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 News and Reports 2003
 News and Reports 2003
 SCAT Electronic News 30 Dec 2003 issue 842
Table of Contents
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desert challenge - Norton
Patra Available - Dana
The Isaacson Winter Classic - Furutani
Jap tissue grain - Segrave
How to send to  SCAT Electronic News
F1A models available - Bolgov
Arizona FF Champs FAI Report - Nelson
What? No grain in Esaki tissue? - Clemens
recommending on Baby AL
fuze engine - Shirley
desert challenge
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Roger,
Would you be kind enough to post a reminder that the Desert Challenge is 
this weekend, Jan 3 - 4.  Four rounds on Saturday, starting at 1200, and 
three rounds on Sunday, starting at 800. Fire Marshall Allnutt assures 
me that all  is in readiness, and yes, ladies, we have a portapotty. 
Thank you,
Bob Norton
Patra Available
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Hi~! My Name Is John G. Dana, And I Work For Village Hobby In Austin, Texas.
We Have A Large Amount Of Pactra 'aero-Gloss' In 1 Oz. Bottles; Many Are
Discontinued Colors, Including Some Metallics. Amounts Range From Boxes Of 12
To Cases Of 144 Bottles. If Interested, Please Inquire  Or
Cost $.60 Per Bottle, 12 Minimum; E-Mail For List Of
Colors. Thanks, And A Happy Holiday! =
John G. Dana
C/O Village Hobby
2700 West Anderson Lane Ste. 402
Austin, Texas 78757
Please Post If Possible! Thanks!!
The Isaacson Winter Classic
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The Isaacson Winter Classic
We invite all of you to the first Lost Hills contest of the year!
This is a week before the World Cup, Maxmen International. Many flyers stay
the entire week. This may also be the only F1E (FF slope soaring) event
held in the USA! In addition to the FAI events, there will be Gollywock,
P-30, catapult glider (it's back!) and Nostalgia Wakefield.
- Norm Furutani and Roger Morrell
THE ISAACSON WINTER CLASSIC
February 7 - 9, 2004 at Lost Hills, California
Saturday, February 7
F1A, F1B & F1C
Round 1, 8:00am!
Round Schedule:
1            8:00am-9:00am
2            9:00am-10:00am
3            10:00am-11:00am
4            11:00am-12:00am
5            12:00am-1:00pm
6            1:00pm-2:00pm
7            2:00pm-3:00pm
Round One Maxes:
F1A     210 seconds
F1B     240 seconds
F1C     240 seconds
Fly-Off Schedule:
Round eight, 5 minute max.
F1A            3:30pm-3:40pm
F1B            3:45pm-3:55pm
F1C            4:00pm-4:10pm
Additional rounds to be announced
Saturday, Special Event:
Gollywocks!
Five, 3 min. max. 8:00am-3:00pm
Sorry!
Due to overwhelming popularity, we are no longer able to offer the Burger
BBQ! We can still join together and potluck Saturday night!
Sunday, February 9
"Mini" Events
Round one, 8:00am!
F1G (Coupe D' Hiver)
F1H (A-1)
F1J (1/2 A power)
Round Schedule:
All events two minute max.
1            8:00am-8:45am
2            8:45am-9:30am
3            9:30am-10:15am
4            10:15am-11:00am
5            11:00am-11:45am
Fly-Off Schedule:
12:00am-12:10pm, 4 minute max
Additional rounds to be announced
Sunday, Special Events:
8:00am - 1:00pm
P - 30 and Catapult Glider
AMA rules.
Nostalgia Wakefield
3 - three minute maxes. Must weigh 8 oz. inc. rubber.
Bob White, event director
Monday, February 10
 F1E Slope Soaring
12 noon -  5:30pm
What could be the ONLY, USA F1E contest will be held on Monday. Five rounds,
45 minutes each, starting at 12 noon. Event director - Peter Brocks.
Entry Fee:
F1A, B and C, $10.00 each event. All others $5.00 each event.
(Must be current member AMA, MAAC or AMA Affiliate. Also Lost Hills Assoc.
member)
Awards:
Jr.-Sr. Open Class combined.
Saturday, First through third, each event.
Sunday, First through third, each event.
Perpetual Gollywock and Nos. Wake awards, courtesy of Bob White
General:
AMA rules except as indicated. This is a time one, fly one contest!
Contest Directors:
Norm Furutani
15423 Haas Ave.
Gardena, CA 90249
(310) 323-1943
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Roger Morrell
1916 B Gates Ave.
Redondo Beach, CA 90278
(310) 374-2136
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In memory of
our dear friends,
Bob and LaVera Isaacson
Jap tissue grain
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I was interetsed in the various comments on the grain of Jap tissue. My 
usual procedure is to the take hold of the sheet at one corner  and try to 
tear it down one side. If it tears easily ,then the grain is parallel to the 
tear. Conversely, if you try to tear it at 90 degrees to the first try on 
the same sheet, you will find it very difficult to get a clean tear, the 
actual tear zig-zagging along. This is what I have been doing all through 
the years. Even the current Jap from Mike Woodhouse, the only source that I 
use at present, can be treated  and reacts in this way.
On the second point, I agree, the gloss side up is the best.
Regards
Mike S
How to send to  SCAT Electronic News
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Hello,
I can't seen to figure out how to send stuff to the SCAT Electronic news.
I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction?
I have info about Aeromodeling in central Florida, Palm Bay, King Orange,
ect.
Charlie Hendrickson
Melbourne, Fl.
[Charlie and others
mail it to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
]
F1A models available
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Hello,Merry Chrismas and Happy New Year !! 
    I manufacture and sell class models F1A.
  Models of sufficiently high quality and level under comparatively nonhigh
 price.
  More detailed information possible to hear www.bolgov.arziz.uptel.net
     If you this interests write me.
 
