SEN 742 - 24 Sep 2002

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SCAT Electronic News 24 September 2002 issue 742


Table of Contents
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US Team Selection for 2003
Stonehenge Cup results - Gregorie
Prop project - Segrave
Re: Supermax/Gregorie. - Bryant
Supermax - Ackery
Fuel Proof Paint - Mattes
Southwest FAI Challenge - Cancelled for 2002 - Zeisloft
Skyscraper Annual, Oct 19-20 - Barron
applying cap strips - Brooks


Thanks

US Team Selection for 2003 F1C
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Ed Keck
Gil Morris
Randy Archer



PLACE CONTESTANT NAME RND 1 RND 2 RND 3 RND 4 RND 5 RND 6 RND 7 RND 8 RND 9 RND 10 RND 11 RND 12 RND 13 RND 14 TOTAL
1 Keck, Ed 240 180 180 180 180 150 150 240 180 180 150 180 150 180 2520
2 Morris, Gil 240 180 180 180 180 150 150 240 180 180 150 180 150 180 2520
3 Archer, Randy 240 180 180 133 180 150 150 240 180 180 150 180 150 180 2473
4 Johannes, Bob 231 180 175 180 180 150 150 240 180 144 150 180 150 180 2470
5 Spence, Henry 240 180 180 180 180 150 150 240 180 180 150 117 150 175 2452
6 Parker, Faust 240 180 180 180 180 150 150 240 105 180 150 180 150 180 2445
7 Gutai, Bob 240 180 180 151 180 150 150 240 180 180 134 131 150 180 2426
8 Sifleet, Bob 240 180 180 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 780
9 Brodersen, Hardy 118 180 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 478
10 Chesson, Don 240 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 420
11 Kerger, Terry 240 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 240
12 Carroll, Ed 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
13 Gewain, Matt 0 o 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
14 Gunder, C. 0 o 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
15 McBurnett, Ron 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
16 Menanno, G. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
17 Simpson, Roger 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
18 Wagner, J. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


US Team Selection for 2003 F1B
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Bob Piserchio
Blake Jensen
Paul Crowley

PLACE CONTESTANT NAME RND 1 RND 2 RND 3 RND 4 RND 5 RND 6 RND 7 RND 8 RND 9 RND 10 RND 11 RND 12 RND 13 RND 14 TOTAL
1 Piserchio, Bob 210 180 173 180 163 180 180 210 180 180 180 180 106 150 2452
2 Jensen, Blake 210 180 180 159 139 180 180 210 180 180 180 180 138 150 2446
3 Crowley, Paul 210 180 127 180 180 180 180 210 180 164 180 180 150 139 2440
4 Sessums, John 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 210 180 180 99 180 150 150 2439
5 Andruikov, Alex 210 180 180 142 175 180 107 210 180 180 180 180 150 150 2404
6 Batiuk, George 210 180 180 180 78 180 180 210 180 180 180 180 122 150 2390
7 Morrel, Roger 210 180 180 180 52 180 116 210 180 180 180 180 150 150 2328
8 Hinson, Rex 210 180 109 180 180 180 120 210 180 180 141 180 136 107 2293
9 Wood, Dick 210 180 180 180 180 180 180 210 150 180 113 180 150 0 2273
10 Shailor, Bill 210 180 169 180 180 137 180 210 180 127 180 180 122 0 2235
11 Wiley, E. 180 180 153 180 108 112 180 210 18 180 180 180 136 141 2138
12 Tracy, Dan 210 98 180 130 90 96 180 210 180 109 180 180 137 150 2130
13 Simon, G. 210 180 178 180 180 180 99 210 180 111 133 150 0 0 1991
14 Nippert, Vic 165 150 150 180 105 180 82 210 122 180 86 61 0 0 1671
15 Ghio, Walt 210 180 180 129 180 63 125 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1067
16 Rohrke, Rich 192 180 180 180 180 61 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 973
17 Peck, J. 172 0 180 180 76 180 0 0 180 0 0 0 0 0 968
18 Lacey, D. 111 105 115 95 82 180 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 868
19 Fitch, Jerry 210 180 180 167 108 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 845
20 Felix, Ron 210 180 180 90 104 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 764
21 Ioerger, Tom 210 20 174 180 151 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 735
22 Miller, Blaine 210 180 180 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 575
23 Booth, Bill 185 180 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 545
24 Clapp, John 210 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 390
25 Joyner, Louis 210 38 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 248


US Team Selection for 2003 F1C
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Jon Davis
Brian Van Nest
Steve Spence

