
improved from what was previously being reported.
Indeed, weather.com for Middlefield, NY reports no rain
for Saturday&Sunday, wind from 5 to 12 miles per hour,
coming from the Southwest Saturday (that is the long
direction of the field) and from the West Southwest on
Sunday. Temperatures are typical for fall, so have a
jacket. CD Dave Acton at the field reports that the
sod has grown nicely, and the Dean Ford corn is mostly
cut. Lois Ford corn is still up. Here again is the
schedule. Thermals, Andrew Barron

SKY-SCRAPER ANNUAL
America's Cup and National Cup
FAI, AMA, Nostalgia, SAM, FAC

October 16-17, 2004

Barron, Ford, and Shuback Fields
Wawayanda, New York

FAI EVENTS:

Saturday October 16:

F1G (small rubber), F1H (small glider), F1J (small power).
120 second maxes. America's Cup competition.
Round 1: 9:30-11:00am
Round 2: 10:30-12:00
Round 3: 11:30-1:00
Round 4: 12:30- 2:00pm
Round 5: 1:30- 3:00pm
Flyoffs: 3:15pm --
Mini-FAI Awards at end of rounds for events complete at that time.

F1A/B/C Informal mass launch fun-fly (time own flight to ground)
5:30pm, 6:00pm (weather permitting)

Sunday October 17:

FAI events: F1A (glider), F1B (wakefield), F1C/F1P** (power).
America's Cup competition.
Round 1: 7:15- 8:30am Super max*
Round 2: 8:00- 9:30am 180 sec max (weather permitting)
Round 3: 9:00-10:30am
Round 4: 10:00-11:30am
Round 5: 11:00-12:30
Round 6: 12:00-1:30pm
Round 7: 1:00-2:30pm
Plan for an additional hour in case of delays for moves.
Flyoffs begin 15 minutes after rounds end.

*Note that round 1 begins at 7:15 rather than 7am, to permit
sufficient light, but ends at 8:30 rather than later to reduce
thermal opportunities during super-max round. Super-max to be
announced before round in accordance with conditions -- up
to 240sec for F1A and F1B and 300 sec for F1C/F1P.
Rounds overlap to facilitate retrieval.

**Note that F1P will fly 7 rounds alongside F1C, with same max.
Full 10 second motor run permitted for F1P.

FAI director: Andrew Barron (203-248-5386, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.)
Assistant FAI Director: TBA.

FAI fliers enter at Skyscraper table with Dave Acton, then turn
in scores between each flight at the FAI table or golf cart.
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AMA, AMA CLASSIC, AND NOSTALGIA EVENTS

Saturday, October 16: 9:00am--5:00pm [Awards at 5:00pm].
Hand Launch Glider, ABC Nostalgia, ABC Classic, Mulvihill,
Nostalgia Rubber & Nostalgia Wakefield (combined).

Early Sunday:
Dawn Unlimited (Gather with Dave Acton at 7:10am for ground rules).
Launch window: 7:20-7:35am

Sunday, October 17: 8am to 3:30pm [Awards at 3:30pm].
Catapult Glider, 1/2 A Nostalgia, 1/2 A Classic Power,
P-30 Rubber, Pee-Wee 30 Power.

Overall Skyscraper Contest Director: Dave Acton (914-948-4234
and This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.) 89 N. Broadway, White Plains, NY 10603.
Assistant: TBA.

Open fliers pay $25 ($10 field use fee, plus $15 entry which covers
unlimited number of Skyscraper hosted AMA, NOS, and FAI events).
Juniors and Seniors pay $15 total ($10 field use plus $5 entry).

Awards: One wood trophy per sufficiently high finishing contestant.
Labeled plates which adhere to the trophy are awarded for each finish
in the top three in an event, and to best finishing Junior or Senior
in each event.

Dorothy Waddington trophy for best junior performance.
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SPECIAL EVENT (hosted by Wilber and Orville Society)
Saturday, October 16: A1&A2 Classic Towline
Five flights (9:00am-5:00pm), no rounds.
Pay field use fee at Skyscraper table.
Turn in scores to Art Ellis or his designate.
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FAC EVENTS (hosted by Skyscalers Club):

Saturday, October 16 (9am-5pm)

FAC Scale
Peanut Scale
Embryo
No-cal
Golden Age Scale (total of three flights)
FAC Old Time Gas Replica
Golden Age Racers Mass Launch (Greve & Thompson combined)
WWI Mass Launch (biplanes)

Sunday, October 17 (9am-3pm)

Jumbo Scale
Power Scale
Hi-Wing Peanut
Dime Scale
WWII Mass Launch
Modern Military Mass Launch
Flying Horde (any scale model)
Blur Race

FAC Event Director:
Tom Hallman 610-395-5656
FAC Assistant Director:
John Houck 610-488-6235
Show AMA membership, sign the Event Participation List,
and provide $15 which covers both days (including $10 field
use fee and $5 toward cost of trophies).
__________________________________________________________________

OLD TIMER EVENTS (Organized by SAM-7):

Sunday, October 17 (8am-3pm)

Pylon Gas (All classes combined)
Cabin Gas (All classes combined)
Rubber Stick
Rubber Cabin
Old-Time H.L.G. (Best 3 of 9 flights)

Engine Runs: (At CD Discretion)
Old Timer R.O.G. H.L.
Ignition 18 sec 14 sec
Conv.Ign. 14 10
CFS Glow 10 6

120 second maxes for all events.

Entry: $10 field use fee. No additional event fee.
Show AMA membership and sign the Event Participation List.
Certificate and applause for 1st and 2nd place winners.

FAC Event Director: John Stott
Address: Bradley Lane, Sandy Hook, CT 06482
Phone: 203-426-5190
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The field is on Orange County Route 12, in Wawayanda, six miles
southwest of Route 17M near Middletown, NY. Nearby airports include
Newburg, NY (30 min from field) or White Plains, NY; Hartford, CT;
LaGuardia, NY; Albany, NY; Newark, NJ; or Wilks-Barre-Scranton, PA
(all of which are less than 2 hours from the field).

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MOTORIZED VEHICHLES: Cars on farm roads, motorcycles on Dean
Ford Grass and at edge of each commercial strip of Barron Field sod
(within 3 or 4 feet of ditch, if ground is firm enough).
No motorized vehicles on the foot bridges. No motorized vehicles
in the corn fields and no motorized vehicles on the Lois Ford
fields and paths to the southwest.

Golf carts are permitted anywhere on commercial sod or
farm roads or grass areas, but not on foot bridges.
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Honda Key and the Finals
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Found outside shed #1 just before the Finals. A Honda key with rubber
handle and the number 697.
This is a BIG THANK YOU to ALL the people who worked so hard to conduct an
outstanding Finals competition!! Well done.
Paul Crowley




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Roger Morrell