             Vyacheslav Bolgov.
 
 
Arizona FF Champs FAI Report
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Arizona Free Flight Champs, Eloy, AZ  
The Arizona FF Champs held December 6 &7 got off to a brisk start on Saturday 
morning with winds that were considerably stronger than normal. Round one 
drift became severe about half way thru the round. Round two was limited to two 
minutes. Thereafter, regular three minute rounds continued. The America's Cup 
designation helped draw several people from considerable distances as you can 
see by the names in the report below. Sunday saw better conditions, but the 
fly-off rounds were delayed for about two hours because of sudden, severe winds. 
The coupe fly-off will be held on January 15th prior to the SWR.
F1C                  1  2   3   4   5   6   7   8    Total 
    Faust Parker    180 120 180 180 180 180 180      1,200 
    Ed Carroll      180 120 167 180 180 180 180      1,187 
                                           
F1J                                     
    Austin Gunder   120 120 120 120 120 240          840 
    Ed Carroll      120 120 120 120 120 137          737 
    Faust Parker    120 120 120 120 120              600 
                        
F1A                                     
    Andrew Barron   180 120 180 180 180 180 180 291  1,491 
    Dean Clark      180 120 180 180 180 180 180 200  1,400 
    Lee Hines       180 120 180 180 180 180 180 187  1,387 
    Mike McKeever   180 120 180 180 180 180 180 177  1,377 
    Jim Parker        180 103   180 180 180 180 180      1,183 
    Pierre Brun       159   120 180 180 180 180 180      1,179 
    Peter Barron    180 120 180 142 180 180 180      1,162 
    Peter Brocks    180 120 180 106 180 180 180      1,126 
    Brian Van Nest  180 120 143 180 142 180 180      1,125 
    Norm Smith        180   120 180 122 17  180 180      979 
F1H
       Mike McKeever    120 120 120 120 120 180 186      966 
       Brian VanNest    120 120 120 120 120 180 175      955 
       Ryan Archer (JR) 120 120  120 120 120 151          751 
       Jim Farmer       120 120 120 120 120              600 
       Lee Hines        120 120 120 120 120              600 
       Jim Parker       120 120 120 120 120              600 
       Norm Smith       120 120 120 81  120              561 
       Sam Farmer (JR)  120 45  120 120 120              525 
       Pierre Brun        0 120 120 120 81               441 
       Andrew Barron    120 120 120 DNF DNF      360 
       Billy Farmer (JR)    0   0   0   0   0                -   
                                        