PLACE CONTESTANT NAME RND 1 RND 2RND 3RND 4RND 5RND 6RND 7RND 8RND 9RND 10 RND 11 RND 12 RND 13 RND 14 TOTAL
1 Davis, Jon 196 180 180 150 150 150 0 210 137 180 180 150 150 150 2163
2 Van Nest, Brian 210 144 180 150 94 150 0 210 180 180 180 150 150 150 2128
3 Spence, Steve 210 180 180 150 95 87 0 210 159 180 180 150 150 139 2070
4 Erguner, Omer 210 93 122 150 150 150 0 210 180 180 180 150 70 150 1995
5 Sifleet, Bob 210 180 58 150 150 150 0 210 180 180 167 90 121 147 1993
6 Cowley, Martyn 170 180 94 150 150 150 0 210 180 180 131 150 96 150 1991
7 Parker, Jim 210 180 129 150 150 150 0 203 172 180 180 128 150 0 1982
8 Barron, Andrew 210 180 180 150 150 150 0 210 180 99 19 147 150 120 1945
9 Fedor, Mike 168 180 110 150 150 150 0 172 131 180 180 150 124 90 1935
10 Markos, Chuck 210 151 95 150 150 116 0 210 180 180 180 65 113 82 1882
11 Tzvetkov, T. 189 129 180 125 150 113 0 210 180 139 126 94 150 94 1879
12 Schlosberg, A. 91 123 109 104 95 130 0 210 180 180 180 150 150 150 1852
13 Zink, Don 210 135 85 150 111 150 0 210 180 180 75 150 150 65 1851
14 Brun, Pierre 210 180 75 150 57 78 0 210 180 180 129 150 124 116 1839
15 Hines, Lee 210 180 180 63 93 150 0 44 180 180 180 144 108 109 1821
16 Diez, Hector 141 180 180 150 150 150 0 199 180 26 154 135 100 0 1745
17 Busnelli, Ernesto 210 130 86 135 150 150 0 210 180 136 33 86 90 101 1697
18 Bradley, Jim 210 134 180 2 0 0 0 168 180 180 0 0 0 0 1054
19 McKeever, Mike 210 78 180 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 489
20 Parker, Dallas 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0





Stonehenge Cup results
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After a fine week the contest was run at Sculthorpe in cool (15-20C),
breezy (3.5-4.5 m/sec) conditions under a solid overcast on both
days. Conditions were dry except for rounds 5 and 6 in F1B/C. The
breeze was a little less on F1A day and the thermals were somewhat
larger and more powerful. Sculthorpe is an inactive airfield in east
Anglia. It is approximately triangular and measures almost 3 Km
across the base by 2 Km from base to apex. The wind direction on both
days gave us almost 2.5 Km of retrieval space on the airfield; very
few flights ended off the field during the rounds.

The attached file contains the complete results from the Stonehenge
Cup, run on the 14th and 15th of September, 2002.


Regards,
Martin Gregorie




Event F1A : FAI Glider

No Contestant Rounds Flyoff T
otal

1 157 J. WILLIAMS BRITISH 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 319 1699
2 170 B. NYHEGN DENMARK 180 180 180 180 180 180 300 212 1592
3 173 F. HOLMANN GERMANY 180 180 180 180 180 180 129 1209
4 047 M. FANTHAM BRITISH 180 180 180 180 180 180 98 1178
5 030 W. COLLEDGE BRITISH 149 180 180 180 180 180 1049
6 024 P.A. CHAMBERLAIN BRITISH 180 180 145 180 180 178 1043
7 145 T. VAN ELDIK NEDERLANDS 136 180 180 180 180 180 1036
8 115 S. RUMPP GERMANY 174 180 135 180 180 180 1029
9 175 M. KOSONOZKIN RUSSIA 180 164 140 180 180 180 1024
10 001 G. ARINGER AUSTRIA 180 180 180 180 121 160 1001
11 164 R. HELLGREN SWEDEN 180 132 180 145 180 180 997
12 067 J. HOWICK BRITISH 180 180 180 180 90 180 990
13 142 M. VAN DIJK NEDERLANDS 180 180 173 123 180 148 984
14 103 D.J. OLDFIELD BRITISH 180 180 180 114 180 149 983
15 039 P. DE BOER NEDERLANDS 180 180 81 180 180 180 981
16 037 M. CUTHBERT (J) BRITISH 142 180 180 117 180 180 979
17 043 C.H. EDGE SCOTTISH 80 180 161 69 180 180 950
18 158 P. WILLIAMS BRITISH 32 180 155 180 180 121 948
19 174 B. TRACHEZ FRANCE 80 124 160 180 121 180 945
20 106 G. PECK BRITISH 180 101 180 104 180 180 925
21 049 P. FINDAHL SWEDEN 180 92 180 180 112 180 924
22 015 C. BREEMAN BELGIUM 180 180 180 176 85 115 916
23 038 S. DARMON BRITISH 180 86 180 180 180 98 904
24 056 M.C. GREGORIE NEW ZEALAND 180 180 71 180 180 98 889
25 019 J.E. CARTER BRITISH 139 180 105 180 180 63 847
26 168 D. FINDAHL (J) SWEDEN 179 180 77 133 180 87 836
27 166 A. KLEMETSEN NORWAY 131 180 77 180 180 85 833
28 100 R.T. NICHOLSON BRITISH 180 180 139 72 165 71 807
29 006 A.D. BALL BRITISH 123 180 104 180 180 21 788
29 022 A.D. CHAMBERLAIN BRITISH 154 180 136 180 61 77 788
31 169 J.E. OULDS BRITISH 112 109 180 180 180 761
32 127 I. STEFFENSEN NORWAY 34 140 154 180 93 141 742
33 008 D. BARTLE BRITISH 113 180 82 88 150 101 714
34 112 M.B. RIGGS BRITISH 167 122 91 78 96 102 656
35 041 M. DILLY BRITISH 21 180 85 69 169 75 599
36 069 A.G. JACK BRITISH 141 63 147 175 0 67 593
37 099 B. NICHOLSON BRITISH 74 86 67 170 99 60 556
38 167 O. FINDAHL (J) SWEDEN 3 25 86 102 92 308
39 137 P. TRIBE BRITISH 63 7 32 116 218
40 007 P.A. BALL BRITISH 73 113 186
41 031 M. COOK BRITISH 180 180

Event F1B : Wakefield

No Contestant Rounds Flyoff T
otal

1 125 J.B. SPOONER BRITISH 180 180 180 180 180 180 235 1315
2 117 P. RUYTER NEDERLA 180 180 180 180 180 180 221 1301
3 107 B.R. PEERS BRITISH 180 180 180 180 180 180 175 1255
4 152 I. VIVCHAR UKRAINE 180 180 180 180 180 165 1065
5 070 R. JONES BRITISH 180 150 180 180 180 180 1050
5 076 I. KOLIC YUGOSLAVIA 180 180 180 180 180 150 1050
7 162 M. WOOLNER BRITISH 180 137 180 180 180 180 1037
8 023 K.E. CHAMBERLAIN BRITISH 120 166 180 180 180 180 1006
9 055 D. GREAVES BRITISH 180 180 180 180 146 127 993
10 143 T. VAN EEDE NEDERLA 135 165 180 180 150 180 990
11 160 M. WOODHOUSE BRITISH 180 180 107 180 180 162 989
12 011 J. BILLAM BRITISH 180 180 170 180 89 167 966
13 087 B.G. MARTIN BRITISH 180 180 180 180 135 109 964
14 092 H. MEUSBERGER AUSTRIA 180 180 180 145 125 148 958
15 051 J. FLYNN BRITISH 109 135 180 160 180 170 934
16 172 R. LUCASEN NEDERLA 169 180 134 98 180 164 925
17 146 H. VAN HOORN NEDERLA 180 180 50 180 180 154 924
18 060 B.L. HALFORD BRITISH 135 126 180 165 180 113 899
19 046 M. EVATT BRITISH 180 138 164 95 120 147 844
20 088 P. MARTIN BRITISH 132 180 180 135 180 807
21 112 M.B. RIGGS BRITISH 105 112 178 107 76 578
22 010 K. BEST AUSTRAL 120 46 163 107 38 97 571
23 057 V. GREIMEL AUSTRIA 9 111 122 140 180 562
24 131 G. STRINGER BRITISH 155 163 318
25 002 B. ASLETT BRITISH 180 94 274
26 098 R.W. NEW BRITISH 180 180
26 156 C. WESTERMAN BRITISH 54 61 65 180
28 165 D. BILLAM (J) BRITISH 124 3 127
29 064 M. HOFFMANN GERMANY 33 33
30 068 M. HOWICK BRITISH 4 4