    
F1B                                     
    Jack Emery      180 120 180 180 180 180 180      1,200 
    Charlie Jones   154 120 159 180 180 180 180      1,153 
    Dick Wood       180 120 180 81  180 180 180      1,101 
    Elmer Nelson    177 120 139 112 180 180 180      1,088 
F1G                                     
    Dick Wood       120 120 120 120 120              600 
    Jack Emery      120 120 120 120 120              600 
    Peter Brocks    120 120 120 120 120              600 
    Alex Rodgers    120 120 120 115 120              595 
    John Clapp      120 120 120 120 73               553 
    Charlie Jones   80  120 106 120 120              546 
    Elmer Nelson    120 120 77  65  DNF          382 
Come fly with us at the upcoming Southwest Regionals, January 17, 18, 2004.
Elmer Nelson
What? No grain in Esaki tissue?
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George Shroedter told us:
"Someone here recently mentioned that one should pay attention to the grain
of Japanese tissue. I don't know what
tissue he was referring to, but having imported many thousands of sheets of
Esaki tissue from Japan during the 18 years I ran Champion Model Products, I
can say with certainty that Esaki tissue is a multi-layer tissue. As a
result, it has NO grain."
With all due respect, George, you could have fooled me, as well as a bunch
of guys from the Free Flight Mailing List, all of whom a firm believers in
Esaki grain. I've found the grain in every sheet (including Sig) I've used
over the past few decades by tearing near the edge of the sheet along one
dimension, then the other. One way will tear in a straight line. That's the
grain direction. Tear at 90 degrees to this line and the tear will be ragged
and irregular. That's cross grain. If there was no grain, both tears would
both be either ragged or straight.
Hank Sperzel, who many of you know, had this to say on the FFML:
"Bob, I have some of the old Champion Model Products Esaki tissue and some
of the new. I concur with you. ALL the sheets have grain that you can see if
held up to the light."
Bob Clemens
Rochester, NY
recommending on Baby AL
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Hi all,
This year I have reached into the Israeli national junior team and thinking
about buying a short model.
I am very confused about which wing is the best and maybe some one can
assist me.
Vasily's model, the Baby AL seems to me as the best choice right now.
Still, I am not sure at all which model is the best for me.
If any one can recommend me on the Baby AL or maybe try to make me think
about something different I will be very glad to hear.
Sincerely yours,
Ofer Ben- Noon
Sincerely yours,
Ofer Ben- Noon
[
I'm not especially recommending any particular F1A,...although
I clearly have to take a chauvanistic point of view and say that
as long as it has a Black or Red Magic  timer it has to be great !!
That aside ..
You need to make the decision but these are some ideas ...
Talk to the supplier of the model to see which is the best for your flying 
conditions. Do you want a thermal model ? a still air flyoff, windy
or all around general purpose model ?  What other models do you have in your
box and how will this compliment them ?
Talk to others who have that model.
Look at the contest results.
I believe it is important to choose a model that has been flown sucessfully
by many others besides the original builder.  This shows a model that 
is not temperamental.
]
fuze engine
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hey just in case anyone got a bunch of money for christmas and didn't 
know what to buy me. there is a brand new monolith (fuzeyev) engine on 
ebay it bids jan 7th.
search f1c and you should find it. oh by the way the bids start at $1000(ouch)
sort of makes VE and hummers seem cheap.
dave.
[and it does not even include the folding wings !]
…………………………
Roger Morrell