Event F1C : FAI Power

No Contestant Rounds Flyoff T
otal

1 119 S. SCREEN BRITISH 180 180 174 180 180 153 1047
2 155 P. WATSON BRITISH 180 151 169 180 180 180 1040
3 139 R. TRUPPE AUSTRIA 180 180 180 180 139 145 1004
4 116 F.A. RUSHBY BRITISH 115 180 168 180 180 180 1003
5 048 K.A. FAUX BRITISH 180 157 180 180 175 123 995
6 004 R. BAGGOTT BRITISH 159 180 180 133 180 161 993
7 007 P.A. BALL BRITISH 180 180 180 180 176 61 957
8 061 P.R. HARRIS BRITISH 120 180 169 180 123 180 952
9 069 A.G. JACK BRITISH 129 59 180 180 180 180 908
10 026 P. CHAPMAN BRITISH 180 180 180 180 180 900
11 128 H. STETZ GERMANY 180 180 180 164 46 750
12 036 J. CUTHBERT BRITISH 180 180 180 122 662
13 114 P. ROWLEDGE BRITISH 27 158 180 126 491
14 001 G. ARINGER AUSTRIA 180 180 11 371






Prop project
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Roger,
I have tried to reach Adam Smerdesman at : This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. but the
computer tells me that it cannot find this. Later correspondence told me
that the address is: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. So I tried that but the machine
keeps rejecting it. That's because it continues to recognise the address as
:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. I have sent my message five times now but they are all
rejected.Has anyone else tried this address?

Regards

Mike S



Re: Supermax/Gregorie.
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Re: Supermax/Gregorie. Yeah, it's a perennial
nightmare, computers at FF contests, isn't it? Funny,
the only time in the UK I've seen a computer used to
monitor scores it was a complete screw-up. What's
wrong with a couple of felt-tip pens and common sense?

Graham Bryant.



Supermax
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If people want to get rid of the Supermax, the best way is not to hope that it
will happen.
The best way is for a country to formaly put a remit forward to the CIAM meeti
ing.


That way
- you know it will be on the agenda,
- you know that it will be disussed and voted on
- people will have advance warning, and can advise their reprentitives how to
vote.

cheers
David Ackery
New Zealand



Fuel Proof Paint
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There is no really fuel proof paint that does not use a activator or
catalyst. Due to the lack of epoxy paints I am using a Dupont product,
NASON 496-00 Clearcoat and 483-78 Clearcoat activator. You need to
spray it on, no thinning, and it provides a fuel proof surface that is
superb in both appearance and durability. It will stand up to 100%
nitro with no problem. You can apply it over most anything, nitrate,
aerogloss, enamel, etc. It sets up dry to the touch in less than an
hour. There are other similar products with Imron being one. Problem
with these activated materials is that they are very toxic and should
only be used outdoors spraying down-wind while wearing a respirator.
They can be obtained at an auto paint store.

They also have pigmented products that are activated but you need to use
the clearcoat over the top so there is no advantage in their use. Cost
for the clear coat is rather high at about $40 per quart including
activator. I have been using it for over two years with no
deterioration noted even on high nitro AMA Power models. It is good
stuff and available - maybe not in California.


Bob Mattes



Southwest FAI Challenge - Cancelled for 2002
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Fellow modelers,

It is with regret that I must cancel the 2002 Southwest FAI Challenge.
My schedule has been overcome by numerous events beyond my control.

My sincere thanks for your support over the years, and I hope to see you
at the Southwest FAI Challenge in 2003.

[ Roger and Alan - please post this cancellation on the on the SEN and
the NFFS web site respectively, for the benefit of all who may have been
planning to participate this year. Thanks.]

Jon Zeisloft



Skyscraper Annual, Oct 19-20
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Dear Free Flighters,

This is the announcement of the Skyscraper Annual, October
19-20 at Barron Field, for FAI, AMA, and Nostalgia free flight,
held in conjunction with the Skyscalers for FAC and SAM-7 for
Old-timer. Note, for those who received the earlier draft,
the schedule has indeed been adjusted here to account for
the daylight hours. (We moved the flying periods a half hour earlier
on the 19th). Thanks to Art Ellis and others who looked it up, we
know for Oct 19 that morning civil twilight begins at 6:46 am
and sunrise at 7:14 am and that sunset is at 6:11 pm followed
by the end of civil twilight at 6:39pm.

We will have access to fields on both sides of the river/canal.

Hope to see many of you there!

Thermals,
Andrew Barron
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SKYSCRAPERS ANNUAL
America's Cup and National Cup
FAI, AMA, Nostalgia, SAM, FAC

October 19-20, 2002

Barron, Ford, and Shuback Fields
Wawayanda, New York

FAI EVENTS:

Saturday October 19:

Mini-FAI events: F1G (rubber), F1H (glider), F1J (power).
2 min maxes.
Round 1: 8:30-10:00am
Round 2: 9:30-11:00am
Round 3: 10:30-12:00
Round 4: 11:30- 1:00pm
Round 5: 12:30- 2:00pm
Flyoffs: 2:10pm --
Awards at 3:30pm for events that are complete at that time.

Big-FAI events: F1A (glider), F1B (wakefield), F1C (power).
Saturday Evening:
Round 1: 4:30-6:00pm 180 sec max
Round 2: 5:30-6:30pm Super max*
Sunday Morning October 20:
Round 3: 7:00- 8:00am Super max*
Round 4: 8:00- 9:30am 180 sec max
Round 5: 9:00-10:30am
Round 6: 10:00-11:30am
Round 7: 11:00-12:30

*Rounds 2 and 3 are bonus time rounds, weather permitting.
Times over 180 seconds (up to 240 sec) count as preliminary
flyoff times for those who otherwise max on all seven rounds.
Those two rounds are reduced to one hour to avoid variation in
conditions.

FAI directors: Andrew Barron (203-248-5386, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.)
and _______________.
FAI fliers enter at Skyscraper table with Dave Acton, then turn
in scores between each flight at the FAI table.
___________________________________________________________________
AMA, AMA CLASSIC, AND NOSTALGIA EVENTS

Saturday May 25: 8:30am--3:45pm [Awards at 3:45pm].
1/2 A GAS, Hand Launch Glider, ABC Nostalgia, ABC Classic;
Mulvihill, Nostalgia Rubber & Nostalgia Wakefield (combined).

Early Sunday: 7:15-7:30am
Dawn Unlimited.

Sunday May 26: 8am to 3:30pm [Awards at 3:30pm].
ABC GAS, Catapult Glider, 1/2 A Nostalgia, 1/2 A Classic Power,
P-30 Rubber, Pee-Wee 30 Power.

Overall Skyscraper Contest Director: Dave Acton (914-948-4234)
89 N. Broadway, White Plains, NY 10603. Assistant: Alan Abriss
(This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.).

Entry for AMA, NOS, and FAI: $12 for first event, 4 dollars each for
additional events. Maximum of $20 per person. Juniors and Seniors
are 1/2 price. Trophies through third place. High time recognition
to best finishing Junior or Senior in each event flown. Dorothy
Waddington Trophy to best junior performance.

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FAC EVENTS (hosted by Skyscalers Club):

Saturday, October 19 (8am-5pm)

FAC Scale
Peanut Scale
Embryo
No-cal
FAC Old Time Gas Replica
Golden Age Racers Mass Launch (Greve & Thompson combined)
WWI Mass Launch (biplanes)

Sunday, October 20 (8am-3pm)

Jumbo Scale
Power Scale
Hi-Wing Peanut
Golden Age Scale (total of three flights)
Dime Scale (total of three flights)
WWII Mass Launch
Modern Military Mass Launch
Flying Horde (any scale model)
Harvey Wallbanger Award

FAC Event Directors: Tom Hallman 610-395-5656, John Houck
610-488-6235. Show AMA membership, sign the Event Participation
List, and provide $10.00 entry fee which covers both days.
__________________________________________________________________

Old Timer Events (Organized by SAM-7)

Sunday, October 20 (8am-3pm)

Pylon Gas (All classes combined)
Cabin Gas (All classes combined)
.02 Replica Pylon/Cabin
Antique Gas (per SAM rules)
Jimmy Allen (R.O.G. ?)
Rubber Stick (Combined)
Rubber Cabin (R.O.G. ?)
Flying Scale Rubber.
Old-Time H.L.G. Best 3 of 9 flights
Old-Time Catapult Glider (from either catapult)
Old-Time Towline (164' line)
Baby R.O.G. Mass Launch (at 12:00 ?)
Twin Pusher Mass Launch (at 10:30am ?).

Engine Runs: (At CD Discretion)
Old Timer R.O.G. H.L.
Ignition 18 sec 14 sec
Conv.Ign. 14 10
CFS Glow 10 06

.02 Replica
Cabin 12 09
Pylon 09 07

Antique 30 20

120 second maxes for all events (except mass launches).

Entry Fee $5 total. May enter up to 4 events plus mass launches.
Certificate Awards for 1st and 2nd place winners.

FAC Event Directors: John Stott and Bradley Lane
Sandy Hook, CT 06482
Phone 203-426-5190
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The field is on Orange County Route 12, in Wawayanda, six miles
south of Route 17M near Middletown, NY. Nearby airports include
Newburg, NY (30 min from field) or White Plains, NY; Hartford, CT;
LaGuardia, NY; Albany, NY; Newark, NJ; or Wilks-Barre Scranton, PA
(all of which are less than 2 hours from the field).

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MOTORIZED VEHICHLES: In accordance with the renewed lease agreement
between Barron Field, LLC (owner) and Shuback Farms, Inc (leasee),
at sanctioned contests on Barron Field, participants are now
permitted to drive MOTORCYCLES with caution, and at their own risk,
on the edge of each strip of sod (i.e. on the sod within 3 or 4 feet
of each ditch) for purposes of model retrieval, but not drive in
toward the middle of a strip (so as to not harm the sod that will
be harvested).

Automobiles and motorcyles are permitted on farm roads,
adjacent to farm roads, and on designated grass areas, but not
on commercial sod (except as noted above) and not on foot bridges.

Golf carts are permitted anywhere on commercial sod or farm roads
or grass areas, but not on foot bridges.
__________________________________________________________________
DIRECTIONS:

*From New York city, take I-87 to Highway 17 to exit 123 (labeled
Middletown), west on 17M for 3.5 miles, to Orange County Route 12
(at the New Hampton, Town of Wawayanda sign), then turn left, heading
south 6.3 miles. After Gardnersville Road, the Barron and Ford
fields are on the left at the Grain Silo-- drive onto the Barron
farm road to pass through the corn field. The sod farm is 3/4 mile
ahead. [This takes about one hour from the Tappan Zee bridge.]

*From New England and from upper New York, take I-84 to exit 3,
Rt. 17M, go east 1.5 miles, then south (right) on County. Rt. 12
for 6.3 miles. Field is on the left. [About thirty minutes from
Newburg.]

*From Western New York take Route 17 to I-84, south 3 miles to
exit 3, Route 17M, go east 1.5 miles, then south on County. Rt. 12
for 6.3 miles. Field is on the left.

*From Pennsylvania and points south, take I-84 to exit 2, turn left
off the ramp and then go one mile to the northeast on Route 6, turn
right at the sign pointing toward Pine Island (onto County Route 1),
go six miles east on County Route 1 (through Westtown), then veer
left at the sign for New Hampton onto County Route 12. Go one mile
north on County Route 12. The field is on the right at the Grain
Silo. Drive in on Barron Farm road 3/4 mile to go past the corn to
the sod-farm.

Check the following web sites for maps and other relevant matters.

http://home.earthlink.net/~rlipori/barron.html
http://www.skyscrapers.org
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HOTELS:

Days Inn on 17M in Middletown, exit 3, east, off I-84.
845-374-2411.
Price approximately $70. Good quality. Closest to the field.

Global Budget Inn of America on 17M, also exit 3 off I-84.
845-374-3020.
Price between $50 - $60. Reasonable quality, though credit card
does not guarantee room with late arrival.

Holiday Inn at exit 4, east, off I-84, exit 122 off Highway 17.
845-343-1474.
Price approximately $90.

Hampton Inn at exit 4, east, off I-84, exit 122 off Highway 17.
845-343-3400.

Super 8 at exit 120 off Highway 17 (exit 4, west, off I-84).
845-692-5828.

Middletown Motel on Rt. 211, exit 120 off HWY 17 (exit 4 off I-84).
845-342-2535.
Price approximately $70.

Howard Johnsons Motel, Rt. 211, exit 120 off HWY 17.

There are also several Hotels at exits off I-84 to the
southwest (Port Jervis, exit 1) and northeast (Walden, exit 5),
each about 30 minutes from the field.

Plus a bed and breakfast in Warwick (at the intersection
of Route 1 and Route 94).

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applying cap strips
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I'm trying to save some weight on the new F1B. I've usually stuck the cap =
strips down with CA, but I have trouble getting just the right amount on, =
usually I wind up with too much glue, and weight. I once tried epoxy, but =
even after I wiped the carbon with acetone, they still did'nt bond very =
well, I was able to peel them off with minimal effort.
What adhesive should I use/how do I apply just the right amount to the =
cap?
Thanks
Jim.






Thanks
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Thanks to Walt Rozelle and Paul and Peggy Crowley for thier donations in
support of SEN

................
Roger Morrell